Explain this murrifats

Explain this murrifats.

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because the legal age of consent is 18 not 17 dummy : )

Technically in many states it's 16.

Americans are retarded that's why

Laws are retarded. Literally anyone can make a video fucking a 14 year old, title the video “18 year old creampied” and everything is still good. Pretty sure half of the Asian teen exploited videos are not legal.

how hard is it to wait 12 months you horny fuck

Pedifelia is clinically defined as below 13. Laws state 18. Honestly having sex from 15 seems normal. It's old katholic values combined with laws that cause this retardation.

>Muh protect the children

Think about flex time. You're 15 minutes late for work, so you stay an extra 15. Now your an hour late, so you stay an extra hour. Before you know it, you're 3 to 5 hours late and basicly making your own schedule.
So, there's a mature 17 year old kid. She should be ok to get with right? It's close enough. So, 17 is ok now. What about that 15 year old? 17 is ok, and 15 is only 2 years off. 15 is ok now? Ok... Becouse that 13 year old is 2 years younger, and it was ok before.
Without strict rules nothing really matters anymore.

If the grass is green, play ball

I personally think that 14 would be good as an age of consent. To me, this is a perfectly reasonable position. Unfortunately, you can't even say something like that to normies without them screaming PEDOOOO and losing their shit.

There is this rule that you divide your current age by half, then add 7 is the cut off. Anything below that number is a no go for you. Of course, it’s just a guideline.

Also, most states (not the religious, retarded ones) have implemented a Romeo and Juliet law that a 16 year old can date an 18 year old, 17 can date an 18, etc. and not get fucked by the law. If the couple is close to each others’ age then it’s good.

That's stupid
Y'all just want to take advantage of kids before they know better

18 is the age of consent in only 10 states .all the rest are 16 & 17. if you to go Lower than that go to mexico.

slippery slope fallacy

Yeah but CP is images/videos of anyone under 18

All 14 year olds are shit, and too immature. Yeah, pussy is only good if they’re hygienic. Source: dated a few people around my age when I’m 14.

Of course, you can acting like her dad while also fucking her in the ass at night. Just don’t get caught.

Yeah but that doesn't make it legal.

explain this. she's 23 years old.

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>before they know better
Explain what you mean by this.

They need to set an age otherwise pedophiles will be able to weasel their way out of anything, some girls are mature enough by 15, some may not be until 20.

Be safe and set a hard rule so there's no ambiguity.

Fucked a 17 year old when I was 26, which is legal in the state of Iowa.

Whatever.

cool man

>mature enough
Explain what you mean by this.

That is because there are no state laws on the subject, only the federal law. A state could set a lower age for pornography if they wanted to.

you people have been conditioned by films to think 28 year old chicks are 16. you get nervous when you see 18 year olds playing 15 year olds.

this is what happens when you finish high school and then 6-10 years later you completely forgot what 17 year old girls look like. i returned to college at 31 and i was reminded what 18 year old girls look like. now, i've gotten some degrees, getting some more and at a big university and you'd be very confused by 18-19 year old sorority girls that would look 15 to you. i can totally believe this chick is 23.

just search sororities. they're all attention whores with facebook and instagram pages. look at what real 18 year old girls look like. hot ones showing off in bikinis and party attire.

>Explain this murrifats.
Probably has to do with the schools being integrated

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the line must be drawn somewhere

Mental maturity is a thing, most people don't reach it until their early 20's.

Same reason people need to be over a certain age to vote and drink.

A 14 year old may be easily manipulated into doing something she doesn't want to do on false pretenses and an older mentally ill man's lies.

little girl, i finished high school 38 years ago.

Truth. 14 is not old enough to make rational decisions. There's no experience to draw from, no life lessons to use as guidelines for stuff. Anyone who's trying to justify fucking a 14 year old is a god damned animal.

That looks so good, she should be illegal

>A 14 year old may be easily manipulated into doing something she doesn't want to do
Same goes for adult women. I don't see what that has to do with it. If that is truely your criteria, then it shouldn't be legal to have sex at all.

This may have changed with diet or whatever but around 15 your body is likely to be developed enough for (vaginal)sex.

