/classical/

Peter and the Wolf Edition

youtube.com/watch?v=Va8Uz6MoKLg

>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #3. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to late 19th century
mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #5. Very eclectic mix
mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #6. Deutsche Grammophon stuff. Also there's some other stuff in here.
mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy Folder.
mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Jewish Folder
mega.nz/#F!lk0lGSTQ!SAIvBwgyVF1EGEMUjranEw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Book Folder #1. Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
>Book Folder #2. Comprehensive list of the most important harpsichord and piano pieces through history
mega.nz/#F!1xJgVSLA!i2eLakjehx5DY8qYUzS0Zg

>Classical music recommendations
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She never loved me
Music for this?

youtube.com/watch?v=uFNyc2eLW5c

Schumann

youtube.com/watch?v=iVxkv8V-yCk

youtu.be/XDbESDdZmfY

"I do not scorn, even though my heart is torn,
love forever forlorn, I do not scorn.
As you may shine in diamond splendor bright,
there falls no ray into your heart's black night.
That much I know.

I do not scorn, even though my heart is torn,
in a dream I saw you,
and saw the night splitting your heart in two,
and saw the snake eating away your heart,
I saw, my love, how miserable you are."

The original:
"Ich grolle nicht, und wenn das Herz auch bricht,
Ewig verlor'nes Lieb, ich grolle nicht.
Wie du auch strahlst in Diamantenpracht,
Es fällt kein Strahl in deines Herzens Nacht.
Das weiß ich längst.

Ich grolle nicht, und wenn das Herz auch bricht,
Ich sah dich ja im Traum,
Und sah die Nacht in deines Herzens Raum,
Und sah die Schlang', die dir am Herzen frißt,
Ich sah, mein Lieb, wie sehr du elend bist."

youtube.com/watch?v=lQNcTYVlcEg

Bach

youtube.com/watch?v=eOCnPSfUidQ

Remember that time Mozart wrote a poem for his dead bird?

Only a poem? Telemann wrote a whole cantata. Cantata of Funeral Music for an Artistically Trained Canary-Bird Whose Demise Brought the Greatest Sorrow to His Master.

I just consumed prokofiev 2 live eat me

Go listen to Mahler like the Cuck you are
but if you want to stop being a softboy start listening to Josquin

Is this supposed to be a guy? Why does he has such a cute girly face

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There's alot of gay renaissance/baroque paintings like this

>gay

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It's Mars by Piero di Cosimo. It was quite likely painted for a bedchamber so the artist most likely faggyfied the god of war to not make his client's boner wilt. Michelangelo was so gay that he found it difficult to depict women so he often just depicted men and bolted on some tits.

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Mozart had the best taste in art, literally. *BRRAAAAP*

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Randomly listening to a Bjork song made me wonder
Is there a composer of lieds who is voice + cello or another string instrument instead of voice + piano?

Don't think there's any composer that does that consistently but there's quite a few one offs or transcriptions.
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>lieds

Oh, forgot this one with possibly the one of the stupidest classical covers ever.
youtube.com/watch?v=NQmLPfbPK4w

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Mahler

mahler or bruckner incelcore

nice

Bruckner is incelcore, Mahler is cuckcore

sorry
mahler, or bruckner incelcore

Maybe he should just listen to Wagner, knock up his friend's wife and marry her

or mabye listen to schubert, get a hooker, and die of syphilis

Incel tier immune system

Alcoholism and cheap wine in leaded glass bottles, man. Fucked up Beethoven too.

petzold

Rachmaninoff
youtube.com/watch?v=yr1xn-Af0gc

>that tummy
lewd

Haendel youtube.com/watch?v=RDQudC3mm4s

Post Wagner
youtube.com/watch?v=PXQOX1SphYw

Bach

youtube.com/watch?v=C9UVmVnK78g

What are some composers that you have to listen to while very attentive to fully appreciate, like Mozart?

Schumann

youtube.com/watch?v=yg9aoCI6u3Q

None of them, literally elevator music.

Wagner

>listen to Rachmaninoff piano concerto n°2
>it's fucking great
>mfw

Bait?

not sure
he is l'art pompier and often a second look pays off with it i think

A second look always pays off I'm sure I just wouldn't consider him to be very discrete and reserved composed. But after all I may be a pleb.

