The post that broke Fromdrones

Radagon is just phase one of Elden Beast, who will literally run around for minutes at a time

Maliketh is easy with the Blasphemous Claw. One parry and you can get enough free hits to take away 40% of his health bar, and his parry window is massive. Malenia and Elden Beast are far worse from a design standpoint.

Didn't read. ER is perfect. 12 million sold in less than two weeks. 10/10 everywhere. For good or bad, Yea Forums literally can't stop talking about it. Shazamniggers lost. Seethe and cope.

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Elden Ring is literally a turn-based RPG. Sit around while the boss dances. Hit them during ending lag.

They give you a counter to Maliketh's horse shit though. He is a pretty poorly designed boss I agree, but I can name at least 3 worse in this game alone.

you are seething
filtered by god hand and sekiro I could guess

Again, Sekiro.

The game's bosses fundamentally work on the same logic as Elden Ring's bosses. However, the player has far more tools and overall interactivity to deal with them. Namely counters, and the boss being able to counter your counters which you then have to dodge/jump over to stagger them.

Based retard cuck-kun lmao
its not about "lemme take muh turn" Its about lacking flashy style attacks and spells yourself. Nearly every single weapon art thats neat or "cool" looking is dog shit and you cant really make use of it in 90% of situations and thats the problem. Honestly dark souls style 1 poise would fix a few of the issues, but still most bosses are just from a different genre of game all together and thats the true issue.

100% correct post. Funny how the responses are "git gut" but this is not about difficulty.
Basically the "realization you are just a slouched virgin" means that enemy design and levels and everything evolved so much while you are still a clunky moving character.
Bosses and enemies in ER are even crazier than Bloodborne so why our moveset and combat abilities are a fucking DOWNGRADE from that game?
It doesn't have to be hard. Hell i beat most of last bosses rather easily by trading hits and spamming jump attacks with heavy weapons and healing since i had a lot of flasks, but it WASN'T FUN.
Seriously, for me ER was just some kind of breaking point with the dichotomy between players and enemies. What in DeS and DaS used to be fighting old heroes past their prime but still dangerous and feeling amazing after defeating them, now is me realizing that mechanically, the player and enemies are just so fucking different it is impossible to be fun at all. At most it's a light show, a spectacle that looks good but gameplay wise, it fucking sucks because it ends up resorting to shitty cheesy tactics.

Based as fuck. Shazam trannies have the noose made, hanging from the ceiling and ready for fat neckbeard tranny neck but they cope and furiously type on Yea Forums about how elden ring should be a turn based rpg so they can delay there suicide.

Or Dark Souls fags can stop acting like using the in game mechanic of spirit ashes is cheating. Some bosses were clearly meant to have them used to split their attention

lol, dies in 2-3 Adula's Moonblade
you can even hit him in the air with them
git gud

>bloodhound step
>
Actually I'm not even gonna bother. Theres plenty of useful ashes of war. Theres guard counters. Jump attacks. Oh lemme guess?
>NO THATS CHEATING!
then suffer :)

>literally couldn't think of anything other than the most broken retarded shit in the game that trivializes any attack
lmao

You run at him for like 5 secodns while dodging a bullet hell, it isn't that bad. It's a great fight desu

quit after 50 hours since i got tired of enemies with too much health and damage
it's a shame since the world from makes are beautiful and i want to see it all but can't be arsed to grind the same boss for more than 10 minutes

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>Its about lacking flashy style attacks and spells yourself
Didn't play the game.

The game literally has items that weakens bosses.
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE GAME MECHANICS!
did you parry in sekiro?
Oh no user.....you did?
Well sorry but
You
Didnt
Beat
The
Game :)

I sure am glad I have shit taste and can just go with the flow. Fucking git gud already.

do you guys think it would be possible to mod ER to have Sekiro mechanics? and change the player model to Wolf?

>guard counters
>jump attacks
>broken

Report to your supervisor. You have not researched the material well enough to engage with the enemy. HRT grooming hypno GIF session time extended by 2 hours as punishment.

Didn't read.

>user didn't incorporate spells into his build
You can't complain the game doesn't give you cool shit to compete when you don't spec into it. Even STR chads like Radahn were leveling INT

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>Thankfully Malenia was so well done and doesn’t have the extra stupid bullshit her movements look good and make sense she is the best boss in the game
Not sure if ESL or stroke

What is it about japanese games and brainwashing retards into making excuses for shit game design?