Completed high school graduation.
18 years of experience with nonsexual male attention.
Legally able to sue someone without parental engagement.
Legally able to sign a contract and become married.
Not only is the mind more mature at 18 years of age but legal responsibility is also independent.
Places with lower age of consent usually have a lower expectation of mental maturity.
Aka. Hillbillys do not expect themselves to read beyond a 2nd grade education.

why not wait till age fucking 25 you retard.
trial and error, we need to experience to learn and gain mental maturity.
if we're just waiting for the brain to be fully developed to make rational decisions then 25 would be the age. it'd be paradoxical cause the retarded 25 y.o wouldn't know what the fuck is going on

>Not only is the mind more mature at 18 years
It's also more mature at 19 than it is at 18. Why not increase the age to 19? While we are at it, the mind is more mature at 20 than it is at 19. Why not increase it to 20? etc...

The law is black and white when it comes to age or numbers. There is no inbetween.

Just think like a phisic problem

The time goes until the last Second with 17 and 18. After that time, ALL is 18.

So she is really older now, and the rights are based on something. Just live with that

So I dated a 17 yo when I was 18 and in my state its cool as long as the parents are fine with it.

It's not america, it's women.

Women are the only ones hysterical about age and consent because they want monopoly on sex, and they always seek ways to control men. Since most men are stupid and will do everything to please women, they just roll with anything women say, mainly because they're terrified of being deemed "unworthy" by women.

The only reason why any of these hysterical and insane laws about consent exist is because women want to control who men are allowed to fuck. They understand their eggs are drying out, and their shelf-life expires VERY quickly, so they will literally go out of their way to stop men from seeking younger women to the best to their ability. If allowed to run freely, feminism would most likely try to bump the age of consent to 25 at least, since they know men simply don't pay any attention to women older than 30.

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More reasons were given than mental maturity.
The parents are no longer legally responsible for the decisions of the 18 year old. Compulsory Education has ended by 18 years old.

>why not wait till age fucking 25 you retard
Most people do not live in their parents basements past 18, many less after 30.

Not sure if you're talking fucking age or nude age here. You're vague like your commie welfare system.

Sorry, I just think that MAYBE a 14-year-old can make the simple decision (and I think it is a far simpler decision than people make it out to be) on whether they want to ride the D-train or not. I'm not talking about "manipulation" or whatever. If you were to proposition a 14-year-old girl and she was down for it, why can't you fuck her? Or if she had a crush on you, and came to you wanting to try this "sex" thing she's heard about, why can't you fuck her? As long as you're not like crazy rough and shit, I don't see a problem. If they were really ready for it, great! But if the worst thing that ever happens to somebody is that they found out what it's like to get some dick before they were truly ready, then they're still doing pretty good!

People like y'all act like having sex with a 14-year-old is the end of the goddamn world, and I just don't understand that.

14 is fine, anything older is just shrieking hysteria.

Don't fall for the jewish propaganda. Live your life and be happy.

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>14-year-old can make the simple decision
>simple decision
That has potential life altering ramifications.
Ur a pedo.

based and redpilled.

you may need another look at who makes laws in America

you're wrong. nice try though.

>Don't fall for the jewish propaganda.
Early-teen marriage was possible in Judaism. Babylonian rabbis encouraged early marriage as a means of legally channeling the male libido.[74] According to the Talmud, a father is commanded not to marry his daughter to anyone until she grows up and says, "I want this one".[75] A marriage that takes place without the consent of the girl is not an effective legal marriage.

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in new jersey, a 14 year old boy can marry a 13 year old girl if the parents approve.

Maybe? As long as safe sex is practiced/contraceptives are used, I fail to see an issue.

>Ur a pedo
Uh, no, actually I'm not. I suggest you look up the clinical definition of pedophilia.

>if the parents approve
yes

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>I fail to see an issue.

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fags actually trying to justify being attracted to minors

go to a psych ward and ask for a penectomy

the lines gotta be somewhere, pedo, and it aint gonna be before puberty

nothing wrong with being attracted to other people, regardless of who they are.

don't fall for the hysterical bullshit, and stay awesome

stop worrying about non-sensical garbage from freaks who want to control your life and dictate what are you allowed to think.

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Nothing wrong with dating that, bro.

