Shrooms vs LSD

Shrooms vs LSD.
Your thoughts?

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ive taken both a number of times. shrooms is always more intense and i get much stronger closed eye visuals on them. I decided to stop taking psychedelics because i feel like it is harmful for my brain.

Has anyone had experience with Psilove 'GO' Kit? wholecelium.com/shroom-growkits.html
Here is the manual for it and I don't understand how it's supposed to grow. For other kits you need to fill it with water, but this one you just put it inside the bag? Isn't it too dried?

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smart man. abusing psychs can fuck you up long term and mental illness is no fun
no but from what I've read you don't want extremely wet substrate. humidity and moisture is key and I'm sure anyone producing kits knows what works best for their strain and substrate. high moisture opens the door for infection

This. Lsd has always been more pleasurable for me. Better thinking process, could control when i cum so i was able to fuck for 3hours straight. On shrooms it was more dirty experience, sometimes to the point when it wasn't pleasurable anymore. Anal sex on shrooms is interesting tho

Also stopped with all drugs except weed and occasional prescription opiod painkillers

Shrooms nausea is a no go esp for any type of trip
Lsd definitely not good for u makes u trip about evil shit
Idk pick ur poisin

I much prefer lsd as well, typically way more pleasant and cleaner feeling like you described. mush gives me a heavy body high and really upsets my stomach. you right about the sex too. lsd sex is one of the most beautiful things one can experience. I think both substances have a lot to teach us though and I'm grateful to have tried both many times

nah lsd doesnt make you think about evil shit. that can happen on any substance and typically it is due to your mindset or your surroundings. I've done a lot of L and rarely experienced anything negative but I do agree about the nausea with mush, really can ruin a good trip

Idk the acid i get makes u trip about killing people and shit

Shroom nausea isnt very pleasant, but LSD heavily depends on one's mindset.

Shrooms feels more natural, i could tell the difference very easy

Both are great drugs for teenagers who are just getting into drugs. Once you're more experienced, both become boring and pointless.

do yourself a favor and test that shit man, your mental state isnt worth playing with and theres some bad shit out there being sold as acid. I've had some bizarre trips but never imagined harming someone, in fact some trips were the most blissful times of my life. taught me how to love life and everyone in it. people joke about 'CIA acid' but I think there may be something to it. I've been convinced my dog was a listening device before lol

I honestly think the best way to either is with MDMA

I can agree

Terrence McKenna once said they have an animism about them as if something is alive in there. the term flesh of the Gods has fascinated me since I heard that, especially considering what a strange being psilocybin mushrooms really are
explain? what would be better to do then?

I just came down off of 2 tabs and just wanted molly the whole time. So I did coke instead

It’s weird i heard someone else say the same thing to me when i asked them why they don’t do it “makes you trip about killing people” but anyway that definitely doesn’t sound healthy

I've been doing both for years but I gave up shrooms because they were too connected to my emotions and would cause me to bug. So I'm a sid guy now. They're more fun
But I get it can be different for everyone

How was the experience with coke aftrer the comedown?

Take shrooms i go lay in my bed to try to sleep while trippin and im hearing people talk to eachother like im sitting 3rd at a table

I've only done shrooms. But that was definitely a pretty thought provoking experience.

Magic after effects were easier to control, didn't last as long.

Lucy after effects had me on edge, lot of strange thoughts.

BUT
>world thoughts provoked by magic
>inner spirit unlocked on lucy

(Everyone is different, though)

I went to a concert with my roommates and gf. So I got lit.

Came home and been hitting dabs ever since

Nice sounds like a good night

Anyone know how to find magic mushrooms in Maryland? Or am I shit out of luck?

coke while frying is so fucking good lolthat is interesting. everyone is absolutely different so I never discount someone's experience. definitely smart to stay away from it if you get those thoughts
I love Lucy and Lucy loves me

you can buy the spores online and grow them

LSD was a way better experience, for me. It was very thought-provoking, and a real mind-changing experience. Shrooms just made me feel stupid and emotional.

