Checkmate atheists. Check. Fucking. Mate

Checkmate atheists. Check. Fucking. Mate.

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Obviously this is just bait, but I'm going to refute it anyway. The atheist even raises a counter argument that the Christian doesn't address: if something can't come from nothing, how did God come to exist? The Christian argues that something as complex as the universe couldn't exist without some higher being creating it, but by that logic God (who would have to be more complex than the universe itself in order to create it) would in turn need to have been created by an even higher being

>and we conviniently (sic) stood out from the rest of the animals as thinking beings
aren't all animals thinking beings?
and secondly, what relevance does the intelligence of human beings have in this debate at all? Why does it matter that human beings are the smartest animals in this context? Does human intelligence somehow prove god exists? I don't get it.
I do see the merit the "something can not be created from nothing"-argument, and I can agree that the big bang theory seems somewhat far-fetched, but I can not for the life of me understand why human intelligence matters here.

K.I.S.S. user, never say five words when two will do. Don't give a dummy too much to think about.

"Then where did god come from?"

See how easy, concise, elegant that was?
In debate, do everything to not make declaratives. Whenever possible put examination back on a declarative.

Which then means God isn't truly God since there is a higher power than him. Plus where did that higher power come from, and you get an endless loop.

Logic itself dictates that something must come before to prove the logic is sound, something that provides the basis for the line of thought.

so we cannot use logic to determine that God does exist and that he created the universe

we can only use logic to define and redefine the rest of the universe

I just like how they are both arguing about what they belive to be true, from books written by people they've never met, from before they were even born.. lel

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>Checkmate atheists. Check. Fucking. Mate.
So. Let me summarise your bait, as laid out in your image
>"I don't understand how we are here so a god must have done it"
Do II have that about right? Do you see now how poor your bait is? Go read some more and try again when you have a more credible argument.

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You like false equivalences more.