Elaborate. I've put it on my backlog, which means I'll probably uninstall it a year from now.
Which of the Atelier series is the most fun for a beginner...
Jeremiah White
Dylan Baker
>You could also start with Rorona or Ayesha, which are better games but less beginner-friendly (especially Rorona).
This is such a fucking stupid take. The games getting more and more dumbed down over time shouldn't make the game that was already perfectly reasonable entry point back when it came out suddenly incredibly daunting instead. It's like you people think Pokemon's ever increasing hand holding is actually a good thing.
Julian Ross
unlocking catalysts also lets you choose to add restricted panels, which block off some spots but let you make items with stronger effects. Also as you progress you get better assist skills as well.
I don't really understand how you could think ryza's alchemy isn't simple when you can just max out any item with item rebuild
Robert Jenkins
You unlock restricted panels and catalysts. The former blocks out some of the panels in the synthesis grid and adds one more level to each effect while catalysts are modifiers with a variety of effects such as increasing the size of the grid to 7x7, letting you add components on top of other components without sinking the ones below, giving you extra points to the effects for each links between components you create and so on. You also unlock more features as you increase friendship levels with party members such as the possibility to change the element of already placed components upon making 5 and 7 links of one element and adding an additional material mid-synthesis upon making 10 links. It's one of the deepest alchemy systems in the series.
Asher Collins
>incredibly daunting
I never said or even implied this. Rorona's time limits tend to filter newcomers judging by previous threads. Ayesha's is a lot more lenient but I still think a newbie would be better off learning the conventions of the series in a game without the limits.
Josiah Howard
Are there any that are at least as good as the Mana Khemia entries?
Levi Bell
>Rorona's time limits tend to filter newcomers judging by previous threads
It's not a problem for Persona and Persona's time limits are far more strict than any Atelier post-Gramnad.
Brandon Rogers
Persona is a completely different type of game.
Jace Johnson
Yeah, all of them
Juan Sanders
Played Escha to Logy and Atelier Iris. They're both shit in comparison.