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lol retard global warming doesnt exist cus its cold outside retard lol
Post more pictures like that
I hate modern liberals probably more than you, but global warming isn't a liberal issue. It's an "if we can't stop it humans will, necessarily, go extinct" issue.
Btw increased gun ownership reduces crime and single payer healthcare is the best way to handle national health.
>We're killing the planet for profit.
holy fuck were you willingly brainwashed or are you just that gullible?
humanity has little effect on the climate
whether it's causing to warm or keeping it from warming
there is nothing we can do about it
no amount of pollution control will help
im actually brainwashed and i want them to brainwash you too
>We might not win
>so we should just give up
You sound like such a failure lol
it should be everyone's concern, not just liberals or idk
Being concerned with climate change is fine because this will eventually lead us to take full control of the weather and the planet. A K1 civilization.
Just sweeping it under the rug and telling ourselves it's "nothing" and "we can't do anything about it" is just so foolish on a level that is actually hindering the advancement of humans as a species.
How did the earth approaching its demise get turned into /pol/ faggotry? This isn't a political issue
We're so fucking fucked I can't fucking fathom it. I honestly have a revolver with one bullet in desk drawer so whenever I hear that it's officially over I can kill myself then and there.
So you are saying the problem will eventually fix itself.
humans will go extinct at some point anyways... fuck the fearmongering, nothing last forever.
>global warming isn't a liberal issue. It's an "if we can't stop it humans will, necessarily, go extinct" issue.
Humans will not go extinct in my lifetime, and I most likely will never have any kids, but even if I did, humans would not go extinct for a VERY long time after their grand-grand children were already dead for a very long tim.
Again, what is the point you're trying to make here?
Global warming isint real sheep
If the goal was to control the weather and master our planet, then it wouldn't be an issue. Since the goal is to trick stupid people into voting for bills and proposed laws littered with fine print that strips them of whatever freedom they have and destabilizes our current political systems worldwide, it's a problem.
Polar bears will end up coming south and adapting. It really sucks but they will survive, I hope.
It'S aLl nOrMaL aNd NaTuraL it haPPenEd BeFoRe. DeFOresTatiON NaH WhO CaRes
and who has the power to make that "official" call?
and lol, you would really end your life just cuz some one else says the world is over?
what a sad existence you have.
poor penguins tho
I don't care...I've always hated bears anyways.
"The planet if fine, the people are fucked"
that there's an increasing risk of someone coming to murder you and take your shit as the world governments/economies colapse because of a crisis caused by global warming?
the only thing that can save us is population control, 1/2 kid per person policy could solve everything in just a few generations.
thatll create even more problems, everyone will want a male child to forward family name, causing a further crash in population.
Global warming is real. Yesterday it was 81f at my house, today it was 89f! We'll all be dead by the end of the week.
Actual climate scientist reporting in.
Too tired to contribute, but it's cool to see this type of content on here. Keep it up.
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The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
you're actually braindead if you believe in what you just said
make first time abortions illegal as well as gender doctors. What's your answer then, carbon tax? like charging people for something most cant control is going to do anything. reducing carbon makers is the only thing that can possibly work in the long and short term, you just need to come to grip with it
what freedoms do those bills strip you of? Bring some examples
you are quite the little dictator arent you?
>solve all the world's problems by creating new ones.
Ask me anything bro. Want to learn about fluid dynamics? Clausius-Clapeyron? Newton's laws of motion? Arctic sea ice? Global Ocean Circulations? Feedback systems?
ahh, but where did the "too tired" part go?
Proving a random internet schlub wrong is sweeter than sleep. Lulz. I mean really though, I don't care if you believe me. My point was to convey approval in seeing cool content here. Not to brag, my job is hard af and doesn't pay great.
So are the people who are protesting climate change actually think we can have a static climate? That's as anti scientific as you can get.
Why don't we try to stop winter? Think of all the energy we could save.
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everything changes, but the earth's climate should not... wut?
Can’t wait til those bastards die so people will stop crying about it.
population reduction will come at some point, the question you have to ask yourself is do we do it at our terms or at the terms of famine, plague and war.
I'm not doing your research for you when I'm 5 hours past when I should have gone to sleep for work. Read some of the bills that get proposed here in the US, they are constantly filled with innocuous shit that doesn't pertain to the actual subject of the bill.
Most of it seems tiny and pointless, and in most cases it doesn't even seem as if it will have major ramifications, if any at all. But if/when something gets passed into law, everything on the paper becomes law, and when the next bill comes around it's almost guaranteed to have more seemingly innocuous bullshit that's rigged to play off of the bullshit that just got passed.
Think I'm blowing smoke up your ass? Go read it.
they will live on the pictures on our hard drives, and zoos
Put her down already.
