Why does Yea Forums hate Red Dead Redemption 2?

Removed romance options, horribly scripted missions so the game will fail you if you try and do something clever, little you do for the camp has any real effect, hunting for pelt quality is annoying and ammo requirements are overdone.

I still like the game, but I don't love it, and it dissapointed me greatly.

that's ok, the game's better on xbox

I guess because of the restrictive mission design, the cumbersome controls and the heavy use of cinematics. I get it, but I still loved the game. I actually don't mind the mix of complete open world freedom and more linear mission structure. If you get tired of one you just engage with the other. Framerate and the controls were honestly the only two issues I had and both of those will be fixed if they ever actually release a fucking PC version.

Because it's not on the Nintendo. It is the most simple answer.

Doesnt let you join the KKK.

Also UNLIMITED COPS. R* believes players want to be chased constantly, when what we want is a chance to actually get away with things if we do things flawlessly.

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one thing i hate abut RDR2 is that it's almost TOO good.

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right, this game should be called Red Dead Niggerlover

Are they gonna include the Lil Nas X tune for the horse's radio on PC?

I don't hate Red Dead. It's a great sleep aid. Sometimes I'll toss and turn for hours and hours but if I try to play this game late at night I'm out in 10 minutes or less.

It's the worst good game I've ever played.

It's tedious through and through. Everything is so fucking slow due to an uncompromising dedication to REALISM (meaning that they're aiming to be as realistic as possible, but still simplifed enough that they still fit into a video game's scope), and it makes the game incredibly unfun to play. The best parts of the game are when the slow speed actually enhances the experience. Slowly riding your horse through a lovingly rendered forest while dawn is breaking and the sun begins to dissolve the morning mist? Shit is magical.

Unfortunately, leaving the player to their own devices isn't actually Rockstar's aim, despite what everyone believes. You are incapable of enjoying all of the game's awesome little systems, like fishing for example, unless you force yourself to slog through some of the most boring story missions I've ever seen. Each one more stale and formulaic than the last with mandatory ride-and-talk moments, brief bursts of action that basically plays itself (because you're definitely going to have auto aim on unless you want to deal with the completely unwieldy aiming when it's off, which makes the game even more of a slog since shooting gallery sections throw scores and scores of enemies at you), and then a wind down with some hackneyed cutscene.

When RDR2 fucks off and lets you play the game like a cowboy simulator? It's great. When RDR2 forces its shitty hackjob story down your throat? It's fucking awful.

The gameplay is far superior in 1, just becuase it looks nicer and has more "realistic" things like horse inventory and cinematic slow walk doesnt make it better.

it disappointed me a lot compared to the first Red Dead Redemption. I don't hate it, but I have no desire to fuck around in the game or 100% it like I did in RDR1. It just made me wanna revisit the first one a lot more. The multiplayer is complete shit designed around more micro-transactions than GTAV. It sucks because there was a lot of cool ideas, but flawed execution. I don't get why they put the camp in the game or kept their morality system when neither really matter too much

how can you dislike rdr2

you can free roam and do whatever the fuck you want in a detailed and lifelike world, even if you dont do story missions.

I work 5 days a week 12 hour shifts and I still managed to beat it in a couple weeks

So you think this game is worse than Shrek Extra Large on the Gamecube...
Or Fallout 76?.. If you are so entitled to call a game that had an 8 year development cycle, then you do better you cuck.

Cowboy life sim is exactly what I wanted. Let me buy a ranch. Let me woo a wife. Let me pull of fun crimes and get away with it if I can. Let me build up my own Ponderosa.

So weird. Most people were sucking this game off at launch and now they're shitting on it

You're a fuckwit. Learn to read.

>Put mask on
>Hop on train in middle of nowhere
>Instantly get bounty on my head
>Infinite lawmen teleport to my location immediately
>They all see through my mask, know who I am, and telepathically transmit this information to everyone in the state
>Bounty exceeds max amount of money I could have made from robbing this train

Fuck this game.

