Wow. I logged on here around 3pm EST and, just like with every other breaking news story since I discovered this place, there were at least a dozen or so threads talking about the Notre Dame fire. And in every single one that I got a chance to peruse, there were some ultra-right-wing Yea Forumsfucktards on here spouting their usual bullshit conspiracy theories about how the fire HAD to be a terrorist attack, that Muslims were ABSOLUTELY involved & that there was NO way it was something as innocuous as a carelessly tossed aside cigarette butt.
As anyone who's been there knows, EVERYONE in Europe smokes & it's allowed EVERYWHERE. That said, there are vastly more people in the US who haven't been to more than 5 states, much less to an entirely different country, than those who have, and smoking is all but banned here. So the vast majority of 'Murrikunz have no idea just how accepted & tolerated smoking is in Europe.
Now, as it pertains to the Notre Dame fire, twelve hours after I logged off:
>there has been NO statement from ANY Islamic terror organizations claiming responsibility for the fire >the "District Attorney" (whatever the proper job title is) for Paris has officially ruled out foul play or terrorism & has gone on-record that the fire was an accident >there are fucking ZERO threads about the fire on Yea Forums
So, what? Right after it happens, when all we have is speculation because the facts haven't come out yet, everyone's so fucking certain they know it's Muslim terrorism & fer fuck's sake why can't we get Crusades 2.0 going again, yet the second it's confirmed that the fire was an accident, all of a sudden all these RWNJs stfu all at the same time?
while most of your post is true, smoking is far from common anymore.
Brayden Peterson
>You can smoke anywhere in Europe
I'm jelly as heck I always go out of my way to not blow clouds of smoke into peoples' faces, it would be nice if people still didn't give a shit and I could do it indoors.
Jack Mitchell
Wow. Things must have changed then since I was last there. I swear to god, the day I arrived, I hadn't gotten 25 feet past the doorway that leads from Customs to the main lobby/concourse area at Frankfurt International than a German lady asked me if I had a lighter.
Smoking is not allowed everywhere. You cannot smoke in most clubs, or in restaurants or malls. Having said that, there is indeed a lot of smokers, way too many. The streets are filled with cigarettes from morons who cannot put them out anywhere better.
With that said, I do not jump to the idea that it was terrorists. It can be indeed something as simple as someone smoking (even though it would surprise me if that happened in the cathedral)
Landon Nguyen
So you made this thread for the 5-10 people that were yelling terrorism? Do you care that they read this that much?
Christopher Butler
What makes you think the threads have stopped? How much more proof do we need until the liberal left shuts up and finally stops covering up for the muslims? Sure they dindu nuffin.
While I sympathize with the gist of your message, there were easily a dozen threads when I last logged on & I perused 7 of them. I find it just a tad unbelievable that the same 5 people were $p@mming every one of those threads w/ "Kill all the durka durkas" bullshit.
And I don't care if any of them read this because
>they're fucking stupid >everything I said here will go completely over their heads >they've been proven wrong, once again, and these cretins NEVER admit to being wrong
>You cannot smoke in most clubs, or in restaurants or malls. Jesus. I'm in my 40's & I think in all that time I've smoked maybe half a pack of cigarettes. I would have loved my time over there even more than I did if what you say here were true where I was. I never once went to a restaurant, club or bar that didn't have a cloud of smoke hanging in it. I got used to it after a while, but being a non-smoker, it doesn't mean I didn't still notice the shit was there.
Anthony Lopez
>your image is bullshit >your message is bullshit >this fire has been ruled accidental by the top prosecutor in Paris
>Now >Shut >The >Fuck >Up >Asshole
Nathaniel Ortiz
>they've been proven wrong
>blindly accepts what the media tells him what happened
You sir are a fool.
Julian Nelson
So kinda like the Dems screaming muh Russian collusion even after the Mueller report.
Parker Hernandez
While I do agree that it's too early to say it was terrorism, the idea it has been "ruled out" is total horse shit. How can it be determined it wasn't arson when the fire isn't even out yet, let alone an investigation has been conducted and completed? But lets call this what it really is, faggots like you that want oh so badly to defend mudslims at all costs, and then when it turns out they are responsible you still turn it around and blame everyone else for their barbarism.
Lucas Walker
Did there happen to be two Germanys when you visited?
Daniel Foster
zOMG you fucking racist! There was collusion and everyone knows it
Colton Garcia
Sure. Because the top prosecutor in Paris, the guy that decides, after looking at FACTS where probable cause lays & a preponderance of evidence justifies legal charges against someone, said it was a fucking ACCIDENT... And I'm "blindly accepting what the media tells me."
