Vigilante 8 or Twisted Metal?

Carmageddon 2

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V8 was remastered, came out on the X360 as Vigilante 8: Arcade

Its fucking abysmal, physics are terrible (pull a 180 handbrake as Sid Burn and you roll the car onto its roof).

V8 because i never had a Playstation

what killed car combat?

i had all 3 growing up. where the fuck are all the car combat games now?

Fell out of fashion.

Which would win a fight?
Round 1: Sweet Tooth vs Molo
Round 2: TM2 Roster vs 2nd Offense Roster

Also when they tried to reboot Twisted Metal it was a colossal clusterfuck where the online servers didn't even work when it launched. And TM 2012 was a great game as well

Halo came out the same year as TM Black
Console FPS became actually somewhat viable and overtook car combat

Halo and CoD. They became the de-facto MP games on the Xbox and then 360/PS3. Even more so when online MP started its ascendancy, the age of couch competitive died off there and then.

Sony had a chance with their PS3 reboot; could have made it like Smash Ultimate, feature characters and levels from all the previous games, could have even hand waved it as Minion pulling drivers from alternate dimensions or time periods to make the ultimate tournament. But they went with their god awful team based shit filled with generic nobodies because they dont like money or something....

the lack of characters put me off the reboot.

I still listen to the soundtrack daily.
TM4 and Head-On to be exact.
youtube.com/watch?v=hA4VOHOH8to

To be fair, It was originally only a smaller multiplayer only project that got extra budget to do a single player mode late in the development. They didn't want to do gangs for Single player (Only online) but the budget and timeframe meant they could only do four stories (And Preachers was cut from the game). Jaffe said if they ever got a sequel they would do the characters again but the game was a massive flop and it never happened.

Why not World Tour? That had some tasty and memorable tracks.
youtube.com/watch?v=JqV9UfcHddY
While I didn't hate TM3 or 4's soundtrack, I recall they loaded both with just about every Rob Zombie song that was available at the time.

Huh, never knew. You'd think the hype from the 2010 presentation would have convinced Sony to let the game get as much time as needed so they could pack in more content.

I just love every Track in TM4 and a few in Head-On. I really love how hard some of these in TM4 go. Like Chaos, A More Violent Approach and South Central. And "Time's Running Out" is amazing. It's like the track tells a story just by itself and it also sound like nothing I've heard before. Odd but a jammer. The TM4 track just get me pumped up like no other. I just love it so much. Also those 2 TM games are the only TM games I've played.

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all these sad cats postin TM, completely missing the pure FUNK vigilante 8 had
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How's Auto Age Stand off?

Shame the game itself was pretty meh. The 989 games just lacked the grit and wit that the second had.

Based and boomerpilled.

It's still my fav one. The memories with that game are something I love so much. Amazing shit.

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Gameplay wasn't all that bad, but the character endings were just so lacking. Only remotely interesting one was the one for Sweet Tooth and Calypso, and even then, their rivalry in the game doesn't have quite as much the impact as what Head-on would do with the two getting at each other's throats.

Twisted metal black.

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Yeah I've heard. I don't give a shit about the story though because I've never found it that interesting anyways.

Hey Stampede, how about a poem?

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Twisted metal.

But the story is part of the appeal for Twisted Metal series. Heck, it was the lack of story content for the 2012 reboot that led to it not getting that great of a reception.

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As someone who doesn't play any sort of BR game, the TM franchise would be perfect for it.

WHAT IS YOUR WISH?
And how does he fuck you over?

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Fuck you, I thought there were real news in Vigilante 8 there.
I miss bringing lightning down with Slick Clyde

Agreed

So, user. Your wish was for new Twisted Metal game with more characters and vehicles than ever?

Granted, too bad it's now gacha on mobile! Ahaha!

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V8 because I'm a sucker for that 70s pastiche and music

>No V8 remasters
>Last TM was garbage
Why life so unfair bros???

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So if black takes place in marcus' head does that mean he's fucked in the head like needles?

For me, it's Dallas.