>Get off the mountain in chapter 2
>"Finally, the game begins proper. I can go do all the cool cowboy stuff I wan-"
>Can't buy guns other than one or two because "THIS GUN IS NOT AVAILABLE" pop up. Doesn't even handwave with "Gee, pardner, we're out of stock on that one!"
>Can't meet any of the random job givers outside of their designated story quests
>Can't even fish until you do the mandatory mission where he reveals he keeps a fishing rod on him at all times. Going to the fishing store just says everything is unavailable to you
>Game only has like 3 bounty quests per town because ???

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its because PC video was leaked this morning. never seen this board flip on a game so fucking quick in the 13 years Ive used Yea Forums it was honestly surreal reading threads this morning.

Manually cocking the gun, re equipping guns whenever you dismount the horse, horses tripping over everything, slow animations to pick up objects, too many cutscenes, sluggish controls, etc. RDR1 had none of these problems.
I think many Western games are sacrificing gameplay and entertainment for immersion and realism, and this is a perfect example.
And yes, Devil May Cry is my favorite game series if it wasn't already obvious.

I've had the exact same opinion on the game since I played it at launch. The reason threads for the game seemed like they were overwhelmingly positive is because retards on Yea Forums would dogpile anyone with a negative opinion with 2 SLOW FOR U, ZOOMER?? Even despite that, there were plenty of people who thought the game was a fucking slog.

shit setting

If it would be in Japan, I would play it. But fucking wild west? This is also why I hate GTA5. It's just boring.

If I play a game I want to "learn" something new. I want to see things I don't know. I want to experience something which isn't already told thousands of time. The whole wild west setting is showed so often, that this game is just boring. Combine this which an open world (which requires that you love the setting and want to immerse yourself into the game) and you have a drag of a game which just feels like a time waste.

This is why I liked AC:Origins at first. It was interesting to see Egypt, until you realize that all pyramids were more or less boring and the wild life wasn't that impressive after a while. This is also why I hated AC:Odyssey. It felt like copy pasted with a little less sand and more vegetation.

Can they at least add something to RDO other than pointless fucking multiplayer modes? Story missions and free roam stuff is what people want. It's like GTAO heists all over again.

>give me something new
>this game would be great if it was set in japan
lmao the saddest part is youre not baiting.

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Because people who wanted the game to be a rootin tootin shooter were disappointed and people who wanted RDR2 were not. If you expected it to go at a brisk pace you picked up the wrong fucking game.

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>collect a bunch of shit to make a fire
>push button to make a fire
Hey what if games got rid of useless bullshit like making fires and just focused on the actual gameplay part

The shills that unironically complain about RDR2's story as being shit need to be gassed. Arthur's arc is great and yeah, combat can be fucking dogshit most of the time and having to ride around for fucking hours trying to find a perfect cougar gets fucking annoying, the game has tons of little moments throughout its absurd playtime that make the game for me.
Having Dutch be a proto-commie retard that blames muh yankeeland for all of his problems and having his progressive tendencies rub off on Arthur can get really fucking annoying, but for the most part you can just ignore the autistic shit they say and do and move on in life. The game's far from perfect but it's still good, and I seriously don't get what people mean when they talk about the shooting mechanics being realistic at all. Arthur loads and reloads superhumanly fast and watching him use the Spencer is a little fucky since he managed to find a way to cock the hammer and work the lever all in one move, and Christ how he loads the peacemaker is batshit too

tl;dr, not perfect but great story and only weeb faggots will disagree

Manually cocking the gun was fucking great you pleb

More like why did Yea Forums spend months circlejerking over a walking sim?

It's not weeb trash and has gameplay.

>aiming down sights in first person with the Schoffield while using deadeye
>mfw I watch the hammer slam down in slow mo

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The game is exponentially slower than RDR1 and slow to the point of being a detriment. You can make all the concessions and excuses you want for the game.

Because the aiming controls are so shit that activating deadeye actually makes it harder to hit your target. They had all this stuff to do in a game where the core mechanics of shooting and riding are broken. It's a donut.

because none of them played the game and instead repeated the same tahitiposts over and over

Not on PC

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The blatant shilling by "journalists" was atrocious. All of them said you could enter every building and it was a huge lie.

