RIDDLE ME THIS: If socialism works, why aren’t we using it already?

RIDDLE ME THIS: If socialism works, why aren’t we using it already?

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We are.

Socialism doesn't work.
Communism does, but true communism is almost impossible to implement

Because under capitalism, rich cunts run the government and the media, hence they have complete control to prevent it (and this is called a democracy lol)

It's hilarious she scares you NPCs this badly

not sure but most people agree dying cause you cant afford to pay a medical bill is kinda backwards

its like some peasant vs royals type of deal

Because capitalism exists to protect dynastic wealth. It keeps money in a small number of families and they squeeze society into accepting working for them or dying and there are always plenty of opportunists lined up to suck on some of that billionaire wealth to beat the rest of society into submission to the aristocracy. Feudalism never ended. And if any other country attempts it, America just invades immediately or crushes any attempt. Asking this is like asking how someone can say they can claim to be able to breath without assistance while you're holding their head underwater drowning them to death.

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Sure, kid. Keep serving me fries and whispering that through your tears.

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Not that guy, but we are using it to an extent. Public schools, parks, fire and police departments. The Trump administration’s payments to farmers who are hurt from his trade policies is socialism.

We haven't really tried real socialism yet, but if we did and it was implemented correctly, it would work in theory

To destroy the economy

We do- it’s Medicare.

You. Are. Delusional.

Well said user

A complete fucking idiot. I gave my kid an ice cream, we are socialist now. Smh

tl;dr sounds gay tho

Sure, old man. Keep on living off that social security check thinking it's not a socialist program.

We are. Virtually every functioning economy is mixed to various degrees, using both social and market solutions in tandem.

Using pure socialism or pure capitalism to try to solve everything is where you get into trouble.

It's better to think of those things as different tools to use for different situations together, as needed, in an open democratic manner, rather than as ideologies to marry yourself to. Karl Marx and Ayn Rand were both wrong.

TRIPS OF TRUTH.

Ignorance is bliss. After WW1 and then even more after WW2 - where capitalism took over the world economic model, world wide poverty went from 80%-20%. You want to go back to the 80% because you think 20% poverty is unfair,

You and all your ilk are completely retarded. Get off your ass and make yourself more marketable.

Yeah, OK, edgelord. If you really feel that way, then go fuck off and live on a completely self-sufficient homestead.

No? You're not going to? Then shut the fuck up.

We're the United States of America. We'll forever be different from Europe. I'll fight anyone who disagrees with guns and money.

>hi I have no idea what taxes are used for

user, tell me why AOC's policies wouldn't work. They sound sensible to me.

You're a dumb fucking cunt slave. You're the one who needs to leave

Fuck you my mom's gonna buy me a Baconator.

We are.

Can I bottle your anger?

not that user but you got your ass handed to you pretty good

inb4 durr the police aren't socialist

Who let the libertarian in?
You don't even know what you don't know about what happens behind to scenes to.keep this whole thing running. Your tax dollars maintain your quality of life. This shit would all come crashing down without it and you'd be begging for it back.

Instead of asking random people online, then why not try reading history, and learning common sense?

>libertardians

Without taxation and government, eventually everything will be owned by one company. Then they ironically will become the authoritarians you so despise.

Your system leads to more authorianism, not less.

social policies has nothing to do with Socialism, you dumb fuck.

Socialism is the doctrine that all means of productions is owned or controlled by the State.
(and 'means of productions' is: companies, offices, factories, farms, restaurants, servercies, etc...)

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$3.50 a bottle. I'll give you a discount if I can take 5%

No u

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We all have that the problem. Nobody realizes it. We're American citizens. The government isn't suited to make decisions for us.

no it wont, because the free market would prevent that from happening.

What you mean is a 'monopoly', and socialism is a state dictated, shortcut to State Monopoly.

Corporations use it all the time, but brainlets only seem to have an issue when socialism would be used to benefit the people too.

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>and for less
oh, honey...

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Socialism will never work in the long run due to selfish desires and a lack of just reward for work.

