>Neither team have to eat, sleep, drink, procreate, etc
Probably fair to say that it's in the sentiment of this condition that neither side will die of old age.
!!!FUCKING READ THIS FIRST!!!
Christian Green
Landon Nguyen
the question is- state initial conditions- positions and configuration of ants/marines... without this you don;t have enough information
Owen Peterson
You're ignoring the remains of the burnt ants
eventually they'll hinder the ability of the marines to defend themselves properly
they'll literally be burning up their own oxygen, too
eventually the serviceable firing locations (flamethrowers) will become so small that they'll suffocate themselves and die
Ayden Walker
>And that is the right question
Just imagine how large either force would grow over time if certain sects remained at bay for a specific time and the off spring were given sufficient time to reach adulthood and fight the battle themselves
Mason Bennett
>You can't give marines completely freedom of autonomy
They are humans...
>and treat ants as unchangeably uniform
They aren't, other than by their inherent limitation set by OP: they are just ants that march to the marines; also, they only experience ant butts until they meet their fiery death. Ants are not complicated beings. Their apparent 'uniformity' is by evolution-- and OP's universe heavily implies that this will remain the case:
>Ants are regular black ants, their goal is to destroy the Marines, nothing more
>nothing more
People have free will. Even marines. You are acting surprised that marines are people, and ants are inherently limited when compared to humans.
>not to limit things to your personal experience.
You're the one trying to impose your experience of your universe, or your concept of fairness to this equation. OP was pretty clear: marines, who are people, and therefore pretty adaptable vs. ants, that are just ants, who are limited in their ability to adapt, and are set to simply attack the marines. You can't seem to accept that, but that's the case. Your universe, it's quantum oddities, etc. are not part of OP's universe. OP's universe has a flat plane, no features, a bunch of marines, and a fuckton of ants. Regular, human, adaptable marines (or they would not be marines, they'd be braindead zombies with flamethrowers. And regular ants, limited as they are in nature, on a mission to kill some humans. That's it.
>Graham's number is a bit bigger than that. You need to allow for that.
OP stipulated that the ants are just that. Ants. He didn't say 'the ants will evolve!' or 'the marines can only shoot their flamethrowers like braindead idiots'. Seems like he carefully set it up so people like you wouldn't make shitty assumptions. I guess he needs to be clearer with his rules, so there's no bullshit like 'quantum do-hickory' or 'gravitah'. Either way, your repeated assertion that this is a simple numbers game is pretty lame.
Kayden Wright
Jesus Christ. You retards need to read the thread. Here's the condensed version:
>arguments from people that generally understand the concepts and numbers involved, some good, some bad, some funny
>OH MY FUCKIGN GOD!!!!11!11! GRAHAMCRACKER NUMBRE SO BEG THAT YOU MUS BE RETARDE IF YOU THINK AT ALL PAST TEH BIG NUMER!!!1!!!!1!!!!
There have been plenty of arguments that show the possibility of the marines coming on top. In a straight duel, with no mental fatigue, I buy it. Otherwise, probably not. But either side of this debate is better than the non-argument from the Grahamfags.
Let me save you some time. Here's your next argument, so you don't need to post it again:
>YOU FUKCIN STOOPID! GHRAGHAM NUMREB SO VER BEG IT KILS ALL ANTS AN HUMANS, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!1!11!!!!!!1!!11!1!
Jayden Morales
No, that's just the starting conditions. You're assuming they're fixed and static, but humans aren't. That's your bias, not logic.
Jack Murphy
This post is a perfect example of the completely irrational illogic and inability to understand large numbers that's made the last part of the thread so boring.
Noah Rivera
they can eat other ants though. eons of cannibalism and murder fueled ant evolution would create a super ant capable of surviving the flame throwers and it will destroy them all. ants win.