Who are you trying to impress
if earth's history has any say, it most definitely will be the latter.
human "progress" doesn't come without the bumps and bangs that knock us back into reality.
since we can't possibly know every minute detail of what makes the earth tick, and no way to isolate it from the rest of what the universe throws at us, theres no way we can possibly set our own timetable.
to think otherwise is nothing short of arrogance.
Have you read about the "warm blob" in Northeast Pacific sea surface temperatures the last few years? It's related to why Alaska has been so warm and why the western US has had such awful fire seasons the last few summers.
Pacific Decadal Oscillation positive mode is definitely playing a big role in that. Remember the 'global warming hiatus' in the early 2000's? That was the PDO negative mode. It's been so rainy in the US recently because of the El Nino and PDO, lots of atmospheric rivers this winter too. Climate is all but static.
Just hope/glad I'll be dead before this Shit really comes down
Ur mom.
The day will come when you’ll have to tell your kids that polar bears aren’t real. Just like Santa.
*cough* bill c 16 *cough*
Canadian but still relevent
If paleolithic man was able to survive the last great ice age, why is climate change going to kill us all this time?
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>makes a point
>someone "source?"
>I'm too tired find it yourself
want me to read it? then give me links, why are you even blabbering here if you haven't actually prepared to give some actual information?
good one fed, maybe next time.
Nice trips.
Climate change isn't likely going to kill us all. It's one big cost-benefit problem. Essentially, it will cost more money to rebuild our major cities than to reduce emissions and cool the planet. Most of the world's population lives near the coast. Oceans are rising. That's a problem, mostly economically.
>Moving the goalpost
It's like you're being retarded on purpose
Oldfag here, been hearing this shit since before you were born. The oceans were supposed to be gone in the 90’s and the population bomb was supposed to spread war and famine before the year 2000. Used to be another ice age coming, but now we’re all supposed to burn up in the next 12 years. I heard one guy saying the earth was literally a frying pan. It was bullshit in the 70’s and it’s bullshit now, and ironically it’s the same assholes still preaching it. They’re like those religious nuts who calculate the end of the world, only these assholes don’t have the decency - or shame - to disappear when it doesn’t come to pass.
Of course you're right, and I agree with you, but the politicians (who also like to say "the science is settled!") are scairng the dumbfounded dipshits that we're all going to die.
We could feed those polar bears if we unleashed them on western civilization
Be stupid then, you're just another set of text on the wall I'm going to forget about after I shut the tab.
As if you prepare a fucking binder of proof every day to throw at people who disagree with you. Google is pretty fucking simple, and it's not hard to search under the broad-ass range I gave to you of "look at pretty much any bill/law we have in my country". You just need to read the whole thing, including the fine print.
I'm going to bed. Goodnight, Yea Forums.
Don't worry. Some of us know it's just a ponzie scheme to get corrupt democrats rich
it's not going to happen in my lifetime
why should I care?
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Educate yourself, fool.
and they are trying to tax you for it, thank god Trump shut that shit down, but my stupid lib state want to try.
Starving kids in Africa vs polar bears in a battle to extinction. When can this happen?
Aint No gobal warming comming cause aint no globe earth
The polar bear population has been going up for decades, they aren't going extinct.
>ironically it’s the same assholes still preaching it
I don't think you know what ironic means
so you're one of those luke warm conservatives then. k liberal in sheeps clothing.
Polar bears have a retarded hunting strategy anyways.
They'll begin moving south while other bears move north and they'll interbreed to make new bear species. It's actually already happening to a degree youtube.com
Nobody ever talks about the possible consequences of trying to prevent a regular earth cycle. Look at how badly California screwed things up trying the save a little fish.
"That the increase of population is necessarily limited by the means of subsistence,
That population does invariably increase when the means of subsistence increase, and,
That the superior power of population is repressed by moral restraint, vice and misery."
A lot of the misinformation is intentionally misleading to create confusion and distrust. Fossil fuel lobbyists have outspent environmental advocates by like 100 times in the last 10 years.
Looks like an easy win then.
That’s because humans are 100% against nature. Medicine, correctional glasses, accommodating environments, etc.
We as a whole strive to minimize nature’s RNG.
Yeah, and Vox doesnt have a narrative to push.
Oh a bill that stripped literally no freedoms. Good example.
That's the actual projections from the AMIP climate models run at various emissions. They're certainly not fudging scientific data if that's what you're implying...
Are you a fucking Luddite? I'm supposed to walk around half-blind instead of correcting my eyesight with simple technology?
you are actually retarded.
what narrative is that?
Are you implying that no scientist has ever fudged results to get more funding?
This
You'll reincarnate into a shittier world.
Global warming is a real threat.
>humanity has little effect on the climate
Says some fucking idiot that disagrees with 99 percent of climate experts. Why cant you drown in your cereal, just fucking forget to breathe. Please Darwin take him before he reproduces.