If a person doesn't think they are getting a fair reward for their work, they will either work less or stop work completely. And since socialism is about sharing the fruits of our labor with others, it will never work. Those that don't work or work less than others will be getting the same rewards as those that work hard. Eventually, work efficiency drops close to zero and everyone suffers a slow drawn out death.

Lame

I'd rather watch you dodge the question.
Answer it.

>The government isn't suited to make decisions for us.
Then start making the right decisions, like taxing the rich, demanding living wages, using taxes to pay for a fucking health care system. Come on, user.

The economy issues only happened in cases where it wasn't true socialism, otherwise it would have been fine

>If a person doesn't think they are getting a fair reward for their work, they will either work less or stop work completely.
You mean YOU will. Lazy fuck.

Well I'm bias, so my answer is my own and how I see life. My answer is nobody is going to tell me what to do. It should be yours too. Less government equals more freedom

Communism doesn't work. It never will. Especially in American with lazy niggers and other shitskins

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There are plenty of documented cases and papers on socialism to show it's sound, you might want to read up a little

Tell us why AOC's policies won't work, user.
You don't need to make a speech.

>Less government equals more freedom
Then you support making the private sector pay living wages so there's less government?

Go fuck yourself and make your own money. I'm not paying for other peoples fuck ups. Life is hard get used to losing and winning. I'd be more inclined to donate and help if most of my money wasn't stolen from me each paycheck

It doesn't work because you're racist?
wot

>If a person doesn't think they are getting a fair reward for their work, they will either work less or stop work completely.

This guy has never lived paycheck to paycheck.

inb4 some prattle about "shit people deserve shit pay for shit jobs" or some shit trying to say only ultra talented and/or geniuses deserve to live comfortably.

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You already are you pancake. The streets, schools, fire department, police are all paid for by tax payer money.

Yes you are. You are literally paying for others per taxation via the 16th Amendment.
If you want to pay less taxes, then you need to support mandating living wages so people have more money to save and spend.

I'm guessing you're probably 16 years old, or didn't pay attention in world history class. I'm not going to tell you what to think. You have the internet at your fingertips

>most of my money is stolen
I'd get another job lol

>I'm the boss!
>our job is to serve not rule

Hmmmmmmm

They get mad when you tell them that tho

You have to be careful. You can never defeat corruption. It's everywhere

user it's hilarious watching you dodge the question. You're that ignorant, that's why you can't offer up the answer.

punishing people who are motivated to work isn't going to help anyone. It will just make them work less and make them depressed

Just because someone has never been a nigger, that doesn’t mean we can’t make fun of them.

user, if you can't give us a reason why AOC's policies won't work, then we're going to go with what we've already decided through discussion, to implement them.
You more than had your chance to offer up an opposing view.

This isn't the America I want

This is slightly unrelated but actually really shows you exactly how the free market would work. Have a read at this article. This is what happens when you give the public total free reign over where their money goes.

Pro tip: as I said inThere are a million things you don't know about and probably wouldn't even think are important if you did that keep this entire thing running. The people are far too uninformed about anything, not even because they're dumb, but because there's a fuck tonne to know about, to ever be trusted to decide altogether where funds should go.

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Pay specific attention to #2 even though they're all relevant.
Also enjoy this libertarian short story in pic related.

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Will you work, doing exactly what you are doing now, for half the pay ??? If we raise taxes on you to give to others, its the same as you getting a pay cut for the same work. How many people will keep on doing the same thing for less pay ???

>Doesn't understand what socialism is

And you McDonalds burger flipping cunts think you deserve $15/ hour being this fucking stupid...you can't even get my order right 90% of the time.

socialism doesn't work without capitalism... yet

I do and it's under the table. circumvention. I don't lean libertarian right for nothing

Society works a lot better when we don't have right wingers screaming "socialism" at everything.

Taxation is the price you pay to live in society. Don't want taxes? I suggest you move to Somalia.

