Anyone else addicted to this shit?

anyone else addicted to this shit?
I dont get withdrawals when I try to quit, but I get intense urges to dose, I tried to leave it at home and went to my gf for 4 days, but on the third day I cracked and took a cab home to dose, when I could have gotten a ride the next day for free

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put on your panties boy

My brother is addicted to this shit. Spends so much money on it. Fuck kratom

what website is the thumbnail from? im tryin to get into kraken

dude yeah I take it daily unfortunately. genrally just when I get home from work I don't drink or smoke but its nice to feel energetic after a long day of w ork. ive been slowly lowering the dose but the hard fact is you just have to stop and deal with the urges it sucks for about 2 weeks then your good, but luckily no withdrawels unless you take a fucking ounce or 2 a day

Im 9 days clean from kratom today. Was on 15g/day for a year.

>I dont get addicted
>Intense urges
>cmon bruh

I love that shit but it makes me fucking constipated as hell. Like I'll buy a 250 g bag eat that stuff and not shit for like a week. It's so worth it though. I won't get withdrawals necessary but it kicks my anxiety into over drive the first two days with out or so.

Can tell me more about kratom? I’m trying to live healthier lifestyle without being hungover or burnt out from weed. Not looking for a weed replacement, just wanna take something that might be able to perk me up a bit when I get home from work. What’s kratom like? What do you dose? Just wanna know your general opinion on it and if it’s worth taking it a few days a week or if it has some recreational value

Dont get into it. Not worth it. Its addicting and has shit withdrawals.

Its not well studied and can have heavy metals embedded in it from processing. Its not regulated at all. Feels great but its no free lunch.

Well that’s a fucking downer. If I made tea out of it would that help with separating the metals you think? I’m retard and have no idea how science works

PROTIP:
dont take it twice a day, and problems werent

Ya that would help.
And fuck reddit but look at their quittingkratom sub if you want the truth about kratom. If you have really strong discipline and can stay off it you can try it.

Tried it once, did nothing for me. Unless I got a bunk sample, I'm guessing that shit is all placebo.

>quittingkratom sub if you want the truth about kratom
now as someone who has done this shit for like 5 years, at doses sometimes exceeding 1oz a day, i have to disagree somewhat

abruptly kicking from high daily doses is not fun (hot/coldflashes, sweaty, runny nose, restless legs, trouble sleeping (for like 3-5 days ime)), but those idiots on there are talking about being in physical w/d for like 3mos and other insane shit.
now i dont know WHAT the fuck they must be taking (id assume some sort of extract), but its definitely easier to kick than straight up dope, and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy easier than kicking subs/methadone
still a useful ally should you end up on the hard shit imo

the only way i can explain some of these horror stories is
1) redditors being faggots
and
2) absolutely NO prior experience with real opiates

Its definitely not placebo. Some of it can be weak though. If you know where to go for good shit it feels the same as hydrocodone imo

>good shit it feels the same as hydrocodone
i concur

Where do you buy this stuff?

Vap shops or smoke shops

I agree with you mostly PAWS. The 3mo withdrawals they talk about are Post Accute Withdrawal Symptoms. I have a ffeling its in their head for the most part. That being said, the longer you tax your opioid receptors for years and years the longer it takes to bounce back mentally.

Oh wow. Legal in all 50 states?!

I spend about $150 a month on it, its cheaper then alcohol because taxes, but still im a poorfag who could put the money to better use

I dont know I found it on DDG image search, check out doublemherbals.com/

I take about 2 grams 4-6 times a day

I never said I wasnt addicted

I use to get constipated from it, but I started the snakediet.com/ to lose weight, and for some re4ason fasting cured my constipation

there a honeymoon period where you get pretty stoned off kratom, but it goes away pretty quick, if you keep your doses low and dont dose everyday, the honeymoon period will probably last longer, I havnt felt any kratom effect for like the last 7 months except pain relief, I just feel compelled to dose

r/quittinkratom is only one side of the story, I dont get any acutes, although im horribly addicted, but the only symptom I get is a super intense urge to dose, my longest quit wasnt very long though just shy of a week, who knows maybe PAWS would kick in if I went longer

Naw buy it online. Smoke shop shit is bunk and waaaay too expensive.

Herbaldom

Socalherbalremedies

“Herbal tea”

Idk to be honest. Here in Michigan they're trying to make it a schedule 2 narcotic but it's super easy to get

How long have you been on it consecutively?

doublemherbals.com/

No some states banned it, and in 2016 the DEA tried to schedule it nationally, but large public outcry and americankratom.org/ lobbying it was saved

is the pain relief like opioids?

about a year

Was wondering because I'm TX so if it's illegal anywhere it'd be here. Thx

I have only tried t3's and tramadol, but I guess its similar to codeine

>doublemherbals.com/
Thanks y'all. Gonna order some now.