If you want to attack the accuracy of the climate models, that's a whole 'nother ballgame. Just sayin' the plot is representative of current scientific understanding.
We should kill everyone from Colorado and westward. That'll help control the carbon output
Lol "experts" hell give me a fat paycheck and I'll shill those bias studies too
The same type of person as yourself used to show equally valid and scientific "evidence" about the oceans drying up by 2020 back in the 90s.
Not that many years before that, they were showing equally "scientific" studies saying the planet was going into an ice age.
You probably don't remember, because I assume you were born in the last two decades, but people like you have always existed, and before them it was those "THE END IS NEAR" sings that religious fanatics used to wear in order to stir fear into the population.
Alarmists like yourself are part of life, and the older you get, the less likely you become to fall for this same tired, old, and recycled talking points that resemble more the behaviors of a cult than anything else.
>Says some fucking idiot that disagrees with 99 percent of climate experts.
Galileo would like to have a word with you, brainlet.
The same narrative that all of the progressives are pushing.
By nature’s law, yes, you should be dead so you can’t pass on your shitty eyesight genes.
What a surprise, anti-science and homophobe. YOU NEVER SEE THOSE TOGETHER
Except...except...that's current data showing the lack of sea ice in the Arctic. I'm in my 30's actually and I have an advanced degree.
>How did the earth approaching its demise get turned into /pol/ faggotry? This isn't a political issue
Because actually doing something about climate change means that groups of rich people will lose money. Most of /pol is brainwashed by those rich people and their acolytes.
Ironic.
which is???
stop voting and kill yourself. you are hurting everyone and everything around you.
Perspective would like a word with you.
ding ding ding
We have a winner.
You have to look closely, but you can spot several of these disinfo lunatics ITT. Probably Russian trolls.
Time for you to take your meds.
Did you verify the SCIENCE?
Did you verify that those 99% verified the science?
Quiet down, brainlet.
>ding ding ding
We have a winner
Fucking soyboy.
Your kind are not the first ones to say this shit, and you will be long dead when the next iteration of this "THE END IS NIGH" hysteria catches on with future generations that will be equally as ignorant and pretentious as you are.
The end of the world is inevitable, whether you think you know how it will end or not.
what in the fuck are you on about?
Sorry bro, I legit haven't posted on here in 3 years. I'm trying to assimilate.
Nice try dumb dumb
adapt or die bitch
You're right. I guess that I need to find a cave to move into and start wearing animal skins and forget about thousands of years of progress which is anti-nature.
You sound like one of those relatively educated and intelligent people who knows just enough to be extremely dangerous. I hope you're at least trying to sew discontent or getting paid. You're pretty good.
"Some people have been wrong, therefore everyone is always wrong"
You'd die from exposure within a week
Look up the ppm of co2 during the Carboniferous period retard
Actually, most rich people would love nothing more than living the good life while the majority lose out on all the "nice" things in life.
They might even try to sell you it to you in the form of saying you'll be "helping humanity" or "saving the planet".
Check these out and tell me if rich republicans thought this bullshit up.
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Science.
You know what science is, right brainlet?
pretty much this. or could just be dunning-kruger.
Irrelevant. Earth was a totally different place back then. Tons of volcanoes and geologic activity going on. Different base state climate. Common (false) argument. Yawn.
I'm pretty sure I do...but you don't appear to.
>Because actually doing something about climate change means that groups of rich people will lose money. Most of /pol is brainwashed by those rich people and their acolytes.
How can those "rich assholes" be afraid of global warming if they are the ones, and the only ones, desperately pushing this new version of the apocalyptical end of the world?
Which is why we don't live like that anymore
Humanity is an evolutionary dead end.
No man, that is what scientist do, they redo each others experiments and see if they come out the same. If they disprove the other papers conclusion then they they publish a paper on it. Did you pass high school?
>"Some people have been wrong, therefore everyone is always wrong"
More like
"Everyone has been wrong so far, but this time it's for real you guys..."
You're pretty sure?
I want to learn about fluid dynamics
If you don't care then why actively hinder people that do?
Creating renewable energy has more benefits than just mitigating global warming. Even if you don't think global warming is an issue, surely you see the giant masses of waste floating in the oceans as an issue; an issue renewable and recyclable energy sources can help with.
>No man, that is what scientist do, they redo each others experiments and see if they come out the same
Ok, now show me proof that the 99% he stated verified the others claims.
I'll be waiting here patiently.
God I hope this climate change will kill off 3/4ths of humanity. I'm going to start taking the long routes when I drive
They want us guzzling fossil fuel while supporting their corporations that rape the planet by cutting corners to make more profit. The sheep are much less threatening when we're content. tl;dw
Fucking finally
see pretty easy concept right? someday you'll break through.
