23 years old dude. College programming degree but can't find a job for shit...

23 years old dude. College programming degree but can't find a job for shit. Just got out of a year long serious relationship. Lost in life with no plans. All my plans were with my fiancee and now they're down the shitter I need to start fresh elsewhere. Want to join the military but I'm not sure if it's right for me. I hear so many mixed things about it.

For people who have either worked in or alongside the military, what's it really like? What's good about it, what's bad about it? Why or why don't you recommend it?

Canadian military (Army, maybe airforce) for context but I don't imagine the US, or most other military are too different.

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The military is for niggers, they brainwash you into being their toy. Half the time you don't even do anything and the pay is awful.

You can program right? Do something with that, you didn't spend four years in college to throw that degree in the shitter.

dont get your hopes up, i would honestly recommend the military to anyone but understand the concept of professionalism and camaraderie is dying away, mot of these kids become better people and if you have no real goals in life or lack strengths the military will help you out long term so long as you let it and know how to do what youre told for me it feels like ive regressed being surrounded by some of these beta cucks, but then again im maintenance and i went in for special operations so my expectations were never met

The military will give you the pillars of self discipline, leadership of other men, and a strong work ethic that will be the bedrock of your character if you hope to be good at your job. Being a graduate you can always go officer and make 60k a year of the bat with housing and food paid for. Just be a man and go Navy or Marines. Coast guard is great too. Army is where the great unwashed go and the airforce is more or less a undisciplined joke.

probably a college cuck, the military is either a great way to start off your life and create options or it can be the end goal if you love your job, im currently working a gig thatll start off at a minimum of 80k when i get out, if pay is the goal you can always do some research and come out as a contractor with shit tons of cash

Faggot. Get a pilot slot. All the branches need pilots right now. Coolest fucking job on earth. Do your 10 and go fly for a airline.

big airforce is indeed a joke but if you want a serious proffesion go into a combat or direct support afsc youll be given the luxuries of the airforce with the respect and responsibilities of the worlds most lethal fighting force

cant argue with this other than saying there are plenty of great officer positions aside from pilot

Try drastically different. Canadian and U.S. Forces may work together, but just barely because of those severe and critical differences.

Retired U.S. Army, 7 years 80% disability from combat wounds, medical discharge.

Got out in the mid 90's, before they really started fucking everyone hard with no lube and with broken glass glued to the giant dildo.

get paid to shoot sandniggers? fuck yeah, that sounds like an awesome job

I dropped out of high school and I've never been to college. Everything I know is self thought. The military is for failures that don't have any other options.

True. But I'd rather drop bombs on people's heads then be a maintenance officer or some shit.

Fuck the bullshit airlines. He's a Leaf, he should get in with those ice flyers over by the North Face, make some hella insane bucks PDQ.

Especially if he was flying C-130's.

what sort of "college programming degree"? did you learn C to at least intermediate level? do you know how to perform various sorting functions using multiple threads and processes? did you learn some form of assembly? that can get a job in embedded systems.

did you learn object oriented, model-view-controller style GUI? MAKE A PROGRAM AND SELL IT. maybe learn unity and make money on steam.

if all you got was a baby coding certificate that barely touched on object-oriented and a few control structures and amateur data structures, you're not employable. you'd do better learning web programming on your own and getting a job making web pages for companies. html, php, JS, xml, SQL, and making it mobile friendly.

i've got all that and more, because now i've learned recursive functional languages. my language list in the resume is over ten now. that's 70% of a computer science bachelors. there's still higher algorithms, compilers, databases and operating systems where you actually make an OS with a bit of assembly starter.

i'm not bragging. i struggle. when you know 10 things you think you're smart. when you learn 100, you realize there are 10,000. when you learn 1000, you realize there are a million. don't start with "college programming degree" and can't find a job. it should be easy to get 100k to start if you have a CS BS.