Any info on the strains from herbaldom? Can't find anything on the site.

i know all about post acute withdrawal symptom, believe me
still, it shouldnt be that bad
fuck, i only had PAWS from dope for a couple weeks. i just ignored it because my life was WAY fucking better and i didnt give a fuck about sticking myself with a needle anymore

>my longest quit wasnt very long though just shy of a week, who knows maybe PAWS would kick in if I went longer
it will if you keep telling yourself that
PAWS is literally all mind game
just distract yourself and ignore it and it literally wont matter
also, masturbate. itll feel fucking AWESOME when youre coming off of it

t. kicked 40g/day habit once by locking myself in my room and playing porn games for like three days

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Crazy man.... I ordered a year supply for $80. Took it for the year. Stopped didn't have any problems at all.

But I've heard of people getting withdrawl

you probably ordered a kg, Im in Canada and its a little more expensive here, a kilo cost about $150 after tax and shipping, and it only lasted me about a month, maybe a month and a half

I dont really get withdrawals, I just cant seem to stop taking it

>t. pharmaceutical rep

hmmm let's see... i replaced vicodin/butrans, soma, xanax, paxil, adderal/vyvanse, ambien, clonidine - and some other shit i can't think of right now (prescriptions for all btw) - all with kratom. i take +/- 25g/day and spend roughly $385 every 2 months or (i buy if from a holistic nursery/garden here in austin, not some shit tier head shop).

i was on so many prescription drugs i could literally feel myself dying. my liver was swollen and i hadn't taken a dump in like 3 weeks. i'd much rather put a ground-up tree in my body than the shit they put in those pills - most of which aren't even being used for what they were originally created for.

am i physically addicted? yes. will i go through withdrawals if i quit ct? yes. will it be as bad as the oxy/vicodin/butrans withdrawals? fuck no.

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>I take about 2 grams 4-6 times a day
theres your problem
try and take less doses throughout the day
it seems the physical and mental addiction only really gets its hooks in when you dose multiple times a day.
if you can make it a whole day without dosing, that is a much better schedule. ideally it shouldnt be daily either. i did it for years like this, every other day and had absolutely no problems. it only started being one when i got to once a day, and only got serious at twice a day.

kratom has a couple very short acting opiod-like chemicals in it. by dosing it multiple times every day youre arguably doing more damage to your receptors than one who would dose that same amount at once, once per day, because your receptors dont have any downtime from being bombarded (even with a small amount like 2gs) by mitragynine. try and space your doses out a bit more

if you still have problems with that, look up L-DOPA and 5-HTP as both can help restart your brains ability to produce its own neurotransmitters.
and again, if you cant kick 12gs/day, consider stopping entirely

Not sure but got quite a bit for $80. Was pounds of the shit from some wholesaler in China. Took it and would get pretty focused and motivated it. Would chill with random girls, we'd take it and goto the beach and shit. Good times

Relax faggot the person asking me isnt an addict...yet
Yes Kratom is great as a replacement for opiates. We get it.

apples and oranges tho
this kid was taking it to catch a buzz
you were taking it cuz you had no other choice
the situations arent comparable, but you shouldnt sperg out on him either

how the hell does kratom replace ambien, when I first started taking kratom it would actually keep me up at night, then once the effects started fading it does not do anything for my sleep, negative or positive

and since the 6th ive been having horrible insomnia, I wish it helped, I am going try spend like $200 on one of those weighted blankets, even if they dont work Ive heard they are super fun while tripping

Serious question: Anyone whois not a drug addict ever get addicted to this stuff? Took pounds of it, never had any problems. Never tried opioids(even after surgery)

it seems that its more often that non addicts will get the hooks from this stuff
what was your dose schedule like, out of curiosity?

Took it for a year had pounds of the stuff from China. Took tables spoons of it like four times a day. Quit after the country I moved to didn't allow it.

I didnt even know china had kratom, I thought it only comes from indonesia and theres a couple other countries like thailand that has it, but its illegal in thailand

Don't know where it came from, was a wholeseller. Came in huge containers labeled "art dyes"

I assume China though.

I was taking 500 grams of kratom a month for 3 years, and I recently got off it. You gotta have a lot of will power and just do it. The withdrawals only lasted about 2 weeks for me