Normal action game

Normal action game
>enemy winds up
>enemy attacks
>you can influence the enemies attack to your advantage, adding depth

Dark Souls 3
>enemy winds up
>enemy feints for 5 seconds allowing you additional hits in
>enemy attacks, no overly long combo chains that so you aren't just waiting for your "turn" to deal damage

Elden Ring
>fight begins and the enemy is already spazzing out all over the arena
>enemy can straight up animation cancel their attacks and just remove windups
>enemy throws sword in the air
>enemy catches sword in other hand
>enemy spins sword around in a circle for a few seconds
>enemy throws sword back to other hand
>immediately cancels his attack into two more attacks like he's fucking bayonetta
>instantly hits you with a random attack from his backside to punish you for rolling behind him so no more openings
>throws a flurry of projectiles to punish you for rolling away
>hits you with an AOE attack to punish you for rolling toward him
>enemy jumps in the air for 50 more variations of an AoE, flipping in the air doing 360° noscopes, flails around like he just got a dose of heroin, does 10 different cartwheels in a row, and finally stops attacking for a rare move that has an opening
>then proceeds to continue 10 different combos for 5 more moves
>and all you can do against this while they act like shonen anime characters is just wait around dodge-rolling

What the fuck went wrong with Elden Ring? How did From Software fuck up this bad? How did we go from Sekiro to this shit?

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all I see:

normal action game: easy
dark souls 3: slightly challenging
Elden ring: challenging with a wide variety of tests of reaction speed, depth and complexity.

of course Yea Forums is still crying about the difficulty of souls games in 2022

consider one of these following games OP:

Assassins creed
Far Cry 5
Horizon Forbidden West
Any Spider-man game
Agario

you're correct, the (artificial) difficulty design of ER is trash. it isn't fun to roll 15 times before you're allowed to attack once.

simply play better action games. God Hand and Nioh 2 are my favorites.

What is going on here? Why can this guy cancel out of animations by dodging? Why can he dodge the last millisecond of attacks and they clip through him with no damage? Why is he not getting staggered? Why are his iframe windows so long?

>challenging

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If you learn the hitboxes you can attack during their combos instead of waiting for them to stop attacking entirely. Hope that helps :^)

>you can attack during their combos
With a Ultra Greatsword that leaves you entirely open?

not possible for fast aggressive bosses such as in OP :)
hope you enjoy licking miyazaki's cum off the floor. I beat every other souls game and this one's almost as big of a turd as ds2.

wow you discovered summons and magic are op? First from game?

I thought you said the game was challenging

I just let Melina weaken him because I wanted to progress her quest and didn't give a fuck about another Margit fight. Genuinely surprised at how fucking annoying his moveset was. I have work and shit so it was nice beating him my second try that way, but I could tell immediately that this isn't the kind of boss I want to grind out for hours. Fuck him.

>posting a webm of morgott cleaning your cock fair and square
Margit/Morgott are the most well designed fights in ANY fromsoft game
There are plenty of terrible bossfights with bullshit mechanics but Margit is not one of them

I watched Malenia do her fucking Sephiroth Tsubame Gaeshi Form 9 Final Judgement katana folded over 10 million times attack as my game stuttered, and when I went for the punish after her final sword flash surrounded her, she casually jumped away to avoid my attack.

That right there is when I knew this game was milky dog shit. Elden Ring is a massive downgrade compared to Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, and Sekiro. This game is From Software bending over and breaking their own spine to sniff their own asshole.

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>not with greatswords
>big slow ass weapon against a fast boss
>has higher base damage than a katana
>also has added poise break potential where other smaller weapons don't
>can block more damage

Woooaaaah, you mean different weapon types have pros and cons? You mean there are trade offs to consider when it comes to your weapon selection vs a boss? Thats so unfair bro.

forgot to mention the camera spazzing out the entire time, and each attack is either a 1 or 2 shot if you don't have 60 VIG, also literally random windups, ground effects and projectiles

People really think their making a point when they post videos of them losing to the games fair bosses lol. I feel like I've lost to margott maybe 3 times in 3 playthroughs

>most well designed fights in ANY fromsoft game

>overly aggressive spastic tards in a game filled with uninteresting bosses you can't interact with outside of avoiding their attacks
No, they are shit.

>filtered
>posts moeshit reaction image
Pottery.

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How exactly are you interacting with bosses in other souls games besides attacking and dodging?

Even then he still has that dogshit attack with the sword where he becomes a big, impossible to challenge hitbox and you have to run away while he's chasing you

You're bad player trying to cope. if you hate the idea of being challenged then how about you play skyrim instead. Or at least least use cheats built into game in form of ash summons, they were made for plebs like you.

There are attacks you can jump attack over
There are attacks you can crouch attack under
There are attacks you can strafe to dodge instead of rolling, and then charge a strong attack
Sounds like a skill issue

I remember when Yea Forums complained about boss combos in ds3

Sekiro has a posture mechanics and Bloodborne has trading hits with Rally and the ability to parry any attack even from non-humanoids.

>DS2 comes out
>people complain about ds2 difficulty comparing it to ds1
>DS3 comes out
>people complain about ds3 difficulty comparing it to 1 and 2, muh bloodborne enemies
>ER comes out
>people complain about ER difficulty comparing it to 1, 2, 3, muh bloodborne enemies and sekiro bosses
The cycle continues
blatant input reading is bad though

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>Sekiro
>Carian Retaliation on a 100% physical block shield
Closet I can get to Sekiro, melee combat actually felt fun this playthrough.

all of those are only problems if you try to play it like it's DS3, thinking that rolling towards the boss is always the best strategy
it's been almost two months and shitters STILL can't wrap their heads around this

I don't know why people were pissy about Dark Souls 3 though. You can stagger enemies easily and the rolls are the fastest they've ever been. That one was an extremely weird case that I still don't understand today. I think 3 is perfect with its bosses where as ER is fucking bonkers and too ridiculous.