>r*ddit
>masturbating over rachmaninoff piano concertos, chopin waltzes and other normie tier classical
What's wrong with them?

requesting emotive piano pieces

youtube.com/watch?v=xIkv2q7EgyU

youtube.com/watch?v=CWBoMXMk0F8

is it weird that my favorite form of classical is choral music?

What the fuck does /classical/ think of Hector Berlioz desu?

decent composer
master orchestrator
based turbo autist

No, that's correct, choral is the best.
youtube.com/watch?v=OY2vixVCr1M

petzold

>reddit
>normie
woah really? revelatory.

pet
zold

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based

Schumann

youtube.com/watch?v=i5gMQH7pJbg

Schumann
youtube.com/watch?v=zaX0IjTMChI

Couldn't into voice-leading, like all guitarists

Crude in every way but orchestration, but nonetheless effective

youtu.be/mJ9o6PPSL88

would you call this classical? i think they're pretty excellent piano miniatures

No I asked the original question and I do agree.

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death to boomers

Hell yeah. That was fast.

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Well, I guess that's one way to deal with tape distortion...

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What tracker is that? I've kinda stopped buying CDs since what died.

I would say that the Bruckner 5 definitely seems to be from a different source by comparison to the Testament issue, which was from the master tapes. That, or it's just heavily processed. Probably the latter.

It seems that the people who put this set together have opted for fake, "ambient" stereo which seems to be all the rage on historical recordings these days. Dunno if one is obviously better than the other, though. It probably depends on whether or not you want a straight transfer or something that's more manipulated.

redacted. what clone with some of the same staff iirc.

Aw. Sadly the Brahms 2 with Fischer doesn't really sound that great. It's certainly from a different source, but it's also quite a bit noisier and the piano distortion is even more audible.

Which scriabin sonata is the best?

Haha. Wow. So they did a cut-off at 12khz and then added noise above it, likely using ambiance match (notice the pattern?)

I've done this myself a few times on some really distorted recordings but it's kind of funny to see it here since I thought it was fairly amateurish.
5 or 9 IMO.

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You can see the exact moment where the restoration guy was just like "fuck this"

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What the fuck? What the actual fuck?

I wish it was illegal to not release unfiltered, uncompressed copies of such old masters for preservation purposes.

>The good:
Furt's Piano Concerto recording with Fischer is finally in a listenable recording. Previous issues are fucking awful, this seems to be from a far better source.

1939 recording of Beethoven's 5th in fairly decent quality - I have heard this only one other time, off of a pirate label, and it was quite awful sounding. I am unaware of any other releases.

Strauss Four Songs (Op. 33) with Anders sounds better than previous issues.

The 1942 Tristan Prelude / Liebstod sounds better than previous issues.

The 1942 recording of Mozart's 39 is here in a fairly untainted transfer, and that's great because it sounds a million times better than the far more commonly issued 1944 recording, also included, and still sounding quite bad.

The Beethoven 4th without audience is here and sounds pretty alright.

The famous Coriolan from 1943 sounds a bit better than most previous issues. It's also mostly unfiltered.

The equally famous 1943 5th is here utilizing the far superior source which has only previously appeared on the "Great Conductors of the 20th Century" series, and is surprisingly not well known for having this superior source. It seems to be mostly untouched too.

The fantastic Beethoven 4th with Conrad Hansen -- in my opinion one of the best recordings of the piece, period -- is here in a mostly straight transfer and sounds fine.

The 1943 Brahms PC2 with Adrian Aeschbacher is here, pitch corrected, and sounds mostly straight. It was never a great sounding recording, but most previous issues suffered from severe pitch problems. The piano is, at the very least, less distorted than the Fischer recording, but you have to balance that against the inferior orchestral image by comparison.

The mostly incomplete 1943 recording of Brahms' 1st, the one with just the finale, is here and sounds pretty alright. Seems to be a straight transfer. I can only compare it to the M&A issue, though, and that's quite an old transfer.

It's all in one place?

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what's the best classical song

>Mostly unchanged/lacking in substantial improvement
Handel Concerto Grossi
Strauss Don Juan
Schumann PC & CC
Schubert 8th & 9th
Sibelius VC & En Saga
Bruckner 9th
Etc.