Ignore the retards, and enjoy your life while you still can.

haha you live in iowa

yep

for a multitude of reasons, I think the global AoC should be 16. I don't believe in this bullshit arbitrary constriction of 18 because it can be exploited for hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance as shown in OP's pic; 18 is just fucking dumb, if you wanna glorify women's sexual freedom, let her make those decisions when she's 16 so she has more time to either learn from her mistakes and get with a beta husband earlier or don't glorify it at all
>she's only 16 and if she has a nuclear family like she should, she can still attend school while her mother watches the kid
>there will be a decrease of birth defects and autism that has skyrocketed from women having kids in their mid to late 30s
>16 is old enough to make the conscious decision whether or not to have sex
>16 is the prime age for boys and girls sexually

Pedofag logic

>18 isn't that much older than 17
>17 isn't that much older than 16
>16 isn't that much older than 15
>15 isn't that much older than 14
>14 isn't that much older than 13
>13 isn't that much older than 12
>12 isn't that much older than 11
>11 isn't that much older than 10
>10 isn't that much older than 9
>9 isn't that much older than 8
>8 isn't that much older than 7
>7 isn't that much older than 6
>6 isn't that much older than 5
>5 isn't that much older than 4
>4 isn't that much older than 3
>3 isn't that much older than 2
>2 isn't that much older than 1

>Therefore 18 isn't that much older than 1, so it's fine

14 is fine.

Ignore all the retards who say otherwise.s

>picture
Sweden has an age of consent of 15. Checkmate'd yourself nerd.

greenland is 14.

The fact that you have this pic at the ready is CREEPY.

nice pic bro, saved.

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They have to draw a line somewhere faggot, everything is arbitrary if you pick at it

14 year olds get horny too. Maybe they just want dick. Why is that a bad think if i meet a horn ee young sloot. Kys

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I don't believe this pictures claim.

When i was in jr high there were girls sucking dick left and right, what difference does it make if she sucked off a 20 something year old vs someone her own age. Shut up bitch

That's not the same, nobody cares about Asian girls; half of them get fucked by family anyway.

>land of the free
>Not able to legally fuck a 16 yo Qt

Cuckmerica

That half your age plus 7 can fuck right off.

I lost my best friend because of that shit.

The only physical contact we had were goodbye hugs.

You could see the look in everyone's faces though. "That poor girl." "He just wants to fuck her."

We just clicked.

We laughed together. We played together like kids in gradeschool. We understood each other.

We've agreed not to see each other anymore.

Too much bullshit from everyone else.

We wouldn't be socially acceptable for a very long time.

I'm 39, she's 20.

I wouldn't have just died for her, I would've live for her.

Our world has decided otherwise.

We weren't even "people" together. We were just two beings being together.

Only the stares of others could break us from what we shared.

and stare you all did. full of misunderstanding and jealousy of something you will never have.

Our world best produce a man worthy of her interest or our world can fuck right off!

Some of you would easily take advantage of something like what we shared.

You know if you're the type.

One day my soul and yours will have a reckoning.

THIS. Of course a girl doesn't magically get endowed with special maturity at the stroke of midnight on her 18th birthday. Yeah, there are some 16 year olds more mature than some 19-year-olds. But in a functional society, you have to have a set line. Slippery Slope isn't always a fallacy, and the Socratic process works both ways. You ask us why is 18 okay but not 17? Well then I could ask why is 17 okay but not 16? And so on?

“Normies” lol

If she's off the clock, she's ready for cock

technically you diddle kids

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Maybe this is all true. Maybe. But fuck me it reads like the worst of the worst cringelord fantasy post.

>Only the stares of others could break us from what we shared.

Ugh. This is not what a well-adjusted 39 year old sounds like.

My duuuuuuuuude. Get some therapy from a licensed professional. This is the most neck beard shit I’ve seen ALL NIGHT.

You know that people can get serious mindfuck after, fuck?

happy birthday champ! hope you are eating well

Live my life as me, you who know so much.

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My therapist only question was "What would you do if she said she loved you."

I replied, "I would do what anyone in love does -my best."

epic gamer rise up moment

Read your posts as me, you who writes so painfully.

Maybe you should check what the picture is actually telling you instead of assuming what it means (Teenage birth rate)

And then my therapist clapped, and I stood up and left, and people cheered for me and gave me high fives left and right.

One day you will love.

May your world mock it.

arbitrary lines need to exist in order to protect people as a whole. It's kind of like the whole abortion issue. We can't really say when something becomes a 'human life' but drawing that line early protects people to ensure they aren't killed. Even if the difference is a few days, a few cells, etc.

In the case of the age of majority the intention (that we seem to have stopped speaking about) is that under 18, you're safe. You may look and feel like an adult and be virtually no differnet, but that arbitrary line is there for you to prepare yourself, and once you cross that line you're on your own in the world, your chocies are your own.