Do you have a link? Been looking for a while.

story time
>second time tripping
>pick up some gel tabs 300ug i think
>me and my friend both take it
>wait an hour
>starts to come up heavy everything is fucked
>3D tint to everything
>friends face starts stretching bigger
>everyones heads getting bigger and shit look like bobble heads
>have the most intense emotional and physical trip off any song
>so fucked up no words in english can come out

lil shop of spores ;) Instagram has some very reputable vendors too

Strange thoughts went like this
>attempted to sleep after dropping a Dutch tab in a club
>had chat between two people I know in my mind
>very vivid conversation about growth and different vibrations to avoid in public settings
>sudden halt when word "intertwining" was stated
Dunno how to explain this. Nonetheless, took three weeks to recover from this type of trip. And only did Lucy 3 times, versus 100+ on magic.

I go by this one

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>lil shop of spores

Thanks!

cont
>feel like im shrinking and growing to the ceiling
>trip about being this fucked forever and how fucked it might be
>our breathing looks all fucked up we both notice
>friends eyes and nose go unsymterica so he looks like a freak lol
i have dozens of pysch stories of diff shit happening so many effects from one drug

Acid. Mushies give me fucked up migraines for the next 24 hours after trip. And that’s with different dosages and different species. Even a half gram will fucked me up. But I really do enjoy the trip. So I’m not done with them yet

man that sounds very similar to some strange times I've had. trying to sleep while still on can really provide some intense hallucinations. concerning a halt with a specific word I had a bizarre trip with my best friend where everything immediately changed once he sneezed and said one word. makes you wonder if it's real or you're in a schizo state basically. glad you recovered though, I fucked myself up this last year tripping once or twice weekly for months and it's taken awhile and some DMT to feel ok
love it

Sounds fun
>magic trip
>see pulsation of world (earth's heartbeat)
>recognize we are all One
>all music and television shows intune emotions and mindset
>craziest times of life
Since turned 23 (26 now) stopped because it got too cartoon like and needed to get myself composed
>note - still working on "composure"

Bullshit. Shrooms are boring.

they're good people. word has it theyll ship anywhere as long as you're using them as examination specimens ;)
hell yeah I've learned to love psychs because of their varied effects. nothing else can even come close, be it good or bad effects

I wanna try DMT but i don't know anyone who sells it, do shrooms provide a similar feeling? I've never done psychedelics before

>people joke about 'CIA acid' but I think there may be something to it. I've been convinced my dog was a listening device before lol
delusions and paranoia are common on lsd, my impression was that lsd made me more prone to believe whatever dumb thought came into my head instead of questioning and discarding them. sometimes there's such thing as being a little too open minded. I had a bad trip and became convinced I was possessed once.

was meant for

shrooms = shotgun blast to the brain
LSD = precision laser to the brain


i think LSD is much better and provides a "cleaner" experience


aside from that DMT is the most intense

Psychedelics are for edgy teenagers.

Well, being on the brain note, believe the subconscious speaks to everyone in different fashions. Talked to a friend about the trip and didn't mention that "intertwine" statement, whatsoever, and he told me it sounded as if [due to the socializing during the come on of the Lucy while with him and the other friend] that I took on their spiritual outlooks. I really have no clue if this is accurate, but, again, it "trips" me the fuck out....

Also had a similar scenario with a mescaline gel tab I split with a friend. That was insane....

extract it yourself

Explain please?

ayhuasca maybe the best for you

is it hard?

A hero dose will probably be more intense than a DMt trip

But you need a lot of shrooms for it. Generic dose is 8 grams dry and heroic starts from 12g.

mushrooms: smoke and mud
lsd: electricity and flesh

worst nights of my life were the first few times I took mushrooms, but still I wouldn't trade them for anything
even now knowing what I'm doing better, they're still always very difficult for me to settle into
and then once you do, the short duration feels like you're getting gypped
L has always been good to me
it's the best thing ever
different people seem to have significantly different reactions to these though
luckily, we can all do both
and should
no reason to restrict yourself

Idk why but your comment made me laugh pretty hard.