Yeah I can tell by your spelling retard

I applied to Canadian Forces... its a fucking joke. Everyone there acted like they work at some random office, no discipline, no structure like you would expect from military. I applied after my Bach., they had a questionnaire about drugs- its was a retarded one, so i filled it out honestly stating i used weed about 800 times in last 10years. They kept loosing that form 3 times- 3 fucking times this is how desperate they are for people, after i did 2 assessments they offered me any position they had available, and I did not take their tests seriously neither, but I doubt the scores had any meaning anyway... ended up continuing till i get my Msc. during which my step-brother graduated from Basic. The graduation was a joke- fucking US girl scouts have more intimidating uniforms and are prob more synchronized. Everyone I talked to about military despites them and most said that only people that don;t belong in society go there... i don't think i need to say i decided not to enroll.
regarding my step-bro, he got some aero-tech position that he apparently loves, but it took few rounds of anti depressants and sleep meds for him to fully enjoy it... he also failed few math courses in high school.

What's wrong with my spelling? Maybe instead of spewing white-noise you explained your point, or maybe the lack of it.

>Everything Iknow is self thought.

He doesn't need to explain anything.

For my part, I'm 30 years old and one of my biggest life regrets is not having served. If I could be 23 again, I would go for it. .

whats with this guy? what are you doing with your life?

the military turns you into a low-iq retarded ape.
source: currently in military.

bro you have a college degree you can go in as a officer and your 23.....trust me joining the military would be the best decision of your life.

Not much, just how I like it. Retired at 30 and living on a farm shooting coyotes.

Nothings really wrong with me, I've never been diagnosed with anything.

Currently serving CAF member here. We joke nonstop about people like you, who take one glance and try their best to come up with excuses to justify their internal cowardice.

If you have any questions about our army, fire it up, and I'll answer as best as I can. Been serving in the infantry for the past 5 years, hopefully I can help answer a few of your questions.

The pay is good, really fucking good, and once you're dialled into the benefits, they're competitive with most officeplaces.
Corporal pay is around 60k~annually, so, after 4 years in, you're well above the national average. Live like a prince if you're posted out east, best to live on base in major cities, or out west.

For culture, it really varies trade to trade, unit to unit, but, once you get through basic, you think differently, and challenges for most people seem piecemeal to you.
I have a set of friends I can, and have called at 4am, asking for help, and they've answered.
I'm also set up to retire by the time I'm 38, so, hey!

whats your mos?

Do it faggot join the army of your 1st world country and go kill some sand niggers you are gonna have fun

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Your military dosen't fight for Canada; it fights for the Jews

Awesome, a few things I've been wondering about is who gets deployed overseas and who doesn't? Of course they need engineers, and cooks in warzones too but do we have a say in the matter?

Also heard a story from a friend and wasn't sure if it was at all credible. He told me about a squad that was made up of almost entirely of cooks because they were so short on men. Every position has a chance of fighting is that correct? If it is, what are the chances of them actually sending something like an engineer or a type of doctor out to the front lines?

Same here. But I don't think it's too late...the navy and army have an age limit of 34-35

Out of curiosity what was your reason for not joining when you were younger?

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>We joke nonstop about people like you, who take one glance and try their best to come up with excuses to justify their internal cowardice.
w/e makes you feel good about it man, but don't lie to yourself since CAF are not exactly dangerous, unless you are in SF.

So, first and foremost, your trade largely dictates what you'll be doing if and when you deploy.
There's an easy way to distinguish trades amongst branches, and it's worth noting, if you're not combat arms, there's next to no chance of you actually seeing combat. Every single CAF member is trained as a rifleman and a soldier, in the event they need to fend for themselves. But no one, NOOOO ONE is ordering cooks to go outside the wire.
We're having a hard time finding combat tours for combat arms right now. Everyone is itching for a deployment.
And when deployments are run, for example, there's always some wiggle-room for when a unit is expected to be seeing combat. They'll overstock pre-deployment training, so that way they can fail the lowest common denominator.
Basically, if you don't want to go, you can just merit at the bottom, or openly state that you do not intend to deploy.