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>haven't played in 20 years
>heard the line in my head clear as day

>No V8 remasters

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You are forced into a car combat tournament with the last vehicle you rode on, a year to train, and 10,000 bucks plus whatever money you have to optimize it
How long do you last

>like needles
The fuck you mean "like needles'. Marcus IS Needles. They're not fucking brothers or some shit, one is the psychotic alter ego of the other.

No, black is how "needles" kane sees the world, a dark grim and disturbing place. When marcus is asleep needles personality takes over in the black "dream" universe, but marcus can't wake up cause needles kane suffers from insomnia. Marcus has somehow manged to become conscious in the black universe or "dream" but has barely any control as needles is more dominant. Marcus needs to hide himself from needles cause if needles learns of his him he may try to purge him which will result in him having full control and awakening in the real world as himself.

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youtu.be/HbzrtKEqK8s

this

Aside from that
How else can they fuck it up?

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Black was fucking kino.

2 and Black > V8 > other TM games

>the ambient music in that level

based

That poor schizophrenic man.

>space chimpanzee fucking shit up in a weaponized moon rover
Why hasn't this concept been done more often?

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2> 1> black> head on:extra twisted edition/lost> 2012> small brawl> 3> 4

Also Interstate.

DEATH RAY

Based

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I liked the homing missile thing

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I'm biased twoards V8 because the gbc version made my road trips much less boring and it had ok gameplay for a handheld version.

For me, It's Cel Damage

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This.

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I hope his motivation was that he came back for revenge

a real mans choice

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I always found Vigilante 8 better. It gave me a different vibe, hard to explain.

You're under arrest, Calypso.

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TM will always be cool, but V8's aesthetic is what seals the deal for me. Both really fun games though.
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So what was wrong with TM3 and 4? I stopped at 2.

If I were to wish.
"I want to be cured of all my medical conditions". Would I be fucked?

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The end

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Different dev teams.

CALYPSO
CALYPSO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

>ask him to fuck me in the ass until i die
cant fuck me over if its inevitable

Most likely, because then being cured of all your medical conditions will somehow create sort of super illness that can only activate when you're cured of all previous ones.

I see. Jews didn't do 9/11 after all.

YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF MIDTOWN CITY CODE 4432, STEP OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE AND SURRENDER PEACEFULLY!
TIMES UP!

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How is the HD rerelease?

can you dig it?

Dead?

>enjoyed Vigilante 8 as a kid
>would always try and find Vigilante 1-7 at the store
>sad I could never find them

Was I the only one?

i like em both

>Overdrive
It's casualised shit
The original one is the best

Thread theme
youtube.com/watch?v=sLFok2t605k&gl=SG&hl=en-GB

It's a piss poor excuse.
They could just redo the same old by making you through different maps against different cars, then finally show you a 5 minute story.
I doubt the 5 minutes animation gonna costs them more than making different gameplay stages for the story mode.
The director/producer simply is not thinking straight and not up to their capabilities .

Wrong one.
youtube.com/watch?v=3eIsTQIqSQQ
Yeehaw!

fpbp

Only played Vigilante 8, Cel Damage from the ones pointed out in this thread. Man those games were fun.
I played some other on N64 or DC or some shit and I remember having fun but man I can not remember it's name.

The menu theme in tm3 is a remixed version of the LA theme interestingly enough.
youtube.com/watch?v=mUMW9MTcAbw

Twisted Metal 2 was the perfect mix of Dark and Humor

TM 3/4 went waaaay to heavy on the goofy shit and Black was too serious and dark

Where does 2012 lie?

Is competitive car combat feasible?

Zoomers.

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Make place for fun

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I love twisted metal. Was one of my favorite games as a kid. That said Vigilante 8’s 70s aesthetic was superior.

I completely forgot about that game

Weirdly enough tm2012 seems to be a combination of both the black and tm2 universes.

They all came out around the same time...

Aesthetics are too different
Guest character at best

>Black was too serious and dark
Black was fucking great, yo.

twisted metal

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Even the cover art is soulless.

>doesnt take place in the summer of '92
KWAB....