What about the other side of the coin?
Just watch the videos., if you don't have time tonight, save them and watch later.
Getting vaccinated causes autism!
>Ok, now show me proof that the 99% he stated verified the others claims.
again I ask, what in the fuck are you on about? Is this even being asked in English?
I already responded to the guy who shouldn't have stuck up for you because you're an idiot.
Maybe you'd like to answer the question?
>again I ask, what in the fuck are you on about?
>Says some fucking idiot that disagrees with 99 percent of climate experts.
As sad as it is, species come and go. Species are born and species die. The Earth cools and the Earth melts, regardless. Polar Bears will either evolve or suffer the consequences
Haha. It sucks. The moisture budget equation is a good place to start.
Precipitation - Evaporation = Moisture Flux Convergence + local rate of change of precipitable water.
That balance holds true on most scales.
Here's your basic fluid dynamics equations as they relate to the atmosphere.
grc.nasa.gov
Worst case scenario the world triggers a new ice age and everyone dies a slow and painful death raping and eating each other to survive.
Best case scenario you get lung cancer because you live in a smog zone.
Idk about global warming, but I know that there is a perma cloud of shit over vegas.
dont use scientific worlds like evolve when you dont understand what the fuck you're talking about.
If you really don't think climate change is happening then I feel bad for you and your smooth brain.
>Ok, now show me proof that the 99% he stated verified the others claims.
I could but I have a life, I am not your mechanical Turk. If you think you found an error in a climate science paper, you can publish it. Your claim would then be verified by many a grad student looking to publish a new paper.
You can't deny that the Earth goes through warming and cooling cycles fucking moron. There called Ice Ages and with the thousands of years in orbit of the sun every now and then on our path through space we get closer and further from Sol.
That NWO shit freaks me out man. It seems like a big trap to scare tinfoil hats while reality will look nothing like that in our lifetimes at least.
So, you don't know who the 99% are?
You can't show me their names?
And you can't show me their work?
>If you don't care then why actively hinder people that do?
Because you pieces of shit don't have any solution either. You're just a bunch of power hungry lunatics spreading misinformation and propaganda designed to scare poorly informed naive teenagers into complying with your delusions of grandeur.
You're just as insignificant as the next guy, yet somehow you believe you "know more", just because some paid politician said the world is going to end if you don't believe something someone was paid to say about the end of the world.
You're not "intelligent" just because you're regurgitating what your politician of choice instructed you to vomit.
No man, we could start doing it, but like, I need to get to work tomorrow. Are you going to pay me?
Cool pivot, brainlet.
and you're just being pedantic for the sake of argument...it's transparent and pathetic.
what are you fighting against, you fucking moron?
the urge to grow up and get a real job?
Orbital forcing and glacial cycles are absolutely fascinating to learn about. Highly recommend you read about it some more. Milankovitch Cycles.
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Shouldn't this scientific work be easily accessible?
It is science after all, amirite famalam?
The planet is dying and faggots like you are holding the species back. Climate change is real. Fuck politics. They should hang deniers like you in the streets.
hey buddy, tell me about your flat earth theory...or how vaccines cause autism...or how Trump is a really stable genius!
Though it's highly likely that climate change will actually cause us to "miss" our next ice age. That's recent research findings. I guess overall that's not too bad of a thing for humanity?
>p-p-pay me f-first so i can p-prove you i'm r-right
reddit never changes.
I'd rather hear more about your religious beliefs.
You sound very angry for someone so empathetic and scientific.
look at this retard dig his heels in, lol.
Okay, here is an example. I was working on a dissertation on simulator sickness. The number of papers on the topic is in the 1000s. It would take like years to go through them all. You know, that is what scientist do during grad school. They spend many a year reading all the literature on the topic. Are you going to be my phd adviser on climate science after am I done reading them?
well, why are you right, then?
You sound like a pig getting raped cunt
>indiana.edu
the intro disclaimer instantly discredits the article and gives an immediate fake news vibe
>Are you going to be my phd adviser on climate science after am I done reading them?
All I'm asking for is verification that this 99% exists.
We've been hearing about it for years and years, where is it?
That's what the IPCC report is for.
dude, he wouldn't know...it's hard to meet people with PhDs and understand what they really do when you never leave your tiny, inbred, shit-kicking hamlet.
That's something called springtime.
You sound a little butthurt, user.
>t-the world is totally dying you guys
>s-seriously
>it's g-going to end
>u-unless you v-vote for d-democrat
Bro that's basic textbook material. If you think that's fake news, you have issues with reading comprehension.
solid comebacks, bros.
>We've been hearing about it for years and years, where is it?
