Why is Yea Forums so hypocritical?

This is not a matter of opinion. It's factual.

I think when most gamers say they don't like "politics", they mean propaganda

>waaa feminism bad
have sex

>Stop politicizing games!
>w-w-what do you mean my precious MGS is politicized too? t-t-t-that doesn't count!

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>you should feel bad for being a white man, because a white man did some bad things and you look like he did. APOLOGIZE
why do wh*toids have such a massive persecution complex nowadays? It's really pathetic

I disagree again.
Video games are art.
Art is open to critique and interpretation.
The weak and over-simplified interpretations of the games in the OP picture are opinions, not facts.

So like Metal Gear's anti-war propaganda?

>why do wh*toids have such a massive persecution complex
The irony in that statement is something else

Politics are fine.

Agendas and poor characters piggy backing off of politics and good writing is embarrassing.

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maybe it's because there are people running for president on national TV publicly demanding reparations from people who did nothing wrong.

What a cowardly copout argument that you yourself don't even believe. Hypocritical too since you yourself used simplifications here .

lol prove him wrong.

>What a cowardly copout argument that you yourself don't even believe.
I'll take your lack of arguments and resorting to insults as concession.

>Hypocritical too since you yourself used simplifications here
>When you do the same thing I do, it's good when I do it and bad when you do it.
Who's the hypocrite again?

Do you not know what the word "strawman" means?

they'll say the older games did it more "subtly" but they also refuse to actually acknowledge half of those fucking points being made
i've seen people complain that outer worlds is pushing progressive shit and anti-corporation shit too hard and in the same breath say they loved new vegas, despite one of the major factions being a psychotic old-world businessman and the first human companion you recruit being a carpet-munching dyke
its becoming more obvious because these people don't seem to notice any of the messages when the game presents it subtly, like how marvel went from using the X-men as their minority allegory and just started using actual faggots and niggers, because the people they want to swallow the message they keep shitting out just ignore it and keep playing/watching/reading if they don't make it painfully obvious

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Because having cyborg woman in WW2 is moronic? We all know this to be true.

Hamfisting and shoehorning make for bad storytelling and detract from the overall enjoyment of the video game itself, on its own. Making a game for the sake of a statement, instead of making a game because it's simple entertainment, is also included in this.
Instead of telling people that you must be right, present both sides of the conflict without exaggeration, and let the person decide for themselves.

Do you?

>I'll take your lack of arguments and resorting to insults as concession.
But there's nothing to argue against? I already stated that these things are factual, meanwhile you used a copout "t-t-t-that's just your opinion" with no arguments at all.
>When you do the same thing I do, it's good when I do it and bad when you do it.
Strawman. I never said that. I called you out on your hypocrisy. Can't you read? If anything you're the one saying that, and I'm calling you out on it.

Because if they wanted to do a story about women on the battlefields of WW2 they could have done a *real* story.
You could've been a woman in the French Resistance, or a British agent working with them.
Or they could've gone a bit further from reality and had you playing a nurse at a field hospital who takes up a gun to defend her charges.
Or fucking anything.

Instead they just go YEAH WOMEN ON THE FRONT LINES OF WW2.
THIS IS A HISTORICAL GAME.
It's retarded, and it's an insult to the actual women who participated in WW2.

I'll take that as a no, then. If you knew what it meant you wouldn't have typed this .

having that shit in the games was the end of it, whereas today, it IS the game you niggerfaggot

Lol if you can't explain what or how this is a strawman you don't know what it is.

>I already stated that these things are factual
stating that something is factual doesn't make it factual

>Strawman. I never said that.
You demonstrated it by crying when you see people do the exact same thing you do. Do you think you're slick?

>there's a girl in it
>IT'S THE WHOLE GAME
kek

>they'll say the older games did it more "subtly"

Who is they? Why are you talking in an echo chamber.

>stating that something is factual doesn't make it factual
Good luck convincing people that those games aren't politicized when you actually look at the plot.
>You demonstrated it by crying when you see people do the exact same thing you do
But I never did. You on the other hand, did cry about simplifications, which is literally the whole reason I'm calling you a hypocrite.

It's not females in WWII that's the problem, if they had just said from the start that they wanted it to be an option because multiplayer is supposed to be fun and have choices and shit then it'd be fine after the initial retards blew over. Instead, DICE themselves went out of their way to antagonize people and metaphorically throw kerosene and a match into a gas leak. One dev proclaimed it was because his daughter couldn't make a female character, another prociaimed they'd be on the right side of history and that those complaining are misinformed and didn't have to buy the game if it troubled them.