It's an obtuse game that handholds you through missions with the open world having the same problem as GTA5 and RDR1, where it's massive but fucking empty.
Online sucks, console exclusive and has a myriad of micro problems that make it irritating to play. I had fun with it, but no way in hell do I want to replay it.
Guarma was the most fun part of the game because it had an interesting and new terrain.

To be fair, it has a lot more interiors than most open world games I've seen. Most random farms and houses you come across can be entered, just not all of them or most of the buildings in Saint Denis, otherwise even the towns are mostly enterable

>A single cop sees a fully disguised Arthur
>He is immediately identified and an army is telepathically alerted to come teleport to the threat as soon as possible
>Angry pedestrian randomly assaults Arthur because the clunky garbage locomotion controls made you gently bump them by accident
>Police gun you down with no chance of surrender because your face hurt that poor man's hand
>Howdy Arthur
>Try to aim and greet
>Pull my gun out and point it at their face, resulting in a bloodbath

>Immediately followed by a mission where you are forced to very slowly trot a cart full of feminist protestors to the center of town and beat up everyone that disagrees with them

This game is fucking garbage and seeing all the perfect scores has given me full confidence that the industry is utterly corrupt and all forms of AAA games are perennial scams only retards fall for.

The only slight amount of negative emotion I feel comes the fact that Rockstar has finally succumb to the industry. I knew it was inevitable but I still struggle to accept it.

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>exponentially slower
I don't think you know what that word means

It's nowhere near that slow, and it's to the game's advantage, not detriment.

The Trevor bounty quests were my favorite in GTAV, and I would have loved to see more of them available to Arthur.

They put too much emphasis on realism in some places and not enough in others.

It's good for a playthrough but there isn't much more to say.

Your greetexts are all correct, but I would call the game deeply flawed, but not garbage. It's the only game I yell at because the missions are so frustratingly slow and linear and then when the action starts it floods you with enemies to make it seem "fun".

True, but there was more to it than that. Many of the shallow mechanics/features like horse bonding and hunting were treated to be much more complex than they actually turned out to be. The building one just got me because the first thing I tried to do in Valentine was enter the church and I realized I'd been tricked

Because they're weebs and they feel like whatever meager artistic contribution BOTW et. al. made is threatened by its mere existence.

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This. I started a second file and got bored pretty quickly

You have to do story missions to unlock many features.

I really hope for a PC release just for single player mods.

>Rockstar gets famous by making open world games where you can start a police chase action sequence anywhere
>make a big open world that's mostly trees with fuck all to do
>except kill npcs for political memes lololol
>you have to ride your horse everywhere manually
Maybe it's shit?

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>It's tedious through and through. Everything is so fucking slow due to an uncompromising dedication to REALISM

This ten times over. Too much interaction, just let the character do it in one go please.

GTA V was a slog with all the damn loading screens and animations. Can't even do business missions without interacting with so many things.
>enter building cutscene
>run into office
>Sit in chair
>character logs in computer
>pick business mission
>logout computer
>stand up from chair
>run to exit or more loading screens in elevator
This was somewhat alleviated by the Terrorbyte truck but it's still a lot of tedious crap and modding is really the only way to enjoy online as everything is meant to be a grind as to sell shark cards.

It took them years to even add a goddamn weapon loadout. This happens a lot on RDR2 as well, for some reason weapon loadout gets rearranged and some guns get saddled back on the horse during and after missions. For them to be so anal about interaction and can't even fix simple shit like this is infuriating.

gee I could almost agree to your points until you outed yourself with that last greentext, fuck off, faggot

It's only Chapter 3 you have to reach for that though, not too difficult or time consuming.

I looked this up apparently to commit crimes without getting a bounty..
>wear a mask, you may need to wear a stupid looking animal head because the bandanna isn't enough
>wear clothes you never wear anywhere else and don't change in view of any npcs
>you need another horse because the cops can recognize the horse by it's license plate I guess

Because its not on pc....yet
I didnt find it slog, but it did take me 2months to beat

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The story was 4/10. The gameplay was 9/10. The world was 12/10

>hate
lol you're giving it too much credit
nobody even fucking thinks about this game anymore

This really. Back when my hours were low, I'd play this religiously, but now they're picking back up and I'd rather play a game where I feel like progress is made. You could play RD for hours and barely get shit done.

