Hi - I almost transitioned, but after many years of research and personal reflection...

Hi - I almost transitioned, but after many years of research and personal reflection, I believe I've come to my conclusion. I would like to share my ideas

For starters, I was on T Blockers for a number of years before I turned around.

>Fear of Yourself
one of the most common things you can find in somebody is that they don't fully agree with/love themselves. Ask anyone, and they'll probably tell you all about how they're not perfect. Imperfections are natural. I believe that this is the main "cause" of the trans movement: a refusal, an ignorance of self love. To realize what you are in all its glory, and Love that idea until the end of time.

When I look back into my own life, I see this, too. I hated myself, and still do on most days. I had many reasons to fear my masculinity, and to deny it and shy from it due to my upbringing.

Because I hated myself, it was easier to become somebody else entirely. I wanted to escape, not heal.

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>Societal Expectations
You have hobbies, you have interests, you have family values and community customs. You have people urging you to be 'something' every waking day. Nearly every piece of media that crosses your eyes or your ears has a reference of what you 'should be'

It's easy to fall into a box. I grew up with largely 'feminine' interests, and because of that, felt I had to take other actions to cement my role as a female in society. It made sense to carry through on this pattern, willingly opting out of things because they were "masculine", and forcing myself onto a one way path.

It has become even more difficult now with communities full of people promoting the changing of bodies through surgery and hrt. This leads into my next theory

>Social Isolationism

a new-aged faith, as I see it. The cult-like worship of doing nothing but sitting inside and playing games and consuming media. NEETs, etc. Humans are inherently social creatures. If you deny yourself friends, family, activities, nature; life - then you deny yourself of essential resources. You deteriorate.

To become feminine, for me, was a release. It was a means to be desired by others, to feel sexy, to feel wanted. It got me so much attention, and so much of the wrong intention, too.

When you spend years in a dark room playing video games, you will seek any path available if it leads you to the comfort of others. As far as feminity goes, we all find it generally more comforting. the mothers spirit.

When I locked myself away, that's when my changing accelerated

good thread =)

went through a very similar experience. Good to see that you came to the same conclusion :)

>Trans Community
I have yet to meet a trans person who isn't suffering from serious mental health complications that need healing as opposed to nurturing the escape. In my time spent with this community, I have never been able to retain one as a friend. This is of course anecdotal, but the most common sense I get from them is desperation. all of them that i know personally are into societies darker paths - heroin, thievery, self mutilation, and no close friends.

When you hate yourself - when you wish to run away from who you are - why should others feel differently? Why would they stay and be your friend if you refuse to be your own friend?

How can you love somebody else if you do not understand how to love yourself?

thank you Anons. I fear speaking out because the gut-like reaction of our culture is "if you speak against trans, you are a terrible person"

this is dangerous and removes all area of discussion on proxy of "it's bad just because". If we are unable to question something, it will begin to control us. I fear that these questions make the trans community afraid, because they are valid questions in a culture that fears inner-reflection.

I almost destroyed my body. My one and only beautiful host. I mourn for those who have gone so far as to permanently remove their genitals, a vital area of natural energy... and for what? fantasy?

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This guy gits it

>Far Fetched Theories
These are some ideas that I've come across in my time studying myself. I believe they relate, in some way, to the trans phenomenon, but please take these with a grain of salt.

-Androgyny is the "perfected being". When the Moon and Sun meet (solar eclipse), we can 'see God'. As somebody greatly suffering as I see most trans people doing, i find the similarity eerie. To become closer to the perfected being is to become closer to Divinity, to solace, to the suffering finally ending

-The feminine spirit is said to nurture. This ideology is prevalent in native American culture, especially. The feminine spirit is one of healing, and of growth. The mother, the Life bringer, the flower. If somebody was to experience great suffering in their life, they may seek out the feminine spirit.

-Feminism.
More than ever have our genders become separated, hateful, and feared. We are seeing one team pit against the other. MGTOW, Feminism, Incels and Volcels - you name it - there's an archetype for every type of prejudice against another group of people, wielded all too often as weapons.

please take your horny brains somewhere else

>an actually good thread on Yea Forums

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Good thread.

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>cont.