>laws are retarded
>the rules of society i dont want to follow are dumb and shouldnt be around
>FTFY

expose meee

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>As an inteligent being and human you should have restraint, and realize 18 is the law, not 17.

In reality there is zero difference - but as a cultured slave of society, you must demonstrate there is.

>Spot the faggot

>Spot the law following shill

Girl on the left is actually in her early twenties, a lot taller (by azn standards) than her loli-like features would suggest. But yeah, the girl on the right looks like some k-poop sloot to me, sincerely doubt she's actually twelve.

Would bang.

actually no.

He looked at me gravely and didn't speak a word.

He's a flaming faggot tho, so I'm sure he's well acquainted with controversial relationships. Idk, he Might be straight, but I highly doubt it.

Either way.

Fuck all you real pedophiles ruining everything so much as a hello for the rest of us.

Yeah user cause we live in a civilized society i like the benefits of said civilized society, you wanna fuck teenagers? Buy an island make it your own nation with its own laws.

...

>you wanna fuck teenagers?
Who doesnt

Lets all move to Australia!

Most 14 year olds still have a hard time with consequences of thier actions, "but wait shes real mature user." No she seems that way because youre a manchild

I dont teenagers are dumb and play games. Or did you not date in highschool

the fuck is going on in greenland

Sorta kinda. If the person under 18 presses charges, the judge will uphold federal consent laws. Also even if its consensual, they have to declared independent or their parents can still press charges if they want

So why 18 when most of the country operates on a 16 year old age of consent?

You said fuck, not hang out and socialize with.

It's funny because this is what he tells the barista when she tells him they're all out of almond milk for his latte.

Wow, I've never managed to see a neck beard through writing before, but this did it. You are the neckiest neck beard to ever neck beards. Holy shit.

>Protip: Fuck all the 15 year olds whilst you can coz one day you'll wake up and be 40 - and all the pussy you'll ever get will be 40 year old pussy from then on.

Savor the flavor/moment.

>Gold advice.

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I cuntsented when I was 2-3, it was pretty fun and my fondest early memory.

Same rules apply user

Lies

I think about a lot of the topics that have been mentioned in this thread quite often.
1st.
When is it okay to be sexually attracted to an UA girl?
Personally I don't think age matters if they have an "older look" and a "mature body."
a 16 year old girl that works for me has the most insane tight body imaginable. another one of my 16 year olds has an incredibly thick/fat ass on a skinny frame. The bodies are fucking sexy. But they still have young faces. So I'm not attracted to their face. I love their bodies though.
Meanwhile, my 19yo girlfriend when I was 22, was my height (5'10) and barely had a curve on her body. But I KNOW a 13year old girl that is also my height, and has an unreal hourglass shape. Very phat ass, bigger than double d's but still skinny. Her body is perfection.To top it off. She had the face of a very gorgeous 18/19/20 year old. The only reason I would never persue this girl is the law. But I am stunned by how attractive she is. I see nothing personally wrong with this

I'll play the devil advocate here.

You are claiming that girls around 14 shouldn't have sex because they can't make that decision rationally and there will be consequences, yet our society puts a huge pressure on teenagers regarding what school to choose, what carrier should you pursue. Majority of these young people don't know what to do with their lives but they are forced to wait for it... Make a decision which has long-term consequences for the rest of their lives.

And this is fine, isn't it? I'm not a pedo, I don't even like children but quit the bullshit that you are all anti-pedo for the sake of children.

No, you don't give a damn shit about children and you just need to have a nice sounding excuse. Muh children.

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its 16 in many states dumbass

the people who make the laws think everybody follows them.its like gun control,although.you probably think banning guns solves the issue because your a retarded eurotrash or something

What are you? 8?
Of course laws are dumb.
They are made by normies for normies.

Federal law > State law
That's how it works

You goota hang out and socialize to fuck

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2nd. I genuinely believe (as a mega liberal) that the age of consent will be lowered with 20 years.
I feel society is pushing sex into the minds of kids younger and younger. My kids at work actively and openly talk about porn/masturbating/sex. One girl told me how she took a golden shower from her boyfriend. One guy said his girlfriend loves facials. Now, its kinda BEEN a thing for younger teens to have sex. But even though Im just a bit older then him, we didn't talk about this shit at ALL this openly.
Sex is something that they know about, are open about, and enjoy earlier than they did even 5-10 years ago.
Maybe its movies/tv/social media. I think it's being forced into them. But I think its a real thing.