That's a mini-game
They're not exactly on Yakuza's level

The game takes a big downturn at chapter 5 and your stuck in chapter 6 with TB Arthur which is unappealing to look at until Epilogue 2 since part 1 is limited like chapter 1.

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None of that is true
Lawmen have magic powers and instantly recognize Arthur regardless of what you wear. The moment one of them sees you, you get a bounty. The mask just prevents civilians from reporting you.

Set a waypoint then activate the cinematic camera. Horse will auto travel.

If you try to get the 70 gold medals by replaying missions, the game gives you like 2 shit guns, no snake oil or anything and a shit horse that will be gassed after 2 steps.

This should have been released on pc so the mechanics of the game actually worked, since consoles don't have the power to play this game at a comfortable frame rate. Instead we have heavily implemented auto-aim activated, so the really just plays like a movie, which in all honesty is such a shame and a wasted great experience.

It’s literally coming to pc retard

Yeah I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with that. It's not even like it challenges your skills it just outright fucks you over.

Supposedly replaying missions let you use the rare weapons like Midnight's Mauser and Otis Miller's revolver but even then you get fuck all and barely any ammo to begin with. It's a hassle replaying that one mission just to use the glitch that lets you got to New Austin and Great Plains, I'm pretty pissed they patched that.

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They patched the C4 New Austin glitch? Fucking Rockstar suck dick.

Yeah, there are at least like 3 missions that are impossible to gold because the horse they give you is so fucking shit. Even that brother of Arthur's oneitis got away from me because the horse puked its lungs out.

>it’s too real blah blah
No, it’s a shitty game because it isn’t real enough.
>Lancaster repeater is constantly winding up on my back
First of all, I was maining the shotgun. Second, if I get caught without it then let me deal with it.

Rather then having to jump into action and get a rifle from a dead enemy, they teleport a weapon onto you.

>try to flank the enemy and get a game over screen because you left the area
What the fuck

>cops know who you are instantly
>no high stakes poker
>no prostitutes
>no NPC follower
Seriously what the fuck is up with that? The AI supports it.
>most enemy characters are forgettable
And on and on.
I loved Redemption 1. I was so hype for this game, but I just feel forced on this mediocre on-rails experience.

Outed himself?

When did Yea Forums become pro SJW?

Summed up nicely. The on-rails experience that makes up most of modern vidya is fucking cancer.

It's inferior to Breath of the Wild.

if you are going to criticize a game stop talking out of your ass.

It's true though. Breath of the Wild had a vibrant world that's fun to explore, engaging combat, and doesn't force you to adhere to the story.

You're just placed in a wide, fantasy world, and you can do whatever you want.

>has the worst horse code by far out of all red dead games
when I am moving FORWARD my horse should not instantly go 30 degrees to the left and slam into a tree at full speed

fix your god damn game and stop letting poos code things

oh for fucks sakes

the combat in botw is ABSOLUTE SHIT, you can poke at an enemy and do a shitty side hop and "flurry rush", it's absolute garbage relative to OOT/MM/WW/TP and even SS. And unlike that game, your guns dont break after 5 shots in rdr2.

the world in rdr2 is so much more interesting and full of things to see/do.

>Why does Yea Forums hate Red Dead Redemption 2?
Jealousy of it's success, relevancy and quality compared to products and things they've put a personal investment into

>things that never happened: the post

do the following:
hold your left stick forward
get to a decent speed
go within a few feet of the tree while going at that decent speed

what you will notice is that the game pulls your horse into trees and rocks without input from you
if you have not noticed this you are either baiting and/or have not played the game long enough to have experienced it

Wow, that pic's lod almost as good as Skyrim.