-Fatherhood.
Are you close to your father? does he hug you, or express that he cares? Or is he silent and unmoving around affection? Our fathers, and their fathers, and I'm sure many before them, were never given an opportunity to show love and care. An emotional man is a weak man, so we thought, and as we see the effects of generations upon generations of fathers playing a silent roll in raising their children, we see how damning it can become. A father who fears emotions will teach his son the same. A father who does not show affection cannot teach affection. Providing financial gain for a family sadly does not constitute as raising a child.

Fathers, please be present in your child's life, in as many ways as you can. To grow up without this role is a near surefire path to finding masculinity undesirable.

-"correct" language.
forcing gender pronouns upon people is harmful. To tell somebody that they must change all that they've learned for the comfort of a select few, or face repurcussions, is dangerous. If you do not call me she/her, I will be upset. I will make it a big deal. I will pressure you to change the very way that you speak so that I may feel comfort. It would be much harder for me to find comfort in myself, therefore, the burden is now your own.
Words are a powerful thing. The words we use on ourselves, and others, echo for a lifetime. Most of my trans aquaintances have pushed their friends away because they forced an instant name change and gender change. I was spoken to by some of their friends who expressed concern. They had known Jack for 12+ years growing up, and suddenly he was Jill. If they called him "he", or Jack, it was like pissing on his mother's grave

We are trying our best to change our language for your sake.. what have you been trying to do for yourself?

Gladly, if you'll kindly give a butt pic to leave with.

No

Thank you anons. If we want to heal, we have to do it together. Hating trans people and mocking them will cause cognitive dissonance and likely further push them into the idea.

I don't even want to call this an illness - I believe it is a cultural fault. We are going in a dangerous direction as a species. There are so many factors to having a person feel the honest need to change into the opposite sex.

They're no more sick in the head than we are. We all have the power to educate, to explore, and to speak.

I have a really nice ass, too.
Would you anons like to contribute to the thread at all?

i'm reading
don't die on me, damn it

any tips on learning to love yourself? because i hate everything about myself..

This is a really good read, i'm reaching the same conclusion and it's killing me.

Thanks

Well thought out and worth a bump

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Not really. I could, but I don't really want to.
I wore a dress yesterday and felt like shit for the rest of the day. Whenever I look at it now I feel guilt. But I keep wanting to put it on every now and then. Not really related to your weird-ass thread about gender and gender-language. I dunno, I'm just rambling. I hate this place.

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lets be honest, the LGBT+ feminist communities are extremely toxic and arrogant nowdays, this is one of the very few places you can share this without the fear of being seen as a piece of shit and/or probably doxed. quite fuckign ironic and sad.

Great thread, thanks OP. Capping for the future because every time I try to talk down a confused kid on the ledge here they just tell me to go back to /pol/.

Sounds more like a fetish over anything.
Could you go more into about the angle of unhapiness and regret in trans people, I know they have an unbelievably high suicide rate. Where do you think this comes from? Is it regret? Confusion? Or something else.
As an aside would you be able to post your testosterone blockers or something, some kind of proof is always appreciated.

>How Did you Escape?
education. self reflection. the refusal to fear what lies inside of myself. I dug deep into why i wanted to do this with my life, and the further I dug, the more I discovered about myself, and perhaps, about others. I saw the reasons that I had to hate masculinity. I saw the reasons that I had to desire the feminine spirit. I am no different than they, a vessel of countless sufferings. Save for murder, I have experienced some of the darkest things life has to offer. I wanted to escape myself, because I couldn't physical handle being me anymore. I played with name changes for a while. I had breasts. It felt like freedom.. for a time.

But the more I learned about self love, the more I realized that I was walking further from that path. If I truly loved myself, would I be changing everything I possibly could, from my pants to my name to my body? Why am I running? from what?

What is so bad about me that I need to delete the person I am?

I would like to scream this for effect: PLEASE CONTINUE EXPLORING THE FEMININE SPIRIT. It is not harmful, quite the opposite. Males especially, I encourage to tap into the female power that you all have within yourself. Your intrinsic ability to show love, compassion, care, and nurture. Masculinity only stops where you decide it to stop. The most well rounded and loved people in my life, I observe that they have chosen to balance their spirit onto both sides - and from both sides - they can listen to all.

Exploring the opposite spirit is something I wish we promoted on a larger scale. And this seems ironic to suggest, because you could argue that that is exactly what trans people are doing - exploring. But to wander is not to become lost, and should you explore too deep, without care, and without direction - you may find yourself unable to return.