Okay I can give you a little secret.. There is actually something called google scholar. You would know about it if you went to grad school.
scholar.google.com
So start reading! :)
it's simply not true. What is the cause of the Earth's cooling cycle and Ice Ages then???
Ice Dragons
>Earth was a totally different place back then
You're right, it had much more life at that point. Neck yourself retard.
>vote for my politicians or the world is going to end
Great argument. I'm almost convinced.
Changes in the seasonal distribution of solar energy due to orbital cycles, which leads to internal variability in the climate system due to feedbacks. It gets fairly complicated, but it's enough to understand that it is primarily forced by orbital Milankovitch Cycles.
I recently learned how to refute that counterpoint about CO2, so I'm proud to finally pull it out of my quiver. Keep learning brah, you'll get there. I'm off to bed.
>vote for mine or the mexicans will rape and murder you.
Waste my time in grad school on a whim that I'll one day be making 100k a year?
Yeah, I went into the family business instead.
I pay nerds like you to work for me.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, we need people like you, to do...whatever it is you do.
We've gotten a bit off track, can you show me what I asked for above or not?
If not you then someone else?
Is there a database with their work, names and conclusions I can see?
Exactly. So whoever I was quoting who post the Milankovitch Cycle link is wrong. It is caused by orbital cycles
Most people are stupid in the world. Probably 80%+ of the total population.
Mexicans DO rape and murder americans at an alarming rate, even though they are only a fraction of the population. The same applies to terrorist attacks from muslims
Again, facts vs feelings.
I just want NOT to die from fucking Pablo, Muhammad, and their gang when I leave my house to go to work in the morning. Is this really that much to ask?
It is a good question, why does the majority of s republican politicians not believe in climate change?
Have you considered if they are representing their voters?
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So you are in the minority, because most republicans now believe in climate change.
So if science doesnt agree, and their voters dont agree, why do republicans continue to not support climate change?
Its like someone is paying them not to believe.
Their big donors dont want to lose money. That is why they continue to disbelieve climate change.
The next question is why do you? Is someone paying you to be an idiot or are you just an idiot?
We could all die if a super volvano erupted. Or if a solar flare hit earth.
Js...you shouldnt speak in certainty when the universe is a very uncertain chaotic place.
>VOTE FOR MY POLITICAL PARTY OR THE WORLD IS GOING TO END
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faggot that doesn't say shit about 99% of scientists agree, where does it say how large of an effect we have on climate change? Terrible link, dumb fuck
Who do the Democrats speak for?
Are they controlled be private interests?
>I pay nerds like you to work for me.
Then trust the nerds working on climate science. They do this because they love it.
If you want to be more informed, you can read this. Someone mentioned it.
ipcc.ch
if increased gun ownership reduces crime, why are school shootings up 1000% since 1999?
Yeah a majority of the dems are also bought by private interest.
Example is the health care industry.
>They do this because they love it.
How do I know that?
Who pays their salary?
Do they get grants?
These are important questions, user.
Global warming is a natural phenomenon, but climate change is man made. These are facts
the same IPCC who said the ozone layer was going to be depleted so badly we were all going to die
>LE KEK
You do understand the majority of those papers are only repeating the exact same narrative simply because teachers will fail you if you ever publish anything that goes against the status quo, right?
You do understand how people are putting their careers on the line if they decide to EVER question any of the leftist dogma, right?
Posting idiotic links to university papers to prove that the mainstream narrative is real, is like posting a link to some random CNN opinion piece about why trump is "literally hitler".
yea dude you realize at one point the vast majority of scientists SWORE that lead had no ill effects on the human body, because there's NEVER bias involved in science.....
>mainstream narrative is real
No thats what scientist says, and most people believe the scientist, including republicans.
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>and most people believe the scientist, including republicans.
What do you want, user?
Just lay it all out there, give us a list of things we should be doing right now.
You clearly have an opinion, so lets hear it.
why dont you kill yourself you incel? nobody is going to miss your ugly ass
How about you let the adults talk and stop wasting thread space, bozo.
lol this faggot , so cool using "incel" bud, I'm smarter than you , period
Why does science requires consensus to be real all of sudden?
both of you are a bunch of virgins who have never been touch by a woman, do the right thing and kill your yourself, you are pathetic
>scientists paid by leftist lobbyists find evidence that every single leftists narrative and talking point is real, and anyone who disagrees with them is a science denier
Color me shocked.
> (You)
>the same IPCC who said the ozone layer was going to
nationalgeographic.com
The ozone layer has been mostly healed thanks to the outcry. We are still alive so IPCC is wrong, or have you considered that maybe it worked and we repaired the ozone?
I just read this post out loud to my wife, we both laughed at your feeble projection.
dude you tell people to kill themselves over the internet, you must slay pussy
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tell your wife to call me, she clearly needs a men like me, and not a pussy incel like you bitch
Ben haven't you learned that you cant just call everyone you disagree with a leftist.
