I want to get into old Wrpgs cause I don’t know shit about them.
I played a few recent ones (Shadowrun, New Vegas, Deus Ex, fallout 1 and 2) but nothing D&D-like Frankly, i know absolutely nothing about D&D to begin with.
I heard a lot of good things about Torment and Baldur’s gate though, and seeing them on sale on GOG piqued my curiosity. Can I play these games without prior knowledge of D&D rules or should I read up a bit about them before attempting?
Are there any other Wrpg I should try before these?
Both are very good games - I've never played DnD but i finished planescape just fine
It can't hurt to look up the mechanics but honestly as long as you're not a total dummy you'll be fine
Chase Morgan
planescape is a good story but not really the kind of game to get you into dnd. play baldur's gate 1
Gavin Foster
>Can I play these games without prior knowledge of D&D rules or should I read up a bit about them before attempting? PST you can, because there's not a huge amount of combat and most of the fights are kinda basic and don't require a lot of prep. You could also go the brainlet route and boost STR and then pretty much every fight is a cakewalk (although it's recommend you play a high WIS/CHA character in your first game because you get the most out of it that way)
You should probably do a tiny bit of reading before you jump into BG though, just so you understand what stuff like THAC0 means and how the stats work (for example, lower AC = better in BG because it uses 2nd Edition rules). But again, you can just play something like a fighter or a mage or mage/thief and then the game isn't really that difficult
Jason Nguyen
Play Planescape first it's the best one
Levi Kelly
arcanum
Lincoln Cruz
All you need to know is Beamdog is a guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.
1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).
2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.
3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.
4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.
Ultima VI (with Nuvie source port) The Complete Ultima VII (with Exult source port and music pack) Ultima Underworld Ultima Underworld II Gothic Gothic II Gold Edition Planescape: Torment Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines
Nathan Thomas
yeah BG and PST are a good place to start, like another user said just read the manuals first so you understand how the stats and combat work first. I know a lot of anons hate the enhanced editions but I have the original GOG versions and could Mega them for you if you want.
THAC0. To hit armor class zero. AC zero represents a fully armored knight with a shield. An AC higher than zero (a positive number) is subtracted from your thaco because they're easier to damage than a knight. A negative AC is added to your thaco because it's an even better armor than full plate and shield. Example: Thromduil the dwarf has a thaco of 17. He fights a goblin with a really shitty AC of 6. 17-6=11. Thromduil needs to roll an 11 to hit the goblin. Then Thromduil fights a dragon with a -4 AC. 17-(-4)=21. Thromduil needs to roll a 20 to hit the dragon since a 20 will always hit. TLDR: High bad, low good.
Eli Young
because he is based af
Carter Sanders
Ok christ no wonder I got my ass kicked so much when I was younger. My dad never explained to me how THAC0 worked so I would try to wear gear with higher AC because my dumb brain thought "number go up = good"
Henry Sanchez
Your dad sounds cool He just wanted to dunk on you
Caleb Hernandez
He's the biggest reason I got into gaming, let me play Quake when I was 1.5 yrs old, we'd play Starcraft, AoE 2, and got my sister and I our own copies of Neverwinter Nights so we'd all play together.
Jason Phillips
THAC0 translates into "To hit armor class 0". If your thac0 is 10, that means you need to roll 10 to hit armor class zero. The lower the thac0 the better. To hit armor class -10 with thac0 of 10, you'd need to roll 20.
Oliver Hall
My dad also got me into gaming, when I was a babby he would play Serious Sam, Quake and fucking Shadowman of all things and show me how cool they were. He also used to program small games for the C64, I played a couple of them, they were nice.
He never liked playing games too much though, he mostly enjoyed making them or showing me the game. Cool dude.
Leo Jackson
Are these the versions coming to Switch in September
Parker Gomez
the guy is autistic but he's right, it was scummy as fuck of beamdog to remove the original versions because they know their versions are just an overpriced collection of free mods and "enhanced" content that no one asked for
Camden Wright
It triggered me something fierce when I saw the Baldur's Gate 3 trailer and somehow a person is "turning" into an Illithid. THAT'S NOT HOW ILLITHIDS WORK YOU FUCKING APES.
