What IS fascism?

what IS fascism?

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An interesting but impractical political ideology with a very sharp dress sense

it's simultaneously an outdated political ideology that can only be applied to 1920-1930's italy, while also being an omnipresent transcendent demon that lurks within every human being, within every form of human interaction, every political system and even within language itself. Where two or three people gather, there Hitler gathers with them.

Stalinism, but the twist is that it is being upfront about its own authoritarian nature. Instead of smoke and mirrors about "dictatorship of the proletariat", masquerading colonial expansionism as "internationalism" etc.

It's not communism. Other than most "fascist" governments having militaristic/imperial ambitions there's really not much that brings any two fascist nations together, other than their hate of communism. The fact it is so reactive and not necessarily binded to a 2d line of left/right/centre is the reason it may be referred to as the"third way".
I'd say go to /his/ for this but /pol/ would hijack the thread quickly

>Other than most "fascist" governments having militaristic/imperial ambitions there's really not much that brings any two fascist nations together, other than their hate of communism.
The hate for communism is more coincidental than anything. Hitler himself openly said that commies are more acceptable among their ranks than liberals or social democrats, and Italian fascism drew heavily from Marxism.

a white person advocating for his own interests.

Practical socialism.

yer doin it wrong its: 'define fascism'

Would love a source for that pal, since I'd imagine he'd say that to attract possible voters to his ranks. Can you really say it's coincidental that fascists hate Communists when they spent a decade plus literally fighting in the streets?

the sociological equivalent of daddy issues

A glorified vision of the past to embolden armed division

>fascism
>glorified vision of the past
It's not really, and that's one of the key differences between fascism and conservatism or reactionary politics. Why do you think they drew so heavily from futurism?

Fucking idiot, stop posting.

>demon
>urge to renew the nation
ftfy

I mean demon in the Classical pre-christian sense, as a sort-of psychic shadow of an individual.

It is simply the belief that the nation belongs to the people and all things should serve the people's best interest in a way that is logically consistent with what we know about nature. No two fascist systems are the same because there are different forms of this ideal based on the people in question and the problems they face. For example, Hitler's fascism was racial.

Why would you want to associate ethnonationalism with an ideology that had the ambition of colonizing fellow white europeans and genociding them?

Tell that to the people who whine fascist whenever there's white nationalism. Doesnt matter that in WW2 the USA and Britain were far more white nationalist than Germany was.

Not bad actually.

Anyway you morbs read Eco and more, if you actually care for an answer. It's not like this is an esoteric questions, albeit almost.

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There is no easy definition outside of specific times and places because every single country that adopted fascism did so in a unique way. Italian fascism is not German fascism which is not Hungarian or Portuguese. Some people define it in terms of authoritarianism, militarism, hierarchism, or certain other economic and social policies among other things but that's a mistake since all of these things come in different forms and a country can adopt all of them to some degree and still not be fascist. This is why I don't take seriously anyone who talks about fascism without reference to a specific country or practice.

dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/the-f-word/

Yeah i know, they will call you that way no matter what.
Though very often white nationalists will come to a rally with nazi symbols, which ends up confirming the suspicions that normies have about WN.

(((fellow white europeans)))

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Fascism is when mom's STILL not back with the groceries and you need a strong leader to MAKE THE TRAINS RUN ON TIME.

I suppose you could call anything that rejects communism and capitalism fascist or fascistic. That's not how idiots use the word though.

>Where two or three people gather, there Hitler gathers with them.
Just one measly little Hitler per three people?

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It's from Matthew 18:20

fucking your sister and trolling post 2016

Fascism is peak demagoguery. You still suffer working a 9 to 5 and the police can kick down your door if you criticise the state but at least you feel a vague sense of collective pride when you peer out at the shimmering fields in the sunlight (not those ones; the ones without the killing squads).

I'm sure that the majority of French, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian and Greek people were all just jews.

You realize that most western european countries are already like this, exept they are leftwing pro-immigration and that you get the police to kick down your door because you posted something true on twatter.

There is unironically nothing wrong with fucking your own sister, indeed it's beautiful and pure.

>you posted something true
citation needed

But it smells bad because of the uncomplimenting immune systems.

wtf.
just wiki inbreeding and look at the citations you fucking incest redneck fuckface disgusting cunt.

>t. someone who never smelled his own sis

The chances of producing progeny with genetic issues isn't actually that high.
And if you are going to go with eugenics, why are ugly and retarded people like you allowed to breed?

genuine question, have you actually fucked your own sister?