I will say, though, that for the Bruckner 9th it *sounds* like there's a little bit less distortion in the Scherzo. Otherwise, though, it's fairly similar to DG's previous issues, though featuring some mild ambient stereo.

youtube.com/watch?v=hv5t7pOs4vc

>The bad
Wagner's Meistersinger Overture. Newly discovered recording? Either that or it's from the film that Furt did around this time. Either way, it sounds pretty bad and looking at the spectrals it was obvious a lazy restoration/remaster.

The famous 1942 Beethoven 9th. It's more distorted and noisier than ever, which is impressive. At the same time, though, they did a lazy equalization cutoff to get rid of some of the distortion, but it still manages to sound worse than most issues. Also, the 4th movement is off pitch. Nicely done.

Bruckner's 5th. This is actually one of Furt's best wartime recordings both performance and soundwise and we're incredibly fortunate to have a straight unmolested transfer from Testament. Listen to that. This is just badly equalized psuedo-stereo garbage. Same criticism can be applied to the Bruckner 6th.

Brahms' PC 2 with Fischer. Obviously a different source but sounds very bad. Extremely noisy and even more distorted than ever. Either grab the older DG issue or the one on Testament. Maybe Pristine if you like Harbal and ambient stereo memes.

The famous 1943 recording of Brahms' 4th. This was also never a great sounding recording especially insofar as the 1st movement was concerned, but it has even more distortion and noise than previous issues and is quite lazily restored. See for the spectrals. They didn't even bother to remove the tape distortions in the final movement, which I can do in like a few seconds.

That's it pretty much. So this is the first time the BPO have officially sanctioned something like this for Furtwangler, I think. And, honestly, I think it's pretty sloppy overall. There's definitely some stuff there that's perfectly fine but overall their approach is inconsistent and lacking at worst. The best thing you can say is that you have it all in one place, I suppose.

Is this worth 229 dollars? Not a chance.

Yes and no. Read my posts.

I'm going to upload it for you guys anyway.

Just saw them lmao. Thanks for the upload anyways, can't say no to more Furt.

>furtwangler
Yeah thanks but no. I'll take Böhm.

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Fur elise

That's cool man

Fuck that 1943 Brahms 1st is so good. I wish we had the other 3 movements. What an exciting performance.

I am currently working on an overture which is my first attempt at writing "classical" music. I thought I'd share a few clips with you all. The pic in OP caught my eye because I loved Peter and the Wolf as a kid and, like in that, the characters in my story each have their own theme which is introduced early on and comes up often during the music. The main characters in my story are the Hero, the powerful friend (betrays the Hero) and the beautiful princess. Hope you enjoy

Princess' Theme
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Villain's Theme
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Just a motive, not tied to any character or event
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Winterreise
Die schöne Müllerin
Schubert is THE man for this feel

holy crap lois it's parsi english-born composer sorabji

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Listening to Faure but too lazy to type out the piece’s name, you’ll just have to guess

Hopefully it's the string quartet
youtube.com/watch?v=abZlsz4b4Yo

scryjyijnyyjiclynysirlytschlyniliilyiiiiiiyynin
youtu.be/ziNTYRzMGlQ?t=195

>guitarist
barley
ive got his 36 pieces for guitar and its not great
tbf he was young though

4 seasons

I fell asleep when I was uploading the Furtwangler set. Here it is:
mega.nz/#F!6BlW2IDS

key: VU4dgs1MZumrpXTGcA3wQQ

Since it's like 5gb I just opted to upload it in a folder format instead of archiving it.

Beethoven
youtube.com/watch?v=fzc0M3BuBnY
thank you for making this

Incredibly autistic, and, while his pieces rely on a lot of other factors to deliver what someone else wouldn't need (he has the semi-typical issue of most romantic composers of terrible handling of form, so he uses something else to guide himself).

based

can we make a copypasta or a folder some shit for people who are trying to into classical
dont wanna write and argue over it whenever someone new comes in

Skrjabin
youtube.com/watch?v=K_OcCeVVdZE

based. reading an analysis of his 7th sonata right now.