RASCAL AH AH AHHHH DO IT AGAIN

What was so bad about the PS3 reboot? I played the demo and I remember kind of liking it but also not being impressed at the same time. I especially hated how you were either a clown or a dollface or whatever. The vehicles were always the characters, but it was way more interesting having unique drivers for them, even if it was just a jpeg on a character select screen in the classics.

MOLO, EVERY FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK.

ive played out of them but i've always preferred vigilant 8 2 and twisted metal head on.

>mfw

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I was a professional boxer

granted, but he has a 1 incher

i like twisted metal but i think v8 is a better game and the handling is better

That was the best car combat game and I had them all

Vigilante 8. Just a buncha cars covered in guns tearing shit up. No needs for the LOL SO WACKY LOOKS HES A CLOWN BUT HES AN EVIL CLOWN WHO LIKES GUNS bullshit.

Jak X: Combat Racing

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His shit ultimate was always so satisfying to land.

Kino.

vigilante 8 2nd offense

*paint it black starts playing*

>can't hear the menu theme
Shit taste

The fucking start of the soundtrack has local hard rock radio station vibe where they spam soundbites.

Why Sweet Tooth have burning head in TM 2012?

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He just lit it on fire and for some reason, it didn't kill him

Both. V8 Second Offence is a really complete game

>TFW Jaffe going off the deep end guarantees we'll likely get some retarded culture war shit in any future Twisted Metal media he helps make

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Such a good vehicle design, even if it isn't the typical box-truck ice cream van.

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Crossout?

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Vigilante 8 for more shit to do in general, at least for Second Offense and upgrading the vehicles.
Also all the little map hazards to mess with and weapon combos were neat. Twisted Metal 2 still has a special place for me though.

Sweet Tooth destroys Molo but V8 cars can generate earthquakes and call down lightning

Too greebly. Part of what makes TM's designs so neat is that the vehicle modifications are either subtle or blatant but not overly detailed. Chunky metal armor welded on, rebar in place of bumpers, etc., without too many extraneous little rivets, handles, latches, grates, and so on. Visual detail is given by the worn out condition of the cars themselves.

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whats he saying?

>V8 cars can generate earthquakes and call down lightning

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AXEL POWER!

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I appreciate you posting these. I always loved those selection screens.

>Stained glass windshield

Genius

So why was Rob Zombie a playable character in the 4th game?

Where is his hand?

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Jaffe was always left wing but because twitter and election and mid life crisis, its gotten worse

You're welcome.
TM:B had top tier vehicle designs.

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Black honestly lacked a lot of the dark humor and comic book feel of 1 and 2. The gameplay was absolute perfection though.

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He'll turn it into The Purge the game.

I can appreciate Black lacking in most of the humor because despite being so laughably grimdark and edgy (as we'd call it today), it took itself completely seriously and so wholeheartedly that you can't help but like it. Plus it still has its kernels of joy.
>It was the only time I'd ever knocked someone out with one punch.

You know I honestly wouldn't put it past McMahon to actually try to make a Car Combat league.

who cares? most quality game developers are left wing

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I don’t know why, but Black was always very difficult for me.

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Game ran at 60fps making it hard to predict the ai movement and react properly.

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youtube.com/watch?v=XZFc6ie5jpY
This has not aged well.

Interstate 76

>there's a wiggling body strapped in the bed of Preacher's Elco
Whoa, I never noticed that before.

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Twisted Metal 3 and 4 had awful stories.
Head On was prolly my favorite because it continued from 1 and 2 directly.
youtube.com/watch?v=BWrNUI-uu7c
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Vigilante 8 all the way. not quite as edgy, and much more funky.

Say what you will about the final product. But that E3 trailer got me hype.
youtube.com/watch?v=GFfDsIObPi0

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I heard there is secret profile picture of her.

for me its I76, the best car shooter it also has amazing OST. Fucking hell I forget the same activision created this masterpiece

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>That cheat code that zoomed in on her butt.