The developers made the game political by being completely incompetent dipshits instead of taking a hit on the chin and admitting it was just for letting people play as they please. Nevermind the campaign story about the female resistance fighter whose story basically overwrites a real historical mission by killing the original team responsible so she and her mother could have a dramatic storyline to stop Germany from making nuclear weapons. Or framing the French Tirailleur forces as having been denied their credit, rights and respect as proper soldiers by turning it into a literal secret conspiracy by the French to deny them their achievements.

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The feminists type socialist hates us because we exposed the Quinn whore and them with GG and we hate them back for trying to fuck over our hobby. That's it. A hate/hate relationship that is never gonna reach some kind of resolution. Perpetual hate.

When people say they don’t want politics in games, they typically mean identity politics.

>poster claims I said shit that I never actually did
I do believe that's strawman, my dude.

>Halo 3
>9/11
???

>I do believe that's strawman, my dude.
explain it then lmao.

they typically mean "no non-whites or women being better at things than men"

Because its claiming historical accuracy when it denys what gender largely attended the front lines. It's feminism for the sake of marginalizing the struggles men fighting in war.
If asscreed or gaylo falsified major historical achievements due to efforts of a group I belonged to, I'd be pissed off about them too.

So you hate Diablo 2 then?

I literally just pointed it out in the post, retard. The poster claimed I said something that I never did, that's what strawman is.

so much this, being a tranny isn't politics

Why do people larp as niggers on this board?

>The poster claimed I said something that I never did, that's what strawman is.

that's not a strawman.

Dumb nigger

straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/
noun
noun: strawman

1.
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

why are niggers so retarded?

But, feminism is bad user.

SHOVING A DILDO IN YOUR ASS

IS

NOT

POLITICS

stupid trannies, I can't believe you're trying to compare a game about the crusades with fucking tranny flags in a game.

The word "politics" don't mean politics these days. The majority of the time in discussion about recent games, movies, etc, the word is said by brainlets with another conotation. Other brainlets asociate the word to this meaning and here we are.
>that is political!
>that was political too!
>NO!
>YES!
I just tend to ignore.

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>If asscreed or gaylo falsified major historical achievements
you mean like that time you beat the pope to death in a fist fight?

uh, no it isn't

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never mind the ad campaign, actual campaign, company statements and attitude, and "a girl in it" despite being a war game

I noticed the only sensible post gets ignored by the disingenuous OP.

Its not even right either, unless hes suggesting the entire campaign of Halo Combat Evolved was written, directed and coded while also being greenlit for burning and delivery to stores between september 11th and november 15th.

I wish people who didn't know what the fuck they are talking about would just off themselves.

>I don't want politics in games
This statement means that gamers don't want the final boss to be BONALD BLUMF THE NEO-NAZI FACIST DICTATOR OF AMERICA WHO IS BUILDING HIS KILL-WALL TO DESTROY ALL MINORITIES.

Gamers have no problem with politics in games that are either fantasy politics (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Final Fantasy, pretty much most games) or even ones that allude to real life events in some way. People have a problem with TRANS BLACK WOMYN DESTROYS BIGEL BARAGE THE BREXIT MONSTER because it is cringeworthy propaganda. We're talking about WATCH DAWGS 3 POST BREXIT FASCIST UK or DIVISION 2 MEXICO BUILDS A WALL TO KEEP OUT 'MURICA DRUMPF shit.

Allegories about Religion or War are not something people complain about because of how general it is. These are things that everyone can relate to and are never dated. Every game that makes overt references to Trump or Brexit are gonna be completely dated in 4-10 years, meanwhile something like Deus Ex (which is heavily political) has a timeless message that doesn't lean to one side at all and merely exposes you to information in the game world that can be related to real life.

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That's when you realize this image is being ironic. Halo started development before 9/11.

No, that's just what you think.
Having multiple colors of skin doesn't necessarily mean it's identity politics. Having them when they don't make sense is. Good thing Diablo isn't set in the real world.

Pretty sure that user means MODERN identity politics.

>Fake politics made for the narrative of the story
>Fake politics made for the narrative of the story
>Fake politics made for the narrative of the story
>Developers hamfisting their personal beliefs into the game when there is no logical reason for it in the narrative

what do you need to do to get your arm and hand to bend in such an unnatural way? Why is her forearm twice the length of her humerus?

>shoving dildos up your ass is the first thing that comes to your mind

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It's not just Yea Forums and it's not hypocrisy, it's just cognitive dissonance. It's like when people say "virtue signalling" they don't mean the act of signalling virtues, they mean they don't like left leaning things. Griping about "politics" in games is to find a safe way to express sexism, racism, etc.

this was what kept me from playing the games to be honest

I think you mean people don't want propaganda thrown into their face. I'm not paying $60 to have a game developer vomit his uninformed, shitty political opinions all over me.