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>The fantastic Beethoven 4th with Conrad Hansen

it's very good

I'm really into 3 right now. the intermusicality is just

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Schubert

youtube.com/watch?v=ngN0S8RJGZo

what /classical/ think of cziffra?

youtube.com/watch?v=cVdf3OjXiLc
based

Fischer-Dieskau or Prey?

Me

How do I listen to Mozart and not instinctively just hear it as baby music?

Anyone but Fischer-Dieskau.

You can't, he wrote music about poop. You have to embrace your inner baby.

Educate yourself.

Reading Rosen's The Classical Style is probably the quickest way to do that and quite accessible with minimal musical training.

Mozart

youtube.com/watch?v=cy7iN6qUFwQ

Mozart

youtube.com/watch?v=9390xDUuPuU

Prey of course

Have an IQ higher than just 110

FD thought he could take on Hans Sachs with his barren, prim, peppy voice; Prey with a deeper, fuller voice tackled and aced Beckmesser. The winner is clear.

>the legendary Rafael Kubelik returns to Czechoslovakia after 42 years in voluntary exile to conduct his final ever concert: Má vlast ("my homeland") by Bedřich Smetana at the Pražské Jaro annual festival in the year 1990, 6 months after the fall of communism, and in the presence of recently elected democratic president Václav Havel

youtube.com/watch?v=76R0N2GN6Jo

the presidential fanfare at the beginning and the enormous applause at the end always put tears in my eyes

youtube.com/watch?v=XJm45tEKM6k
Prey

Based
Fuck communism

>listening to any post-WWII voicelets

youtu.be/gur0eJZW0Kw

Post-WWII only became a problem for Wagner and Verdi really

The HMV subscription series wipes the floor with pretty much all later Lied recordings, though it certainly helps that you can still hear Lied performances without yelling.

youtu.be/3efQmJu6mKI

he came back from retirement for this too.

did masons kill mozart?

Hans Hotter

*BUZZ BUZZ*

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Scriabin
youtube.com/watch?v=M0Jq2HT92PM

Brahms

youtu.be/CmMRD5Ysd2g

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10/10

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i dont understand how its real

It's not real, CPE Bach didn't have a smart watch.

Nazareth

youtu.be/UWtmW7tejrI

Essential piano teacher core
I remember my piano teacher playing this all the time on her slightly out of tune piano

you don't think it's real until you get a skype from CPE just before bed

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truly is a clown world we live in

These covers are a /classical/ treasure, they must never be forgotten

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another magnitude of cursed

why is that an e-ink laptop?

Strauss

youtube.com/watch?v=QjPzj9T63Bw

>*RING RING*
Bach is calling, do you answer?

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I do but I then realize it's the other Bach and am like *fuck alright let's pretend I wanna talk to him* "hey dude what's up long time no see!"
Then I call the other other Bach and tell him "bro you won't believe who just called again"

petzold

It's the diction that does it for me the most I think. So silky smooth.

the performances actually are pretty fun at least.

youtube.com/watch?v=7i4KVoJbAvQ

Marini

youtu.be/hpKx6i_rkpM

Yeah, it's unobstrusive AND completely intelligible (at least if you're a native German speaker). Fischer-Dieskau's singing, by contrast, is OOPS! all consonants by comparison, like caricature of what German sounds to others.

What are Yea Forums-approved composers?
t. zoomer who discovered classical music and can not stop listening to Chopin for 4 months

Chopin

youtube.com/watch?v=Ce8p0VcTbuA

Pfitzner
youtube.com/watch?v=fkricJghrLg

Mozart
youtu.be/mtjgCKmgJ1g
youtu.be/jH-mgLLnSQ4
youtu.be/0e7zpw-B_FE
youtu.be/TBZiYtd3_rE
youtu.be/sn6my0N8xO4

Recommend me some piece similar to Toccata and Fugue in D Minor.

And any good harpsichord pieces

What are moments in Beethoven's orchestral works where you would call the orchestration both beautiful (as in: Interesting in its own right, hard to imagine otherwise without losing significant effect) and effective (executed adequately most of the time, not usually let down by poor balancing)?

The only ones that come to mind immediately are the 5th piano concerto (especially the first movement), the slow movement of the 9th, and the 6th symphony, especially the first two movements.

