Why no PES threads? I see some FIFA threads some times, but no PES one...

PES 06 is the best

>hidden diamond
I'm sorry but PES has been better than FIFA since International Superstar Soccer Pro Evolution back on the PS2. Better late than never though huebro.

CL has nothing to do it with, the rise of Ultimate Team and the lack of licenses for basic things like EPL is what hurts PES
That and a poor start to last gen consoles means it's been playing catchup since. They lost UCL after they already lost a large part of the market

FIFA is for people who doesn't know how to play football videogames.

Been playing Fifa from 2005-2019. Purchased PES this year because was sick of FIFA's broken mechanics. Started playing PES and loved it for the first two weeks. I play only manager mode on PES. Like I said it was great at first, much better ball physics than FIFA and much more realistic in that regard however I started to realise that all the goals I was conceding in manager mode were from low crosses. This, along with the poor transfer system were a 38 year old xavi Hernandez cost as much as Leroy sane killed the manager mode experience for me. But yeah, if they fixed those two things and had the licenses I would never touch Fifa again. But because they havnt I am back to Fifa ultimate team where i at least have a sick team with Ronaldinho, Neymar, toty Marcelo and toty VVD.

W I N N I N' E L E V E N N I N E

they fixed the low cross thing with the first patch.
hasn't been an issue for 3 months now.

shit was bad, you're right.
licenses never were a problem to me thanks to the community patches.

i only play ML offline. shit's cash.

Every PES always has one or more exploitable, unstoppable cheese tactics, sadly. I gave up on it when '16 came out for current gen and all the cheap little shitty things like catchup bug and co that had been blamed on the limitations of "old code for old hardware limitations" were still there. Shame because the actual gameplay is generally so much better than FIFA.

>pes16
Yeah, it had too many goals for my taste. I mean, one match ended 6-8

Normies only care about the licenses