If you're depressed, get your mom to sign you up for some of her pills.

and currently there are socialists using capitalists systems to sustain them . for instance giving some crubles to the poor instead of him robbing you and causing even more harm due to assault

you don't seem to realize where money (value) is coming from.

Money is worthless when it isn't the result of work and adding value. Handing out worthless money doesn't make you rich. (ask any Zimbabwian)

Just to speak up there are some libertarians that aren't okay with state authoritarianism OR corporate authoritarianism. Left libertarianism is a rare but actual thing.

Socializing negative effects of buisness by making society bear the costs of damage for individual gains is just as bad as taking the wealth from individuals and giving it to the undeserving.

(ye the motivation of assault was for some crubles)

You should already know it though. Why do you want my bias opinion. So shit on it with your own? Hypocrite. I just want to meet in the middle. I fucking hate politics. That's why.

Too bad. Repeal the 16th Amendment. Good luck with that. Otherwise you just sound like a privileged whining faggot who benefits from the society you complain about.

Don’t like Trump? Move to Somalia.

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>rich cunts run the government and the media

Woah, cool it with the antisemitism.

/thread

Why would I have "half the pay?" People would be earning living wages.

I seriously doubt your order is wrong 90% of the time.

It won't work because of corruption in politics and elite classes. I'm pretty sure I already said this

Yes, it's because you're a bit soft in the head.

>Zimbabwe
You shitbirdtarians should move there you're so obsessed with it

Another dodge.

Like all conservative voters, user there 100% believes even a single step toward stronger social programs will instantly and irrevocably turn us into a nationwide soviet gulag struggling to support itself. You know, like Canada and Western Europe.

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Wrong. Gold is inherently full of value. A Zimbabwean with a shovel isn't.

Stop threading yourself you redddit loving homo

>Somalia
Think of what a paradise it would be by now. People have been told to move there for years.

I actually paid attention in school and got good grades. Went to college, didn't party, and learned lots. Now, that hard work is paying off for me.

You are correct that I have never lived pay check to paycheck. I made sure I wouldn't be in such a situation.

If people are willing to pay me lots for my skills and talents, why shouldn't I reap that reward ??? Why should I give any of that reward to others for more than basic support if they are in a bad situation ???

Then who is stealing all your money, user? The immigrants?

It sure does, and especially faggot ass politicians telling you what to group think like we're all children or retards. Those assholes shouldn't be telling us what to think after we debunked their propaganda bills, and msm brainwashing

What about rich individuals and corporations who end up not paying taxes, while earning their profit thanks to the infrastructure the rest of us pay for? And what do they turn around and do with that wealth? They use it to buy political influence to consolidate power to make themselves even richer. Our system is rigged and broken.

hurr durr?
hurdur

Such a faggot

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That's a bare assertion that can be ascribed to any system, user. And corruption is corruption, and can be rooted out.
Not really an explanation.

inb4 durr their not really socialist

Because socialism in Venezuela for example worked out so great

because rich people don't benefit from it, and rich people make the rules

I will answer this as soon as conservatives answer exactly when they think America was "greatest" ala MAGA.
>Protip It was probably a time when America was heavily socialist

>faggot ass politicians telling you what to group think
you have some undiagnosed paranoid js

Heh you're an idiot. Have fun being raped by your masters "the government".

He is scared that people who make 100 million a year will starve to death if they instead make 40-60 million a year.

Nothing wrong with flipping burgers.

It is one of the best education systems the US has to offer for young people, and they learn more skills then when spending a few years learning about Gender studies or intersectional fat studies for $150k

ONE BAD EXAMPLE? SERIOUSLY???

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One?
How about the ex USSR?
How about North Korea?

AOC's policies will work, just as the New Deal worked during the 1930s. It improved our country, and what's more it would have improved our country a lot more if social conservatives hadn't opposed it then.

List these policies

You do know that the richest people besides billionaires from technology are the people telling you what to think. Yeah they all government officials. Wake up

>including billionaires from tech
FTFY

user, if you want less government, then corporations need to treat workers better and obey environmental laws. But you seem to think that having neither will keep the government out. That's kind of retarded.
The Government is a Sleeping Giant that gets awakened when the private sector fucks up. You realize this, right? That's why the 16th Amendment got passed, that's why we force business to serve people of color.