People like this still exist? We have condoms now bigot

yea ok pomo fascism is fucking your sister with a condom nice one

For 99% of people, pic related.

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I fucked both my older and my younger sisters.
Younger sis is my current gf.

>Italian fascism drew heavily from Marxism.
per Mussolini, fascism is an explicit rejection of materialism and class struggle. It's the complete antithesis to Marxism

I used to look at old political propaganda posters and flyers and laugh at how silly they were. "Surely the people in those days weren't so foolish they'd take these seriously", I thought. Seeing propaganda memes makes me shudder to think they could be even worse than the people who post those.

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>what is fascism

Oh no not working 9-5, the horror

> Hitler himself openly said that commies are more acceptable among their ranks than liberals or social democrats

Is that why he infamously purged all of the communist leaning people from his political organization in an event known as the 'Night of the Long Knives'?

the fascist tactic is to pretend to be friends with communists to get the pre-emptive strike. this must change in the 21st century.

slavs aren't white

slavs are white stfu cunt

Whiter than you amerimutt

You mean the slavs who probably have the most pale, blue-eyed blondes after the nordics? How much whiter can you get?

Au contraire my European relative, whiteness as an identity has ONLY existed in America -- a land where the ethnic enmities of the old land could no longer divide us.

It's not pretending to be friends with commies. It's just saying "you can join us or die", instead of just saying "you're going to die". It's a small privilege.

stfu subhuman

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If he's not white, what is he?

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH
you are such a bitch irl if you walked out of your room rn you would be shaking.
lets be real though, put me in a room with hitler and i would end his life with my bare fists. he was shaky just like u

The Soviet New Man

crony kratocracy

>colonizing fellow white europeans and genociding them
I don't know where you're getting this from. Hitler personally sent an ultimatum to the Polish commandants before the bombing of Warsaw to surrender and gave civilians time to retreat by two roads. But I guess it was just his master plan to subjugate them later right

> I guess it was just his master plan to subjugate them later right
Since that is what he did in fact do... yes.

proof?

>whiteness as an identity has ONLY existed in America
Dilate tranny
Also racial classification as a science and the concept of caucasian emerged in Europe.

>proof?
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH kys faggot

Read Hitler's Table Talk

hey tranny faggot cunt caucasian doesn't even mean white it means people from the caucaus. the meaning was distorted by retarded "whites" like yourself all around the world esp america.

Rosenberg- supported by Ribbentrop, Zeitzler, and Goebbels- wanted to win the subject peoples' support in the fight against Stalin.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army
Here Hitler claimed that the German people had never wished ill to the inhabitants of Russia. "But for two decades the Jewish-Bolshevik rulers of Moscow have endeavoured to set not only Germany but all Europe alight."

It's debunked

Genoud, Heim and Picker's "Table Talk": A Study in Academic Fraud and Scandal - Veronica Clark
inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4880
archive.is/yxprm

"Hitler's" Table Talk?: A Study in Academic Fraud and Scandal - Weronika Kuzniar
amazon.com/Hitlers-Table-Talk-Powerwolf-Publications/dp/1548258768

Hitler's Table Talk and Other Extraneous Sources - Jim Walker
nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
archive.is/xIwgB

Hitler's Table Talk: An Update
richardcarrier.info/archives/10978
archive.is/S2tgX

VK Clark on 'Table Talk' Fraudulence
aryanism.net/blog/other/table-talk-fraud/
archive.is/QAqHY

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland
I guess you didn't get to that part in history class yet.

Dilate retard; yeah the concepts emerged in Europe but were repeatedly used to divide Europeans (i.e. superiority of the paler Scandinavian and German stock, they were considered the only 'pure' Caucasians by many early racial theorists). It takes an OTHER for an identity to emerge and that OTHER was most established in America by the existence of a large imported black slave population and briefly by Native Americans. So yes, a white identity to a great extent did emerge more in America than in Europe.

Buddy I don't know who you think you're convincing by quoting Hitler, the man that came up with the political technique of the 'Big Lie'.

Totalitarian, nationalist, revolutionary, statist, and (theoretically) syndicalist. An Italian importation of decomposed French marxism turned anti-materialist and attuned to the power of myth

I wouldn't call it a complete antithesis. More of an attempt at triangulation. It is not so ideologically straitjacketed as to view property relations as the overriding question of politics. It calls for class compromise mediated by the state, not for the maximization of political and economic liberty as a lassiez-faire capitalist would.

what are you even saying you uneducated fuck?
you realize people can say 1 thing and do another right?
i could prolly fuck your gf and say hey man you're my best friend you understand and you would laugh it off and say AHAHHAHAHAH YEA YOU ARE cos you're a fucking illiterate dogshit loser.