They don't care. They never do. They just tell you they love you and you're the most important thing to them, and because you're 14 you come to believe them. Then after they get what they want, they leave

>be ameritard
>muh freedum
>muh god given rights
>muh an arbitrary number dictates who I can fuck based on religious Puritanism

Free-Dum

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>muh freedom

more like

>muh feelings are more important then muh freedom

>one day you'll wake up and be 40 - and all the pussy you'll ever get will be 40 year old pussy from then on.

Kek, I'm 36 and my wife is 26. At worst I'll still be able to get 30 year old pussy.

>not realizing that everyone has for the most part an "arbitrary" number aside from sheep fuckers

Anyone can get a mind fuck from anything, why not just illegalize life?

>801822253

>801822404

May you live. May you find every happiness within the limits of the judgments of your peers.

Dunno who youre replying too, but i honestly think we need to go back to kids being kids. Let them play socialize have fun, senior in highschool is when you really should be lookin at all that stuff anyway and in most cases youre 17 or 18 anyway and the whole argument is moot at that time

So you’re saying that those sheepfucking hill dwellers enjoy more freedom than Ameritards.

That must be why you’re so intent on bombing them

3rd
I think about how often we think about lolis posted on here and how crazy it is and we love the fantasy, but banking off what I just said. There are real life lolis.
Here's a few examples of things I know about
I knew a girl (very long story) that started fucking her neighbor when she was 12/13 (I got my first blowjob at 13, but I can't remember if she was older or younger than me, and she revealed this to me when I proudly told her about my conquest). She said she had known him for years. Was attracted to him and had a crush on him since she was 6, and figured sex was thing she could offer to get him to notice her. She seduced him (which took time/planning/and risky outfits), fucked him, they both enjoyed it, and made it a regular thing. I think she said, two days a week, he would work from home. Those two days she would go over and fuck him. We are in our early 20's. They still fuck to this day.
Next. I knew a freshman girl when I was a junior that had a cam show. She was 14. I found videos of her on her phone of her fucking a dog. Called her out on it. She informed me of her show on some crazy darkweb site. I watched it a few times but she made crazy money from it. btw. this girl was like. 4'8/4'9. Didn't look a day over 12/13. She was a kid. But she would masturbate on camera, stick things in her ass. And blow and fuck her dog on camera. It was crazy. She told me no one set it up. She had been fucking her dog for years. Figured she could make money off of it.

>found the "anarchist" that claims life would be better without laws
Miss me with that gay shit user

Not at all, im saying that everyone in a civilized society has some sort of number attaches

At 40 it’s ridiculously easy to squeeze a 20-something. Because all the Male 20-something are try hard faggots, where as the 40 yos have the ‘daddy/control me’ vibe going on

of course the soy drinking pussies wouldnt be able to survive without laws.anarchy is what seperates the boys from the men

Attached* fuck phoneposting sometimes

>he says as he tips his fedora polishing is new katana he bought with his GBP
Seriously dude miss me with that bait

Yes.
For all their talk, Ameritards just want a safe space to hide in from the real world

May you continue to type and talk like this your life entire, and to take all things with the seriousness of a eulogy, to gain nothing from self reflection, and to one day pass from this world without ever having been aware of who you were.

That really turned me on. Did she do I straight up play with my gf doo doo to nut stuff?

Right
And you just accept it unquestioningly because you lack free will

Spin it! Spin that banjo hat!

>the "real world"
Which one? The one where youre typing that on a computer or phone? In ypur house with things like running water? Electricity? Central heating and air? Or your mad max fantasy that you couldnt survive in?

No free will is not something i lack. Its wanting to enjoy the luxuries of society granted to me by obeying the law. If you dont like the laws around you go somewhere that fits more into what youre lookin for

What kind of neckbeard are you?
>I wouldn't have just died for her, I would've live for her.
Fucking pussy shit here. I would never live for any woman as i am more important then a woman. If anything the woman is jumping on my ride i am not jumping on hers.
>Only the stares of others could break us from what we shared.
Oh sweet Jesus this is terrible.
>One day my soul and yours will have a reckoning.
Fuck this

You actually do. Cause A can only cause effect A, not effect B. And the Universe is a series of causes and effects. The first cause determined every other cause down the line.And you didn't determine the first determination.

Sorry, I'm probably too smart for you, huh? Or maybe feeling trumps reason all of a sudden.