But since "blindly accepting what the media says" is such a TERRIBLE, awful thing according to you, explain why it's ok for you to parrot back Alex Jones, Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson talking points to the rest of us? Surely you think for yourself & don't subscribe to clearly biased "media" sources for your information...
>Sure. Because the top prosecutor in Paris, the guy that decides, after looking at FACTS where probable cause lays & a preponderance of evidence justifies legal charges against someone Sauce? >In b4 you don't have one
Grayson Stewart
We haven't heard/seen the full Mueller report. All we know so far is what Trump's lap dog AG has told us. If there TRULY wasn't any collusion, as you assert, then why were so many of the lawyers/cops who worked on that report so irritated that Barr's public pronouncement read like a fluff piece where Trump's culpability was concerned?
Aaron Barnes
Nothing like walking out of the lecture hall into a thick wall of cigarete smoke because 3/4 of the people who left before me lighted up their cigs
Leo Butler
Well they don't want to go against their narrative that diversity is their greatest strength.
Adam Hill
not everyone in europe smokes and its not allowed inside official places restaurants bars or whatever thing exist with a roof on top.
but yeah, its very unlikely to be a terrorist attack since its a fucking fire and french faggots smoke a shit ton more than the average european. also, the notre was under construction or so
Caleb James
I see the left is already gearing up their next line of bullshit for when it comes out and STILL doesn't gives them what they wanted >b-but we need the FULL report hur dur impeach drumpf!!
Landon Carter
This
Yes quite a few /pol/fags have sperged about about Islam and automatically assumed it was the reason behind it, that doesn't mean a Muslim ape didn't start the fire.
Jordan Parker
Im kind of torn between the fact that sometimes accidents happen and the fact that the whole thing smells fishy af we will see
European media have been known to smudge the facts as of late. For instance in Sweden particularly they will lighting Photoshop criminals to make them look white. I don't know what caused the fire but I won't rule out Muslim extremists just because a French official claimed so.
Asher Morgan
>Sauce? >In b4 you don't have one
You're in for a disappointment then: independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/notre-dame-fire-terrorism-conspiracies-alt-right-muslim-christian-a8871706.html
Look, they even called you troglodytes out in the first paragraph! >The inferno that has engulfed the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris has been seized upon by far right provocateurs to spread anti-Muslim hate and conspiracies, even as officials said they have ruled out arson as the cause.
More sauce: heavy.com/news/2019/04/notre-dame- terrorism-terror-fire-not/
msn.com/en-us/news/world/structure-of-the-notre-dame-cathedral-has-been-saved-from-fire/ar-BBVXM4v?li=BBnb7Kz >The Paris prosecutors’ office ruled out arson and possible terror-related motives, and said it was treating the fire as an accident, The Associated Press reported.
>inb4 "msn.com is not news"
Fuck you. Facts are facts, no matter where they fucking come from.
Fox might actually stand a chance at winning some journalism awards if they placed a stronger emphasis on, you know, actually INCLUDING facts in the horseshit they produce that masquerades as news.
Maybe if this person hasn't jumped at the chance to make it political and defend the sandnigger savages, I would take it more seriously
ANYWAY, I'll wait for the real experts that are conducting an actual investigation and know what the fuck they're talking about to report what they find
John Powell
> Trying to rip on Fox after 2 years of them being the only ones right about Russiagate Seriously, could you be any more of a mouthbreather?
There's also no chance that any investigation is over yet, hell the place still has hotspots.
That said, the odds of terrorism are pretty low at this point. Any time there's construction going on, the odds of sparking off a fire go way up Doubly so if your job is protected no matter how hard you fuck up. Occam's razor, folks.
It's very possible a Muslim burned down Notre Dame and officials, out of fear of being labeled "racist Islamophobes", are calling this an accident and not investigating the possibility of arson
Alexander Robinson
Why don't you delusional conspiracy-addicted stormfags fuck off Yea Forums?
Easton Russell
People who travel can't listen to any kind of conspiracy theories. Their eyes glaze over and everyone in the room thinks the conspiritard is either a child or a fool.
Americlaps are all jokey and loud in groups, but in mixed company with people from other countries, they are quiet because they know they are fucked.
Jackson Ross
Your logic is weak. There are likely just as many people blaming it on aliens as anything else.