I also really like the climax of the double fugue in the Eroica's slow movement, but it only shines if the woodwinds get their due.

some pieces*****

The good one that's actually by Bach?
youtu.be/a94Mqw2U0UM

Or the bad one that might just be a 19th century forgery?

Berlioz

youtu.be/s5ABJ6u_3ZA

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youtube.com/watch?v=JzIQltbVrHg

The bad one.

>I also really like the climax of the double fugue in the Eroica's slow movement, but it only shines if the woodwinds get their due.
The dance of woodwinds is quite amazing in the Eroica, but I do feel like it suffers from being let down by poor balancing much of the time.

I agree with the 6th symphony. It's usually pretty effective in that most recordings do well with it at the very least.

>the flute when it has to take over the trumpet line in the first movement's recapitulation

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I feel like Tennstedt balances the Eroica fairly well in the finale.

a.uguu.se/HtvAlLkYZhOS.ogg

Non-meme answer is Monteverdi, Bach, CPE Bach, Handel, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, and Schoenberg to name some.
Chopin is mostly either brought up for shitposting by saying he's entry-level or to shitpost that only contrarians dislike him and they're gay.

Scriabin

youtube.com/watch?v=JNyFgQamVMk

More like this?

If you had to transcribe the Eroica by ear, there's no better than Monteux/Concertgebouw though.

In terms of balance it has everything you could ask for, and the French oboes do a much better job at cutting through the strings than the more modern Böhm oboes. He even uses a rare non-German antiphonic setup! (V1-Va-Vc/B-V2)

youtu.be/-wP1mmNxV5o

Eternal top 3 together with Scherchen/VSOO '58 and Klemperer/RDO '57, with Coates not far behind.

youtube.com/watch?v=HuJzbRh-5nE

I believe I uploaded the Coates in a more modern transfer awhile ago, here it is again for anyone who missed it. Also includes his very fast Jupiter. Some might say too fast, but I like it.

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Best way to learn piano without a teacher ? pls halp.

I really recommend a teacher, at least for your first year. The ways in which your posture and finger use can upset your touch are innumerable, and bad habits picked up early are the worst. Furthermore, it's touch more than anything else that will enable you to make anything sound musical, even simple pieces - and there's no better motivation than that.

I just found out my dad has been secretly smoking pot nearly every single day for the past 20 years and now in his old age it has fucked with his memory and he refuses to stop
Music for this feel?

youtube.com/watch?v=h84iZjKeq9w

Fuck I was gonna post it it's such a good piece

More weedcore: youtu.be/iGLi84edjho

ugh fine.

I really like this, got any more like it?

youtu.be/8CxaCtJAY58

this is way too fast and sloppy

much better is the Bruggen recording:
youtube.com/watch?v=kvZNY_RZb7E&list=PLHMaOPmxHtFo218qLqeQq7iBv9JYZlnyd&index=10&t=0s

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Sonic tier Jupiter. A fun recording.

I really like sonatas 6-9, but the ecstatic ending of the 4th has to be one of my favourite moments in music.

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It is, isn't it? There's an acoustic version too which, aside from the lower audio fidelity, I enjoy even more.

listen to all of scriabin

>non meme
>mozart
>schoenberg
i dunno everyone shits on them
unironically add scarlatti, scriabin and mabye a fireman

>everyone shits on them
Not here they don't. On Schoenberg maybe but not Moz.

at the very least we're divided here on mozart between him being cool and a hack

If anyone thinks Mozart's a hack they can leave right now

easily half of this board deported

>board
We're talking about /classical/ not Yea Forums. Most of the latter's underage and listens to nigger music.

i thought we were talking about Yea Forums ()
but yes you do have a point probably 7/8 deported

Barenboim playing Moonlight Sonata
based or cringe?
youtube.com/watch?v=q5OaSju0qNc

Gesualdo, Petzold, CPE Bach, Pfitzner, Scriabin and Sorabji.

Stockhausen

youtube.com/watch?v=iBKA6sgLnO0
I love listening to interviews with classical musicians.

The interview with Celibidache is the best
Top tier asmr

Eh, he's never terrible nor amazing. His songs without words is one of the best things he's done. This is a bit schmaltzy though even for the moonlight, think I prefer Lupu's more restrained schmaltz in this particular sonata.

ah man this sounds really good. Any more such perfomances you fancy?

