If you are learning Japanese to play videogames, you must post in this thread

Says you. Learning a language is never a waste. If you have an interest, any interest, and want to nurture it, it's never a waste. You are allowed to just enjoy JP games and not any other JP media (although unlikely) and if that's your jam there's nothing wrong with learning Japanese for it.
Personally I live in Japan and I have plenty of other uses for Japanese every day so it doesn't apply to me, but telling others not to do it is just dumb and reeks of eternal dekinai crab bucket mentality.

I read Hanahira and I have enjoyed it

i nearly have given up because im stuck between knowing too little to understand anything i try to read and despising studying grammar guides and anki vocab decks and wanting to read instead
i dont know what to do, not knowing anything is so frustrating but i hate anki so so much

>He doesn't find intellectual stimulation in learning for the sake of learning

Go home brainlet

Im learning it to read raws of dropped manga

im going to fuck your jp gf nerd

I let my cards go for too long now I can't get back into it. I mean, I only have like 100 unseen cards but still.

Just read, ignore grammar guides and anki decks.
Grab yomichan, start reading.
You don't know something, look it up.
For grammar use bunpro.jp/grammar_points and itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/masterreference.html to look up grammar points you don't understand and then move on. You don't need to memorize them or study them, you just need to understand what the sentence you are reading means.
If it takes you longer than 20 seconds to understand a sentence (while looking it up in the links above) then move on to the next sentence.
You need to cast a wide enough net so the simplest thing you CAN understand will stick, getting stuck on stuff that is confusing or isn't immediately obvious (even after looking it up) is just counterproductive.
Learn to embrace the ambiguity and just fill in the gaps from context and intuition. Don't take language study as some kind of routine you need to follow zealously, literally just do things you enjoy and learn to be flexible.
That's all you need to do. Everything else is just extras you don't need to bother with.

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dekinai. its like trying to learn russian well enough to read brothers karamazov fluently in native russian prose. absolute madness

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> Learning a useless language to play coomer games.
lol

>Sir Gideon Ofnir, the all-knowing
>Made by a Japanese company
>Doesn't speak Japanese
What hope do you have?

>live in Japan
>retard on Yea Forums tells me Japanese is useless
okay

So you're saying you only learned Japanese to play coomer games in Japan?

I’m learning Japanese to hopefully go to Japan in a few years with my friends to be the one able to read, speak and translate for them

I've been on duolingo for seven years and don't know anything. I feel like I wasted $500

I'm still at it. In fact things have gotten easier recently, not sure why but my eyes don't glaze over long paragraphs anymore. Its pretty nice noticing small stepping stones like that.

>owarai
お好きなお笑い芸人います?

i gave up years ago
now i try and make others give up

I'm learning video games to use japanese

バナナマンめっちゃ面白い。あとオードリーの春日大好き。ダウンタウンとかに嫌われると思ったから言わんかったけど、ボケとツッコミを、因数分解して、素数に分けて、二人の個性を、掛け算して、素因数分解したあと、約分して、代数処理した後、最小公倍数を求めたあと、通分する。みたいな。

>EN: Stupid foreigner needs rape correction!

そうですか
ダウンタウン好きですね

I got my N1 in 2018 and have been living in Japan for more than a year.
Playing in Japanese hits harder and I definitely recommend studying it "just for that", as joyless fucks like this user put it.

I wouldn't recommend living in Japan forever to a westerner though, even after you make Japanese friends you'll always feel a disconnect that's hard to explain.
The only times you'll truly be able to connect with someone you'll always be able to sense that it's because they're weirdos or outside of society, so you never feel like you're finally "included", but rather that you're both outside of the circle together.

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I want to learn to read fetish porn but as soon as I coom I lose all interest in learning and quit. It's the coomer's paradox.

But I already feel disconnected in America, what will possibly change except living in a prettier country?

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At least you physically belong in America. Even if you find a gf/wife you will NEVER be Japanese and will NEVER feel at home.

I absolutely adore Japan. The cities, countryside, beaches, everything. But I only ever visit. The longing sets in

ダウンタウンとか、欽ちゃんとか、伝説と言われる人のエンタメを通ってこなかったと後悔する事が続いて、でもどこかで「今さら」なんて思ってたんだけど「今から」追いかけるのもありかも知れないな。とにかく、ダウンタウンの番組好き。
>joyless fucks
ひでぇ

>The only times you'll truly be able to connect with someone you'll always be able to sense that it's because they're weirdos or outside of society
just like anons

水曜日のダウンタウン見てますね

>even after you make Japanese friends you'll always feel a disconnect that's hard to explain.
This is because most people that move to Japan are anti-social losers who then wonder why Japan isn't fixing their depression and social anxiety and blame it on "Japanese culture" and "otherness"

Yeah I don't see it that way, I don't care about NEVER being Japanese. There's plenty of foreigners out there in Japan if I want to feel longing, it's not like it's gonna be me AND the Jabenis.

>just like anons
But it won't be because you're both into the same stuff.
People into anime, or games, or anything else you might think is your identity, already have proper circles that are part of Japanese society. Even though some hobbies may have a bad reputation as being for losers, they'll still have proper communities that "work" like normal society does.

What I mean when I say weirdos is people that live on their motorbike, or eternal job hoppers, or crazy westaphiles with few Japanese friends, or people that are otherwise "weird" in ways that will not necessarily appeal to you.
Yes, they can be really nice and interesting people, but the longer it goes on, and the more you realize that the only "true" connections you can make are with people that don't belong anywhere, the more it'll set in that you don't either.

You can stay as long as you like, but to normal people you'll never be anything more than someone that will eventually leave.