You think 18 is OK? They won't be happy until the AoC is 25 to 30.

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Prove you have free will.

Perform an action of your own volition, not dictated by your pre-existing state.

Pro-tip - you cant

>cause effect A i have sex with a 14 year old
>cause effect B i get gangraped by tyrone Jamal Jesus julio and juan

Too smart, right user youre so right thats why i told you to change something about it

Finally I use me as an example.
Ill make this long story fit in one shorter post.
I was 11/12 when I started getting into shit. I read sex stories everrrry night on my psp.
Anyways.
I figured, because the girls in the stories would lose their mind at how good dick was, that, even though I was straight, it was better to be fucked, then to fuck. And the best dick you could get was attached to, black men, old men and dogs.
Now I really hated the idea of older men fucking younger folk like me, but the idea of kids my age wanting to get fucked, and would be/could be willingly fucked and enjoy it turned me on like crazy. I browsed chat services, sports forums, talked to a few guys, sent videos, almost met up with some guys when I was 11/12. I calmly moved away from these fetishes, and when I was 15 and single they came back.
I met up with a black man in his 40s. Who let me suck his dick, and fucked me once with a condom. After he came on my face he had me suck him hard again and while waiting he showed me a video of him fucking a 12 year old girl and told me "when you're black. bitches will come looking for you. They want to fuck you, even at 12. I made this girl walk across town to take this black dick." He explained that he had fucked her 4 times and talks to her every day. Apparently she did it the first time after letting her emotions control her, and had a huge desire to get fucked by a black man.
She didn't like it how she thought she would, but he convinced her to try it again and she liked it more the second time. Now she loves it.
12 years old. loves BBC.

My point is.
Lolis are real. The love sucking cock. They want cocks in their pussies (even in some cases, their assholes). They want cum. They will seek out cocks. They just don't want YOUR cocks.

Effect B is caused by Ameritard prison system. Nothing to do with cause A

Typical Ameritard faggot, doesn’t understand basic logic or cause and effect

Thats the arguement of free will you can choose to do an action or not. If i was told not to run my head into the wall i could still do it but the arguement now is, did i do it just to prove a point?

old ugly women mad that younger pretty women are more desirable, seems every post in them SS was a woman by their username, kek

excuse me what?

Here in the UK it's 16...

>cause A do not follow the laws of the land you live in
>well that totally doesnt prove my point user youre a retard

Not a fallacy in this case

Cause b doesn’t follow the laws of the land either you retarded cheese eating faggot.
Rape is illegal. Being raped in prison is not a legal part of the punishment.
And it’s a quirk of the American justice system...because America is a fucked up country

Not who you're replying to, but I can't resist:

You do not have supernaturally free will, true. You cannot make a decision unbound by the physical laws of the universe. But this is arguably not a meaningful limitation. You do not exist separately from the universe. You are not "imprisoned" by it, because you are it. You are your pre-existing state.

Thhe US gov' is the one i have seen them take there stat laws taken so seriously. I hahve seen people be indictted (that were 18 years old) for fucking a 16 year old a monthh before her birthday. since she couldnt "consent" to the sex. His lawyers got him out of it thankfullyy but the US definitly need to take a more liberal european stance on laws like thhat.

(sorry for poor grammar my keys are broke from shitposting to muchh)

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>foucusing on the rape and not the part of just being in prison
Now split hairs all you want about that dont care but break a law of the land get punished

>801823358
And this was Exactly her problem
>let them play

She never really got to. She was the oldest of seven from a family that she didn't speak much of other than they moved a lot.

I've already had kids.
I knew better than to burden them with more than being kids, in spite of my many failures as a parent.

I accepted her childishness for what it was in exchange for her acceptance of my own brokenness and understanding with her.

(Think of a platonic ddlg type thing. Highly based on trust for the both of us. Only with little actual dominance from me and more wisdom than a girl might possess.)

She'll be a good woman one day. She's already far less the basic bitch than she claimed to be, otherwise she would've never taken the time to know me.

My only regret is that we may never know each other as we once did, but if she's better for that then so be it.

In the mean time, I miss my friend.

>801823720

I'm very well aware of my own brokenness.
If two broken ppl could be friends for a while to help one another's brokenness, then whose to complain?

I miss her acceptance more than anything.

I hope she may find more encouragement to better herself from one who will not be judged so harshly by her peers.

My biggest fear from the moment we spoke was that I might fuk her up in some way.