The entire HMV Potted Ring.

Friedrich Schorr and Alexander Kipnis.

G minor tastes so good

Also A minor tastes like chocolate
C# minor is very dark, bitter chocolate

>there are autists who unironically think Mozart's a hack

>His songs without words
So not songs then?

hi peoples

First movement of Beethoven 6th Symphony is the best thing he's done change my mind.

hnngggggg

Do we like Elgar?

What's IDAGIO like? Is it worth it?

Stop listening to American composers.

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No.

Nope
Here's John Adams conducting Ives

youtu.be/-Zl8CWShCKc

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>american
>art
pick one

David Bowie is shit.

Only Charles Ives is acceptable.

Ferneyhough
m.youtube.com/watch?v=qxbpF_aW4vU

Hello fellow Yea Forums and /classical/ cross poster

Kipnis

youtube.com/watch?v=Li60qCJh8HY
yes

Do any of you use IDAGIO?

For me?
des Prez
Palestrina
Ockeghem
Tallis
Byrd
Dowland
Gesualdo
Monteverdi

von Biber
Purcell
Buxtehude
Vivaldi
Bach
Handel

CPE Bach
Haydn
Martin Kraus
Mozart
Boccherini
Paisiello
Cherubini
Schubert

Beethoven
Mendelssohn
Rossini
Wagner
Liszt
Mahler
Bruckner
Brahms
Dvorak
Tchaikovsky
Shostakovich

Schoenberg
Berg
Zimmermann
Messiaen
Stockhausen

the most essential names for the Rennaissance/Baroque/Classical/Romantic/Contemporary periods, respectively

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no

>No Gombert
>No Schütz
>No Zelenka
>No Berlioz
>No Strauss
>No Webern

Hmm still a solid list fren

Needs some Berlioz my man.

>no Schumann
>no Chopin

You know Lotus espirit turbo challenge

youtu.be/c10KrI_oVbs

what is the classical sample on the loading screen?
thank you

>broke: Listening to American composers
>woke: Listening to European composers
>bespoke: Taking a walk in a bomb shower and ending up a cripple

Funeral march from Wagner's Götterdämmerung
youtube.com/watch?v=yXonlYzpT-0

>Schubert
>classical

>Beethoven
>romantic

I love ou thanks.

If you like that piece, here's Bruckner's memorial for Wagner, which references, among other pieces by Wagner, Siegfried's funeral march.

If the sound quality here is a turn off for you, you can find more modern recordings, but imo this performance is extraordinary even beyond the role it played in history, the Nazis used it to announce both the defeat at Stalingrad and the death of Hitler. In fact, they broadcast it before announcing Hitler's death - which allowed exiled art historian Ernst Gombrich to realize Hitler was dead before anyone else at the Allied intelligence.

youtu.be/LW_SyrSdRVk

Was everyone else too stupid to work it out?

No, probably not. But he happened to be the fastest in the British Intelligence monitoring the German broadcasts.

>American composers

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>shostakovich
>romantic

>also no scarlatti scriabin or impressionists

rate it still though

Brahms sucked at the whole solo piano thing didnt he

Missed the worst omission.

Only
Got it kinda right. Debussy is easily the most influential composer of the 20th century alongside Schoenberg and Stravinsky.

Not at all, the late piano pieces are utter masterworks and some of the only contrapuntally interesting and innovative music written in the 19th century.

youtu.be/CcFcsKsAiXY

The accusation that his piano textures are opaque and clunky really is a fault of the performers and modern pianos.

Compare this mess (especially the transition from :50)
youtu.be/Abby2S5OSXM

To this lean and driven performance;
youtu.be/eysJ2W1vY20

cringe
youtube.com/watch?v=T_vLupHd6-I

>thinking I forgot Berlioz Schumann or Chopin
lmao

Schumann at least deserves a spot.

Rate please

a.uguu.se/ZhlJlXkWHHLD_stokowski5thbeforeandafter.mp3

youtube.com/watch?v=gQD94Aj6anc

Good job.

Why is Bach so overrated?