I'm extremely social, but there's no fixing the fact that coming here as an adult means lacking a gigantic shared cultural baggage that everyone else has while you don't.
I get invited to places because I'm "funny", I enjoy going out drinking with people, I participate in events and I'm part of the groups.
But I'll never be Japanese.

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もちろん見てますよ。
今のテレビ番組で水ダウ一番好き。

Why do you think you HAVE to be Japanese?
Also your coworkers inviting you to a nomikai because you're the funny foreigner seems like you're probably getting bullied to me, go seek genuine friendships, you seem like an actual loser.

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>I'm extremely social, but there's no fixing the fact that coming here as an adult means lacking a gigantic shared cultural baggage that everyone else has while you don't.
I've lived in 3 other countries before moving (permanently) to Japan. This is not a "you will never be a Japanese" thing. This is a "I'm a foreigner and didn't grow up here" thing. It's got nothing to do with Japan. It happens anywhere you go with a different culture than your home, because that's how humans are.
I have zero problems making friends here in Japan, been here for over a decade, have a wife, daughter, and an extended family I get along well with. I have made plenty of friends, just the same as I did in other places I've lived in.
The only limit is yourself and the language barrier, it's not a Japan thing.

>There's plenty of foreigners out there in Japan
A Friday out drinking with Bob from the International Relations Office is not gonna outweigh how psychologically draining it's gonna be living the other 99% of your life as a constant outsider.

>Also your coworkers inviting you to a nomikai because you're the funny foreigner
Yes dude I'm sure I'm invited to outings and mahjong in which it's just 2-3 of us because I'm a dancing monkey, great social reading right there.

>The only limit is yourself and the language barrier, it's not a Japan thing.
There's no language barrier, I've been fluent for years.
I guess it depends on the person, I just feel emotionally drained no matter how well things go.

>There's no language barrier, I've been fluent for years.
Language is not only being able to understand and speak it. It's also being able to integrate with the mannerisms, cultural baggage, expressions, jokes, references, etc. If you're an anti-social fuck who doesn't do well with people and/or people avoid because of lack of charisma or whatnot, especially in a foreign language you will simply not make it. It's not the fault of the language or the people, it's just your own limitation.
As I said, I have 0 problems with it, it's the exact same experience I've had living in any other country. Not sure if you've lived somewhere else aside from Japan or your home country, but this to me just sounds like simple "culture shock".

I just wanna say that I'm proud of myself for understanding some of the sentences written in Japanese ITT.
I will do my best to improve. Never give up, guys. We will all make it.

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I gave up after learning kana

You're literally talking out your ass, I've lived in Japan, I have friends LIVING in Japan right now and their experiences are 100% positive, not only with the locals but with other foreigners. In fact they have better lives in fucking Japan than they did in Peru, Spain, Argentina, America, etc. I'm sorry you couldn't fit in, maybe if you were a social reject in America you were one in Japan but like the other user said it's not Japan's fault lmao.

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video gaems

>living the other 99% of your life as a constant outsider.
Imagine unironically believing this, holy fuck dude you sound miserable you need to seek professional help and I mean this 100% seriously

>if you were a social reject in America you were one in Japan
I don't know how many more times I can repeat that I'm not socially excluded nor a loner in any meaning of the word.
I keep repeating that it's simply something inside me that makes me feel off, but you kneejerk in the opposite direction in a way that's truly bizarre.

Gave up a decade ago when I moved to Japan. I can hold a casual conversation and play Japanese games. As for working in a purely Japanese office, I'd prefer not -- cultural bullshit aside.

Because your moronic ass tried to paint it as if it was Japan's fault when you just (self-admittedly) admitted that it's something inside (You).

>but you kneejerk in the opposite direction in a way that's truly bizarre.
that's just every japan thread
half the posts are doomposting about how you will never fit in and moving to japan will make you die instantly from depression while the other half loudly screams that it's untrue and that they have a billion friends that moved to japan and instantly made one trillion friends and wives because cultural problems either do not exist or exclusively exist for losers

I gave up but it's on everything not just learning japanese so it's okay

ITT: White pigs LARPing from their moms' dim basements
Picrel, that's each and everyone of you

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>because cultural problems either do not exist or exclusively exist for losers
If that's your take from this conversation then you have the nuance understanding of a 5 year old retarded kid

>Learning a new language just for a one thing is such a waste.
Brainlet take. Learning a language even for no reason at all is good for your brain. Having even one reason is better.

90% of the posts is a moron sharing his miserable experience with Japan and the other 10% is debunking his claims, the problem is the morons that doompost about Japan usually try to act like they are some form of Messiah and actively try to convince anons that Japan is some sort of radiated post apocalyptic shithole where you'll instantly die if you set foot in it.

took this picture today from my mom's basement in Japan

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>"white pigs this is you"
>post green frog image
mixed signals

It's impossible to learn Japanese. Stop pretending.

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I wish I was there

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I'm learning Jap for practically everything else. Manga, anime, novels, film, conversing with friends, travel... I can't think of an untranslated game that's worth playing off the top of my head.

Does anyone else track their JP immersion hours? These are mine since last month (in hours)

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中野?

Is it as comfy as it looks? Either way, anything must be better than where I'm from.

i lern jpnese
i red gaem and bijuaru noberu
gaem n noberu maek hapi
thnk jpnese

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recommend me some japanese ps2 games. im playing the ps2 remake of DQV right nowl.

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I NEED to hatefuck her

its too hard
they should use normal letters instead of the crazy chinese shit

Yes, went on a walk from Nippori all the way to Akihabara, through Ueno park.
Today was pretty comfy yeah, a bit crowded (as usual to be honest) cause it's golden week but it was good weather and everyone was eating outside which was nice.

Nah, I haven't given up. But it's hard to say I'm learning either.

Mostly because it's been over ten years since I started learning, so these days I just play games I want to play and enjoy living here in Japan.