Funny how the politicians make such tax laws that allows for this. Ever wonder why they passed such tax laws ???

No they won't work, because in the USA it's illegal for the government to force civilians to pay for anything they force upon you. Maybe that's why these tyrants want our guns?

to be fair, if I was making $8/hr, I wouldnt give a fuck about the accuracy of your order.

one could argue with capitalism, this should work itself out. if my order is wrong, I will stop going there. they will lose business. youd assume managers would realise this all was happening, and employ higher skilled labor for more $ to compensate.

but forcing $15 would skip all of that, but instead of helping, everything will just become more expensive, and the company would lose business anyway

Most families lose wealth within a generation or two.

Thanks. It's both though. Look up obamas late night propaganda bill

it doesn't work and we're not using it to because we need to brainwash another generation.

the zoomer-generation children will be full-blown authoritarians

70% tax on annual earnings of 11 million or more
focusing on green industry jobs
Medicaid for All

Actually the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare user. Try that one again.

I outlined why it happens in the very post you responded to.

Cause of all those other incredibly successful socialist states.

The problem with socialism is it works fine at first, and everyone thinks its amazing. You eventually run out of other peoples money though, and all of a sudden people are "corrupt" and thats why it failed.

You're so dense. It's the government at the bottom of it all. They allow them to do this shit, both sides. It's all about money. Do some research and look who's tied into everything

>Now, that hard work is paying off for me.
Cool me too, I just think that the "richest and greatest" county in the world can afford to take care of it's poorest and it's weakest. Of course people with better jobs should be payed more, you wombat, but I don't think that the people at the bottom should suffer or worry, the minimum wage in this country does not meet the current cost of living for most people within it. Living paycheck to paycheck is a real thing and assuming that everyone living in that situation is "just lazy" is, well, just lazy.

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>these tyrants want our guns?
you fucking gun nuts are so annoying
so fucking annoying
god fucking damn it someone needs to push your nose in the shit

nobody's taking your guns shithead

they pay a lot more tax in a year then you will ever do in your whole life.

Can you even do math??

If a milionare pays just 4% tax then they still pay more then you EARN in total in a year. (40000)

(btw, the main reason why you are poor is because you can't do math, so you end up with a completely wrong perception of the world.
Did you know that getting 32k/year already places you in the top 1% ?)

Zero concept of her plan. That’s what I thought.

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Yes, because of mechanisms like the Estate Tax. Which Trump wants to eliminate.

>for more than basic support if they are in a bad situation
Pretty much exactly what a higher minimum wage and socialized healthcare *IS*, you dip.

I never once payed into it. I made sure on my taxes. You try again

>Do some research
I use my copy of Atlas Shrugged as toilet paper user.

You faggots are so hellbent on envying the rich, that you do not realize that the richest people in the world are communist top head leaders

Actually those are the 3 things in her plan, user.

Adults are talking.

largest inauguration crowd, period.

Well I wanted to put two posts in one. Glad to know you're retarded, because guns weren't the issue. Just an easy target.

Soo...he was behind that!?

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>be burger
>born into poverty
>get shot by muh gunz hicks
>the private sector healthcare puts you into debt for life
the true american way

Source

this is so retarted.
Work conditions are better than ever before.
But you wouldn't know, because you never had a real job, but just complain about it to get attention.

you seem to think we're living in the 1920's while we clearly are not.

It doesn't work because some people don't want to work. That doesn't make them entitled to free money.

Be careful admitting to tax fraud on the internet... This place isn't as anonymous as you think.

So what do you think? Let's hear your opinion of the free world

Your taxes paid for it, user. Social Security. Medicaid. As long as you are an American citizen, you will pay into the programs that are enacted into law. Or expect a visit from the IRS. It sounds like you're long overdue.