I would not mind if "feminist" didn't try and actually manage to censor tons of things that i like in videogames.
fuck them and their censorship agenda honestly.

>Gamers have no problem with politics in games that are either fantasy politics
hence all the people whining about mass effect andromeda, right?

Because all /pol/ cares about is identity politics and race. It's basic "us versus them" mentality to give them a sense of belonging. As soon as they find their place in the world, the abandon these childish internet fights.

>It's a resetera thinks they can change Yea Forums into a leftist hugbox episode

This. And I think it's part of why most of Yea Forums loves the MGS series.
It's all cold war geopolitics, and the conflict between idealism and realpolitik

The examples you are posting aren't based in reality. Including a cyborg woman in a past war isn't even close to that. It seems like a non-issue.

A different proposition is not the same as misrepresenting the same proposition. I believe thats deflecting or something.

>a woman in a video game = "you are a horrible white man"
Is that how your handlers have conditioned you?

>the marketing mentioning that a girl in it means the whole game is just the girl!
kek

>Yea Forums
>some faggot on youtube
don't assume we're all this retarded/american with such an odd view of "politics"

it's the only thing the lgbt community thinks about

And they don't recognize their politics as identity politics. They go so far to say that it's a new thing invented by the left while completely giving Jim Crow a pass.

>they don't mean signalling virtues
yes, they do

I remember one of the blood relatives of knights deaths being posted on facebook. The entire feed was filled with retarded assassins creed quotes and "hurr templars bad".

I can't hate the game entirely, but the spin and community retardation is insufferable.

>no it isn't
Yes it is, feminism is nothing but a resentful and hateful movement against men. its a hate movement that has to create fake issues and problems in order to justify their own hate.

/pol/ is a reaction to identity politics being thrown into everything. Same thing with how Trump got elected. If the left would stop doubling down on this shit, pol/ would go away.

swap /pol/ for resetera and your sentence is still 100% correct

>doesn't know how to read
>is a disingenuous faggot

You're confusing the politics within the game (Something no one complained about because no one played it, aside from myself) with the politics OF the game. People called it a SJW mess, but that has nothing to do with the game's story, it has to do with the characters, writing, marketing and so on and so forth. Even so the game sucks and I really don't remember some huge backlash calling the game "political" (inb4 some youtuber with 4000 views says WOKE POLITICS MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA CLICK NOW)

What do you mean they aren't based in reality? Watchdogs 3 is about post-brexit UK becoming a facist dictatorship. Division 2 has overt references to Trump, populism, and his politics. I did not mention Battlefield in my post at all, though the marketing for that game was embarrassing.

>Animeposter

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If that were the case, they'd call people wearing MAGA hats virtue signallers. I've yet to see that happen. /pol/ meme posters aren't called virtue signallers.

Which is eactly what you're doing.

I agree with this, people are so worried that "fascism is gaining strength" and all of that, well, it's pretty easy to figure out where all this shit came from, the left is trying to reshape the entire world by force and brainwashing, of course there would be people opposing it.

Imagine pretending 90% of cries of racism, sexism, and actually getting shit fucking changed isn't from twitter journalists and that "/pol/" has any influence at all

>sense of belonging
its always "there must be a shortcoming when people disagree with me" with you retards

im sure the disproportionate people killed by niggers were just arguing with them on the internet childishly

>when it denys what gender largely attended the front lines
Are all the soldiers storming Normandy women in this game? Are there no males at all anywhere?

what is wrong with "anime"?
is that you can't control it like you do with the cucked western industry?

>Which is eactly what you're doing.

Now you're just trying to throw them out to win arguements.

Far more historically accurate than women doing anything.

>Is that how your handlers have conditioned you?
seems like you're trying to deflect.
they interviewed the devs on their decision, and they literally said that they wanted women to play their game, so they retconned history to make it more "inclusive", even though it's false.

Same shit when they made fucking female spartan warriors and greek scholars in assassins creed or whatever.
>yeah we know it's not historically accurate but history is oppressive so we're just gonna rewrite it.

>You're confusing the politics within the game
> with the politics OF the game.
Disingenuous argument. Nobody here has ever even pretended that they separate the "inside" politics with the "outside" politics.

Only in your fantasies.

I'm sure all the little girls getting raped and killed in Sweden by muslims and niggers is just /pol/ being resentful because they don't have a sense of belonging.