To simply answer your question: cooks will not see combat. Everyone does not stand a chance of fighting. I know guys who went over to fight in a war, and ended up being posted a company quarters in a fucking barber shop.

Doctors will not go out on the front lines.
Moreover, Canada isn't even at war right now. I bet that story about a section of cooks was on an exercise, or a course, or within the base proper.

If you don't want to see combat, don't go combat arms.
If you maybe want to see combat, try combat arms and see how you feel, and you can always opt out/release. (It's a volunteer army.)
If you definitely want to see combat, go infantry and try for specops.

If you're just looking for a career, join up, knuckle under through basic, and then specialise in a job. There ARE office jobs that need to exist within the CAF. Plus, you have spec pay, which I believe varies based on speciality.

Does that help at all? Any other questions?

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Just join. It'll make a man out of you, or you'll break down and commit suicide. Either way it's a win win.

>Does that help at all? Any other questions?
kek CAF recruiters browse Yea Forums for potential candidates... how fucking desperate are you people?

Dont throw your life away on the military. There's way cooler shit to do in the private sector.

Not so sure about Canadian military, did a training op with them for rim pac. They dont seem too different from us army. As a marine i tend to look down on anyone from any other branch of service, even if they could probably kick my ass.
My suggestion to you, because you're college educated in computers is either navy or air force.
Us air force seems to operate more like a business then a military force in my opinion. Military life isn't bad if you can get used to it, getting along with your fellow marines/soldiers/sqids/chairmen isn't difficult because everyone of your peers basically is going through the same things you are so you will have that in common with everyone.
If you do join just remember dont do anything stupid on liberty that will get the weekend canked for the rest of your buddies and you'll do fine.

If I was a CAF recruiter, I'd hardly be able to string a fucking sentence together.
I'm just a lurker, helping out a Yea Forumsro. Currently jacking off to big tiddy asian porn, so. Getting two birds stoned at once.

Unrelated, I'm the same age as OP. Turned 23 last month, and yeah, I don't regret joining up for a moment. Gave me a sense of confidence, helps me fuck bitches, and I have a shitton of stories at parties.

>Not joining the coast guard
>Not joining the branch that has the highest retention rate
>Not doing your 4 years while farting around on the governments dime in other countries and chilling on a boat

What in the fuck are you anons even doing?

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Yea that definitely helps, thanks. I want to contact a recruiter just to see what positions I already qualify for and what I can get in school for. Maybe an officer if there's paid education programs for that? I honestly don't even know what officers do though they're just what so many people have suggesting.

>Army is where the great unwashed go
former Army here. I know great unwashed is just an expression but in some cases it's the literal truth.

It's in the name, "Office-r". They tend to handle more of the administrative side of things, which has either a plus or a negative, depending on your perspective. There's a lot of time spent indoors, working on paperwork, sorting out your subordinates.

Typical school reimbursement is 2k a year, for 4 years, for a max of 8k. UNLESS the CAF has a special program for your special trade they're interested in.
If you want your current education to get grandfathered in, ask about a PLAR. (Prior Learning Assessment and Recognition). It's what they use for comparable skills in the civilian world. Like if you're an underwater welder and want to weld on ships, or some shit like that.

if you dont mind a few years of really well practiced brainwashing, then you can go see combat. and if you dont bleed to death fighting for a cause that you dont fully understand, then you get to live with the memory of watching your friends do just that.

nobody i know has come out sane.
my friends just keep od'ing on h.
and blowing their brains out.
it sucks.

but i mean you get to shoot kebabs.

Been in the Caf for about a year and a half now. It's honestly an amazing time, I've met great people and have friends from all over the country now. I'm gonna leave after my initial contract is over because i'm stuck in a shitty trade in a shitty unit with a CoC who could care less about the troops wellbeing. If you join you'll have a good go bud, the benefits and time off are well worth the dumbshit you'll have to put up with.