I got bored with timing attacks

Stack the heaviest armor and talismans, take endure on a giant weapon, do charge attacks. You can just tank all the hits.

>blatant input reading is bad
>when there's ridiculous camera, clipping, input buffering/delay/eating and balance issues.

>Panic rollers getting filtered again and again

Dark souls 2 would increase FOV when fighting big bois. Why ER cant do the same

Elden ring has magic, effective shields, summons and weapon arts. Poise is still a mechanic, just unaffected by blocking. You can also unlock bloodborne style rallying later, though its not very good.

>NOOOOO IT'S TOO HARD, MAKE IT EASY AGAIN PLEEEEEASE
lol git gud

Every other soulsborne game puts me into sleep out of boredom after Elden Ring.

>DS3
>No overly long combo
What the fuck are you on about?

it obviously is if you're using cheese tactics just to beat a boss

just cheese it with the million ways the game gives you lmao

Name a boss from 3 that actually has that. Pontiff, Nameless King, and Gael will all give you openings after a few attacks. Yes they attack multiple times in a row, but they don't keep it up forever and they let the player breathe. I want to know which fucking boss you're thinking of.

Normal action game
>enemy winds up
>enemy attacks
>you can influence the enemies attack to your advantage, adding depth

Every garbage fromsoft game
>enemy attacks
>duck
>attack

No greater gameplay complexity to be found in the dullest franchise in the history of video game franchises. Each episode following the armored warrior as he fights assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert. The Dark Souls series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the gameplay formula is good though
*ducks then punches your face*
"No!"

The games are dreadful; the combat is terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time a fight occured, the designers made you roll and attack to beat the enemy.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time a fight relied on rolling and attacking. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. FromSoftware's minds are so governed by mundane gameplay loops that they have no other style of game design. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Elden Ring. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Elden Ring at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read George R.R. Martin" And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play Soulsborne games you are, in fact, trained to read George R.R. Martin.

>can't interact with outside of avoiding their attacks
these are the same uncreative schmucks who complain that Sekiro is nothing but a L1 simulator
Experiment and adatt for once in your life, please

But ER is just DaS3 2.0?

Kill yourself, OP

Elden ring exposed Yea Forums as the shitters they've always been.

>normal action game
>copy kamiya's dogshit juggle game
>dodge until you land a hit and then do a billion combos to never let the cancer enemy recover

>*ducks then punches your face*
>"No!"
Has the same energy as
>I AM TEH PENGUIN OF DOOM
>*holds up spork*

Yeah the flurry attack is unpunishable. It's really the only boss that is legitimately unfair and stupid. If they are going to make her do that attack then at least let me punish her when I successfully dodged it
Other than that I really like the boss
What I hate about this WebM is that you clearly have a lot of openings. Morgott isn't even hard, just flashy. Besides the meme ds2 tier hitbox his hammer attack has its really fair. You only need to dodge to him instead of away from him in order to punish. Same with malenia

>animefag
>computer is shit
>playing a console game on your pc at all

Why am I not suprised

>I watched Malenia do her fucking Sephiroth Tsubame Gaeshi Form 9 Final Judgement katana folded over 10 million times attack as my game stuttered, and when I went for the punish after her final sword flash surrounded her, she casually jumped away to avoid my attack.
And you can't even do anything about it. Garbage game design.

Godskin Noble is also all kinds of fucky.

>rolls, stops on a dime and glitches back into thrusting attack, magically pops back into rolling mode
>rolls off the side and teleports back up, nothing personnel kid

The disappointing part is that spastic undodgeable boss attacks turns every boss into "rush down their HP with bleed/frost and kill them before they kill you", which is extremely underwhelming and doesn't make for memorable fights.

Fucking this.
I could do all those bosses with an ultra greatsword without having to be restricted by spamming a single move because all of them had openings.
ER ultra greatsword gameplay is poke and jump attack spam for 200 hours.

maybe its a sign that making it more hard isn't making it more fun

You forgot to put
>faggot cries like a little bitch
under both Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring.

>I don't know why people were pissy about Dark Souls 3 though

Because shit like Outrider Knights was like a tiny sampler of what we'd see in Elden Ring.

lmao nice one

The tutorial boss 2nd time you fight him, Friede, Pontiff, Abyss Watchers, Dancer, Dragonslayer Armor, Oceiros, Nameless king, Soul of cinder. Now name 1 elden ring worse in this than those I just named.

And none of those can be intuited and have to be found by trial and error.
Like in the mohg fight you can spell parry some area of effect attacks that last multiple seconds and the entire effect just vanishes like it's glitched.
>but it's magic so of course..
Plenty of magic isn't parryable. The problem is it's arbitrary.
It's so baffling that they also made Sekiro which is crystal clear about its mechanics. Not this artificial bullshit.

>ER comes out
>people suddenly act like DS3 was good
lmao

It's a copypasta user

That roll move is also quite annoying and sometimes seems to go on forever until you get hit. At least it doesn't one shot you.

>How did we go from Sekiro to this shit?
We need the S team for next game

Someone had to have written it unironically at some point.

This shit right here is why Elden ring completely fucking smokes every other souls games. Every encounter has numerous ways for melee only players to fight them. It’s funny to see the soulsniggers whine that the combat FINALLY evolved beyond “roll at right time and that’s it lmao”
>t. monster hunter fag

>DS1 and Bloodborne never comes out
>everyone suddenly loves DS3 and thinks it's the best
lmao even