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no not a similar feeling though they are chemically very similar. I'd recommend dipping your toes in first and not taking the high dive. mush is pretty simple to grow and dmt is pretty simple to extract FWIW
I hear you man. my grip on reality has been loose for awhile. straight up schizophrenic tendencies and thoughts and I literally cannot believe anything 100% no matter the proof. I think I want to believe that there's something to it because the alternative is so disappointing. I've had experiences where I believed I was in hell and ones where I felt as though I was seeing through the veil of our simulation
good point. the message will be whatever is going to work best for you personally. I think the mystery of these experiences is so compelling. I'm not sure if it's more bizarre to experience something alone and not have anyone believe you or to experience it with someone else who confirms they felt it too. man I'd love to try some mesc though!

lol nah bud that's weed you're thinking of
I like the cut of your jib, friend

Yup. I did 10g. My whole fucking room cane alive. I was looking at my self from the perspective of some random object in my room. It’s some really trippy shit. Loved it. Idk/10 if would do again though

nah, you can do it while you're fairly drunk as long as you pay attention and know what you're doing. the hardest part is finding a source for high quality plant matter that contains endogenous DMT in some parts of the world but here in europe you can buy a big bag of shredded mimosa hostilis bark for like 30 euros that yields 3 or 4 grams of purified DMT, the rest is essentially mixing some household chemicals, shaking it, skimming off the precipitate and evaporating the solvent to yield a mix of plant fats and DMT, then it can be purified through additional but relatively simple steps if you really give a fuck or feel like melting the DMT on a banger instead of smoking it.

I've always preferred LSD but shrooms are great too.
I just like that acid doesn't give you the upset stomach.

Nice thing about psilocybin is you can smoke it to get high, and it's very fast. You can feel each hit, so you get as high as you like and then stop smoking, like weed. Terrific for fucking.

Had some diethyltryptamine once. You smoke that too. Like DMT but lasts twice as long. 10 minute acid trip! That was fun.

I dont think anything can match the intensity of DMT

its just bonkers

Mesc is the "purpose" unlocking substance. You would have a hell of a time. It took me two years to accept what I'm here for, and it's scary because it sends you through a type of wormhole, reverting your energy back to when you were in existence before the present time we live in, now (i.e - your past characters). It was so much thrown to myself and my trip partner that we are no longer really friends. We grew up together for like 10 years and then did that. Showed each other our true intentions, too, and it shut off the so called feelings we had for one another in our friendship. It was sad, however, made me see the truth.
>tldr; mescaline is one of the most prophetic trips any human will ever experience

>haven't tried DMT so IDK that part via comparison

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I should mention that these plants are usually legal to buy an import but their quality can vary and it's something of a specialist item so it can be hard to find if you don't know where to look. google it OP, there's tonnes of information and techniques and guides and discussions and sourcing advice and such on dmt-nexus and /r/dmt.

>you can do it while you're fairly drunk
bro lmfao I love it
so the best I can explain the image is mush gets you in touch with yourself while lsd gets you in touch with the world around you. different for everyone but that's my experience
you cant smoke psilocybin though? I'd like some documentation on this

that gave me goosebumps man. my dad claims his favorite drug was always mesc so I've always wanted to try it, I'll be hoping to find some soon. sounds amazing if not very difficult. I've smoked dmt but never broke through and even then it woke my stupid ass up

Not kidding. Mesc was the ultima from everything I've even touched. It shows you the pattern of life, too. The kaleidoscope of all movements. I'm personally glad i can't get more because that stuff is too much on the soul. It's what, from my feelings, separates the weak from the strong. It most definitely is on levels of universal principles (hence energy from the past life coming to present thought).
Don't recommend doing that stuff with anyone else because dominant/submissive really comes out during the trip. It can cause some real problems, especially if another person deep down has envy or hatred for you.

>smart man. abusing psychs can fuck you up long term and mental illness is no fun.

Pyschadellics don't cause mental illness dumbass, if you have a current mental illness they can worsen it...

you explain the experience very well. I appreciate the mention of strange nuances like the dynamic between people. all I want is the truth and it seems as though it's a powerful tool in that pursuit, even if unpleasant at times. thank you for the insight and warning, I try to be careful with psychs but shit happens. you got me excited to eventually find some lol
never said they cause mental illness friendo. in my experience they have helped me in times of need and harmed me in times of mental instability. no need to call names, sounds like your ego may be a little bit too present right now

Thanks man, it makes a lot more sense to me now. I've spent ten years in a slump, alcohol and mixed substance abuse, mainly opiates and benzos when last year I had an accident, ended up in the hospital and for some reason the oxy (I had already been on for years) threw me into a psychosis.. When I came out on the other side, I was completely cured of depression and since I've been free from depression, drug-free as well, cold turkey. Now I only eat weed from time to time.
I have explored myself and my connection with the universe through meditation and have been contemplating psychs to go deeper. This thread is great.