Associating it with someone who has only been to 5 states much less a different country is stupid. Most of the countries in the world are smaller than most of our states. Take a 10 hour car ride and you can hit 5 countries without breaking a sweat. Take a 10 hour car ride starting in Nebraska and know where you end up? Still fucking nebraska. Look at a map, how many countries can an American drive to? 2.
It takes a lot of time and money to actually travel to foreign countries if you live in the us. If youre overseas you can do it on a bicycle.
James Hall
>I logged on here
Charles Watson
ANY REPORT LISTING A CAUSE IS A LIE. Unless there is video evidence and a confession showing it was an accident, it is a lie.
An origin and cause Investigation on a small fire takes hours. A house that was fully involved days to weeks. Something the size of a hotel will take months.
And many of them an origin can't be found. Once a structure is fully involved you lose a majority of the evidence that shows you where to look. With that kind of structure you have basically a giant chimney, it's going to burn hot. And you have hundreds of tons of fuel above you that will bury everything that isn't consumed.
Without an origin,no cause. And an O&C doesn't get started until well after the fire is out.
There is going to be a lot of people involved in just finding where the fire started, then what started it and after all of that, who or what. It's not going to be fast.
Saying it's being "teared as an accident" is non news saying "I dont know" which is the only thing they should be saying unless they had someone come screamING out of the building either "ALLUHA ACKBAR" or "HOLY SHIT GUESS WHAT I JUST DID!"
In the end without someone taking blame odds are the cause will be listed as either undetermined or of electrical origin.
Christian Parker
Nice shillwork. Did you write the smoking guy larps too?
The only conspiracy here is that it was lit up for the insurance money to pay for the existing renovations.
Justin Parker
Things have not changed. People smoke all the time, everywhere, as you said. Don't ever listen to the people on Yea Forums
Caleb Gutierrez
please stop claiming it's racism towards muzzies. muzzies aren't a race of people, muzzies are a group of people of any race that believe in the islam religion.
Austin Anderson
>logged on >logged >on >to Yea Forums
Kys gtfo
Lincoln Cox
Yes guys, the white nationalists who make it a mantra that they want to wipe out all non-white people on the planet aren't actually racist, they just have a problem with the brown people's religion.
Fuck off stormfag and eat a bullet like your daddy Hitler did.
Nathan Phillips
>Muslims
Most people claimed it was the kikes.
Daniel Barnes
hitler was part jew
Elijah Howard
no, your understanding of the world is simple and flawed
Juan Adams
how do i log in
Isaiah Roberts
>lasted since 1200, destroyed by cigarette >no covert manipulation group has announced they did it >fuck everyone is a conspiracy nut job
JIDF...ACTIVATE!!
Jaxson Brown
Are you retarded? They haven’t even investigated it yet. And churches all over France are getting fucked with
Sebastian Anderson
>>your image is bullshit >>your message is bullshit >SHUT UP >STOP POSTING NEWS TO ARSONS IN CATHOLIC CHURCHES LAST MONTH
that means some people just want to watch the world burn.
Evan Cruz
It would mean nothing. There is no "white people electronic terrorism awareness force"
100 million dollar subversion task force being thwarted by neets. Embarassing.
Did no one think paying a bunch of kids to shitpost could result in having a steady flow of highly coincidental propaganda reverse engineered? Couldn't even manage not to hire low effort idiots for something so important?
Maybe keeping muslims a little more in the dark so they are not overtly cheering all this on might have been a good idea. Perhaps not posting hate threads with such a hard on then slamming on the brakes once a disaster not even over was ruled "accidental" would have been less noticeable.
I hope the FBI is bought and paid for. No matter how "internet culture savvy" this is it sticks out like a sore thumb in a place known for toilet humor.
Jeremiah Adams
>Priceless relics and artwork removed prior to the fire >catlicks knew it was coming >fire started in 2 separate places, not accidental >church knew that peoples first knee-jerk reaction would be that it was Muslims >idiot Muslims cheering and laughing in the streets >church knew the cucked French government would quickly declare it an accident out of fear of being called islamophobic >gov't is letting the fire burn out instead of putting it out, took 4 hours for fire trucks to even show up on scene, letting evidence get destroyed, gov't werent going to really investigate anyway >church knew nobody paying attention would buy the accident story and would be upset at the loss >the catlicks are building an army, recruiting on /pol/ right now, militatus something or other, I don't speak diddler-tongue
Shit's going down, or maybe I'm just a paranoid
Juan Harris
>extremely passionate OP shuts it down after the response is overwhelmingly anti shill
Any regular poster would enjoy the attention they are getting and be glad to be midtaken for somebody of consequence
Charles Green
Straight out of the handbook
James Ramirez
This. Turn the region to glass. Israel included.