It makes you look like a paid shill.
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>she clearly needs a men like me
A men like you, huh?
>Why does science requires consensus to be real all of sudden?
It doesn't but certain science is less evident than others. There isn't an easy demonstration of climate change.
Can you rephrase that so it seems like less of a trap?
No.
I lost all my respect for this meme when I found out """"climate scientists""" do not take into account the sun, as a factor contributing to global warming.
Here's a picture of justin bieber's junk, to emphasize the seriousness which i'm taking this thread.
You need to have some kind of faith that the average scientist is an honest actor.
Hard pass.
What is your goal here? What exactly do you expect from the people replying to you right now?
Do you want them to join your cult? Do you want everyone here to vote for hillary? Do you want people to start shilling with you? Are you just bored and shitposting?
What is your goal by posting these threads every single fucking day? What do you expect to accomplish here?
>the average scientist is an honest actor.
Yeah. That's a hard sell.
>climate scientists""" do not take into account the sun
They do take the sun into account.
"Many climate scientists agree that sunspots and solar wind could be playing a role in climate change, but the vast majority view it as very minimal and attribute Earth’s warming primarily to emissions from industrial activity—and they have thousands of peer-reviewed studies available to back up that claim.
Peter Foukal of the Massachusetts-based firm Heliophysics, Inc., who has tracked sunspot intensities from different spots around the globe dating back four centuries, also concludes that such solar disturbances have little or no impact on global warming. Nevertheless, he adds, most up-to-date climate models—including those used by the United Nations’ prestigious Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)—incorporate the effects of the sun’s variable degree of brightness in their overall calculations."
You do understand stars get brighter and burn hotter as they're closer to death, right?
Oh well Im not the OP I just saw this thread and decided to defend science.
I hope that with links, quotes, and pointing out the republican politicians dont represent their voters that you may question your beliefs.
I didnt vote for hillary. Im just bored and taking a break from studying.
>You do understand stars get brighter and burn hotter as they're closer to death, right?
Yeah and the scientist account for that in their models. The claim was they dont, but they do.
>primarily to emissions from industrial activity
What are we supposed to do about that, user?
Would you like us to go to war with China?
Ask them nicely to stop burning with us?
Castrate ourselves?
Do you have any actual ideas of your own or would you like us to listen to AOC and Bernie?
>and pointing out the republican politicians dont represent their voters that you may question your beliefs.
What is that, the 3rd time you've repeated yourself about republicans?
Can you list the Cons of listening to Democrats in regards to policy involving emissions?
Why has literally every other form of violent crime - which outnumbers the overblown bullshit you're talking about by thousand of times over- has gone down significantly, even though gun ownership has remained consistent and the amount of guns in the country has done nothing but rise? Sounds like it's basically impossible to honestly associate that with guns, you fucking retard. Sounds like more of a cultural phenomena.
They want to remove environmental regulations that were put in place because rivers were catching fire and people were dying from coughing up too much blood
You do understand you're doing an atrocious job at converting anyone to your side, and it's far more likely you're pushing people further away from the belief you are saying you want them to hold.
If the only people you can convince and convert to your side are people who already believe the exact same things you believe, then you're living in a bubble.
You're not "defending" science here, you're making even more people distrust science.
yousa soy, we gonna die!?
Is that a no?
Did your professor only touch on the big bad Republicans?
There are lost causes in this thread
>area of ocean with 15% of sea ice
shouldn't you graph the area of ocean covered in sea ice?
graphing the amount of the ocean accounting for 15% of the ice is kind of a bullshit statistic, since that doesn't tell us whether there's less ice or more water
No, I just misread your post and I'm not that other guy. Do you not have anything in defense of Republicans wanton disregard for the lives of their constituents?
Please read that again
the projecting is off the charts
Dirty phoneposter
(You)
it reads: area of ocean with at least 15% sea ice
wtf do you want, does it mean how much of the two dimensional measurement is ice? how do you separate which bits are more and less than 15% ice if you only look at the surface? Are they measuring the area of the ocean where the above liquid water accounts for 85% or less of the space? They are literally making it convoluted for no reason, which only invites skepticism
>Imagine being such a snowflake that you can't handle people telling you that you're wrong unless they consider your feefees first
Mad pussy
You only need to look at it in two dimensional because ice floats and so the volume above the surface is proportional to the volume beneath the surface. I really don't know how to help you, man
Hells yeah I get mad pussy
Is that a no?
I'll solve this whole thread.
You are all going to die before you can escape this planet and ruin the rest of the universe with your human filth.
You all are so retarded and so completely opposite that if global warming doesn't kill you all, then you all will sure as hell find another way to kill yourselves just for the sake of killing yourselves. You're all just a bunch of self serving greedy fucks who could care less about your children, their children, or any of the rest of the human race.
