Daily reminder:
Sex is easy.
Whatever gender you are, it's easy to make sex happen. Men and women both are equally desperate to have sex.
And if you're having trouble than you are genetically inferior. Potential romantic partners can sense this.
You are genetically inferior. Face it. Accept it. come to terms with it.
If you want to explore how to fight this, I can help.
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t. 30yo who just had sex for the first time
you bothered to comment. talk about your situation. honestly, what do you think is your issue?
For me my problem is that I’m legit to shy to go for the final approach, I’m like 7/10 so bad looking isn’t the problem and breaking the ice etc is no problem as well but when it comes to getting into intimate relations I’m just a fucking looser
Im not user but will talk about my situation, even though i know how to actually fix it but im to lazy to do it.
I just dont have enough confidence in myself, i find hard and cringy to talk with a woman, its strange, i give a good first impression but then i dont continue the work, i dont like to chat with them on messenger with emotes and that shit.
Im a little bit fat, have man tits (fucking hate this, i know that if i did not had them i would be the fucking king of pussy).
but then again i have seen fat poor ugly fuckers with 7/10 and 8/10. I just want to give some love man, not even sex.
yeah but see, being shy is a real detriment. it's something that can be passed down and inhibit future offspring from successfully mating.
lacking confidence is also something that has a potential genetic component to it. or you could actually be a really good judge and have just the right amount of confidence in yourself. it's hard for people to ascertain that at first glance.
sex is too easy - far too easy to get lost in doing nothing more than squishing your bits with someone else and lose sight of personal goals and ambitions and before you know it youre tied down and filled with regrets at a life not lived because you were too busy chasing tail.
I dont say this as someone whos bitter becasue they cant get laid at all - I say it as someone who has had their 30th creep up on them way too quickly and realised that my life is nowhere near the point I want it due to focusing my time and emotional energy on over half a dozen relationships in the last 8years
rise above it - be strong put personal development first
Well yeah I know being shy is a detriment but I don’t rly know how to fix it. And even tho it got better than when I was in puberty I still struggle with it, to the point where I turn down girls even tho they are clearly interested in me. Also I fucking suck at texting so yeah
strive to be happy. if sex is a component of being happy, as it is with most people, then you need it. if not, then chances are you are a genetic deviant there too. enjoyment of sex is what's kept this species around.
and conversely worrying abuot what your legacy will look like is silly. once you're dead, you'll never worry about such petty bullshit again.
Soo he...was behind that...
This is me.
Thanks user. Bro hug for that.
>genetics
This nigga’s been redpilled. You’re not wrong about men and women both wanting to bang.
However, you have to consider that women typically face far more risk fucking randos.
all behavior is a reflection of genetic markers. it's how genes express themselves and can be selected for (usually unconsciously)
if you truly are born shy (and not shaped by past behavior like negative reinforcement or learned helplessness) then you have two options
1 - fake it and "pretend" to not be shy
2 - put yourself around women who are too forward. in terms of social advance, not necessarily sexually promiscuous. balance is usally sought after
I dont see it as genetic but more because of the circustances of my childhood, i had a great childhood dont get me wrong, but lets say my family travelled a lot, like a fucking lot, so everytime we moved out i had to make new friends and meet new people but everytime i moved out again i would spend 2-4 months playing videogames in my room without actual friends to play or people to talk until school started and i meet new people to the point to hang out.
I still dont think is genetic because my dad is a ladies man,and his dad IS a ladies man and my granddad was a ladies man too.
Im the different one basically, also i dont like things most people enjoy, lets say people like to go to parties and drink, i prefeer a nice dinner in a fancy restaurant and a great conversation.
Not OP, but you sound young and not as experienced? I mean, I used to think the same way 15 years ago. Then I went to a rager, got fucked up and smoked some pot.