Bach's take on Jesus
youtube.com/watch?v=FwWL8Y-qsJg
Palestrina's take on Jesus
youtube.com/watch?v=EuV1JL8EgP0

Bach's take on the Gloria
youtube.com/watch?v=izVzruuk1lc
Monteverdi's take on the Gloria
youtube.com/watch?v=xop5Bnfo4yc

Can we all agree that only people who have never heard sacred music in their lives think that Bach's "sacred" music is good?

Imagine thinking that your opinion on Bach matters.
The verdict has already been returned on him for centuries, you can say whatever you want and it doesn't mean a thing. Stop treating /classical/ like Yea Forums.

To be fair, Bach (being the boomer old timer he was) would have probably agreed with you that Monteverdi and Palestrina were better than him

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I've heard, studied, and written about more sacred music than you and Bach's is as good as anything that's ever been written.

The Palestrina piece is laughably basic, by the way, and I find him incredibly boring as a composer compared to the two generations that preceded him (Ockeghem and Josquin) and contemporaries such as Victoria. Palestrina's fame rests on the pedagogical utility of his music and, later, Romantic legend.

Here's a superior Bach piece in an actually adequate performance.
youtu.be/UN-K2avGLgc

Imagine thinking that your opinion on Palestrina matters.
The verdict has already been returned on him for centuries, you can say whatever you want and it doesn't mean a thing. Stop treating /classical/ like Yea Forums.

Unlikely, since until the 19th century anyone at any time agreed music had been perfected about a generation ago and everything older than that was a naive, if possibly edifying, curiosity unfit for performance.

Based

Except Bach.

>anyone at any time agreed music had been perfected about a generation ago and everything older than that was a naive
Not Bach, he was one of those "born in le wrong generation" kids

Redpill me on Zimmermann.

That's not true. Even where he studies Frescobaldi and Corelli, his musical grammar remains firmly rooted in the 18th century. Even pseudo-motets like the BWV 878 fugue or the Ricercar a 6 are utterly unthinkable in the terms of the generation of Frecobaldi or even Corelli.

Beyond that basic fact, Bach actively sought out the latest music from France and Italy and adapted it into his music. He arranges Pergolesi and Vivaldi, mimics the French organ mass, and even moves towards casting a majority of the preludes in WTC2 in binary form, some with subdominant reprises, anticipating later 18th century sonata forms.

Jew.

That proves nothing.

There is no evidence that Bach performed or directly adapted music from several generations ago. There is, however, significant evidence that he was deeply iinterested in the music of his time and integrated it into his idiom late into his life, as would be expected of any composer.

He was not a man of words. But why assume he was the exception to his peers who actually wrote on music?

>literally every good composer learned piano or violin or some other orchestral instrument as a child
Is there any hope for a guitarfag such as myself? I'm learning violin and piano right now as an adult beginner, but I fear I'm too late.

Berlioz was primarily a guitarist :^)

In all seriousness though, look a Haydn's biography. It'll give you hope.

How can we even compete with this AESTHETIC?

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He was probably much better than I am, I'm a pretty mediocre guitarist. He played woodwinds too I think.
He learned violin and keyboards as a kid though.

People who are into sacred music for the "aesthetic" (read: Latin words and placid vocal polyphony) have a high chance of being autistic tradcucked frogposters.

Here's The Berlioz case

>Music did not feature prominently in the young Berlioz's education. His father gave him basic instruction on the flageolet, and he later took flute and guitar lessons with local teachers. He never studied the piano, and throughout his life played haltingly at best.[6] He later contended that this was an advantage because it "saved me from the tyranny of keyboard habits, so dangerous to thought, and from the lure of conventional harmonies".[14]

We can't

Edgiest fucker you'll find
His Requiem has a recording of Hitler speaking and starts playing Beethoven's 9th only to drown it out with a chorus begging for peace, as if all friendship and joy are gone in the world.
You can't go edgier than that.

>His Requiem has a recording of Hitler speaking and starts playing Beethoven's 9th only to drown it out with a chorus begging for peace, as if all friendship and joy are gone in the world.
LOL

Sounds based to me. Best recording?

Thanks! Probably the hardest "restoration" I've done so far. All the shellac scratches were really wide events that went over music, so it was very difficult to reduce it. A lot of Mengelberg's recordings have similar issues.

>There is no evidence that Bach performed or directly adapted music from several generations ago
m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqLUQElmUE
Whats this then?

