Where does the idea of mana come from and why is it always blue?

Where does the idea of mana come from and why is it always blue?

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... because a long time ago someone thought to themselves "magic would be blue" and then put it in some book/game/movie/cave painting and then everyone else was like "yeah that sound about right" and copied him without giving him any credit so.

The real question is why is stamina always green/yellow?

Mana is a supernatural power and easily became the energy for spells in video games and modern fantasy.

Its blue because its not really a color that is natural to a person. Red makes sense for health because your blood is red. A Bright Green makes sense for health, in the west, because green is generally seen as a good color and your health being green means you are in good health while red-shifting means you are closer to death.

I'm sure early on everyone picked up on blue quickly and it stuck without any issue.

RGB

what would they even taste like?
if i heal myself with the potion, do i feel my bones snaping back into place and my skin mending, or is it just natural and i dont feel jack?

Blood = red
Mana = blue
Sweat (energy) = yellow
It just makes sense faggot

What's the first documented use of mana in a videogame?

Conditioned

>why is it always blue?

Blue symbolizes Knowledge, Wisdom, and Clarity, which are all things that can be associated with the use of magic

It makes sense because you're used to seeing it like that

Primary colors. Red makes the most sense for health (blood), and blue is just a good contrast if you have two visible meters. Same reason stamina is usually green if it exists.

D&D health potions smell slightly like almonds.
So does cyanide.

I know this one because it actually comes from my culture, Mana is mean magical energy in my native tongue and was picked up by DnD creator as their sauce of magic, as far as it being blue, that was a limitation of early RGB display and it just fit.

I mean.. fuck you nigger

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Manna was the stuff God gave to the Israelites so they could wander aimlessly in the desert for 40 years

I've always imagined health potions are thick and rich, but also sweet, kind of like cough syrup but less astringent/gross. I think of mana potions as tasting like a tart fruit juice.

>and was picked up by DnD creator as their sauce of magic
No it wasn't. I'm pretty sure D&D didn't add mana based spellcasting until Unearthed Arcana in 3.5

It came from "The Magic Goes Away". The word was borrowed from polynesian culture but its nothing like the fantasy one which is more like interracial chi. Its depicted as blue simply because it contrasts with the red bar.

you're a Maori?

The idea of mana originates in the bible. The Isrealites were complaining that they didn't have any food so God gave them "manna" to eat. Why it came to be blue and be associated with magic power I'm not entirely sure.

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I guess the idea comes from the natural progression of "energy is a thing -> magic is cool -> magic would probably need some kind of energy source". The colour is probably from the existing connotations of blue.

>Mama

lmao *internal
thats what I get for phoneposting

Fucken ay bro

Should the health bar be red or green?

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hp is red because blood is red
mana is blue because it contrasts with red

It makes sense intuitively, blood is red, hp relates to the body, made of blood, so it's red.
Mana is most often the opposite of the body, made to represent the mind or will, separate from the body or adjacent, so the opposite colour makes sense to represent it.
The energy colour is harder to intuit, but I could draw a connection towards a yellow lightning bolt representing energy as a colour, but I'm far more confident in my first two than the last.

Didn't square enix sell them in Japan like in the early 2000's?

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> It was first introduced as a magical fuel used to cast spells in the 1969 short story, "Not Long Before the End", by Larry Niven. It has since become a common staple in both role-playing and video games

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mana means the same thing as chi
supernatural / spiritual / magical power

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wrong

It isn't. Daggerfall and probably the earlier Elder Scrolls used green for Health, red for Stamina, and blue for Magic. Hell one of the unmodded options for daggerfall unity switches the health and stamina bar colours just to appease the modern gamers.

Mana is the Polynesian word for spiritual power.

Magic potions weren't always blue

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There are only two correct options: red, or green, but it changes to yellow/red when low.

Fun fact you won't see elsewhere because cover-up to preserve PR

In our culture our ancestors would consume each other after war to steal their mana and become more powerful

Maori are metal asf

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>A Larry Niven novel is a rulebook for the dungeons and dragons roleplaying game
D&D casts magic by spell slots or spells per day. Mana systems were not part of the red box or AD&D. They didn't come about until the 3rd edition of the game, you cockmongler.

yes but polynesians focused more on the external form of that, more similar to feng shui than qigong which is more associated with the concept of spellcasting

I did say "source of magic" not used for spell casting as in lore.

I'm still a cockmongler because I was wrong though

It wasnt called as such but the magic meter and potions were blue in Zelda 2

This, in some sense it has been translated to "pride" or "status" aswell as magical energy

>Where does the idea of mana come from
The concept of a supernatural force permeating all things is widespread across many cultures. Mana is one name for it from one culture, but it has also been called prana or anima in others.

It's blue because health is red, blue and red are complimentary colors.

Where is our 1800s war Vidya fellow Maori

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i always image V8 is a health potion when i drink it

The 'source' of magic in D&D is variously sheer willpower, faith in a god or code, the blood of magical creatures in your heritage, and setting specific things like The Weave.
Psionics works more like a pool of magical energy you cast from and deplete then replenish.

D&D uses what is called "Vancian" magic, and steals its mechanics whole-cloth from the novels of Jack Vance.
A wizard reads a book to learn a spell, and then forgets the spell when he's cast it and has to read his books again to re-learn it.
In D&D this is represented by a system of spell slots that are allotted each game day.