It's pretty cringe bro, that's what it is.

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army
looks like you forgot to read

alright so everything Hitler said is a lie and everything and all allies said is true, god, you're a very smart person!

I wouldn't use the quotes of allied leaders to show that they did or not do something either, I would use THEIR ACTIONS you dumb fuck.

i dont need to read fucking shit about russia you fucking cunt, you were talking about poland and your only proof was "HITLER SAID HE DIDNT MEAN IT". bro just stfu and gimme your gf's fb i will fuck her rough and i will say i didn't mean it.

>During the period of the mid-19th to mid-20th century,[34] race scientists, including most physical anthropologists classified the world's populations into three, four, or five races, which, depending on the authority consulted, were further divided into various sub-races. During this period the Caucasian race, named after people of the North Caucasus (Caucasus Mountains) but extending to all Europeans, figured as one of these races, and was incorporated as a formal category of both scientific research and, in countries including the United States, social classification

So bombing innocent civilians? ok, now I'm convinced you're really some kind of genius.

you think hitler didn't lie? are you fucking retarded?

I don't feel a need to defend allied atrocities but you feel the need to defend Nazi atrocities :)

>It takes an OTHER for an identity to emerge and that OTHER was most established in America by the existence of a large imported black slave population and briefly by Native Americans. So yes, a white identity to a great extent did emerge more in America than in Europe.
I agree, when you have to deal with shitskins it is natural that a sort of brotherhood emerges among all whites.

you realize you're just supporting what i said. don't worry it's okay you're a uneducated piece of dogshit dw about it

This guy gets it. That's why ameri-mutt memes are so funny. The melting pot is our greatest strength. I predict Asians will be the next ethnic minority to be assimilated into the white identity.

Did you ever learn how to fucking read? Ofcourse I don't.

Fuck commies
Fuck liberals
Fuck moderates
Fuck conservatives
Fuck reactionaries
Fuck kikes

i did. yea of course you didn't.

"As a private person I would never break my word," he would confide to Hewel in June 1941. " But if it is necessary for Germany- then a thousand times!"
paradox

your proof of hitler never lying is an anecdote of hitler saying something to someone?
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
imagine being uneducated

How is Hitler lying in that quote when there was a fucking Russian liberation army fighting on the German side to defeat Stalin?

Caucasian meant white even in the racial classification made by europeans, which was then adopted by americans.

The amerimutt meme has more to do with the current racial composition of america and race mixing with nonwhites

Historically speaking the ameri-mutt meme has always existed, always referring to the latest foreign ethnic group off the boat.

It's funny how in america lefties try to pretend that being white isn't a biological identity and that the only real identity is ethnicity, such as european ethnic identities.
But in europe they are trying to unify all european white countries while at the same time trying to deconstruct and destroy national ethnicities.
It isn't even coherent, but it doesn't matter. What ever the narrative is, it's always about destroying white people.

Lingustic and cultural differences don't really matter, the only thing that matters is race.

Being white is a biological fact but there is no such thing as a 'biological identity'. The fact is that both a white identity and European ethnic identities were culturally and politically established in addition to the existence of a biological basis. The cultural and political aspects feed back into the biological aspect in a loop, increasing the extent to which the cultural identities are reflected in biological fact.

So you are mistaken.

you were talking about poland at first. you change the topic to some russian seperatist nazis like some fucking dogshit cunt.
either way the quote could be applied to anything. "I WOULD NEVER BREAK MY WORD" you realize he broke the pact he had with russia and attacked them out of nowhere like the pussy he is?
read what i typed then read what you typed. you're just proving my point even further. are you an actual retard?

>Being white is a biological fact
no you fucking retard. "white" isn't real. italians are considered white and they black and arab blood. many more examples esp. if you look at whats socially considered white in america.
seriously when will you die?

>but there is no such thing as a 'biological identity'
Then identity has no value

Biological fact in a very shallow sense. You can find some rough similarities biologically between all people considered ‘white’ in the common parlance but they don’t necessarily have deep implications. And just because there are some blurry cases doesn’t mean the concept doesn’t exist at all, just that it gets ambiguous on the edge. Seriously the facts are all out there, we can almost exactly determine if someone is considered white by looking at their DNA. In that sense, yes, it is a ‘biological fact’.

>in a very shallow sense
ok so you accept when you typed that you were a stupid fucking retard cool