Jeremiah King
Multiple threads with dozens-100+ replies? Yeah... go fuck yourself, it’s obvious you’d prefer the muzzie hate to continue.
Kevin King
Amazing how livid all the notre dame threads were. Then everyone starts mentioning all the church desecrations, yellow vests, fleeing jews, overwhelming muslim word for word repeated hate speech and bam. Practical standstill.
Grayson Jenkins
>when failure is imminent, cease all implications and attack low hanging fruit, let them sabotage themselves
Samuel Johnson
You might think this comment is insightful, looks like a waste of space to me
Carson Smith
No proof Hate opinion No proof Causation=/=correlation True Just like rapeugees Hearsay causation=/=correlation >they are doing exactly what I am doing
This reeks of pseudoclever foreskin breath
Jacob Nguyen
Pretty hard to waste space in the internet's asshole
Jaxon Wright
But goddamn you’re trying
Elijah Butler
I just want to sleep faggot.
Eli Hernandez
>BBC, trap, dick, tribute, reminder, why no kys, why no proof, etc could never be pulled off by a small number of dedicated people, they just coincidentally show up every day because its that important for virgins working minimum wage to ruin the only thing they have to come home to
Benjamin Campbell
>calling it "not terrorism" with more gusto than "accident"
Getting real sloppy...
Camden Walker
people who legitimately disagree have difficulty accepting conspired events
James Clark
Wait, which part was true?
Oliver Cooper
He even made sure to caitalize all opinionated implications. Is shilling getting so patternistic they no longer realize what they are doing?
Jace Martinez
Count. Use your fingers if you have to.
Chase Cook
>Irrelevant comment about you and your microD getting triggered
And I care why?
Lucas Williams
>no
So then it is literally being posted for everyone who is still undecided. Because everyone on Yea Forums is so politically active aside from posting memeball.
Brody Cooper
It was definitely foul play. A shifty looking group of people were there at the scene with gas. Weather or not it was muslims remains to be seen. Also nice strawman calling everyone that thinks it was muslims a Trump supporter.
Brandon Garcia
Muslims were at the scene attacking rescue workers. This was the first battle of the Muslim-European war and the (((media))) is trying to coverup.
Ignore these shills brother
Chase Gutierrez
>seized upon by anti-muslim hate
>people suggesting there are many recent coincidences and observing that muslims appear overwhelmingly happy about the event can be described out of context by the same banner
Nathan Evans
You tell me, responding user
Zachary Smith
I did but a lot of your responses arent lining up with what I said, unless I'm just a retard, I mean that is a possibility
No proof to the relics, gargoyles, etc being removed? They were, y'know for the renovations
Hate opinion to catlicks knew it was coming, its my opinion, Yeah, its the point I'm trying to make, don't know how it's hate though, because I spelled it wrong? Like rapeugee?
Fire starting in 2 locations was what was reported last night
Causation =/= correlation to knowing people would blame the Muslims? What? Even the Muslims think it was the Muslims, which was my next point, which, if I'm counting right (got my fingers out and everything):
You said was true
Just like rapeugees.. The French government?
Hearsay that the call reporting the fire was at 2pm, firetrucks first showed up at 6pm, or that they're letting it burn (it's still burning, isn't it?)
Causation/correlation to folks aren't going to buy the accident story, again what?
They're doing what I'm doing. I'm not building an army
Your response made no sense at all, but I'm the Jew, ok rabbi
Brody Moore
>fuck they are on to us, pretend we have the exact opposite views but act retarded, this will make our enemies seem retarded >foolproof
Jaxson Mitchell
Epic own, now you can go back to jerking your tiny cock.
Ayden Perry
>Trying to illegitimize my call to arms >Calls me a double agent
Not only are you projecting your own shitty plans on me, you’re a fucking traitor to the white European race. I’d cut you down like any other invader
>crap he did not bite my low effort post >even though I acted like a different poster I will go on to add slightly more detail to everything I originally posted >your response made so much no sense, that I had to make sure to explain to a dead thread how much sense it did not make >being so intent on ridiculing opposition as to ruin all implications the original post made
Maybe you need more sleep. It is pinnacle to a healthy mind
Blake Stewart
It is only tiny when I don't jerk it.
Zachary White
When did I act like a different poster? I responded to the shit that responded to my shit, what am I supposed to do, become a namefag for you?