I feel that both are different enough to make it hard to compare them

Vigilante 8 always felt a lot more "heavy" when it comes to the way vehicles handle, and when 2nd Offense added in the upgrading stuff it even had a small amount of progression to upgrade your favorite vehicle and I would say that only comparing the Ps1 titles, I would say that Vigilante 8's special weapons were more interesting than any of the Twisted Metal games

TM is obviously the more arcade of the two series, don't need to know combos for every single weapon, just the basic ones like freeze and such, and I would say overall just more enjoyable to just play

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>Handling: TIGHT

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>No love for Carmageddon

youtube.com/watch?v=AWIc-jVwCaQ
>That time Lucasarts tried to get in on Car Combat.
Boba Fett was broken as fuck.

I prefer Ash

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Diesel Guns.

Raven was probably the most sympathetic and heroic. Aside from Outlaw.

Any news about new TM?

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Always like vigilante 8, simply because when I was kid I fucking loved garbage trucks, and the second game had a front loader.

Now I drive one, and say his line when he says his special when picking up bins.

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What about Mr. Grimm? He just wanted revenge on the guy who FUCKED UP HIS FACE

That's no face you're thinking of.

projectv8.co.uk/

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Oh, shit. Yeah, it is. Sorry. Raven is still more heroic though, going off what Harbor City says of her post-Black.
>Raven drives a haunted hearse filled with the vengeful souls of the dead that it once carried. Using her powerful voodoo dolls, she has become a hero to the people of Midtown; an urban legend who protects the innocents from the freaks and killers who roam the streets of this cursed city.

She's basically a gender bent version of mortimer.

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Your doctors are astounded by your seemingly miraculous recovery. One of them writes a scientific paper about it which catches the attention of a government research lab. They kidnap you and begin experimenting on you to try and discover how your body healed so quickly, subjecting you to painful tests, blood draws, and borrow marrow extractions. You live the rest of your life as a living guinea pig in a top secret government lab.

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*bone marrow

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>NOT A PATIENT

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Didn't Sweet Tooth rip this dude's arms off afterwards

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Yeah.

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>No Face is obsessed with rebuilding his mutilated mug. Tracking and killing those he deems evil, he steals the eyes and tongues of his victims. He struggles to create a new face for himself, one that will allow him to smile at his baby daughter without making her burst into tears. After 8 years, still no luck.

archive.org/details/TwistedMetalHarborCityPrototype

pouring one out for the open world twisted metal we never got (you can run this alpha in PCSX2 if you want)

youtu.be/2LN-y0iWwaU

but if we're talking car combat appreciation, roadkill deserves to be up there.

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Reading this thread really makes me miss the car combat genre. I understand it was very much a product of its time though and should probably stay in said time.

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appreciate this user, I never played TM other than Small Brawl so V8 always has a special place right inside

Gas Guzzlers Extreme (2013)
Diesel Guns (2016)
Carmageddon: Max Damage (2016)
Crossout (2017)
Flat Out 4(2017)
Auto Age Standoff (2017)

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>appreciate this user, I never played TM other than Small Brawl so V8 always has a special place right inside
No problem user.

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cwaboard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9661

only reason to play max damage

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tell me why aren't people trying to reboot the genre into a Battle Royale? you'd think shit like this will sell if it had something unique to offer

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The end

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Is this alpha different from the pack in with TM Head On?

TM was always a battle royal.

What's the difference between that and a limited-lives deathmatch?

lol wtf, what happened to the jap lady then? are they all living in their own respective timelines?

You die now

not in the scale of today's BR

Battle Royale is one life only.

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very, boot it up and find out yourself. nothing in this build is present on the TM Head On 2nd disc.

RIP

Don't forget the UFO

V8 2nd offense will always be my GOAT
>giant ant that spawns in the desert map

He used a razor dildo
That, or he makes you too "clean" and your natural immunities are stripped and you die from having nothing to protect you.

A man of culture

>nothing in this build is present on the TM Head On 2nd disc.
how does that work, isn't the head on version just a more complete later build

Don't you remember? TM2 was one of the first 3D games to have battle damage. The more fucked up you were, the more beat up the character looked, so in Axel's case, he would be missing one of his arms. I think both could be missing at his most critical state.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XZFc6ie5jpY
This however is still great

caaaaalyyypso..........

where arrrrreeeee youuuuuu........

