What would you change to make this a good game?

>only bait is that it has a lot of story

Basically nothing to answer your question maybe make some more of the big shell explorable

Nothing it's already perfect
Now 3 on the other hand...

>shell 2
The whole thing about shell 2 blowing up feels like an excuse for cut content.

one of the thing that make this game so great, rose was everybody first girlfriend.

Make Raiden not be a total whiner
Either remove or completely resolve the Patriot plot element
Make Big Shell less of a bitch to navigate
Make Rose stop nagging about stupid relationship shit

Nagging about relationship drama is not plot

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Make Shell 2 explorable from Snake's perspective.

I guess I'm the only boomer who remembers this. I was in high school.

Playing as raiden was a huge bait and switch that was a big deal in the game industry at the time. I remember playing this game with my friends for the first time, beating the tanker level, then watching the intro to the big shell quests and looking at the body of raiden (who wore a mask at the beginning) and thinking "what the hell? Did snake lose weight or something?" Most people thought you'd switch over to playing as snake at some point eventually but it never actually happens. It was a weird time to be alive.

basically use entirely different level design. the big shell is garbage and so are all the gimmicks.

It already is, I wouldn't have minded more stages though. Some of the concepts in the design document and other scrapped art looked really interesting.

Flesh out Arsenal Gear to feel like more of an actual base to sneak through.

My brain wasn't formed enough to appreciate any of that

First I'd have to make it a game.

Fix the controls maybe add in a 3rd person camera options

>Most people thought you'd switch over to playing as snake at some point

I thought that was going to happen after dealing with Solidus and that the rest of the game was Snake and Otacon trying to take down The Patriots.

Instead we had to wait until MGS4 for that

add gameplay. the whole thing is like 4 hours long once you skip the endless chatter and movie scenes

You mean an over-the-shoulder camera? Because the game is already in 3rd person.

Hey, wait a minute, I like that game. You almost tricked me into saying it wasn't good. You little stinker.

>fire kojima
Done

It was better than MGS3 and that god awful camo system that made you pause every time you wanted to switch camo.

It's already good. We should have gotten a Snake/Liquid boss fight in the NYC streets before the Raiden/Solidus one

Yes an over the shoulder camera.
My bad

Tasty tears from assblasted contrarians.
This series is so legendary that people still talk about it decades later.

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I'd somehow make the tanker the majority of the game.
I understand that goes against the spirit of what Kojima wanted to do, but I don't care I fucking loved it and want to be pandered to shamelessly.

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Shell 2, either way this game is perfect to me.

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Gameplay to cutscene ratio in metal gear solid:
>1: 2:1
>2: 1:1
>4: 1:8
What went wrong?

MGS3 was trash. People were just glad to play as Snake again. It had some cool bosses, but the majority of the new mechanics were not good.

because in 4 kojimbo decided to wrap up the entire fucked up nonsense mgs canon

Big Shell was super easy to navigate and memorable. Each strut had it's unique layout and secret shortcuts.

everybody who raged about raiden ruined MGS

>MGS3 was trash
I disagree and I think you have bad taste.

More Raiden

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MGS3 was the most balanced. MGS2 actually has more non-gameplay content ration compared to 3.
41% of MGS2 is cutscenes/codecs
31% of MGS3 is cutscenes/radio
Both are good though and decent pacing. Idk what happened after 3. The studio and Kojima completely changed.
I know one of the lead writers left during the production of 4, but is it really that simple? One man changed the entire fate of the series?

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Let me guess, you got super mad you didn't get to play as Snake in the plant chapter.

The amount of new gameplay mechanics from MGS1 to MGS2 was also far greater than from MGS2 to MGS3.

Fuck you and fuck over the shoulder camera. Fucking center the camera behind your character like games used to be before the absolute misstep in all of gaming that is Resident Evil 4 game along and fucked everything up

I got super mad when you said MGS3 was trash.

I mean, it is trash

Rose was written as a narcissistic cunt. If she was your first GF you must be an incel by now.

The fixed camera kills the stealth your always looking at the radar instead of your surroundings. Imagine mgs2 with mgsv controls and a proper light/dark/noise based stealth system

No it isn't.
It's a great game for a great series.

Rose wasn't even Rose, besides the one you meet at the end of the game. Colonel and Rose during the Big Shell section are GW A.I. projections fucking with Raiden. Play the game faggot.

>imagine MGSV
I try to forget about that thing..

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Yea Forums tastes

Was his room still empty because that's fucking weird not having anything in your room

MGS2 is a masterpiece in gaming so not much.

>Rose was written as a narcissistic cunt.

yea like all women, pretty realistic and nice of kojima to prepare young men for the trial of the future

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Yes, that part was legit. He was a child soldier and never really adjusted to normal living.