Your reply looked like you shook a bag full of written down logical fallacies and just wrote down what you pulled out
Brayden Nguyen
>over dramatic >unconfident >weather, gas, war, ((())) >completely unverified events that could not be hidden from observers >fallacy names >orange man
jew would be the worst ally whites could possibly have
Aaron Morris
What do you mean?
Zachary Baker
Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe I was miscounting or your bullet points just weren't lining up with mine for whatever reason. But I see now you just had to post something to discount what I said so people would move on. Got it ;)
Brody Turner
based and red pilled
Nathaniel Hall
nice try with the strawman, but it's obvious they used paraffin
Alexander Taylor
>it WAS a conspiracy, the catlicks are jews
No jews are jews
>simaltaneously subvert and destroy
Any groups that historically have a knack for doing this?
The church that traded money for forgiveness, defaced countless works of pricless art out of vanity, is its own gold city, grooms a eunuch choir of young boys since forever, screws them, has the worlds most powerful landbased telescope yet discounts much science and is still devotely followed on a daily basis by millions?
It doesn't have the best image just recently you say? What over the top thing has caused this hypothetical image falter?
Evan Flores
Has it been?
Me or you couldnt gather together a mass of people to make it happen, nobody wants to go first. If I put together a group, Id be raided and shot dead before I got 3 members. To build an army you have to have an already wealthy, powerful, well connected and far reaching institution. The Pope can get it done.
Adam Diaz
Not if you are jooesh. Damn catlicks
Samuel Sanchez
Everything I said is consistent. I’m trying to get rid of the halal problem and you’re consistently trying to undercut me. So youre my enemy, and probably a Jew
Mason Cruz
The spread of information. They're losing numbers, people deconvert every day. 1000 years ago in some shithole village you wouldn't hear about some scandal half a world away, and you sure as hell wouldnt question the ideas put in your head by your fellow villagers. Now anyone with a $25 flip phone can google shit up.
I dont know what the numbers are today, havent cared in a while, but Christianity had been on the decrease, whole nations were turning largely irreligious
Daniel White
God burned down that church as punishment for the pedo cathlicks
>If anyone makes too much sense, stop responding and start a new argument. People will always notice an argument quicker than the loss of a conversation
It is called backing up your baseless assertion. I will wait while you research copies of the annual "devoted catholic census" for oh say, the past 50 years.
I mean you are so incredibly sure of yourself I cannot imagine you holding anything less than a full house to say so.
We all know no one goes on the internet to tell lies
Wyatt Murphy
Or I could just concede that point as not worth pursuing and get back to the topic we had been on before you drove us off on this tangent
Nathan Thompson
>france has 10 churches vandalized in a month >burned one before too >trust us it's totally unrelated you're an idiot
Seriously just google france churches
Jeremiah Fisher
>I ousted myself as not caring about christianity so much that I was dedicated enough to make a derrogatory name for it that no one has even heard used by athiests or snowflakes in general
joo mad? joo mad.
Hunter Brown
I don't care about Christianity, you caught me, I'm one of those fat euphoric fedorkas
What else you got?
Caleb Turner
This is the stuff getting spammed all morning in pol's notre dame sticky before it got unstuck. The catlicks are building an army
You mean devotion of catholics to the pope? The thing you were trying to twice disprove, but having been swatted as a bluffing fool now wish to discuss?
That is actually called: you're wrong. That would be the end of our discussion. Light up another one.
If its that important to you There's been trends of religious non afiliation, here's a chart for US and Canada, if I absolutely have to Ill google European countries for you too
Dude, smoking indoors is fucking disgusting, straight up. Unless you're rich af and have a god damn civilized-ass smoking room with proper ventilation and some fancy reading material you should not be smoking indoors. Fuck thats gross.
Evan Walker
>growth in population of the world
As but one, single obstacle to your "direct evidence" you got there.
Christian Thomas
I like how every single one of these threads has several people making the cigarette claim, despite there being no evidence out to support it. I'm not saying it's definitely an intentional attack and it would be equally wrong to assume it is. But for some reason, this cigarette claim is being repeated over and over in each thread. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but that's pretty suspicious to me.
Isaiah Perry
*assume it is not
Don't mention it
William Morris
I'm all for it
Muslims have no place in the civilized world, they need to go back to their containment sandbox. The governments aren't doing anything but letting more in and denying the trouble they're causing. The church is jumping on to fill that void and as distrust in the government keeps growing, they'll be there to fill the power vacuum and start up the next dark ages
There's no good guys in the fight for who gets to be our new masters.