I hope that I haven't.

I hope she lives well.

The thing that is most harmful for teenage girls is getting pregnant, so why don't we say men with vasectomies can fuck 13 year olds? That harm potential is removed, so why not, if the girl consents.

Or maybe we could have a test for maturity, so teens could pass the test and get a fuck license? With a learner's permit, you can only have oral sex, and you have to take a sex ed class to get a learner's permit. Really, why not make it more like driver's licenses?

You do know you can click on a post number right?

$10 says this guy is using Internet Explorer.

Er, for clarity, this was talking to *about* this guy

I knew what you meant user

Cause its not that simple user. STDs pregnancy, safety are all things that most kids dont understand.
>put them in a class user
And like most kids fucking listen were you not fuckin 12 13 or 14? Like you listened in class all the god damm time theyre kids they dont get it and wont till theyre more mature

You're so dumb you think change proves free will? You're also probably so dumb you think you're smart.

Imagine I build a machine that looks exactly like someone you know. The machine is programmable to do certain things. It absolutely does not have free will. You see the machine and the person you know in the same room. You cannot tell which is free or not (even though it's neither) because presumed decision only prove that the decision was made not that the agent making it was free.

Look at genes. Genes build the brain. One kind of brain gives you one set of decisions, another gives you a different set of decisions. You don't control any of your genes of either your parents sperm or egg.

The environment also shapes who we are. And I will say you have control in the sense of maybe you can decide to go to a certain movie, but you have no idea what comes of that action. And practically everything else is out of your control.

Facts don't care about your retard ass feelings.

I understood safety when I was very young. STDs are not hard to grasp either. Neither is pregnancy, I understood that when I was in kindergarten.
Maybe you just love kids too much.

Like seriously, you guys must be my hallucinations because you are super clusters (that's a very big grouping of galaxies) fr from being sane with this shit.

But in that decison of choosing to go see that movie or not is a part of free will. Now you are correct i have no control over any of the actions set over after that decison but that decison in of its self is free will by a technical definition

What was your level of understanding? Im curious

They are not mature, except some are. Lots of women are not mature by 20! So why not have a psychological test? Then you KNOW they are mature enough.

I think you're redefining libertarian freewill. You don't have it. And neither do I. But do go further in depth, I am intrigued.

I knew that if I had sex I could catch a disease like AIDS or Herpes or Gonnorea. I knew that if I fucked someone without a condom I would likely get them pregnant. I knew to not eat shit or fuck without a condom for fear of disease or pregnancy.

And also, my sex ed class was utter shit. They didn't even talk about rim jobs because this fucked up country is so goddamned Christ cock sucking.

the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion. So in the instance of going to a movie i have free will

I knew close to everything I know now. Now I just know about niche fetishes. Do you really think most people belonging to these fetishes are safe with it? We obviously must make it illegal..

It’s if there’s grass on the field play ball (:

You don't understand there just is constraint of necessity and fate. I mean you can't phase through walls so you're not even half free in that respect. The environment directly controls your actions, you just aren't free.

Some are dangerous but between two consenting adults it matters not

Why all of a sudden? I fail to understand. Convince me of this.

>You don't understand there just is constraint of necessity and fate. I mean you can't phase through walls so you're not even half free in that respect. The environment directly controls your actions, you just aren't free.

Its not all of a sudden. I'll pick on extreme fetishes. Choking is dangerous

Not the user you responded to, but what if it's a wait of 2 1/2 hours? Like, her 18th birthday's tomorrow but she's leaving the country for good right before then & this is your last chance to get your wick dipped? Is there REALLY a substantial difference in maturity between 17yrs 364 days and 21.5 hours vs 18 yrs?

Not the guy you're responding to but
>14-year-old can make the simple decision
>simple decision
>That has potential life altering ramifications.
>potential

Every time I get into my car to go to work, I have the potential to get t-boned by an 18wheeler. Every time I cook pork loin, I have the potential to get trichinosis poisoning because, in spite of having cooked it properly, the virus survived & wound up fuckin' my shit up. Every time I beat my dick, I have the potential to shoot myself in the fuckin' eyeball.

NONE of those things has ever happened to me (so far), but the potential has, is and always will be there.