Hopefully this will broaden the mindset for you further -
Imagine a drop of water hitting the surface of a pond. See the ripples. That applies to all humans. Mesc tends to make everyone that tries it (along with anyone who hears this and takes it in) beyond aware that ANY of our movements within life actually affect the vibrations/wavelengths of the entire world. Butterfly effect is a petty example. Social media is a cool step regarding evidence of "echo location" (you say something and somehow it pops up in another part of the world through someone's action). Life is so much fun. Make it a video game and you will have the true grasp and won't even need psychedelics. They just broaden the horizon and give more waypoints to the world and universal properties.
>enjoy the unlocks anyone that doesn't know this stuff, already.

shrooms are a dirty shitty trip better off not experienced in anything but tiny doses.

LSD is awesome and highly recommended by almost everyone who has ever had it

Is hard to explain. Yes they’re not visually the same even. But in terms of completely separating yourself from this real. Mushroom can get you there too. It’s like a slow burn dmt almost.

shit I've been there for a bit but not as long, woke up one day and just decided I love life (after a wild few dmt induced dreams.) your analysis of depression being the root cause really resonates with me because I've realized that was my real issue and addiction is just a symptom. psychs are definitely not necessary but absolutely a great tool for many people and you seem to have a great mindset to jump back in
please don't take my brief response as disinterest, I'm just trying to digest what you shared. life is fucking great and we can choose to be happy or sad, I've learned to be truly happy recently and I love it. I love everything. your experiences definitely align with what I've learned and the subtlety of what these experiences teach us is beautiful. seeing the fundamental workings of reality is priceless

You're good. Be unbiased about life. It's healthy. Avoid information that endangers you, however.

'acceptance' is a word my buddy uses a lot and despite his lack of psychedelic experiences I've yet to meet someone who understands the experience better. being unbiased is infinitely important and I try to balance my skeptic schizo mindset with that. 'information that endangers you' sounds like a very loaded phrase so I'll just assume you're talking about what I think you're talking about. sometimes I've thought I saw way too much

Anything taken incorrectly that has an ability to affect your mental process is what I mean. There will eventually be a world unification of all minds, when is not predictable, unfortunately. Too much easy spread of chaos tends to lock into peers, making many incapable of allowing the good messages to seep in. A group is already bound to rise and replace the control mechanism instilled within the ignorant/doubting populace. Sometimes I get lost in the overwhelming thought of the future lol

LSD was great
I got really anxious and scared on shrooms

I hear you, and I long for that day lol. I've always felt anarchy could work if everyone thought this way, but too many bootlickers and shitheels populate the world always ready to be fed some new misinformation. I want to believe we will see a paradigm shift in our lives but who knows. you should write if you don't already btw, you have a good style and insight

Thanks I'll look into that time for sleep. Pleasure speaking with you. Positive vibrations and frequencies to you. Be safe and seek the best outcomes life has to offer.

bless you brother. sometimes Yea Forums can be positive. I wish the same for you

Taken plenty of mushrooms for 10+ years plenty of 5g+ trips but acid made me feel legit insane like there were aliens trying to talk to me and i freaked the fuck out the moment i realized it was real and it never went away now i cant even smoke weed anymore without that feeling lol

Thanks man, I sincerely appreciate it! I understand that I would have gotten nothing out of psychs while in the state I was in and was actually wary of it before, I only did drugs to get by or (subconsciously or consciously, I'm not sure) try to kill myself.. I know what a detrimental shit drug xanax is, and I rarely drink alcohol anymore. Used to scoff at people who thought it was just a matter of "stop being sad" because it didn't make any sense, because I thought I would have if I could.. But I just wasn't ready.
The psychosis I was hurled into was one hell of a ride, and it was a sense of ego death that I didn't think was possible on opiates, but it was just what I needed to let go of anxiety and just trust myself to the waters.
I realize that drugs are not necessary to feel good or get a deeper understanding, but I now see it as a means of exploration

I have had the most visual trips on acid, mushrooms made everything look weird and make my body feel paralyzed.