What's a good starting class and race for a D&D brainlet in BG1? I only played it for a bit but it was so long ago that I might as well be playing it for the first time. Also are your party members pretty formidable on their own or do I really have to manage each one to make sure no one dies?
I'm not really familiar with DnD rules when I played Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition, and whatever you need to know is explained via in-game tutorials.
That means you won't have trouble getting into PST.. not unless you're not the type who likes reading. Advancing in PS:T means you have to love reading because ultimately, more experience is earned by exploring and talking to NPCs than actual combat, although that's not to say PS:T doesn't have combat, there's lots of combat specially the last third of the game.
Hunter Bennett
in 5e, yes, but i sure as fuck hope that it's not based on 5e.
Cameron Flores
of course it's based on 5e
Parker Morris
I personally think PSTEE is better than the original. Beamdog didn't insert their OC and merely added the much needed QoL improvements including zoom in/out. They even got Avellone to edit some dialog/scripts to correct the spelling and possibly shorten some overlong texts.
Christopher Martin
fuck this game then.
William Rodriguez
No I'm pretty sure that's how Ilithids always worked. I could be wrong but I know it predates 5e if nothing else cause that's how they worked when I was playing in the early 2000s.
Jeremiah Robinson
Games with DnD combat are shit. DnD combats not fun unless you can do cool shit with the DM otherwise you just right click and it dies.
Owen Foster
>Can I play these games without prior knowledge of D&D rules or should I read up a bit about them before attempting? Yeah, just play the games and enjoy yourself. Also check out Icewind Dale games if you're into dungeon crawlers and definitely check out Arcanum and VtM: Bloodlines for something more unique.
Nicholas Wood
no u
Dylan Gonzalez
In the past, they literally just teleported from the Far Realms, or through time - or more importantly, it's not entirely known how they even just popped up. Not even Aboleths could The illithid bug was just to capture hard to control thralls like Dwarves/Elves that has a natural resistance to mind magic.
Michael Adams
Play KOTOR 1 to get into D&D. Then play BG1 and other infinity engine games
Adam Barnes
I don't know what you're on about m8 but ceremorphosis has been around far longer than 5e. In fact I just went and dug up my ratty old copy of the Illithiad to check.
Because he is a fucking legend and because beamdog deserves to burn.
Hunter Harris
berserker is easy mode
Chase Hughes
You're a good user. It's a shame god is dead. If you've the patience to search through the dead links some of these still work. I know one of the PSTEE links does. drive.google.com/file/d/17MB0gCcCMr3QqE_CgJkaxmdXtZk61TdZ/view
Liam Long
You're a good guy user, we appreciate it
Unless it's dolphin porn, in that case only some of us appreciate it
Ethan Martin
>implying I would share my dolphin stash it's a rare commodity these days you know
anyway I figure I'll upload BG2, IWD, and NWN while I'm at it in case anyone wants them
Matthew Allen
>Ultima VI (with Nuvie source port) >The Complete Ultima VII (with Exult source port and music pack) >Ultima Underworld >Ultima Underworld II
What, no Ultima IV? Ultima IV is the greatest RPG I've ever played in my life. To the best of my recollection, it is the only RPG whose end goal isn't, "kill the big, bad guy." There is spell crafting and completion of the game requires that you behave in certain ways. The only negative thing you can say about Ultima IV is that its sound and graphics are lousy by today's standards.
Josiah Rodriguez
If you got the time and the thread stays up why not, I'd take those. You've already been nice enough though, don't feel obligated to do it
Dylan Brown
Play Might & Magic 6
>easy to learn, just press the attack button and cast a spell from time to time >huge open world to explore, hidden areas only accessible by flying or water walking >some of the best dungeons ever created in vidya >god-tier OST