That's all for now Anons. Im happy to answer questions. And please, please..

Learn to love yourself.

I appreciate your thread and you seem very emotionally charged, I would like to make one point: males can be giving and nurturing as well. It’s the human psyche, and I honestly don’t believe it has to do with being male or female. Like it or not, we all have innate desires to provide and cultivate better lives for others. Not trying to be a dick, but I think both sexes are equally capable of compassion, and to attempt to label these feeling as masculine or feminine traits is shortsighted.

Could be. I'm pretty sure I'm not trans, but I don't really think it's 100% a fetish either. I don't do it to jerk off. I want to feel cute and pretty but it doesn't work lol.
I feel bad for trannies, and when I read shit on /lgbt/ I want to give them all hugs. And I relate with a lot of their fantasies.

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It's the hardest thing I've ever tried to do, I can honestly say. There is a fear that comes with self love that I can't put my finger on. Not a fear of our safety, as most fears come, but a sort of existential fear.

My biggest recommendation is to try /everything/ that feels right. Look into different cultures. different faiths. different practices. different disciplines. Hone your body, which then hones your mind. You begin to feel what you can truly do. If you create art, you can glimpse this love. If you exercise, you can glimpse this love! Using the body and the mind to it's fullest potential is concrete proof of its Divinity and it's efficacy.

Personally, I learned the most about loving myself through zen Buddhism and the teachings within. I shyd away from the more authoritarian faiths which asked that I felt sorry for myself instead of with love.

Immerse yourself into community. Join things. Seek out new activities, groups and challenges that force you to think about life in a different eye. We reflect with others, and we build off of each other's well being. If you want to love yourself, surround yourself with those who desire the same.

Be careful of language, and of self sabotage. "I can't do that" is immediately degrading. something like "I may not be able to do this" gives you a chance. Do you want a chance? Give yourself words that evoke your healing.

It's called "spelling" for a reason. Words are magic, they are spells that sew our future

and above all; befriend each and every emotion in your head, and every dark corner until your entire body, and mind, is working as a team. Got some fucked up shit in your head? Good - shake it's hand, get to know each other.

Embrace everything that you are, and can be

What got you into the whole thing in the first place, was there a single person or event that pulled you into this whole way of thinking?
Nothing wrong with cross dressing a bit, but if you feel bad about it afterwards maybe a dress isn't the best way to do it. There are plenty of clothes that you can look good and cute in!

Posting in epic thread. Include me in screencap. Homie speaks the truth about this, had the same issues but would not go through hrt or surgery, would rather be genetic than generic. Bumping for posterity.

very nice op
very nice

It's okay to wear different clothing user. I encourage exploration, just bring a compass, too.

I still dress androgynously, myself, even though I have come to embrace my maleness.

What I needed when I was younger was a loving male figure. That is who I wish to become, so that I can do my part is ending this chain of suffering

I do love Yea Forums in that way. It is a forum with no limit, and that is a very beautiful thing when used correctly

I'm glad that my words resonated with you user

I don't want to post any personal images or info, sorry. This is a risky post for me to make already.

I believe that their suffering comes from their resistance to What Is. They create an entire identity around swimming up the steam instead of flowing calmly with it. This will take an incredible toll on the mind. You begin to lose yourself, like an illusion. You stop recognizing yourself in the mirror. When we subject ourselves to a ritualistic kind of fleeing, we invite that same principle deep into our lives. We attract what we attune ourselves to, think karma, for example. Do good deeds, good deeds come.

Run away from your entire life, and life itself will run away from you.

I truly believe that it all comes down to self reflection, to studying your inner workings, your quirks, what makes you laugh, and cry. Read yourself like a book. Turn the lens in onto itself.

That is the greatest weapon I've ever held.

I actually thought about how nice it would be if I was a girl when i was younger because i didnt really act super masculine, but i knew i couldnt change that.
seeing other people "transitioning" nowadays makes me look back and say im glad my parents are conservative christians, or id have killed myself after realizing my mistakes

Well thank you for responding in such detail, i will try to take what you said to heart.

OP was not a faggot.

I use the labels only to help categorize the discussion - I fully agree with you - humans are loving and compassionate by nature. Gender has no say in that

Empathy is one of the most common traits I noticed in my time in the community. Many many trans people, at the end of the day, just want to care. Ive often felt as though empathy was a difficult skill to hold. It's hard to care when it feels like nobody else does

It's okay to want to be cute user. Cuteness isn't defined by physical beauty. Grandma's are cute, and bunnies are cute, but one looks like a cloud mixed with candy, and the other looks like an old leathery bag mixed with an oak tree.