Enjoy creating your own demise by constantly biting at each other's heels you ignorant fucks.
Even if we try to stop emission gases, temperature will rise because of oceans
so it is the area comprising 15% of the sea? My initial point was that they should just say that
we need to start global cooling
fuck you the earth will get cold as the sun expands
No, it's the total area of all ocean with at least 15% ice coverage. I really don't know how to make this any clearer and it was already pretty clear to start with
if i'm only looking at area, how do I differentiate being 10% and 20% covered in ice?
how do you measure what percent of an area is 15% covered in sea ice?
With calculus. I'm really not prepared to walk you through that one right now
kek, you don't understand calculus at all. you literally can't tell me that x square miles of ocean are 15% ice without separating them. calculus calculates change and area under a curve, they would have to supply a curve before they can supply the area underneath it since they aren't trying to map the change itself
Holy shit holy shit holy shit being this fucking stupid. Hey dipshit, it means there was 15% of observed ocean had sea ice. Because you are spectacularly stupid I will underpin that sea ice floats, only has a surface mass, and that we're measuring area not volume so it doesn't matter how much of the ice floats because it's not an iceberg. Hot fuck man, you're dumb as shit
I just drove around the block for no reason except to accelerate climate change
I don't think you understand what you're talking about. They use calculus so that they don't need to break the ocean into discrete chunks in order to evaluate what percentage is ice
Moron
wtf why does he not shave? holy fuck thats horrible
lol, tell me genius, how do you graph 15% of the ocean being ice?
let me spell it out: they are literally telling me that the area of the ocean with 15% sea ice has decreased. if I measured 100 square meters of water, could you tell me how much of it had 15% ice? If they were trying to tell me what the ice sheets area was they could graph that, but they didn't, they went out of their way to title the graph the most convoluted thing they could come up with
Apex predators tend to die of old age/hunger
So what?
Pick a shovel instead of a book next time
Kek. Stupid fucking bear
If you see a skinny deer do you assume the world is ending?
Polar bears live in some
Of the harshest conditions on earth, the picture of a skinny one doesn’t show anything other than it needs some food
15% sea ice observed over 100sq meters of ocean would be 15sq meters. Keeping up?
Please let me know what reeputiable scientist has predicted the end of the word due to global warming
Furthermore please tell me how it is at all possible to slow let alone stop or reverse.
>Furthermore please tell me how it is at all possible to slow let alone stop or reverse.
Po box?
Humans are better off on a warmer earth.
Prove me wrong (you can’t)
dummy.
Humans can't grow food in marshes or deserts
so how would that number change over the same area, and still be 15%? The graph you posted shows that the area comprising 'area of ocean with at least 15% sea ice" as changing but I assume they didn't stop measuring the whole ocean. If 15% of the ocean was ice all throughout then it doesn't seem like so much of a problem.
>humans can’t grow food in deserts
Humans have been irrigating deserted for thousands of years you fucking retard
Furthermore that isn’t even talking about modern tech like greenhouses, hydroponics etc.
Furthermore furthermore countless hectares of arable land will open in the northern hemisphere while deserts are only expected to grow slightly and the worst sea level rise i a few feet in 100 years.
Climate change panic is literally just politicians trying to win power over something that is not a big deal.
And let’s not even get into some other issues like global warming causing more precipitation which means more snow and ice feeding desert rivers and more rain overall, more plant growth etc
Global warming could make many deserts actually more habitable because of this
THIS IS LITERALLY OUR FAULT
WE SHOULD HAVE ENDED CHINA AND INDIA BEFORE THEY COULD HAVE POLLUTED OUR OCEAN AND SKY
>I assume they didn't stop measuring the whole ocean
You assumed it in the first place, there's more than one ocean you stupid piece of shit
>Just grow all of humanity's food in a green house
Lol alright champ, let's move on to the next issue: mass extinction of pollinators. Whatchu got fampai?
okay, so what ocean are they measuring, they don't mention that in the study
I'm honestly waiting for the Climate Faithful to pull a Jonestown.
It truly would be the best thing they could do for the planet
>so what ocean are they measuring, they don't mention that in the stud
Because it's observed area. They're not charting a fucking ocean, they're charting ice
>I'm honestly waiting for the Climate Faithful to pull a Jonestown
Haha you first
>just go to the greenhouse sub point becuase you got blown the fuck out
The pollinators aren’t going extinct there is plenty of temperate habitat and will be even if the average temperature of the earth was 10 c warmer (not predicted)
You know that there have been times where there were jungles in the arctic circle and Antarctica?
Did you know there have been times where the entire earth is frozen solid???
The most dire predictions for the effects of climate change are completely manageable by modern humans
Get a grip
No they didn't. You're a liar.