Was certainly odd how they fused in elements of Black, though I imagine that would have been explained in another sequel as Markus/Needles maybe becoming a new entity as they do in the Tower Tooth ending.

what you got with head on appear to be smaller chunks of more fleshed out envs. this build features the mall, the airport, the seaport? and some other shit. if you've ever done any research into harbor city, you'll recognize this stuff immediately

Car Combat games peaked with Twisted Metal 3

But you had multiple "lives" in the TM games

Trying to boot up harbor city but it refuses to load.

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Vigilante 8 is just a fucking shitty version of Interstate 76

The improved rebuilt ISO (Twisted_Metal-Harbor_City-Prototype-Rebuilt-63-Patched.iso) will boot in PCSX2, a PS3 DEX, or a PS2 Test. The prototype behaves the same way in all three: the menus are functional, but attempting to start the game in MOST ways will cause the prototype to lock up. However, by using the "Dev Console" to select split-screen mode, most of the maps built into the prototype can be explored: Docks, Ghetto, Goth, Railyard, and SCenter. Selecting the Airport map will cause the game to lock up.

read the instructions

But it didn't do anything that different from TM2 beyond dumbing down the cast and having those awful looking CGI cutscenes.

I got it to work.

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Exploring the game in splitscreen is a pain my ass but it's better than nothing. Also you can't quit to the main menu for some reason.

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>shopping mall in a gigantic gothic cathedral
Jesus Christ that's fucking awesome.

Vigilante 8

There's more but I have to restart the game.

Could be worse I suppose.

A man of taste. I spent hundreds of hours playing Cel Damage with my brother and friends

interstate 76
and to a lesser extent,
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My brothers and I played the shit out of Vigilante 8. It was one of our favorite games. It's good to know that the game hasn't been forgotten. I've only seen it mentioned once or twice before on Yea Forums and I had gotten the impression that it was more obscure than it apparently is.

I never played Twisted Metal much, so I can't really give a fair comparison, but holy shit, Vigilante 8 was good. I bought the Nintendo 64 version even though my brother already owned the PlayStation version and let me play it sometimes. I wanted my own copy.

What disappoints me is that neither version was really definitive. The Playstation version had cutscenes while the Nintendo 64 version did not; if I remember correctly, it replaced them with comic-book-style slideshows. Meanwhile, the Nintendo 64 version had better graphics, had 4-player mode, and had extra maps. Did any console version have the best of both?

I wish they would release a PC port. But maybe they will and it will be garbage. I should avoid making monkey paw wishes like that.

>I should avoid making monkey paw wishes like that.
See, you would have already known this if you'd played more Twisted Metal.

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Depends on how they port the game. In the absolute worse case, they screw up the programming and there's tons of missing files that not even fan patches can fix. Or, they just fuck it up somewhat and fan patches ultimately make it stable and viable. Now, if they were to just remake it from scratch, that's a whole other can of worms

I played TM 1, 2, and 3 a lot growing up.
The only time I played V8 was the shitty GBA port, so I always thought that's what it was (when I was younger.)
So for me, TM for sure.

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Does any have the virgin Minion vs Chad Warhawk pasta, I need a laugh.

Nice

I agree, not only that but it was missing so much content compared to the 1st game. The music wasnt too bad

>the virgin minion
>fights in a stadium alone cause he has no friends
>drives a shitty old truck with a flamethrower cause he can't afford anything better
>wears a shitty mask made out of a dead animal that probably smells like shit cause he's afraid of sweet tooth
>is actually sweet tooth's alternate personality
>has a shitty shield that can easily be taken out
>only a mid boss
vs
>the chad warhawk
>fights on a rooftop cause he fears nothing
>pilots a state of the art attack helicopter with a badass shark mouth paintjob
>wears a cool helmet that matches his chopper
>has his bro TANKER support him
>shield can only be taken out by destroying TANKER
>is friends with outlaw but will still kill him if it means putting an end to calypso and the contest
>is the final boss of the game

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wait why trash?

I tired to find the character art for this game that wasn't all pixelated the other day. didn't go to well.

Probably not a fan of the virgin/chad meme

then

This thread has been pretty comfy.

It's just a harmless meme, you dork.

Agreed

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