We still find both to be cute

Don't let the norms dictate what makes you cute. Ask yourself, first

> doesn't realize they're are people who accomplish androgyny as well as those who are born with forms of hermaphroditism. Its just that the role of sexuality is a constant battle that can deeply stress a person's consciousness like nothing else

You have to realize there are happy ending, happy fags have existed throughout time, they just do both us and themselves a favor by keeping it to themselves. Modern times have highlighted the communities because humanity as whole as become bored. Meeting some real intersex people might help you out of the shitstate of brain your in, but they're incredibly rare and really don't care to share.

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>spelling
i cri
;-; i can't spell

I've been thinking about this for a bit too and I want to ask if you agree:

So I feel people feeling the need to actually undergo transitioning is in lots of cases just linked to them feeling they can't have female traits without entirely giving up their masculinity and vice versa.
So in a way because they are yet to insecure about themselves they try to model themself after societies stereotypes of a woman or a man instead of embracing that your character and actions can be entirely independent from your gender.
This is also where I believe the recent ocurence of "nonbinary" people came from, I think they're just people who feel like the way they see themself doesn't match the societal image of a man or a woman so they wan't to identify as neither, but in actuality they could just accept that they don't have to match any societal standard to be a man or a woman, because they just are no matter how they choose to act
Of course you couldn't say any of that in public because then you'd be a big insensitive meanie, which is as you said part of the problem

I hope what I'm saying makes sense and I'm at least sort of getting my point across

I can point this back at least 12 years, for myself. It was not one event. As I mentioned above, I really believe that this is a cultural "devolution" I guess. It is a slow and seeping cause-and-effect with many many different angles.

I think worst of all was the hypersexuality present online. I wanted to be cute, and there was no shortage of information or imagery to sway that decision. I'm looking at you, Japan....

Proud of you user

Cuteness is something that's related to vulnerability
So if you feel like cute and pretty when you act or dress more feminine, that's just your perception of women or feminity in general
If you can start to see these traits in other men without interpreting them as feminine but just as what they are "cute" and "pretty" you might be able to see them in yourself without channeling feminity.
That being said there's nothing wrong with that either, the point is just that it sounds like you associate certain attributes with gender which makes you have to channel said gender to feel you can channel certain attributes

Drop Out Culture is basically just that: You see no option to fit in. The person you desire to be doesn't seem to go into any of the boxes laid out before you, so you say fuck it, and you leave. you drop out entirely from the ideas that don't include you

I guess I'm a fan of dropout culture, however, it can be a slippery slope. See: NEETs who've dropped out of most everything ;D

Find that healthy balance.

As for your first idea, about wanting to eliminate every trait possible so that transitioning can occur - I can't but wonder how? I cannot remove my adams Apple, my voice, my bone structure, or my muscles. I cannot remove the body I was given and be given a new one. At the end of the day, your essence, whether male or female, will remain. But should you bury that essence underneath plastic surgery, or substances, or addictions - then you run the risk of losing yourself.

I know I keep coming back to this, but I think we'd see a world of change occur if more people learned to deeply attune to themselves. Why am I addicted? Why do I abuse drugs? Why am I trying to grow breasts?

As I clawed for those answers, the healing came to me

ok

This is well spoken. I've never considered that cuteness comes from a place of vulnerability, but when i think of all things cute.. Grandma's, bunnies, children - they're all pretty damn vulnerable

interesting. thanks user!

right ^^

I think you missed what i was saying here, you have to understand, the majority of intersex people are born with genitalia that doesn't work. Shit there have even been cases where you pretty much having nothing downthere from the getgo. Sexuality is an incredible influence to how people orient their state in society.

There are people who make a fetish of cutting their dicks off and getting the hole thats leftover fucked, They'd just rather comprehend it as more than just a fetish. Here, maybe if I switch the rolls on this, Haven't you met a good strong Dyke in your life?

I've met a few who didn't care for the stimulation of penetration, when they get their transition surgery they've pretty much permanently attached a strap-on to themselves. Its just once they don't have any boobs and they start growing a beard its easier to comprehend them as a man than it a lady. Or at least except the existence of trans/intersex.