Pollinators are absolutely on the list for mass extinctions due to man-made warming. Entire ecologies are predicted to collapse when certain keystone species start to die off
Link that isnt insane hyperbole please
but they're measuring the ice as 15% of the area; tell me how the ices area maintains 15% of the total area without the oceans area changing, unless the oceans area and the ices area change together
>tell me how the ices area maintains 15% of the total area
Fucking fuck you're stupid
I'm glad George Carlin is dead. I'm sad it didn't happen at birth.
>I'm glad George Carlin is dead. I'm sad it didn't happen at birth
Go soak your head
Auschwitz bears
>replying to half of a sentence
I'm still waiting to hear how the "area of ocean with 15% sea ice" can change without the area of the measured ocean changing. If 15% of the measured area was ice and that area also changed then obviously the measured area changed so why are you trying to act smart without actually addressing the point?
maybe you've been trolling me all along and I've been silly enough to believe you actually believe that graph means something
Because you exclude the bits with less than 15% ice. You should pursue your GED
OH NO!
NOT THE POLAR BEARS!
I mean really they are nearly as retarded as Pandas.
I FUCKING HATE pandas.
Most retarded animal on the planet.
Not only do they not enjoy having sex.
But they also ONLY eat bamboo.
The have carnivore teeth.
The muscle mass and physique to be a predator.
And what do they do?
Bumble-fuck around and chew bamboo for hours.
They can literally only eat all of their waking hours since bamboo is soo poor in nutrients.
I have all the hate in the world for Pandas.
Polar Bears are not much better.
They evolved to be the top predator in an area of the world that has the LEAST amount of game.
Fucking retards.
what constitutes less than 15% ice? i asked earlier what the difference between 10% and 20% ice is when measuring area (surface) but you neglected to address it, stating simply that "ice floats"
if I measure a swimming pool, how do you differentiate which parts are more than 15% ice? the graph states that it measures how much of the area is >=15% sea ice but you haven't mentioned how a surface examination dictates what percentage is ice.
Can you give me one good reason why they didn't just graph the total area of arctic ice?
weeeeeeeeeeee
based
I never said that climate change wasn't real, my point is that it is being used as a club to bully the uninformed into surrendering their sovereignty. You would realize that if you would stop hooting and jumping around, and clean the feces from your monitor.
>what constitutes less than 15% ice?
It's a unitless number, it's just 15%
>i asked earlier what the difference between 10% and 20% ice is when measuring area (surface) but you neglected to address it, stating simply that "ice floats"
The difference is 10%
>if I measure a swimming pool, how do you differentiate which parts are more than 15% ice?
None of it, it's a swimming pool.
>the graph states that it measures how much of the area is >=15% sea ice but you haven't mentioned how a surface examination dictates what percentage is ice.
They use calculus to establish the limit of the boundry
>Can you give me one good reason why they didn't just graph the total area of arctic ice?
It's incalculable.
Go read the paper. I hope Google isn't outside of your ability too
The ebest way to end Global Warming or Climate Change or whatever it is now, is to have fewer offspring with better energy efficiency. The entire world is doing this already except the niggers of Africa. So, the fix is already in, so long as the rest of the world can band together and keep Ebola and HIV alive.
Best value for your money: AP&WP ammo
Armor piercing Incendiary, burns through and gets absorbed by skin, poisonous, causes cancer
Are the Climate Faithful still pushing the 'Ice Free Arctic in Summer' meme? I first heard that one over a decade ago. It was supposed to happen around 2012.
I've heard they've since had to redefine what counts as 'Sea Ice Extent' and how much they estimate we had in the 70's, just to keep claiming it's still going down.
You know you've got some really robust 'Science' when you can't see the trends without adjusting the data.
so any arbitrary measurement constitutes 15%? funny how the measurements from your posted study only mention air pressure and not temperature. Funny how you have now meaningful explanation for what constitutes any given percentage of ice for any given area of ocean. Funny how you keep mentioning "they use calculus" without a single reference to actual mathematic calculations. Funny how they know what percentage of the oceans area is ice but the actual area of the ice is incalculable. Maybe you should read the paper, and this time actually think about what the words mean and not what the authors intend you to assume.
>Fossil fuel lobbyists have outspent environmental advocates by like 100 times in the last 10 years.
Straight up bullshit lies. Let me guess, you got that figure from one of the NGO's, like Tides's or Greenpeace that for some reason don't count all the money they spend promoting it themselves, or all the money spent by Government, but DO count every dime spent by something like The Heartland Instatute or The Koch's, regardless of whether it was spent on Climate, Healthcare, or Net Neutrality.
>disagrees with 99 percent
I disagree with 99% of Catholics. Clearly I am wrong for denying the wisdom of self-declared experts.