Can we take a second to seriously talk about Benoit?

Can we take a second to seriously talk about Benoit?

Was he the best technical wrestler of his time? What would have happened if he didn't use the Diving Headbutt? How was he as champion?

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Also was there EVER a better looking german suplex?

>Best technical wrestler

That's Kurt Angle

>Can we take a second to seriously talk about Benoit?
Probably not.

>Was he the best technical wrestler of his time?
No.

>What would have happened if he didn't use the Diving Headbutt?
He might have found it harder to get a good offer from WWF and jump ship. Medically, he was putting himself at a lot of risk even without the headbutt.

>How was he as champion?
Short-lived.

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him and angle, were the greatest 3 "pro wrestlers" of their time. you can toss eddie and jericho in there too, and some others that im forgetting, but in terms of workrate, Angle and Benoit just tore the fucking house down in a way that I don't think will ever be surpassed. Like, every single move they did was so fuckin crisp. I still remember the way Benoit snapped his suplexes. You could watch any match of his and still be entertained. I would tune into fucking Velocity at like 10pm on Saturdays and he would go against some random green as vegan shit rookie and still make them both look brilliant and real. I miss him so much bros, I still remember the week he died. Wrestling truly died with him

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him and angle were the greatest TWO. holy fuck i just got worked hard by arithmetic

>What would have happened if he didn't use the Diving Headbutt?
He would have destroyed his brain some other way because he idolized a psychopathic cripple to compensate for height.

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>Was he the best technical wrestler of his time?
Unironically Silver King was better

>unironic vanilla midget posting
Go get raped agian kev

I know you're a faggot because you're bringing up Silver King when Negro Casas is right there. I've seen him live at least 50 times and he blows everyone else out of the water as far as technical prowess.

>sucks at making comparisons
negro casas is also still alive, dumbshit.

He wasn't the best technical wrestler of all time, he was just straight up the best wrestler of all time. Unparalleled intensity. Never wasted a moment.

>Was he the best technical wrestler of his time?
Maybe? He crossed over with Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Kurt Angle, Dean Malenko, HBK and Chris Jericho.

I would put Bret above him but I would agree with about workrate and his ability to sell.

The Bret Hart Vs. Chris Benoit Owen Hart Tribute match is the best worked match I've ever seen. Everything in it is perfect.

Angle, Bret and Benoit are the best technical wrestlers. Could easily make an argument for any of them.

>technical wrestler
This term doesn't even mean anything man

>le German suplex man
No

>best technical wrestler
lol no. Tons of Japanese pro-wrestlers were superior technical wrestlers. Even someone like Fit Finlay was a better technical wrestler.

>debating best technical wrestler

Wrestling is fake nothing is "technical"

Can we take a second to seriously talk about Benoit?
Yeah he was pretty influential in a lot of careers. MVP name dropped him when he debuted in New Japan before joining Alberto Del Rio's promotion.

Was he the best technical wrestler of his time?
Pretty damn good submission artist. From a work rate and skill perspective, he's pretty damn toe to toe with Kurt Angle. But Kurt Angle would later go on to win the IWGP.

What would have happened if he didn't use the Diving Headbutt?
Same outcome. Blame Kevin Sullivan.


How was he as champion?
Pretty damn good, considering WWF at the time kept shorting him out by giving the titles he wanted to other wrestlers, like Jericho, Angle, and who ever else was the bigger charisma draw. It took up until him being a spoiler to HHH and Shawn Michaels for WWF to treat him as something other than a cruiserweight.

But yeah, look around on youtube for several interviews. Some people believe it was a murder, other people who knew him pretty close knew he was depressed as shit, but wouldn't do what he did. Other people really believe he snapped because of how badly damaged his brain was from taking too many bumps.

Still unironically one of my favorite wrestlers though. Shame JTL won't get the dream retirement match he wanted against Pegasus Kid, one of his favorites.

>Implying Benoit didn't do it either

Dimeless midget

I think he was awesome.
He was fucked up and pain killers and shit and accidentally killed his kid while play wrestling, and his wife freaked out and he killed her too.
Then he killed himself.
I don't think he was a psycho or anything, he just got worked into a shoot.

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Chris Benoit might have been the greatest professional wrestler who ever lived.
But he murdered his family and killed himself.
There's no reason to think about him past that. End of discussion.

What an abhorent basedfaggot you are

Benoit and Angle actually had some traditional wrestling shit, like those Olympics maneuvers and crap you see them do, and they got THAT SHIT over with the crowd in fucking PPVs, so yes while I don't know if Benoit was the best of all time he certainly is up there between them at the very least.

Nancy was killed first and Daniel the next day.

>knowing this for sure
Hi Kevin.

Are you retarded?

I think Bret Hart and Dynamite kid were as good if not better

great upper midcarder who could bounce around and gel organically into any variable tag team without ever falling into irrelevancy, making him good to spice up a feud with and occasionally get a shot at the top of the card

never "the guy" for sure, but a great workhorse who never seemed forced so you kinda appreciated seeing him

in my retarded nostalgic opinion anyway

>Was he the best technical wrestler of his time?

What does that even mean?

>Wrestling is fake nothing is "technical"

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>murdered

That's a distinct legal term with a distinct meaning, you don't know what it is, and it clearly doesn't apply to anything Benoit did.

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Yeah his suplexes were mediocre, except his snap brain buster/“vertical suplex” which was GOAT.

“Technical wrestler” is just a meme that announcers use to put over baby faces, it doesn’t mean anything. You can try define it all you like but you’ll quickly realise that you’re just making shit up and you can’t get a consensus on it amongst fans. Benoit was good, but not even the best wrestler of his peers.

>Jericho
>Liger
>Ohtani
>Eddie Guerrero
>Malenko
>Sasuke
>Kanemoto

Thats not even all of his peers really and look at that fucking list. Idk if you even really rank him in the middle of those guys let alone before them.

Angle doesn’t even make top 50.

Diving headbutt is still my favorite move, especially off a ladder or cage

>mediocre

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Idk man, im starting to believe germans depend on whos taking it

That is literally the worst fucking German suplex I’ve ever seen. It’s not even a real suplex because he doesn’t use his hips as a fulcrum to tip the opponent over, getting your hips under your opponent is literally what a suplex is, it’s not a random word, it’s an actual technique with a right and wrong way to do it, the utilisation of the hips makes it a suplex, and without that, it’s more like. Lateral drop or something. All he is doing is pretending to lift this guy who is leaping through the air and falling onto his own back. Literally not even a suplex, it’s like calling a front kick a “roundhouse” because “they both kinda look like kicks”.

You clearly haven’t seen Nakajima or Ibushi deadlift someone off the floor who is sandbagging and bridge perfectly into a German suplex using actual wrestling technique.

This is embarrassing.

Seething

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Not a argument.

Gain wrestling ability.

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>Not a argument.
>Gain wrestling ability.

Go jerk it to asian men elsewhere, the big kids are talking about these suplexes

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