All your really debating is how much power you think people should have over societies view on them, and I can agree with you that Society doesn't feel as though transition surgerys and treatments actually get the job done. Trans people have to accept fallout out of the easy to handle world of Boy and Girl.

this whole thread and no booty pics
fix that please

If people would accept that it's ok to be a man with feminine traits or a woman with masculine trait but still retain the man-ness or woman-ness, we wouldn't have this "I identify with one of 58 genders that doesn't relate to my genetics at all". One of my best friends is an unapologetic gay male that is very very male, and never deigned to be fem at all and takes it like a man, another friend is very very fem hetero male, and his wife of 25 years is glad he is the way he is. People are people, but don't go fucking up that with what you are born with. Learn to be happy with who you are on the inside and outside, and someone will love you as well - took me a while to figure that out.

I think we're on different pages here ^^

Again, I really don't feel comfortable commenting on intersex people. I just simply don't know

Go in any trap thread, I'm sure you'll see my butt somewhere

this is a lecture hall now user, not a brothel

It's a kink, I understand the reality.

Just want that cute butt

>this is a lecture hall now user, not a brothel
kek

Source on thread img???

Wow, a actual serious thread that made me comment. Gj user, hopefully your body will adjust/revert to something close to bio-normal and you find love. Hats off to ya.

They can actually shave adam's apples similar to jaws, you'd be impressed

But yeah I'm really happy that you seem to get me.
It also just made me think it may be a societal problem in terms of judging men for acting feminine and vice versa.
So to avoid being judged by others for acting feminine a man might transition to present as female so he can act and live as feminine as he want's while still being accepted by society.
The same logic could also apply to judgment by oneself, as in overcoming the discrepancy between how they physically are and how they feel they should be.

thank you for a good thread op
and the real talk about traps/trans people

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Good words user

I think the good thing is that this whole gender discourse with all the made up genders and such hasn't and hopefully also never will reach the mainstream is because the majority of people in fact do just accept themselves.
Because frankly to come up with all of this, which can be interpreted as a form of escapism, you need some serious time and energy to invest into the community circlejerking this and most people just have an actual life and job, maybe even family to take care of, so they just get over themselves and call it a day instead of indulging in these ideas

Interesting tbh. Sort of a NEET effect, but lgbt style. this would ring true in my experience, too. I had a lot of free time to do... nothing, anything? Neetbux, no responsibilities. Just endless time

Maybe Sloth really is fucked up

There are so many people who I want to share this thread with but they are deep into the culture and I fear they would stop being my friend

I want to share my ideas without them thinking that I'm attacking who they are

Omg same, I grew up with just my mother from maybe 5 to 9 years old and then lived alone with my father until I was 18 and during that time she managed to imprint most of her charakter onto me, but also I'm very aware about it so it's okay
Whereas I'm mostly just kind of awkward around my father, I'm positive my upbringing is a major reason why I turned out the way I am

Should say I'm pretty androgynous as in people sometimes think I am a girl just from my face and long hair, even though I never actually try to look or act more feminine than I naturally am, which is still a fair bit though people tell me but it's mostly pretty subtle

>How can you love somebody else if you do not understand how to love yourself?
Can I get an AMEN?

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Lucky lucky boy, I am a huge fan of androgyny

I think that our position can be a great gift. We are so much more familiar with the female aspect, and as males, I think that is incredibly important. Now if we spend time learning to love our maleness just as much then we're bound to become pretty darn cool folk :)

To have both sides within one is, to me, perfection

amen sister

I transitioned four years ago.
I love myself, and have 0 problems accepting myself. I'm happy, am moving in with my boyfriend, and have a stable job and life.

Your experience is yours, but I would not make the mistake of saying transition = unhappiness.

anem

OP, I appreciate your experience. I'm not sure it can be generalized to others, but your story is unique, worth telling, and worth consideration.You should consider expanding this into (at least) an article or (preferably) a book detailing your experiences, your thoughts along the way, and the conclusions you reached that worked for you. That would be a very valuable contribution to society.

Your answer is not everybody's answer, but everything else you bring is incredibly valid. It should be out there.

On the topic of cold fathers:
In the 80s there was a "pedophilia epidemic" wherein the vilification of men started to really ramp up. Thousands upon thousands of false accusations happened due to greedy, spiteful women wanting full custody and to ruin the man their Chaotic Evil cores blamed for their lives not being perfect fantasies.