What if...what if, ok ok listen, what if...there were rich people who...this is going to be hard for you...what if there were rich people who.......didn't mind increasing taxes to benefit the whole of society?

Hes not wrong you know. That's how leftists twist shit.
>look capitalism doesnt work!
There are countless examples of socialistic programs bleeding the working class dry...
>it wasn't real socialism!
Yes... yes it was.

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So you don't know what the Green New Deal and Medicaid for All is?

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Not socialism.

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I'm making you triggered as fuck for free. I don't need to collect a salary.

Which one? Last good president we had was JKF. Mob killed him now the United States is ran by the mob aka "the government"

>free money
kys

You stop using public property, then you can make an argument that you shouldn't be paying taxes.

Poor people are the ones who don't pay tax, you idiot.

>the free world
is in jeopardy as long as Drumpf is in office

Kim for xample, of course it is a shit country and all.. but imagine being him and your income is the taxes of a whole nation.... he is wealthier than your us billionaires

You literally have no source kek just repeating tweets you read from beyonce

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We were talking about Obamacare, dipshit.
Go eat your paint chips somewhere else.

You poor, boot-licking rube.

>but instead of helping, everything will just become more expensive
I know, the dense penny pincers at the top seriously would react as though this was a direct attack on their pocketbooks and not an effort to keep the bottom rungs of society stable.

Where are you from?

Rich people don't pay taxes either. They get out of it. Your point?

Stop posting trumpshit.

I never know what to think with you righties... is the economy doing well right now, or not??
It's not like trump just eliminated social security, medicare, or any other welfare program. Sure he made abortions harder to get... sure.
Have you gone out to eat lately? Shits always packed to the rim of happy middle class, even without a big tax return this year.

No they don't. This is a lie. It's like the lie about most billionaires and millionaires being "self-made". Millionaires are "self-made" from hundred thousandaires and billionaires are "self-made" from hundred millionaires. They leave that part of the story out.

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Elon Musk should be tried for treason and executed.

Nope won't change a thing. Go ahead. Nothing will change except for the narrative.

Oh dear we have upset the redditor whatever shall we do

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Trump is just a bandaid on a bullet wound. And I couldn't care less about abortion/murdering niggers

it would hurt the company. it would take 1000s of people losing their jobs before one c-suite exec loses his.

Actually once we get Trump out of office this country will finally start to move on the right track.

you blew it trumpshit
stop posting

>says the faggot pleb
Everyone when is anything knows Gambit was the best xman.

There is not a single reason or argument left to be white and on the left side of things. At ALL.

This country is over. Obama and then trump are proof of that.

Trumps inauguration crowd was the largest in history because he said it was. Period. He had the, at that time, press secretary restate that it was the largest in history. Period.

Idk man... Did you see the line up. Were in for another shit storm

Stop fucking posting you dumb phone fag

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>I was triggered that a NIGGER was elected

What are you blithering on about? I don't give a shit

I'm going with Sanders.

>doesn't understand what socialism is
I suppose you think your welfare check is paid for by corporate donations.

With who? The line up the dems are trotting out there are garbage.

Exactly why we have gotten all the good we can out of capitalism, it's ok to turn it down a bit.

More like a funnel, leading into his family's pockets.
But even he can't stop progress. You are complaining about a paper cut when the real problem is that this big bastard country is going to destroy the planet.

As long as you faggots keep voting for boomer scum who keep fucking us on their way to their graves, this country is doomed.

RIDDLE ME THIS: why is there so many political threads on Yea Forums?

If only you could close a browser...

h, do you want me gone? ^^

You can go back to trap/FB/IG/Cuck threads at any time.

It's an incredibly easy conversation to follow, user.

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You need to learn faggot.

>socialism
>Venezuela
Pick one.

Because this is the only board where decent political discussion happens. /pol/ is rampant faggotry.

Harris could be the next President, actually.

That was the Republican plan back in the day.