I started out just listing out the pieces of the puzzle I had picked up that made me think the catlicks burned their own church as a catalyst to fill their army. I wasnt planning on that turning into this hourish long discussion that it has, having to google up graphs and shit for SAT boy over here, I had shit to do today
Dominic Foster
>how accepted & tolerated smoking is suck it in, it's good for you
Ethan Myers
While part of your post is correct, the "common" part, I have to disagree with the part "far from, anymore" and replace it with a blank space instead. That would make your post more accurate
Ryan Morris
It was a terrorist attack FACT. France is a liberal clusterfuck of a country and I would not be surprised if arson was being covered up, possibly to avoid every single raghead in France getting lynched. Also lol, you must have been to Europe some 20 years ago at the latest, or 10 if you visited Eastern Europe. Smoking is as taboo here now as it is in Murica and practically no country allows smoking inside public buildings apart from bars, but even these keep getting bans one by one.
Logan Murphy
imagine being this scared of diversity in your community. like seriously can't even imagine how low on the IQ chart you have to be to be scared of race mixing etc..
Robert Richardson
>I am all for the thing I am arguing against in my completely normal, stable lifestyle, which I have >It is not possible for people to put faith in something different once it is lost in their original belief, it has to be a planned tactic
Imagine subverting and orchestrating so much that you are sure that is what everyone else does all the time too.
You get paid stop pretending to be so mildly annoyed that you can't stop responding after ragequitting like 8 times
Dylan Gutierrez
The study that says those two things correlate and a quote from where ever you got that implication even?
Juan Smith
So what if fucking muslims didn't do it the reason the motherfucking assholes are being blamed is because they were online and in real life standing around smiling and laughing and gloating about it because they are fucking stone aged morons with zero common human decency. They hate fags but fuck little boys, they treat women like garbage, they hate music and alcohol and everything about life except their stupid fucking religion they ripped off from Christianity 700 years after the death of Christ because they could, there were no copyrights or even books as we know them. So fuck those assholes they want to gloat? Maybe we should nuke the fucking Hajj.
Dominic Anderson
Your belief system does not have to reflect your IQ..Hitler was smarter than you, was racist...probably all of the Nazi officer and SS party were each smarter than you, and all racist.
Jose Martinez
Wow. The smoking thing really is being force fed. Remember this in case their plans are too far solidified and they cannot change the eventual narrative.
No I am not calling you a troll. I am quite aware it is very taboo and am starting to wonder why it is being pushed so hard by people who have obviously never been.
Ryan Ortiz
What study? You can post a thousand alt-right 'studies' that say the same thing, doesn't make any of them true. Stop wasting everyone's time with your fear mongering.
Henry Gonzalez
Nobody would EVER be allowed to smoke in an 850 year old wooden and stone structure, duh.
Luke Thomas
How have I ragequit at all if I'm still here?
When did I say I had some kind of normal sane lifestyle? I'm nuts and I know it
Shit, I wish I was getting paid to post here all day, sign me up
Imagine several groups of people obtaining and holding onto power for hundreds of years and never having any kind of underlying plan
Nothing happens that isn't planned for, or at the very least accounted for as a possibility and planned around. The same people always benefit and end up turning it in their favor to further their goals
Liam Young
And I'm sure you believe Trump's IQ is 165 too. lmao
Dylan Nelson
If the french get their ass in gear before the US does....wow, how will we ever recover as anything but "loud, obnoxious, do nothing teenage country"
Sebastian Walker
>All the muslims laughing like it's 9/11 all over again Hmm, I wonder why people thought muslims were involved...
Believe me just 30-50 years ago depending on the place you could easily light up in church. Tho this was probably true for some parts of America too but back then smoking rates were ridiculously high. In some places if you were male and did not smoke, well better pretend that you did.
Isaiah Jenkins
Fuck you, we tried to be nice and just like black people they want to play the victim and act innocent, when the motherfucking muslims and their governments and government terrorist organizations are just as complicit in global geopolitics as America is.
Have you considered that they might have suppressed news about Muslim involvement in order to protect Muslim communities in the area from retaliation?
Blake Johnson
People do it all the time, very common on the internet.
Pretty well known that places like churches are bad sanctuaries during a disaster because everyone will suddenly have a burst need for something to believe in. Not planned, just is.
Gabriel Cooper
Trump is a pale shadow of Hitler when it comes to intelligence that is true. Still, he has managed to get command of the world's most powerful armed forces and has his heart in the right place when it concerns (sand) niggers.