Cut sniper duels, escort missions and underwater shit.

Mgsv played fantastically it’s just the game built around it thats lacklustre put those controls in proper game and you got a winner

That's already in though, it's called snake tales I believe.

Literally nothing, it's 100% perfect

The engine was nice. The game itself was not very Metal Gear though, even in the control aspect. But I would put MGS4 in that camp too. There was a clear shift after MGS3, and I prefer the original controls and vibe over the new (admittedly more accessible) controls.
The original trilogy didn't control the best, but MGSV just makes it too easy. A good game, but not a good MGS game, imo.

Do people really still not get the point of the Patriots?

The Patriots in MGS2 was a based concept and well executed.
The Patriots in MGS4 is cringe and dumb as fuck. Really the entirely of MGS4 is horrible.

Writing less shitty and cringy.

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we call the mg3babys for a reason

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Liquid still alive

Sure but they could rebalance the difficulty to account for the more accessible controls. Mgs2 would be amazing the cumbersome controls and fixed camera just make the stealth garbage in comparison to other stealth games of the time.

mgs2 controls are good besides the pressure sensitivity, though.

Just make more of Shell 2 explorable. That's about it.

I loved the Tanker chapter to bits so that chapter being longer than it is would be great but that's just getting greedy.

Not as a stealth game splinter cell, thief and even some smaller games like riddick did stealth way better. The fixed camera is garbage

But it is an entirely different game at that point. I can still barely tell I am playing an MGS game when I play MGSV. If it weren't in the title or if the characters didn't keep calling you Boss, then it is basically an entirely different game. Or at least a different sub genre. There is little gameplay similarity between 1-3, and 4/V.

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But he lived on through that arm.

Well yeah that goes without saying, I was talking about 2. It always seemed to me that the Patriots being left unresolved dovetails with Snake's whole message at the end.

Pretty dumb looking at it in hindsight. Ocelot himself is a good character and the whole Liquid Ocelot thing is rather pointless.
Ocelot can hold his own weight as a character, and Liquid wasn't really THAT important. MGS4 could have been slightly less shit if they dropped the Liquid Ocelot garbage.
It's not like there is any expected Liquid VS Solid drama in the series. It was important in MGS1, but it is not that important that they need to keep Liquid alive VIA his arm on Ocelot.
Maybe it makes more sense to the Japanese. It comes across goof(ier) than most things in the series.

MGS1 had the best villains.

It would be different but they can keep the basic linear level design,story/characters remember mgs2 had a 1st person camera you just couldn’t move so make a behind the shoulder camera that allows movement. Mgsv was bad because it was an open world with nothing in it and the story was almost nonexistent.

Actually, no. Ocelot was just pretending the whole time.

Liquid Ocelot was just intended to reinforce the whole Shadow Moses Deja Vu thing I think.

No the arm was legit. He got liquids arm chopped off but kept the ruse going because it was convienient.

I get it, I just think it was shit.

no snake tales is non canon random bullshit

Completely disagree. V controls like a charm and the camera work is excellent.
The additional fluff like Reflex mode and the x-ray shit is bad, but it can be disabled.

I don't think MGSV controls were bad, just bad for an MGS game. It just doesn't feel right. There could be some quality of life improvements to MGS2/3's controls, but MGS4/V went in the wrong direction. (Still being good for a game, but not for MGS games.)

Says who you stupid faggot? It's literally what snake was doing that entire time

No it's not, have you played it? You save Emma from "drug dealers", lol. The entire plot is changed, just using MGS2 assets.

Replace Raiden and Rose. They were what dragged the game down. Also, Dead Cell was the weakest antagonist group in MGS. Huge step down from Fix Hound

The controls and the camera, make them more like MGSV.

Dead Cell was maybe the weakest in the first 3 games. The Beauty and the Beasts were just fucking horrendous.

make Raiden not look like a faggot and not be voiced by Quinton Flynn

i was just about to say that.
Dead Cell is just lame all around.
Fortune even thinks she's magically bulletproof

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Dead Cell was just as good as the cobra unit

I think Cobra was better in that they had a reason to be there, tied to the Boss. Dead Cell's motives seem more splintered and less obvious. At least that's how I remember it.

I like Dead Cell better than Cobra Unit. That's probably what I hate the most about 3: you don't really get to know them at all and they barely even talk. Dead Cell members are at least interesting and have arcs.

>Play a metal gear solid game
>complain about lenght time
Dumb Joker poster

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obviously everything involving liquids hand

>i-it's bad on purpose!
everytime

didju rike it?

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Nothing.