Then I realized I liked parties and hoes at said parties. I’m a shy guy too btw. So far only good piece of advice OP’s given is to BS not being shy.
it isn't always exactly like your father is, otherwise there'd be no people around ever with these types of problems. you're not a clone of your father. you're a combination of your father and your mother.
plus genetics are expressed as a reaction to experience, obviously. so someone without your genetic predisposition would come through your childhood experiences differently.
Yeah. can someone explain this shit to me? Happens almost every fucking time I match with a 7 or above. She'll sound excited then completely stops responding.
oh I enjoy it, I enjoy it waaay too much ;) to the point of persuing it above other aspects of my life.
i think you were talking to another dude. sorry.
Now, no response for over 30 hours. Didn't even get her number.
everyting should be balanced.
i've never understood how so many of my friends have so much trouble having sex. sex is the easy part, making a long term relationship work, now that is the hard part. Women like men, JUST ACT LIKE A MAN. I think "incels" just choose to act like women or children. and that's why they fail.
if you are a man, then fucking act like one. then next thing you know everyday women in your life will be attracted to you.
IT IS NOT HARD.
hahahahaha
true, women face a lot more risk. no doubt. it's part of what makes them more desperate for "normal" interaction than what they should be under the circumstances.
i don't think they choose to. that's the point of my post. they are driven by their genetic flaws to behave in a way that women simply find undesirable. many pretty boys have behavior problems but some women overlook it and still have sex with them, in the same way men do pretty but useless women.
im 23 yo, i feel like my time is running out and that im wasting my young blood on stupid shit but still to lazy to fix it because i dont see the crystal clear way ahead.
yeah i remebered now, some time ago a did read something about it, it was about how genetics makes adoption a hard work and a lotery basically.
yeah you re completely right.
How to fight genetics then? what would you do or what have you done?
Incels have the problem of being pieces of shit. I’ve seen fatter guys than me be dating (and presumably banging) some cute girls out there.
I’m 27 myself, I totally get the fear of the hazy road ahead. But that’s just life, man.
You need to figure out a way to balance your flaws. so if you are unsocial figure out how to hang around with women who are, or who perceive themselves as, "too social". that can mean different things and isn't necessarily sexual. maybe shoot for woimen with large extended families or gravitate toward groups where women who are extra-social will hang out.
where do you live? I would head to a town close by where people who live there never leave that town. make sure it's far enough away so that you'll be an outsider.
It is better to follow the supply and demand model. Go to where your chubby/awkward/short self will be seen as favorable because there's just not that many guys around.
Genetic inferiority is a very washed-out term. If you reproduce, then you're genetically successful. A gorilla is physically superior to a rat, but if a rat has sex and produces offspring which survives and gorilla has none despite copious amounts of copulation, then Harambe can't hope for much other that a few tasteful memes.
The real questions are:
>If your personality is your only true asset, how do you compete with other men where you live? >
What do women look for from men where you live?
Both answers will vary based on where you are.
Having answered the previous question, can you move to where you will be more likely to attract someone based on your limited personal resources (looks, finances, personality, potential, etc.)?
>If yes, then congratulations, just do some research and good luck.
>If not, then settle in and get used to being an incel is a small space.
nah, it isn't a matter of logic. you can't compare monkeys and rats. the idea is dumb
it sounds like you're trying to rationalize your shitty genetics. and that's ok. do what you need to do to keep yourself going.
Glad to see the summer has already started.
Keep going = Jesus is the answer = Believe in yourself = Empty platitudes that don't offer any solid strategies towards a tangible solution
Although, by all means, please keep following your own advice.
believing in yourself is useless and jesus has been dead for 2000 years. there are no strategies. your genetic defects are stopping you from getting laid and with good reason. stop trying to help these genetic defects - like yourself - with your bullshit suggestions.
is this a joke?
This is useless trite nonsense. Your father doing this bullshit is likely why you have the problems you do.