OP here. My mom blocked /pol/.

they'd rather pick their ass

You misunderstand. The fact that America was able to push a nigger into the office at all is proof of how far the country has fallen. It would never have been possible until it happened. I knew that Obama would be the last American president. And so far, that seems to be the case. We might get 1 more false president before the entire government collapses at this rate.

I did pick the current prime example of socialism not working out, didn't I?

She gets mopped up with her shitty record as DA in Cali also California is a fucking shithole of a state nobody wants that.

The American South soon saw to that with the Southern Strategy.

Because it's literally the only thing other than video games that zoomer's heads have been stuffed full of.

Because capitalists don't want people living a good life.

They want slaves.

>I was crushed a NIGGER got elected
it's funny you still don't see it as a victory for human rights

Honestly, at this point I'll vote for anyone who doesn't think vaccines cause autism or that the oceans are "very small"

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Try following it when 20 people are commenting on your posts

Yeah 40 million people living in this nice sunny state with all modern conveniences.
Nobody wants that.

The minimum wage was not intended to be a "living wage." Its a starting wage for new workers in the job market. Its up to the individual to better themselves so that they can earn a living. If one doesn't pay attention in school and better themselves, what skills and talents do they have to offer ??? If they don't have any skills or talents that others are willing to pay for, then too bad for them.

I don't have a prollem paying a touch more in taxes for their basic housing and basic food. Anything more than that I do have an issue with.

Nobody at the bottom in the USA is really suffering.....not compared to what people in other countries consider suffering.

You mean your buddies in the Kremlin have got a nice little character assassination scheme all cooked up and ready to go?

But hey, maybe we should all learn from socialism... look at venezuela,look at russia where the mafia rules... I am sure you are right faggot... Now say onemore thing to upset me, I dare u

Like when he hit americans with drone strikes. So much human rights. So much.

>Nobody at the bottom in the USA is really suffering.
Good. Then you don't mind giving me all your money and living on the streets you egotistical out of touch fuck.

>drone strikes
Your dumb President wants to make that shit secret user.

>implying russia is promoting capitalism
Liberals are literally losing their minds lol

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>Being this much of a liberal
Liberals don't give a shit about minorities. If they did they'd be pushing hispanics more, but they get left out in the cold even though they're about a third of the fucking country. You can see this in everything. Niggers are always pushed heavily, despite being like 12% of the country, but hispanics are mysteriously absent from the picture despite being a 1/3 of the nation. It's actually rather striking once you look for it. The reason is you get more virtue signalling points if you're a rich white liberal for shoving ugly niggers in everyone's face than mexicans or (god forbid) hispanics that look more white. It's all for show. It rings hollow, and that's why nobody but rich no-job white kids give a shit.

Kek @ this tard.
>hurr capitalisms don't wurrk
Translation:
>I don't like what he said so I'll change the subject
>durr socialism bleeds working class dry
Translation:
>I'll ignore that it's the programs that make corporations and not the ones for the workers and small businesses

Not really. Socialized med for all is not basic support.

Medical care is a commodity that's bought and sold.

You picked a prime example of a tyrannical demagogue seizing too much power after silencing his opposition and then allowing his massive greed and ignorance to mismanage the country into a massive shithole. Some communism may have been involved, but it was mostly the leadership being a bunch of money grubbing egomaniacs looking out for themselves.

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>how will this be accomplished
>magic and, like, rainbows

Harris is a threat to you and your buddies in the Kremlin user. You're starting to embarrass yourself.

Aw yeah your the trump guy. That conversation didn't really seem that interesting to me

>liberals are the racists

No.

because you can't get rid of corruption, instead you can rename it to 'lobbyism' and call it capitalism

Because US politics are a sick joke. Congressmen invest in companies and then bend over backwards to make sure those companies succeed with biased tax laws and cuts.

Don't vote at all. Voting is immoral. Consent must be withdrawn from the system.

Actually hispanics openly support the Democrats. That's why you're being this huge faggot with this embarrassing post full of buzzwords, lol

Your side has to cheat to win, user.

Boy that sounds familiar

You faking bigger idiot! Every muslim killed is good for us all, do you still not realize?