*starts yawning*

It literally does not
I've put dozens of hours into the game and this has never happened to me
You're fucking baiting, post video proof or get out

I find it slow paced and tedious. Nothing seems particularly fun right from the get go, which is definitely not how I remembered 1 to be.

fuck off kike, your experience in all of chapter 1 does not mean it does not happen
i am not at my ps4 right now so i cannot provide footage
i gave your retarded ass a simple set of 3 steps for how to experience what i experienced when i beat the storyline + all side missions within a week of it coming out

they always bs like that for rockstar games, I remember they said you could burn down every building in rdr1

The only time I got a mission fail for flanking was on the oil field raid when I tried to go around the train and it literally ruined the end of the game for me. I reloaded a previous save and redid the ending because it was so jarring.

So did I you piece of shit and this literally never happened through dozens of hours of gameplay
I don't have to prove a fucking negative, it's on you to post proof that your stupid ass statement is correct

Name literally one (1) game whose immersion, attention to detail, and general feel matches that of a Rockstar game while set in Japan.

Oh wait, you can’t, because you’re jumping on the fucking retard fallacy of “historic Japan is overdone.”

Fuck you. I lurk every day and post maybe twice per year and I needed to post to tell you what a fucking dumb retarded faggot you are. I’m not an animefag but historic Japan is one of the most interesting and woefully underdone settings for video games and you should be ashamed of your words and deeds.

Because everything is either cumbersome, inaccurate, or automatic. Despite the constant claims of immersion from RDR2 fans, I never once felt that I had true control over my character. There was always a delay, always another animation for tiny little movements. Also every mission is exactly the same.

Oh shut the fuck up. Wild West is absolutely more interesting than historic japan unless you bring in myth and folklore.

I don't like it because it's not a good game. The "forced" realism shit drags the game down way too much. Fucking god of war was more of a game than RDR2.

I don't, the story is pretty fun honestly, takes awhile to 100% but thats just the way i like it when i playthrough a game, the multiplayer sucks though.

It's shit until it comes to PC and I get to play it without paying for it.

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Because Red Dead Redemption 1 is better.

When will we get the nice movie?

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I find it cumbersome to play and the online isn't fun

I have no tolerance for propaganda anymore

Kek this as well.

>Wild west is dying
>Population is scarce
>2/3 of the population seems to be cops

This.
I struggled to beat the game because it was filled with white male propaganda. What a fucking piece of shit

>not perfect but great story

That's funny given that these two things:
>combat can be fucking dogshit most of the time
>Having Dutch be a proto-commie retard that blames muh yankeeland for all of his problems and having his progressive tendencies rub off on Arthur can get really fucking annoying

Make up about 70% of the story missions. Almost every single plot point in the main missions is about Dutch rallying the gang to get more money in just one last job so they can leave society because it's just the worst.

How can you defend the story as great when you yourself call like 50% of it annoying? All of the good character interactions for Arthur happen outside the main story missions and you have to slog through 4 fucking chapters, kind of 5 because it's really starting to happen there, of everyone slobbing on Dutch's knob and Arthur just doing whatever Dutch says before he realizes that Dutch is a stupid cunt.

Chapters 3 and 4 are completely retarded. No one likes chapter 5. Everyone thinks the game has a great story because of all the emotional resonance the last chapter has, but it's a very small portion of the game's story and people somehow blind themselves to the fact that the vast majority of the story missions are complete shit.

>Jealousy of it's
Right off the bat you've shown you have an IQ below 70.

Because they're underage zoomers who have no attention spans. Just look at

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Didnt really improve on rdr1 when it comes to the gameplay and even story presentation. Oddly enough the game is a much more enjoyable hunting "simulator" than whatever scripted cowboy game r* wanted it to be.

Both of these I can somewhat resonate with, the missions were a tad too scripted and there weren't enough missions where you're given the end goal but you have the freedom to execute it the way you want. Probably a large reason for that was tethering the player to an NPC or two in almost all missions.

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I honestly can't think of a single sequence in RDR1 as fun as the shootout in Valentine when freeing Micah.

If anything it's the best game ever to play on opiates riding around the coyntry side is relaxing as fuck

>Valentine
You mean Strawberry.

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