Holy fuck, you sound utterly pathetic. It’s time to stop posting, your suicide is long overdue. Fucking bitch beta.

this is the real answer, too bad OP will ignore it since he only wants to trigger people and doesnt actually care what the reason was

this.
I love how people are getting mad that you're saying this. Yea Forums really is too far gone at this point

If you read the books they go in depth about the covenant being a confederacy of different alien races from different homeworlds that are unified through a religious upper class of aliens called the prophets, some people have taken this as an allegory for Islam because it's a religion that spans cultures and countries and races, the argument for the allegory to me is further amplified by the fact that you play as "The Spartans" who historically fought against the persians several times throughout history most notably at the battle of thermopolae against Persian emperor who's empire once again spanned multiple countries, cultures and races but were unified in the belief that Xerxes was a literal God that had come down from heaven to dominate the world. As for me? "I leave symbols to the symbol-minded" -george carlin

So you're saying the user is a hypocrite then?

How are Gingers non-white retard?

virtue signaling they way people have recently been referring to it is "hollow" virtue signaling, i.e. speaking platitudes most agree with, but implying the other person doesn't by default

they signal a virtue in lieu of an argument. MAGA hats have nothing to do with that

It's true though. A lot of angry video game people are outcasts cloistered together in a sort of support group of edgy weirdo identity.

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What an extreme way of thinking you have. muy interesante

It's a video game and any fucktarded moron of any gender, color, or race who thinks a video game is where they should learn history needs to be dragged into the street and beaten to death with taxidermied alligators. The devs can say and do whatever the hell they want, it doesn't affect real life in the slightest.

>i-it's about equality I swear

then don't name it after exclusively females. call it "egalitarianism" if you like equality. oh, you won't? huh. it's almost as if it's not really about equality and you just use that as a cop-out.

Imagine being retarded enough to think this is why the game got so much hate.

You mean like feminism?

Mechanically the games are fine and if you start from 3 onward you can hand wave it as “2 factions of larpers pretending they’re ancient warriors” like how the KKK and Freemasons both pretend they’re Crusader knights in spite of how the have no true connection to the Crusaders and most Crusaders would probably stab them up for being heretics

>Having multiple colors of skin doesn't necessarily mean it's identity politics.
Yea Forums lost their shit at the sheer fact that the new wolfenstein games had (gasp) nazis as the enemies. Also the fact that one of your allies was a black woman.

>frog poster shitting on anime poster on a site whose first board was Yea Forums

No point trying OP, you'll always get the same responses

>it's based when based devs do it and cringe when cringe devs do it
>besides, war, regime change, and propaganda aren't politics, only bathroom privileges and immigration are politics

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PRINCE OP
FAGGOT IS HE
TRANNY-ABABWA

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The books and the games also mentino that many of those races, such as the Hunters and the Grunts, didn't join the Covenant willingly and were violently forced to join.

women are selfish.
name it "egalitarianism" and females won't be interested.
name it feminism and all females will be in, and also all the beta orbiters will support it too in the hopes of getting sex.
it really was the best way to get the most supporters possible.

"angry video game" people are as cohesive as catladys on twitter retard

this.

what do you base this off of? Some tumblr posts?
you would only say this if you are a teenager. /pol/ is nothing new. it's just zoomer expression of Republican loyalty. nothing more.

>A lot of angry video game people are outcasts cloistered together in a sort of support group of edgy weirdo identity.

If that were really true, why would you NOT want them quarantined away from the rest of society?

>Hey all the losers of the world made a secret club out in the middle of the desert where nobody can bother them.
>I got an idea, let's go break it up!

>>besides, war, regime change, and propaganda aren't politics, only bathroom privileges and immigration are politics
it's the opposite, shoving dildos in your ass isn't politics, the rest is. Putting tranny flags in video games doesn't have anything to do with politics, it's just propaganda for degeneracy.

now this is boomerposting

If that were the case, the word would hardly be used at all. Trump "virtue signals" by that definition on twitter frequently but hardly anyone throws that word at him. Why?

>suddenly changing the f-word that's been used for decades to the e-word for no reason
epib

>(gasp)
Try doing that with a mouthful of bleach next time. Don’t bother trying to think about how stupid you sound.

Yea Forums is not one person and it is not disingenuous at all. Just because the average retard on Yea Forums lacks the cognitive ability to understand how a game is marketed vs what is actually in the game doesn't mean you and I cannot.

I am pretty sure Yea Forums spent more time making fun of the E3 presentation that included a bunch of unprofessional "FUCK NAZIS. YOU GET TO KILL NAZIS. DESTROY NAZIS. DECAPITATE NAZIS. FUCK THOSE NAZIS" sort of stuff. Not to mention the word "Nazi" has lost all meaning because it has become a common label to thrown on political enemies. This is the same thing as SJW, Socialist, or Communist which is now just thrown onto someone to attempt to disable their argument. Also, again, Yea Forums is not one person and pretending they are is stupid. I, and probably you, don't care that you kill nazis in wolfenstein.