I took 4 hits of acid, and my friend literally turned into the devil, i blinked and i was in a feild that had a church burning down. I looked back at him and he had grown wings and his jaw was falling off. I blinked again and i was back in reality. Super crazy trip.p

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Shrooms have peaks and valleys, LSD is just one solid peak for 8-12 hours

it's akin to people trying to help when you don't want help. totally hear you about killing yourself, I've never had the balls to do it outright so substance abuse allowed me to do it slowly whether I knew it or not. I mean "stop being sad" doesnt make sense when you're depressed though but all it takes is one experience to change your view on that, it isn't that easy usually but it actually can be. can't even imagine what you experienced in that time of psychosis though, but I believe any mental illness or symptom of it can take you there. you're definitely in a good place now though. drugs are great but for some of us they are just crutches. I don't like using a substance to 'feel good' even though I do that often but valuable substances like psychs can absolutely benefit everyone when used correctly

pay attention to that shit. might mean nothing but I'd rather not tempt fate. I had an ex literally tell me "I'm a demon and I have to sacrifice somebody. and I don't want it to be you" while we were both frying. she claimed to not remember but there's a reason she's an ex

Lol well i mean yeah we used to just do drugs and do dumbshit

but is it just dumb shit? maybe, maybe not. we really don't know. be safe friend

i like both. both achieve similar effects but one's way longer than the other.
also shrooms feel more "organic" than lsd, for better of for worse. I feel like I can control myself better and shit's more straight-forward on LSD....if that makes any sense.
shroom trip is like 5 or 6 hours vs LSD being 10~12. harder to fit a good LSD trip in if you're a normal busy adult but you can get away with some shrooms on a work night no worries.

legal to buy the spores online in most of the US, same with 1P-LSD.

Shrooms are great i have taken a lot over the years different portions, half ounce was the biggest portion i took, great experience. I have taken acid a few times and i would say acid can be more intense it lasts longer and truly can feel like an eternity.

Cali links?

>and truly can feel like an eternity
yeah that's the thing with acid. you feel like you've been tripping forever and you're only 4 or 5 hours in.

tfw your homegirl asks you how long its gonna last two hours into a trip
uhhhh awhile fam just chill

Shrooms is for a spiritual awakening. LSD is for partying

Encounters with good people for valuable exchanges are my sole reason for coming back to this anime rape dungeon year after year, so thank you, man!
I don't think that anyone can talk somebody into change, just as little as anyone can preach you into faith - it all has to come from the inside. I was definitely living in hell and I had gotten myself there through shitty life choices, I knew this and thought death was the only way out but just like you I was too scared to just do it, so I took the slow route. Though it started out as self medication it just doesn't hold up for long.
Depression isn't a choice to begin with, not for most people at least, but to get out is. But going back to the "nobody can talk you into change" which is true, but you at least need to know what the options are. Arrogant goody two shoes made me shy away even more from the way out, but once I definitely hit rock bottom, at least I remembered what I had been told before and was finally ready to accept it, and once you get it, you get it - and it seems really simple
I still use weed recreationally and it's not ideal, but at least it's not to run away from myself. Or to make life bearable

how old are you brotha? just curious because I wonder what brings us back here year after year. yeah you are right though, I've straight up denied help from people I love because you have to help yourself before anything. it's so cliched but everything we need does come from within. you totally get it though and I think weve had similar experiences. truly though once you get it you really get it, it is literally like flipping a switch. things you've heard for 20+ years make sense. its wonderful. and dude I still drink just about daily. I need to handle it but addiction is delicate. it's all bad but I've even felt addiction with lsd

I never had a full experience with shrooms. Took them a couple of times but it seems I have an unusual high tolerance so I never went beyond recommended dosage. LSD however mades me trip my socks off for twelve hours.

I I had to choose between the two I'd go for dmt :)

Shrooms are better than LSD anyday.
N,N DMT and 5-meo DMT is much better.
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Shrooms always hit me with a weird feeling of dread I couldn’t shake halfway through my trips, followed by paranoia for a few days after. Whenever I did LSD I never got any of that, can honestly say I never had a bad acid trip. I haven’t done either in years and am nervous to after spending 9 months in Afghanistan, but I’d probably try acid again in the right setting with someone I really trust testing the batch for me prior.

What was the recomended dose you took of mushrooms?

You're taking the wrong shrooms

No you're just easily impressed 14 yo.