Don't change yourself to try and trick women into thinking you're not really like you are. Look for ways to compensate for your genetic defects that don't involve tricking people.
Then*
indeed, thank you.
Alright, well I hope this was a little helpful at least.
Biggest question though lads. The best way to meet a decent woman that isn't a slut every week at the clubs / slut on tinder. I just want to find a decent woman with a bit of respect for herself tbh. One that isn't a complete whore. Gf material, not just smash and pass type
Vagina is rape.
#traps4life
#metoo
it's so difficult to tell if a woman is a slut or not. appearances don't always indicate. it's too easy for a woman to pretend.
Made me actually laugh user, thanks for that, I actually needed a laugh today
Sex is over rated. I'd rather lay on my ass and drink beer than exert myself
True that user, the ones that even portray themselves as 'innocent' on tinder I found to be complete sluts anyway, that's when I stopped using tinder to try and find a decent one. Hoping to find one another 'normal' way
Honestly the few times ive had sex have been pretty meh, you unless you care for the person and it means something your better off just masturbating. That way you KNOW what feels good to you.
yep, and i think potential partners can tell that about you.
not desiring sex is a BIG genetic defect when it comes to survival strategy.
oh i desire sex, im just left feeling meh afterwords like i could have done something more important with my time
Doubt it. I never leave my place except for work and food.
*than
*inferior
Please don't reproduce, you illiterate lowlife.
Kinda fucked up calling ace people “defective” tbh.
Except for fags, that is a mental disorder. And I’m not talking about gays either.
ha ha too late fag
if you're not getting laid, there's a reason and it's related to generics and if that not having an option to pass your genes on (even if you choose not to) isn't defective i don't know what its.
lots of spelling and grammar errrors, suck it
what does the t. mean?
it means you need to stop posting and lurk moar faggot
>its easy
>except when its not
>accept it, dont fight it
>lets fight it
yes OP, great message, reading you loud and clear...
as someone who gets laid regularly, i would love to punch your fucking lights out, OP. For the fucking arrogance and dismissiveness.
it's easy if you're not a genetic dead end. if it isn't easy, you are one. simple enough for you?
yeah uh huh. sure you do.
never said it wasnt.
just that you're an over simplifier, which tells me u dont actually understand the situation.
(plus you contradict yourself with "Just accept your fate" phrasing, followed by, lets fight against it!)
No matter how much of a sexual dead end you are, you can "fight against it", but even more so if you're a straight man.
A sexual dead end female doesnt "have" to fight against it, since very little effort can still get her somewhere.
An A+ 10/10 guy still has to put in more effort than a F 1/10 girl.
There's no two ways around that. The fact you dont understand this, suggests to me your advice is probably wrong. (But then again, you can be wrong about one thing, yet be right about another thing.)
men and women have the exact same problems getting laid. they have to put in the same effort. you're just blinded by observation bias.
you can "fight" against it but not by pretending to be something you're not. that';s why you're like you are. you need to offset your genetic deficiencies not disguise them.
Getting laid is a choice, dude. Asexuals aren’t attracted to anyone and can choose to not have sex, like most normal people.
Idk what your obsession with genetics is but it doesn’t sound healthy. Some folks wanna fuck, some don’t. Help the people that want to fuck but don’t judge the ones who don’t.
>blinded by observation bias.
you're assuming im going off of anecdotal evidence, when i no longer am.
Im going by scientific information, most of which is taboo, because it suggests a difference in the way men and women think.
once i put THAT into practice, I found women flocked to me much more. (I also have to pretend to be something Im not, and Im not down for that.)
Men and Women have unique differences, and are attracted to different things, otherwise they would be attracted to the same gender/bi.
There is a difference, saying its the same tells me you dont understand what each has to go through.
asexuals don't choose. they have desite for sex which is a solidly genetic defect, obviously.
everything comes down to genetic markers for behavioral reaction to situations. that's a fact.
it doesn't matter WHAT people are attracted to, that changes with situations and also is driven by its own set of genetic markers. even within men, for example, what they're attracted to varies across a wide spectrum and yes some men are attracted to the same things that some women are attracted to even if both are straight. there is overlap.