Oh and he also eventually killed himself
youtube.com/watch?v=DJNsrBKcT3o
Pic and video related, conducted by Kontarsky in 2008 is a theoretical "best recording" as Kontarsky is very familiar with Zimmermann and the recording "follows the specifications to position the three choirs at different locations in the hall", at least according to wikipedia (it also says it was recorded in 2008, not 2005 as the video description).
Otherwise the one by Gielen from 1995 is pretty good too. The one I linked feels heavier to me though, not sure if it's the audio quality or actual performance that does it for me.
There was another one that was kinda popular (as popular as recording's of Zimmermann's Requiem can get anyways) and I remember it was pretty shit and the chorus was weak but I don't recall who performed it.

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Fake news

No, its an arrangement of Palestrina made by Johann Sebastian "Born in le wrong generation" Bach

OwO

Pfitzner

youtube.com/watch?v=M61nkxop32g

He also thought it was impossible to perform without adding instruments and figured bass to spell out the harmony. One of the few actual starements on music we have by him literally states that such a harmonic foundation is essential to music. QED.

>"bach wasn't influenced by palestrina"
>here's an arrangement of palestrina by bach
>"that don't count"

Dude, acknowledges 16th and 17th century influence. The point was that Bach treats counterpoint and key in a way that makes sense only in advanced figured bass/harmonic thinking. He does not recreate the musical grammar of e.g. Palestrina in his own music. There is no direct adaptation of this musical language.

And even an arrangement had to be modified for performance.

>There is no direct adaptation of this musical language.
No one was claiming that.

>There is no evidence that Bach performed or directly adapted music from several generations ago.

Any good stereo recordings? thanks

It's still one Palestrina arrangement vs. a whole bunch of contemporary Italian arrangements. More significantly, Bach wrote direct responses to those latter pieces, like the Italian concerto, countless arias, and even motets in such concerto form.

There's much more conservative, actually "born in le wrong generation" composers at the time, first and foremost Fux, who actually thought that Palestrina's style was an eternal norm for all music that ought to be revived and kept alive in sacred music.

>implying stereo adds anything to a piano recording

Not nearly as good. But try Rösel for the sonatas and Lupu for the late miniatures.

youtube.com/watch?v=vzRjcunsAuk

I concede that point. It does not, however, make him a particularly backwards-looking composer. There's also a good chance that arrangement was done for Mizler's circle, who had neo-Pythagorean and Fuxian proclivities that Bach does not seem to have shared.

Richter also recorded a few for Eurodisc but it's not quite as good as this (very listenable) mono recording of his Leipzig performance, which also has a great performance of Beethoven 30 and 31

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15th string quartet

>Stereo
No

Try Backhaus instead

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But the Bach pieces are good?
I think you're listening to all that music too

Does Yea Forums go to live orchestras? I do. Should I take my girlfriend on a date? It’s a fancy, upper-class opera house

>hurr listen to mono and sloppy performers
K

Of course I do and of course you should why would you date someone who isn't into that honestly

>SACD
Sounds like double based to me. Gonna download this fucker when I get home.

Finally you get it

Mono hipsters are people who enjoy listening to surface noise more than music.

And that's a good thing

I would literally kill to have 1910-150s performances in modern sound

>not listening to scratchy, noisy STEREO recordings

Schorr in genuine stereo:
a.uguu.se/HUaGBZqfju02_Wolf_Prometheus_part2_Schorr_1932_stereo.ogg

300th reply lole

Is there a more retarded term than “modern classical”? I straight up avoid it when tagging music in my library.

How good is Kegel's Bruckner? Also what is going on with this cover?

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i liked his 5th, but the sound quality kinda sound weird

youtube.com/watch?v=yJpJ8REjvqo

How the fuck do you guys remember piece names like Concerto for Piano, Violin and Harsichord in B Minor, BWN 1488?

by not being retarded

By having a little brain capacity and memory.

Mahler sucks cock.

Mahler sucks your cock*

guitar is such an awkward instrument but it is a harmony instument at the end of the day
as long as you read pic related youll be fine

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I thought he was at least partially based, especially compared to other musicians, but I guess not.

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im not sure how good he was
ive got his 36 original pieces he made as a youth and theyre pretty uninspired
some of the later stuff seems alright though