This is opposed to a mana system, where a wizard "knows" all of their spells and is only limited by how much mana he has left in his pool.

Blue isn't the opposite of red. Lighting isn't yellow

>Blue isn't the opposite of red
To the average person it is; Most dont even know "cyan" is a color of its own. You can thank Newton for that.

I always thought it's a feeling similar to orgasm, a very intense sensation that lasts for a split second.
I thought about implementing rules about ways healing magic and buffs fuck with you body, but then I realized it'd pointless sophistry that'd add little to the game.
You'd feel phantom pain or re-live the injury because your nervous system hasn't adjusted to the fact that your body is whole again.
In the setting, low tier psi powers like pain relief and small physical buffs were accessible to anyone with at least average mental attributes, so I thought about making characters hooked on the feeling of power they'd get from the buffs. The players were going to do Willpower checks to avoid casting buffs just to flex their abilities in situations when they didn't really need them.

>why is it always blue
Because there is no reason to use a different color when blue is far more intuitive.

If you have a red and blue bar in the corner of your screen you will instantly know that one is health and the other is mana/energy.

If they instead were yellow and pink you would not know what those bars represented and which was which. You would have to relearn it for no good reason other than the devs wanted to use different colors.

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In the trash with the rest of the bad ideas. New Zealand history is the most fucking boring topic in the world

This is equivalent of calling salt sodium chloride, understand that these understandings are cultural and an average of such

All of Bionicle lore was based off Maori aswell as this gem

BTFO Faggot

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Maybe electricity

Instead of needing food or water, you just use mana, which is hydration and nutrients in a form of radiation.

Should stamina be yellow or green?

Why is the experience bar always yellow?

The question is who was the first to make Mana blue? Red is obvious because blood, but blue is oy the obvious Mana color because of historical precedent, someone had to decide to make it blue before anyone else and they presumably had a reason.

Its probably Dungeon Master (1987) There are earlier examples but to my knowledge this is the first game to use the word and the blue color simultaneously.

>Red is obvious because blood
Not really. Health bars weren't red for many years.
Heck, there weren't even health bars at first.

cuz my name ass

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"Based off" doesn't mean squat. They did so little research for your own shitty example that the main character has a woman's ta moko. When Mark of Kri came out, they even laughed about it on the national news.

because magic users are depressed losers

Health = Yellow
Mana = Green
Stamina = Red

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There's an interview where they explained their design choice. They removed the male ta moko because they thought it would alienate the character to much to sell to America.

Still pisses me off to this day.

Doesn't change the fact the Maori history is the coolest thing in the world

Dude. Nobody's going to look down on you for not knowing shit about DnD. Just admit you don't know what you're talking about and move on

>niggers acting like niggers for 200 years
Yeah bro, that's choice as

Literally did say I was wrong in that comment.

Are you braindead?

> Niggers
Maori are Asian decent retard

Tell them that

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When I mix canada dry and whiskey I call it health potion, so i like to think that's what they taste like

Walk down Queen Street on any given evening and you tell me how many Maori you see embracing their Asian ancestors

That's manna, not mana.

red is low-health because when you're hurt you bleed more.

Why the fuck would you look for culture in the city?

Go to a community haul in Northland and bless flax with wahine to make kete and then go help gather cray to feed the whanau.

That's the culture I know.

This.

Do you mean the communities rife with cousin fucking, or the ones with crippling meth addiction? Because I've seen enough of both.

Royals were believed to have blue blood, giving the color blue a divine quality.

Every race has a history of incest
Meth is an invention of the white man

You're slipping user

Health is red because blood is red. Blue is the opposite of red, just like the mundane (the blood) is the opposite of the spritual, then, mana is blue.

Suicide watch

Glad I came back to this thread

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>blaming the white man
Typical. How about you go name your children after V8 Fords? Or maybe Triple M, that'll make you look like even more of a fucking joke

You're just mad because we bullied you in school and stole all your white pussy

Every Maori knows the Barra six banger is the best ford engine anyway

>claims he isn't a nigger
>falls back on cuck fantasy
You're a real chief, bro

> Say three different argument points
> Focuses on one

Found the button

I bet you hear it all the time "I want a Maori hubby and half cast kids"

Absolutely seething

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It's not. Magic is green. Blue is both health and magic.

Even the Maoris I know want nothing to do with you people. The only thing you have going for you is your taste in cars, and even that's bordering on niggish

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BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

I don't know a single white woman that doesn't drop their panties to this

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mana potions would taste like extremely high wormwood content absinthe
this is non-negotiable

>continues to act like a nigger
I'd tell you to get back to work, but I doubt you have a job. Do you at least use your WINZ payments on rent before you hit up your dealer?

Are you this insecure about your own race?

I don't need to work, that's a white pigs dream.

I took back my land from you and now I tend it and live off it. Something you're unable to do unless you suck corporate dick.

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Become a statistic bo

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>get gifted land from the government so that you stop complaining
>claim you took it back
You're living on a reservation, like an injun. The only difference is you don't have the brain power to build a casino.

>kill yourself whitey
That's hilarious considering Maori made up a quarter of the national suicide rate in 2016 and the number is only rising

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Because green and read are both used for life/blood. Blue is more of a magic color (even since mtg and before)

Pee is yellow though