Most who became father from 1980 until today grew up without being allowed to challenge this. And learned to keep their heads down, not touch children, not show affection. Because they know that a simple accusation is all it takes to destroy a man.

Why do you think suicides are so absurdly skewed, even if women are twice as likely to be depressed?

Look at men from the 60s and 70s. The decades of love, opposition to war, the rejection of the paradigm. Those men are poison to the warmongers and wage-slave masters. You need to make men hard, so they can be sent to war or worked to death without going "Fuck this!"

No one cares Ivan. Your shill spam is not interesting, controversial or annoying. If this is the best Pootie-Poots can muster, the US doesn't have to worry about election interference. You vodka tards couldn't interfere with a tv signal if you smashed the antenna off the roof.

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I am just wondering, were you always certain that you were "born into the wrong body"?

Because, as I'm vaguely familiar with some of the different biological reasons for gender dysphoria, my theories all go on the basis that if you're actually let's just call it "born into the wrong body" you'll be able to tell and feel it from a very young age and in these cases transitioning will relieve your dysphoria and you'll lead a happy life afterwards.
However, I think in lots of cases young people are really just unsure about themselves and how they want to express themselves and how and if they're persona is and has to be linked to their gender, which can lead to lots of insecurities and a kind of dysphoria, but in those cases I think transitioning may not relieve those insecurities and that feeling of dysphoria may still stay

kik?

Frankly there isn't too much obvious masculinity I could think of, but also that might just be me not inherently viewing most attributes as gendered

Either way my dick and balls is all I need to appreciate my maleness, I'd say an adams apple too but I don't have that, I'd mention a prostate too but it never really did anything for me... yet? who knows

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I have a friend who transitioned. I had always thought she was a lesbian, and was surprised when she announced that she was going to transition. He did, about 5 years ago, and he's in a successful career, has a wife who is a lawyer, is a homeowner, and seems to be incredibly happy. So, it worked for him

I have a hard time understanding how you accept yourself, but don't at the same time

Accepting yourself would mean that you don't desire to change who you are, your name, your gender

I suppose it could be said that you accept that part of yourself that wishes to change, but If I had used this same thinking when I was using hard drugs I may never have escaped. I felt it was dangerous to accept it, so I accepted that it happened, and decided to move past it

That part has always fucked with me. What does it really mean to accept and love yourself? Do I accept who I am at birth, or do I accept that I can be somebody else entirely? Which is truly loving myself?

I don't know
This would destroy my social life, unfortunately. I have a lot of experience writing, too. Maybe I will consider it. I would share it as a story, not as a fact or an ultimatum

thank you user. This moves me

I had never considered that side of this. Thank you user. You are right though, all it takes is a simple accusation to ruin a man in that way. That is a very dangerous thing

Any I gotta say, the more I've learned to love myself, then less violence I participate in. I used to be a little scrapper..

I'm from the USA, sitting in the USA, posting on Yea Forums from my USA IP

weak bait, please attach a worm next time at least :(

excellent post user

wise user

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if you ask for nudes I'll report you to gabe newel

I love your ambition hahaha
You're a good egg user. Confidence is contagious

Discord Communities are very rarely something good for me. lots of aggression :s

There are only two absolutes, user:

Vodka, and the fact that there are no absolutes.

It may work for some, and if so, how could I possibly complain?

I fear for the many that I see where it is not working, and for myself

Tl;dr glad you have an outlet OP.

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Heyy! he was behind of this...?

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I'll scratch your bush if you scratch mine. Capeesh?

Implying I have any hair whatsoever down there owo

Be whatever the fuck you want to be. Let others be whatever the duck they want to be.

The only time any of this becomes unacceptable is when you use your desire to change as a substitute for any other kind of personality. Gays, be as gay as you like, but if Gay is the only thing about you, you're a turd. Trans, be a woman, but not if being a woman is the only thing about you. If Bear Grylls were a trans woman I would accept her as she is because she would be Berri Forage the survivalist before she would be Berri Forage the trans activist. When the only interesting thing about you comes out of an HRT needle, you are trash and deserve to be part of the 40%.

My $2.

I can get behind most of this. It is a dangerous thing to create your self worth out of an identity. To latch onto something so much that you can't bear to let it go

>can't Bear to let it go
Unintentional puns are the best.