Back to the original point, if a 14yo & a 17yo decide to fuck, nobody's gonna say a damn word. Unfortunately for you & your delusional world where girls only sprout tits & hair on their cunts the second they turn 18, there are a LOT of 14yos that are horny & wanna have sex. Other than puritan morality & wanting to regulate other people's sex lives (because you're afraid of what you look like naked), why should it matter how old the participants are when sex is involved? If two 6yos are "playing doctor" and they get discovered, are we gonna call the cops & press charges against the kids? Against the parents of the kids?

The question is not "where do you draw the line". The question is "why is there a line in the first goddamn place"? The only time the gov't should be getting involved in the sex lives of minors is if a pregnancy is involved. Not for STDs, not for nasty rumors, nothing.

inb4
>derp derp europeedo

apparently they have a >5% birth rate for girls aged 15-19. i mean there aren't that many, so it only takes a few.

Thatast part you quoted wasnt me

That's pussy normie shit.

Still dangerous user

The federal age is 18 and federal law supersedes state law (we literally fought a whole civil war to establish this) so technically you fuck kids faggot.

So why 18?

Had to draw a universally identifiable line somewhere. Age is a pretty easy one. Too bad it asks people to trust what someone says their age is (demanding proof will remove any chance of you getting laid lol even if the person is legal). It's a flawed system but it's easy to understand.

because that's the age that was chosen.
you can either deal with it, or live somewhere that has a lower age.
or you can jsut keep arguing about it on fucking Yea Forums like retards, because that's SURELY going to fix the problem...

Except no it doesn't, because weed.

No, why was it chosen, retard. You should seriously consider not talking anymore.

Local cops cant arreat you. Federal agents can

Because 'Murrika is the land of puritans.

"All men are created equal"
>except for women, niggers & Indians
"Life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness"
>except if someone else is offended by your happiness, no matter how small the effect on them may be
>except if you're not the upper 1%, in which case, welcome to the wonderful world of the "working poor" where you'll enjoy a $8 minimum wage against living expenses topping off around $1,600/mo
>except if you like sex & alcohol, because they government strictly regulates and heavily taxes both
>except if you don't want to get married or have children, which the government strongly supports in the form of tax write-offs
>except if you don't go to church, which again the government strongly supports in the form of tax exemption, to say nothing of the stigmatizing the community around you subjects you to, especially the ignoramuses who claim "freedom of religion" does not include freedom FROM religion (protip: it does)

Yeah, America. We're a real smorgasbord of fuckin' freedom here.

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>You should seriously consider not talking anymore.
and like everyone on Yea Forums, we always do what we _should_, right?
please...

people on Yea Forums are a lot more triggered than they should be (or shouldn't be at all)

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Oh wow, I bet all your friends are jealous of the cock you suck

Fuck Christeys.

Not as jealous as the ones over how much you take up your ass.

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Go to enough psychologist user youll find one that agrees with you. Part of the field and why its seem as one of the softer sciences

How did you come up with this bullshit about federal age of consent laws? The states decide the age of consent, and you're both full of shit. Federal laws don't decide the domestic age of consent at all.

In most states the age of consent is 16. Like, why do people literally make up things in order try to deny this?

All of your points can be refuted with one thing
>its the law
Now you can break the law and in the case of the states romeo amd juliet laws do exist but if its 18 and 14 doesnt matter its against the law 18 16 no one will bat an eye minus some parents. Now tell me where in your world are you ok with a 14 year old fucking a 30 year old

Oh shit, just lost it
>>doo doo to nut stuff

Just like with circumcision, has nothing to do with the Puritans or Christianity.
When the country was full blown fundie Christian almost nobody was circumcised and you could marry your 15 year old cousin.

Such situations are identified as establishing a federal age of sexual consent. For details, see the background report, Age Analysis of Recent US Sex Laws.

The analysis identified three such situations. In all three cases, the federal age of consent established is 18.

Cross-border travel for sex. The PROTECT Act, §105(a)(b), establishes an age of consent of 18 for travel into or out of the country or between states for the purpose of a sexual encounter. If a person lives in a state where the age of sexual consent is, for example, 16 and is dating a 16- or 17-year-old in another state where the age of consent is also 16, that would violate this federal law, even though any particular activity the two people may engage in would be legal in both their states. The state will not charge you but FEDERALLY you can be charged and are breaking the law

Now chances are you're not even in the thread anymore but as a law the federal age of consent is 18. States can govern themselves to a point but as stated federal laws can and do triumph over state laws

I feel like youre gonna say.
>its da jooz fault

Germany AoC is 14.

Got me there cant do anything about that