Ian Stewart
I seriously doubt that smoking is and always has been considered a vice, like prostitution and gambling and it wasn't done in fucking churches. I don't remember eve seeing an ashtray in a church as a kid in the eighties, they weren't there. Skirts were considered a no no. Now sluts show up in yoga pants.
Hunter Wright
You are not a smart man
Levi Jackson
>believe me you are totally right but things I heard and stuff
Luke Taylor
Wow it's almost as if your preconceptions influence speculation.
Good thing this is literally the only group that does this, right?
Jose Smith
Trump is a moron and fool riding on borrowed money.
Smarter than you.
Ryan Murphy
For fuck's sake guys. Have you ever thought that we should not be fighting over whether it was a loony who dropped a cigarette or a loony with a long beard and 7 kids who played with matches. What we should be focused on is how we can use this to our advantage and to their destruction. There is a chance to turn the public's opinion on muslims to such negatives they will be voluntarily fleeing in droves to the worst parts of Syria.
Juan Gonzalez
Interesting tactic. Let's see where this goes.
Cooper Price
You must really hate life if you have so much negative energy built up in life you feel like you need to publicly humiliate and destroy a man's life who's living his best life trying to provide for his children. How dare you defame not only him but his late wife as well. You obviously need to go reevlauate your polygamous lifestyle because clearly you aren't getting fucked properly if you're getting your rocks off by trolling a stranger on Facebook. So he doesn't live in your liberal rainbow bubble boo fucking hoo get over it already. So he has conservative views and doesn't believe little boys should prance around in drag big fucking deal. I assure you there are more people who don't agree with your beliefs than people who do. He doesn't trash you for your 57 gender nonsense and drag you in the dirt because honestly he doesn't care so why should you? Is he breaking laws no is he committing hate crimes no so leave him the fuck alone and before you try and get all political realize there is a difference in a separatist and a supremacist. But I'd seriously watch how much more defamation you have towards him before you have a lawsuit on your hands. Oh he triggered your little liberal feelings go sit in your safe space and play with play doh until you're safe again. And stop trying to ruin a man's life especially when he's a single father because you're not only hurting him. But you're hurting to innocent little girls in the process. And you say us alt right are heartless... Have you literally seen the bullshit you have unleashed out of malice and vindictiveness come on as an American I feel more threatened by your kind then his. Grow the fuck up. Oh and you can try to drag him down but at the end of the day people who truly know him aren't going to let the hateful garage you're shitting out of your mouth affect their friendships. Get a life already.
Joseph Ross
Yeah but everyone hates the Catholics, including the Catholics. It's self loathing that got them so rich.
Josiah Ramirez
Yes. Just like Europe.
Worked out great there too.
Easton Price
>gaining things through manipulation and lies
Not everyone is a jew
Joseph Sullivan
I'm not buying it. They got the valuables out of the church weeks beforehand, like the guy taking out insurance on the wtc a week before 9/11
You really expect me to buy that they were just super lucky that they got everything out in time for the almost 900 year old building to have its unexpected accident
Michael Morris
Even if this was a terrorist attack, the culturally enriched France would keep it secret because they value tolerance and acceptance in their liberal paradise more than the truth getting out causing people to be redpilled to the reality that Muslim refugees are a danger.
Benjamin Roberts
Well first I do not know that this is true, but if it is >removing valuable things during a renovation aka construction
Adur
Christopher Edwards
Imagine wanting society to improve
Imagine not wanting your children to experience race riots
Imagine having a homeland
Imagine who you vote for in government NOT being a clearly divided racial issue where black people are called race traitors for voting for the wrong guy
Just a very timely renovation project, nothing to see here
Why are the super rich always blessed with this sort of good luck?
Aiden Richardson
>(((real))) experts I see you goldberg
Asher Green
Lol this is literally war. Fuck manipulation and lies, what matters in the end is that Europe stays white. Why not use the jew tactics against them?
Michael Anderson
>posting ancient text from aristotle
You have to go back that far just to find outdated evidence that race mixing doesn't work in a democracy. That's just pathetic and retarded.
Adrian Peterson
Maybe your heart is in the right place but two people who don't even agree with eachother called this guy out as a low level troll and you want to engage him?
You know he comes from a family with one nationally recognized genius? Was given an award from Ronald Reagan fro his ground breaking work? It was his paternal uncle, his fathers brother.
Remember when you thought you could purge trolls by trolling them?