>build revolves around trading with jump attacks, which ave huge recovery time
>tanks hits and heals
>this isnt fun
Kind of your fault their bud. It isnt that hard to dance with bosses. I can consistently land fully charged UGS heavies on Maliketh/Mohg, with some guard counters from blocking with the UGS and heavy jump attacks to close the distance. If all you do is one tactic and you aren't enjoying it, try something else maybe. I do think that Powerstanced colossals need their jump attacks tuned down a bit though.

>Bosses and enemies in ER are even crazier than Bloodborne so why our moveset and combat abilities are a fucking DOWNGRADE from that game?
How? We have jumping, guard counters, easier access to magic than ever and arts of war which are incredibly strong. We have even more control and movement than BB, this is just a straight up lie.

This is my personal favourite cope
>The bosses aren't bad because I killed them in 2 hits because I don't want to fight them

Wtf dodging his anime moves is the best part about his fight. It's actually what makes it one of the most fun endgame bosses

Amazing how designing bosses to punish panic heals and panic rolls single-handedly broke these "souls veterans".
>He r-reads my inputs! It's impossible to heal!
>He delays his a-attacks! It's impossible to time the dodge!
>He has position-dependent follow up attacks! It's impossible to find a window to attack!
Miyazaki is fucking based.

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>elden ring bosses
>crazier than bloodborne

Not even close retard, the only one who feels like a bloodborne boss is beast nigger man. Even malina isnt bloodborne tier fast

>NOO THE BOSS IS UNFAIR, I CANT ATTACK HIM
>NOO YOU ARE UNFAIR YOU DIDNT LET THE BOSS ATTACK YOU
lmao

I'm talking about bloodhound step you retard. I don't know what to say if guard attacks and jump attacks are flashy shit to you

Why don’t faggots like this go play devil may cry or something if they want to play a fast paced flashy anime sword dude who can combo nonstop?
The point is you're overcoming these god-like beings, who by all odds should demolish you but through determination the player gets through it.
It’s supposed to be a disempowerment fantasy that apexes at the end of the game flipping that around.

This has been the dominating theme of every fucking fromsoft game since demons souls besides sekiro. If you don’t like the gameplay fine, the bosses are overtuned as fuck because of spirit summons and I hate that but overall the fights are still peak gaming bosses, fromsoft is still the king in that regard and no one really comes close.

Why are people so terrified to attack bosses in the middle of their attacks? Unless you're a viglet I really don't get it.

Bloodhound step isnt even over powered or broken you massive troglodyte

>NO HE ATTACKS ME WHEN I TRY TO HEAL WHILE WE ARE BOTH IN NEUTRAL
>I HAVE TO RUN FOR 5 SECONDS! UNFORGIVABLE!
>I KEEP RUNNING AWAY FROM BOSSES AND HE KEEPS ATTACKING ME! I CANNOT CHANGE UP MY STRATEGY AND BE AGGRESSIVE!

For all the trannies in this thread, try attacking bosses mid-combo as opposed to rolling away. There are tons of opportunities to attack bosses. Just because you can't get an R1 in after every dodge you do like in older games doesn't mean the design is '''bad'''

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Even viglets can get attacks in during a boss attack string if they have half a brain and play positionally. It's an IQ problem.

That's how it was in all FS games til now, nothing to do with zelda

I just make the cheesiest build and one shot them, and when the next game counters that build I will make the next cheesiest thing possible.

Two can play that game

>Bad balancing excuses bad balancing

I literally beat Maliketh on my first fucking go during my first playthrough, I genuinely don't understand why people find him so hard. Even my brother uninstalled the game briefly because of him and he was using the fucking Mimic Tear.

who cares
all souls games are inferior to Sekiro

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Suddenly popularity and good journo reviews are relevant and an indication of a good game and definitely not cause it suits you, right?

You are retarded. I am sorry you had to find out this way.

unironically yes

>no counter arguments
I won. This discussion is now over.

You're free to do that. Miyazaki has always included training wheels for those who want them.

The blasphemous claw literally did nothing for me. He never did the attacks you could parry for me so I just had to fight him legit.
Horrible fight either way

the people who bitch about Elden ring bosses are people who try and fight bosses like its dark souls

I played through he whole game and there was no point where regular enemies were dying at more than 2 hits from my great spear or halberd. You were simply underleveled for the areas you were exploring and didn't go somewhere else.