Total War: Warhammer 3

April 2022... I am forgotten......

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CA really fucked this one up.

>copy paste the same game 3 times over 5 years
>still charge $80 each for each game
>need all 3 games to be able to play everything
and they wonder why everyone still just plays Shogun 2 or Medieval 2

6 YEARS FOR AN UNFINISHED MOD

>and they wonder why everyone still just plays Shogun2 or Med2
They don't though. They played TWW2 Mortal Empires. TWW3 launched in a pitiful state and lacked the core feature of TWW2 that everyone enjoyed, knowing that everyone wanted it because it was already in development.

How much of it was the buggy/shitty campaign, and how much is people being over Total War? You have Rome 2, Attila, 3K to an extent, ToB and Troy all being lackluster as fuck and even WH1 to an extent was pretty shit with how god awful so many factions were in hindsight
>Greenskins needed to build a T3 building to even start their tech tree and had units behind tech tree

Like it launches, campaign isn't shit and it runs as-good as WH2 which still isn't amazing, I don't think people would have creamed their pants.

a bunch of factions from the bottom of the spinoff bin. 1 and 2 were great and fun, but even in 2 it felt like they had already run out of the good factions (tomb kings and rats were okay). I just never gave a shit about 3 when it was announced and I've seen nothing to change that opinion after release.
Now do a 40k one.

Frankly, Shogun 2 unit roster sucks ass.
It's always just 1-2 unique units you can use. The only "good" part of the game is probably about "sword vs rifles" meme, mostly unseen in other Total War titles.

Is he based or cringe

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It's 110% the buggy and unfinished launch with a shit, poorly designed and anti-fun campaign.

We just want immortal empires

They waited too long to turn the mod workshop on, and they still refuse to give any expectation as to when Immortal Empires will be. Or even shit like the Blood DLC. At least with the mod workshop now being on we are seeing more people coming back to play, but it is hilariously telling how bad they fucked up the Realm campaign when the most subscribed mod is one that turns that off.

i am not sure what CA is doing, but they are not handling WH3 nearly as well as they did WH2
is there an "A Team" over there that put WH2 together and is now working on something else, meanwhile their "B Team" was tasked with cobbling together WH3 and keeps fucking things up?

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Compare how often WH2 was patched post-launch compared to WH3, for example.

I already beat 5 campaigns on L/VH difficulties. Not interested in the remaining campaigns, and I likely won't boot it up till the combined campaign map comes back on.
>caring about player numbers in a singleplayer game
Just lmao

Both.

>is there an "A Team" over there that put WH2 together and is now working on something else
Absolutely yes, they have announced before WH3 even had a release date that their next mainline fantasy title began production.

oh, well that explains a lot then
they clearly gave WH2 to some of their less competent staff and this is the result

Bringe? Crased?

>April 202(3)... I am abandoned......

*WH3, fuck

Ever since CA expanded they became hyper ultra corporative as fuck. They MUST release yearly products and they WILL abandon it the moment it doesn't make them money no matter if it was the best selling title in the franchise, and all while sending every youtuber under the sun an NDA to play their products and do free advertisement for them.

This company hit lightning in a bottle with Warhammer, but it will not last like this.

>$80 for each game
$200 each maybe. If you wait for sales.

If anything we actually want the B Team handling the game now since they are the ones that would have done the DLC for TWW2, which is when that game finally came into its own and they have a better grasp of what actually makes for interesting gameplay and mechanics. There is pretty much no salvaging the Realm campaign at this point so they need to give up on doing that instead focus on getting Immortal Empires up and running. As well as getting the Chaos Dwarf DLC ready to go. Alternatively the Warriors of Chaos/Norsca update/DLC would also be welcome.

>Shogun 2 unit roster sucks ass.
cuz its a civil war, dumbo
Shogun nails the aesthetic too.
Warhammer's campaign map is so fucking cluttered you cant see fucking anything

im just waiting for the merged campaign is all, then ill give it like a 1000 hours

I played 2 in 2017 and played it on and off since then and I feel like tw warhammer is really played out, nothing in the new game really feels all that new to me but maybe people that have played tw for 10+ years are used to the slow changing

The A Team is the more competent coding team and the ones that had to do the major updates. Like when the turn ends got fixed up back during TWW2. That being said they are still only CA level competent which is to say not very. The problem is that they can't design for shit compared to the stuff that was being done in the later half of TWW2.

I'm enjoying my time with it; not sure what people expected though; the name of these games is a shit launch followed by improvements over the following months and years. However, Immortal Empires should have been out by now, and should absolutely at the very least have a release date.

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Just waiting for him to snap and have another based rant. Shame he went full shill mode pre-launch however.

Anyone familiar with the series was fully expecting a clusterfuck of a release which wasn't a surprise. The major gripes were mod workshop not being turned on a week after launch like with TWW2, and zero expectation set for Immortal Empires. Doesn't matter when IM will be released as long as they set an expectation. Really stupid of them not to since releasing that will also sell the previous 2 games and DLC again.