I'd shove a unicorn up your ass naysaying faggot

>basic income for lazy slobs unwilling to work
what could go wrong?

I agree. Obama may have been the first black president, but Trump is the first nigger we ever elected to the office.

Oh I know, I was 30k in medical debt before I was 22. My fault, I know, I should have been more talented and less lazy, then I would be successful.

Yeah don't vote. Let shitheads like Trump get re-elected.
I'd punch you.

>Whataboutism
Why can liberals never admit that Obama was just as shit of a president as all the others?

Oh that's right, because, again, virtue signalling. Obama is literally Jesus Christ because he was born with dark skin.

Democracy is immoral

Make sure to kill yourself when you're all done killing everyone else.

Vladimir Putin is one of the ten richest people on Earth. Yes, Russia pushes capitalism.

>you liberals never admit that Obama was a NIGGER
>a NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

nice non-sequitur user

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How much does burger king pay you

I will personally declare my little war openly here on IS and Islam. Before I make my woman wear a mask, I will kill them

If you were against Obama's dronestrikes, why did you let a President who wants to hide them from the public get elected?

>I am edgy

Because the degree of socialism thats been proposed would disrupt the status quo. Particularly it would disrupt the amount of power that oil billionaires have on us

>Socrates was edgy

He's probably #10. That faggot is getting old. Can't even ride a horse anymore.

>I am personally a faglord

I won't buy you anything if you keep swearing

you aren't him

>mental gymnastics
Libs are hysterical, this is fantastic

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I un-ironically agree. It's all been going downhill since we lost Victoria.

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Malditos estupidos. El socialismo no funciona, es una mierda. Vayan a Venezuela.
Es fácil ser socialista en un país capitalista. Idiotas

I am too rich for it. I have a reason to live. But this immigration shoit needs to stop

Yet corporations have abused minimum wage to make it the default. People born into poverty have an ever slimmer chance of escaping it. How the fuck are they supposed to "just go to school"? You are a privileged, clueless fucker.

They literally are. And liberal is not a synonym for democrat. Democrats and republicans are both liberals. I think what you mean is democrats. And yes, they're fucking racist too, just in a different way. While republicans just want to get rid of non-whites, democrats want to use them to score brownie points, then fuck them in the ass at their earliest convenience and talk over them FOR them, against their wishes. You see this both in congress and all over fucking twitter. Bill Clinton was the one who did more damage to welfare than anyone, Yang is being pushed as a democrat right now heavily by shills but he's a straight fucking libertarian. Nanci Pelosi and Chuck Schumer betray their base literally every single chance they get.

People leave that state in droves how many business have bailed out? Cali is about to collapse financially. but hur dur we got sun

True socialism is impossible because people are selfish and motivated to acquire more power for themselves in any given situation. That's why none of these wanna-be egalitarian systems will never work. Fyi

1: Not all of them and
2: Who cares?

>Your side has to cheat to win, user.
My side is the elimination of human government entirely.

Drone strikes have gone way up under Trump.

>what is the national highway system
>what are national parks
On and on and on. Use your brain, kid.

He is going to get re-elected. Your party has zero cohesion. It’s all finger pointing, pearl clutching and trash posing as class.

Sorry to disappoint you. Here's something from a decade ago

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the only think you know about me is that i think democracy is immoral, which was his view as well. So for the sake of this argument I may as well be him

Actually California has gained 10 million new residents in the past 10 years.

You are a teabagger.

It literally is and a republic is the most cancerous form of """democracy""". It's literally just feudalism with a different name.

Democrats suffering the results of policies they embrace. I say let the dumb fucks in LA and SF suffer. Maybe then they'll see the errors of their ways.

>liberals are the racists

He actually was if you know anything about him in the context of the society he lived in.

saved, thanks lol

Mexicans dont count

gotta admit its hilarious that people actually believe they have 'freedom'

Pretty much everyone does it

>My side is the elimination of human government entirely.
Not possible in a country of 300 million people.

And good luck repealing the US Constitution.