Eli Campbell
So wait, he's also a fire investigator and was able to thoroughly investing since the fire was extinguished not long ago. Or, would it make sense for him to come out and say it was an accident to avoid an increase of violence against Muslims
Isaiah Davis
maybe you wouldn't have divisions if you didn't create them between yourself and your neighbours
Jaxon Martin
Smoking regulations differ by country and it's not like you can smoke literally anywhere, but generally all of the outdoors is fair game.
Elijah Russell
Way to ignore any and just ad hominem. And against aristotle of all people. Brainlets never learn lol
Logan Wood
And similar to GW Bush he didn't inherit that intellect that runs in their family even though they both try desperately to boast like they did.
Kayden Gray
Maybe we'd have less if you didn't create it. Pointing fingers is fun!
Juan Smith
Division is inevitable in this situation, that's how its so easily manipulated, which I think was the point in the post.
It'd be great if we could all hold hands and sing cumbaya and shit but someone's always going to be the asshole
Asher Rodriguez
>you had to go back to a time before statistics like comminality of AIDS through race and sexual affiliation had to literally disappear? >you have to research the time appropriate building blocks of democracy to learn about democracy?
Ha your post is three minutes old and outdated.
Blake Cook
Just because you are anti trump (tranny shill) doesn't mean he is stupid or that you have any evidence of what you're saying so I'm not sure what your point is.
They are easier to notice. Joe blow never makes the news
Colton Hall
Nothing against Aristotle personally but as a society compared to ancient Greece we have far exceeded that type of thinking. You sound like a freshman philosophy major who just did a book report on him and that's giving you a lot of credit.
Kevin Lewis
Modern western society is evidence that multiracial democracy doesn't work. People are just too scared to admit it.
Wow dude excellent post, I like the part where it wasn't just another ad hominem with no substance!
Samuel Baker
Took you fucks forever to warm up, but I am proud. Keep shitting it up and wondering if the insight is real, or counter-designed.
One day I might even feel sorry for you too. I would slap myself before ever acting on it, but sure I could feel it.
Jaxon Wilson
You're asking me evidence for Trump having a low IQ? How about asking Trump for evidence that he didn't cheat on his college exams. He's been cheating and conning people his whole life, and he certainly has you borderline retards fooled.
Grayson Parker
I was talking to a coworker today and our general consensus was that there was some scaffolding and work being done. Someone left something running and it caught the building on fire.
>it would be great if we could have no tradition and heritage
Oh you
Eli Perry
Because you faggots put all your chips on one bet and came out losers
Lincoln Johnson
I'm still waiting. We will get to hear about how the fire started regardless. I don't think the EU can fuck with the church that hard. Church been around for over 1000 years. The 3 women arrested prior who had connections to IS, and planned to attack Notre Dame is stoking the conspiratorial fire. Either way, they are taking their time to figure it out. Maybe Catholics making it harder?
Aaron Nelson
You concluded that the church well documented as being renovated, was being renovated, then jumped to a conclusion?
Man, why aren't the jails full of butlers (you know, cause they always did it where ever they happen to be)
Connor Peterson
>taking their time
You can't order arson evidence from amazon genius
Sebastian Reyes
It can be easily made though. Try it with your house tonight.
David Richardson
My house is warm enough. Thanks.
Ethan Ortiz
Is it so hard to even consider the possibility it was not an accident Muslims or not?
I just realized important people wear makeup not to look better but avoid displaying emotion as much as possible. It really is a game to them.
Ryder Mitchell
Just because you dont think the world needs sharia law does not mean you are some alt right neo Nazi. I thought you guys were the ones that thought it was bad to to place group identity over individual identity. Oh wait, thats right. Only when it benefits you, right?
I wonder if there are lazy jews. Like they go "fuck it this is too hard" and pick something easier to do in order to still keep like they are obeying their overlords while letting the big problems fall through the cracks.
Y'know like any other form of employment
Jaxson Bennett
Am I the first person on the internet to realize and admit they did not know something?
What is the most likely explanation? Muslim terrorists, or careless construction workers? Never having been a terrorist, I can't speak to that. But Ive worked construction, and that shit seems pretty goddam plausible.
The other question that still lingers, is, were these legit b-tards being their usual right wing selves, or wasit maybe sock puppets from russia? That seems far more likely to me, but that could be my tin foil hat talking.
A clever Yea Forums space monkey could figure out a conversational trap for Ivan, as if it mattered.
Jace Reyes
What does that have to do with what I said?
Cameron Jones
And?
Jose Green
I don't understand the sentiment of this post. Are they not supposed to STFU since it's not a terrorist attack?
Who is america supposed to go to war with since it's already decided that its not a terrorist attack?