Yeah I can't help but feel TW is just stagnant and this was the perfect storm for people to drop it. Minimal campaign map mechanics, can't send small armies out, can't build watch towers, as big as the maps are the next settlement is 2 turns away max, battles are extremely simple always have been.

The fact that they don't even have the dumb blood DLC up yet is fucking ridiculous.

I think its because its coming with a ton of sync'd animations again, because its been datamined already, so they need to do sync animations from new to new, and new to old factions. Plus just launching blood DLC in the middle of a drought will probably make people pissed off

>over a month
>still no blood dlc
Yea nah, the dipped out around the realease of three kingdoms. TW 3 was probably released only because they had to release something because of some contract they had with GW

>2 months out
>No roadmap
>No blood DLC
>Not even a peep about IE
>Only one patch addressing a few of the concerns and leaving modders to fix their fuckup for them.
I tested the game out through gamepass because I know it would be a fuckup but I didn't think it would be this bad.

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His tierlist videos are good, but I hate the way he plays the game.

As cool as sync kills were it was very justifiable to drop them given how much time and resources they take up for relatively small gain. All that makes me think is that they ran out of stuff for the animators to do.

Imagine having an opinion this wrong. Shogun 2 and FOTS are the last good Total War games.

>small gain
Making everyone who bought WH buy that DLC pack is probably not that small. Some people won't buy lord packs, and race packs, if they don't plan on using them. Everyone wants the blood pack atleast.
The games are great, but the sieges, naval battles are shit plus the unit roster really is lame as fuck. Factions don't have enough mechanics to make you really not just use the same shit for the most part.

sync animations for monsters fighting monsters was in base WH2 not the blood DLC

>Game is buggy as fuck and a lot of things are still broken
>6 races but only ogre & thenotchinese are not shit
>No eternal empire

See you in 3 years for 5 bucks

The majority will get the Blood DLC by legacy means from having it in TWW1 or TWW2. It won't make them that much money compared to a proper DLC. The last time we got a lot of sync kills was because the animators fought for it and more or less had to do them outside of their regular work schedule. Don't get me wrong I do like them but it is a very justified removal due to all the various combinations of kills that could potentially be done and the amount of time it takes to animate even a single one.

I'd play it, but too busy playing elden ring and it had weird performance issues on launch (worse than elden ring, somehow)

Wasted all that dev time on a shitty campaign that literally nobody wanted. Game is perpetually in a beta state and I highly doubt that we will get IE within a year, if ever.

Waiting for it to be fixed up and the games to be stitched together. Probably be a couple of years.

Who the fuck makes a tutorial for the third game of a trilogy?

Reddit had a big melt down (again) today actually because how bad the NO NEWS has gotten.
Every single, and I mean every single dedicated TW E-celeb and shill has officially run out of shit, and most have moved to other shit. Even Legendoftotalwar is on skyrim right now.
CA had to damage control, and in typical fashion, wrote a fucking paragraph of nothing that only made people more mad.
No news this week, and very unlikely next week.
Why must we suffer like this?

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>paying 60$ for an early access beta
>for the third time in a row
WHY are warhammerfags like this?

>There's never been a better time to start than with Mass Effect 3!

Although I was actually talking about the entire Souls campaign or whatever the fuck it is called.

Just stop caring about 3 for a year. It's what I'm doing. By next year it won't be "fixed", but there will at least be something relatively worth playing.

This is just Rome 2 all over again and I'm glad I didn't get suckered in totally by the hype.

Brain rot from plastic crack.

Realms of Chaos
Shit
Realm of Tzeentch
Double shit
Nurgle faction
Shit and not the good kind
Slaanesh faction
Shit
Chaos Undivided faction
Shit
Ogres locked behind day 1 DLC
Shit
Siege rework made siege battles worse than they were before
Shit
Broken AI on the battlefield
Shit
Campaign AI has to blatantly cheat to compete even with low skill players
Nothing new but shit all the same

Right now Warhammer 3 is just a massive downgrade compared to 2

Just waiting on the Immortal Campaign at this point. The campaign is OK and the changes they've made since have definitely improved things. But my god does every TWW3 faction except Khorne needs a hero unit with block army. The overworld's AI of just being a fucking pussy all the time. It's definitely "smarter" to play like that but my god is it fucking annoying to chase these fuckers around with no real chance of ever catching them. Katarine's campaign is miserable.

I warned people about this. I fucking warned people that Demons as a separate faction from Warriors of Chaos was a bad idea, and nobody listened.

They somehow managed to change the art style on the campaign map to look like dogshit mobile game garbage. It's like they tried to fuck up every positive aspect of 2. There is not a single aspect of 3 that is an improvement on 2.

Huffing glue is the real joy when building minis

>This is just Rome 2 all over again
Yep, and just like Rome 2 everything will be forgiven, and anyone not worshipping CA will be some toxic naysayer who just can't give the poor devs a break.

>even legend
He was the first to jump ship desu, which is why the reddit got so up in arms about it all.