>this widdle faggot doesn’t know the difference between public ops and socialism

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How to trigger a Trumptard?
>Whisper the word "socialism" in his ear
>OH MY FUCKING GOD VENEZUELA!
>Head explodes

If I do vote at all, I will ABSOLUTELY vote for donald fucking dumbshit trump, unless there's a worse candidate. Purely for accelerationist reasons. I think America has proven it was a failed experiment and it's time to be done with it.

he was edgy but not in the form implied by that user.

>republicans aren't racists, it's the dems who are

He'll get elected because of idiots like you saying this shit and then voting for him.

Companies controlling government =/= capitalism.
A true (american) capitalist system is a system that separates economy from government, except when it infringes upon the rights of the people.

>i think democracy is immoral,
I think you're autistic

You can look this shit up people are leaving that state in droves. 19 billion dollar deficit. Just wait til the teachers unions start cashing in. California is a dumpster fire.

>Companies controlling government =/= capitalism
WHAT?! this is exactly what capitalism stands for lol

>let
What power do I have to stop it other than to help collapse the government like I am right now? I'm against them and I'm against stupid rubes like you.

You said people on the bottom aren't suffering.

Give away all your money and go out and live in the street. Do it, shithead.

>Nanci Pelosi and Chuck Schumer
My party really needs them to just resign.

Woosh. People that think free college is any different from free highways are the ones that don't know tele difference, friendo. I know everyone wants to be a libertarian because it's cool, but fuck off.

You literally can't prove the 10 million who moved to CA are Mexicans.

Your side has to lie to "win."

Someone has to suffer. There is always a bottom. Don’t let it be you.

So which of his POLICIES do you support?

>I'll vote for a shithead like Trump
dumbass

You're saying they should be raking their dumpsters AND their forests?

your retort coupled with your right to vote is a perfect example why democracy is immoral.

Would you idiots even understand what mould happen if 200 million africans were given the free pass to come here like merkel did 2015? It des damage. Fuck being nice. Fuck niggers. Let them die. Thank you

>look it up
How about I look up your mom's dress faggot

California is doing fine despite your fucking lies.

poor boy

Burger King isn't paying anyone enough. That's the point. The corporate-feudalist abomination we have now must burn to the ground.

We are 10 trillion in debt and you want a new credit card. Not bright, are you?

It should be you. You're the one who thinks it's OK to be on the bottom.

And we shouldn't have to give those things money. Let the people fund the parks, schools, etc. If a farm fails, then let it fail. If a bank fails, then let it fail.

I am voting Trump

>the democrats are the racists

>Suffer

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I support the overall legacy of the Obama Years. It made this place a better country. And it would have been an even better country if idiots hadn't elected a Republican majority.

>10 million new residents
>all from south american shitholes

The argument is always 'they try to survive`... well LET US SURVIVE?

Actually you sound like you want to suppress other people's civic rights, user.
You're really a piece of garbage.

Define capitalism then because obviously I'm retarded.

Good. That way we know it's your fault if it happens.

Why even bring that up? Literally no Repub or Dem will ever lessen that number, so it doesn't matter.

There is no escape but through our enemies. They have rigged the game to maximize suffering and minimize happiness.

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they are pretty damn racist

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Your mom's basement is a shithole.

Actually liberals protect social diversity.
How does that make us "racist?"

No pukka, the democrats are dead. I am trying to show u something else

You have your head in the sand. That state is bankrupt 60K homeless crime galore shittiest schools in the nation huge bussiness packing up and leaving due to stupid high taxes. yea great fucking place cuz sun

I sense much booze

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yeah, i would scrap all the delusions your government conceived and branded them as 'civic rights', you are correct on that one.

It's more like an oligarchy with a different name but okay.

Another reason this system needs destroyed. Propaganda works far too well on the masses of idiots and melts what's supposed to pass for brains in their heads. Anything that leaves power in the hands of either the masses OR the elites is a system that cannot be allowed to exist. Humans have proven time and again they simply cannot govern themselves. So the best outcome is no government at all.