Nooo, everything you’re saying is patently misguided. Is asexuality a defect? More of a mutation I think, you’re born that way. Aces can choose to have or not have sex and sex can generally be anything that brings your sexual pleasure.
It’s not *only* PiV sex.
what you're attracted to isn't something you can choose. you can choose to ignore it and go after the types of women you think you should or whatever, but it doens't change the fact that you're attracted to something else.
yes, clearly asexuality is a genetic dead end. there is much less of a chance of having your genes passed on.
that doesn't mean it's good or bad on a day to day basis. many people would be much better off being asexual.
you'd be correct that womens attractions are influenced by others opinions, and their surroundings.
but men are far less effected by their surroundings and others opinions.
you're only half right.
but u cant MAKE a woman attracted to a genetic dead end, w/o putting in effort to MAKE it happen.
in short, you are the one actively doing something about it.
What makes a "genetically better man" a better man, is how they MAKE things happen.
these traits can be commonly found in people with certain phsyical traits, which is one of many reasons why those traits are liked.
but there's not a single physical trait a man can have, that over 40% of women will agree they like.
(The only traits men can have, that more than 40% of women can agree to like, are usually clothes/behaviors)
over 75% of men will agree that they like certain phsyical traits, and it transcends cultures/exposures, and counter exposures.
Showing that its genetic.
for most men this is true.
for most women its not true.
there's still exceptions, but most women who dont find a guy attractive, will suddenly find him attractive if other women say he is attractive.
studies with animals, such as fish, show female fish "fish porn" where only the males with poor genetics are getting laid, and the female fish will suddenly start having sex with the genetically inferior males.
generalizing all men is just as dumb as lumping men in with all women. there is a wide spectrum and attraction varies widely within gender too.
>most women who dont find a guy attractive, will suddenly find him attractive if other women say he is attractive.
this happens with men too it's just that men don't rely on whether or not other men say she is attractive. men have other means of determining it.
>over 40% of women will agree they like.
what people SAY they're attracted to and what they actually are, are two different things
think of it this way. men will often find a woman unattractive if other men say she isn't.
>giving a rough estimate is generalizing, even though it shows the percentage of men that arent covered by the percentage
you tried to equate 2 different things, and made sure to be extra vague on the 2nd, so its not as noticeable that you did this, so you can backpedal/goalpost shift, if need be.
honestly a good point, something most tests cant really check for, or at least i couldnt think of a way to do so, if its possible.
I was fucking a lot in high school and then depression kicked in and I started banging dope so now I have 0% interest in any type of relationship that isn't getting super fucked up all the time and I'm not talking about drinking a fifth or rolling. I'm just kind of waiting til something better motivates me to change my life
not unless they specify she has a feature they dislike.
which isnt the same as a woman saying she likes or dislikes a man w/o saying "why"
you get drastically different results if the person does or does not say why.
you're comparing 2 different scenarios, writing them as if the same, and not knowing what happened.
(Or you're using anecdotal evidence)
>men are far less effected by their surroundings and others opinions.
this is what you said. first of all, where does this data come from? what studies? is it just asking the men? if not, how do we gauge this reaction? how do we measure it in the field?
it's a dumb generalization.
>not unless they specify she has a feature they dislike.
you're making it seem like all men acts this way and all women do not. i question how you came to this conclusion.
im too lazy to get u the the direct links to the studies, so instead ill link you to someoneelse who has a lot of that info collected.
youtube.com
not that you'd watch hours of videos to find it, just as i wont spend hours trying to sort out the bias studies, just to share em for ya.
yeah no thanks. a youtube video is worse than no source at all.
Looks like it's winding down. Thanks for the conversation this morning.