Make the perfect handheld

everything was on umd

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Would it and the Megaman X remake sold better if Capcom waited a few years for the 3DS?

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It sold 82 million units, lifetime.
That's pretty damn good for a non-nintendo handheld.
For comparison, the PS4 only just this year passed the 100-mill sales mark, and the GameGear, the go-to example of "The Best Handheld not made by Nintendo" only sold about 10 million.
The PSP had a damn good run. It's not it's fault the competition was the Nintendo Best Selling Handheld Of All Time DS

this
thank you friend
I also consider it to have a fairly weak library, I spent most of the time playing PS1 classics and the the only PSP games I really played were Persona ports and Metal Gear Solid Acid/Peacewalker

>make the perfect handheld
It also cost dramatically more than a DS and tried too hard to shill "home console, but on the go" games when the chipset and controls just weren't on par with home console contemporaries.

I love mine, but it took me a while to appreciate it and get exposed to the actual gems of its library.

Should've just built it around MiniDisc instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, since MD was actually popular in Japan and a modest success in Europe and they still had the tooling to make MD drives.

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Honestly this. It still has the best Dpad and it can do anything the psp could plus more. A shame it was left for dead so fucking fast.

That's where you're horribly wrong.
PSP had the greatest library of games out of any handheld. Shit was doing the port meme long before the Switch did in terms of actually great ports and compilations.

>Perfect handheld
It's impossible because it will never be greater than consoles.

Hardware sales alone aren't that encouraging though since everyone just bought them to steal games.

didnt lose. every rich kid had one

sseth

Then why isn't there a successor today?

the vita was its successor

>Hey nice plushies, they also look small!
>50 dollars

fuck

Where's the DS's successor?

I was asking about a successful console, not a trash ipod

I was a rich kid and I had a PS2, 360, Wii and DS.

Because while the PSP was excellent the Vita was fucking trash.

the vita is extremely successful in japan

blu ray vs hd dvd
what is a single advantage hd dvd had?

>close relative wins some money
>buys me and 2 brothers PSP's
>mom takes back youngest brothers within a day to get the money for it, I think they were like $400 NEW back then
>me and middle brother play one ad-hoc game of that hockey 2004 or whatever while waiting in a mcdonalds drive through
>few days later mom takes his back and gets the money for it
>I notice whats going on
>I hide mine and say it lost it
>only play it when I know shes not around

imagine getting $800 for liquor money

>extremely successful
Literally outsold by the PS4 despite the inherent advantage handhelds have in Japan

>fuck
Yeah, you missed the boat for that series by a few years. The World ones can be had for about $20-$25 a pop, but a lot of them have fugly eyes.

>lose

It's hard to compete against Pokemon in its prime. That being said, both DS and PSP were goddamn amazing and there was plenty reason to own both.

there's no shame in losing to the ds. both the ds and the psp were god-tier. pretty sad how the handheld market has devolved from those two classics to nothing but smartphone "games" and the shitch.

>tfw saw a PSP plushie in a mall

Nintendo had the handheld market on lock just because everyone fucking knew about "the gameboys" and the ds is STILL colloquially called gameboy. Even the fucking switch is. That sort of brand recognition is on par with bandaids in terms of universality.

PSP had great software, and good hardware. But it was way too easy to hack, to a point it suffered greatly in the west. It had pretty good if not great hardware sales, but the software sales were basically nonexistent.
I also know like 15 people who are now indie devs who got their start making homebrew for PSP, because it was so easy and there was basically 0 restriction on being able to do it, you just had to own a psp.

Still outsold the...
>3DS
>Wii U
>Switch (fuck you it won't make it, it's already bombing, pic related)
>N64
>NES
>SNES
>Gamecube
Suck it Nintendofags

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Why doesn't Sony make handhelds anymore?

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console war faggotry

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It was shit for actually playing games until it was hacked and memory cards became available. By then people had already lost interest.

>Pull it of of pocket on a bus
>Load game
>Put it back in pocket because bus has arrived

The load times were awful.

They made it a disk based system specifically to push the UMD format and sell whole library of movies all over again.
...right before Blueray and HDDVD were starting to get pushed.

And then they tried the same fucking prank with the Vita and their memory sticks.

aaah yes, i too remember my playstation pornable

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If you hate console wars, it's because you're too autistic to debate.

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>thread was talking about the PSP
>try to drag it into consolewar faggotry anyway

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It is the truth however. Kids cartoons with characters in 3/4ths perspective won't change that.

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PSP came way soon. Hardware was better than the DS, but that umd... If Sony tried to get into the portable market in the 2010s with the digital format in mind, without the expensive cards, it would have sold even better than it did.

Dont know, but I enjoyed that shit a lot
youtube.com/watch?v=MFCQCBC3sq4

>Comparing a multi console release to a 1 console release

Which handheld has the most soul?

>you're too autistic to debate
>says the wojakposter
I hate consolewars because defending a fucking toy is sad as fuck

if they made a play 2, I would buy it. My xperia play still holds a 5 hour charge, meanwhile my S9 lasts maybe 4 without me even turning the screen on. It's absolutely disgusting how hard they force obsolescence.

because the vita flopped so hard. i'm really hoping the switch's success in japan convinces sony to give it one more try, though. i still think they're capable of making an excellent handheld if they can just avoid that one quirk that holds it back (umd/memory cards).

>Switch (fuck you it won't make it, it's already bombing, pic related)
I bet you were one of those people saying it wouldn't even break 20 million

It looks better like that though.

>ps3 ports

No games.

> meanwhile my S9 lasts maybe 4 without me even turning the screen on
That's just defective hardware, m8. That phone's a year and a half old at most, it should be fine.

>can you spot the difference

Yes. I can name all of the cartoons in that picture because they have character. I can't name a single anime.

They've burned all their bridges with the few devs that did support the Vita. It's over.

She probably pawned them for less than 200 each mate, sorry your mom is trash.

NGPC and WSC.

>Lose
It sold about 80 million and STILL gets Japanese games released on it 14 fucking years later.

Not bad for a piece of shit system with an awful thumb stick.

The PSP had a ton of good/great games, but you barely ever see a PSP game that’s not a port show up in 3x3 threads or people listing their favourite games etc
In comparison the DS has a bunch of games that are often ranked among the top.
The PSP library is a sea of 7/10s.

>Sony not doing dumb shit with memory cards

make a good enough handheld and devs will flock to it.

Mario Kart Wii, New Super Mario Bros, and Pokemon Red and Blue were exclusives and they still sold extremely well. Even today they're still at the top of the best selling games of all time list. And I didn't even bring up pack-in games like Wii Sports.
See

>Why doesn't Sony make handhelds anymore?
They missed at their first attempt to take the handheld crown, suffered an embarrassing failure in their second, and now the Playstation division is dominated by people from a handheld-unfriendly culture.

The only chance of us ever seeing a third go is if as mentioned, the Switch succeeds to the point where Sony decides they want a bite of the pie, much like how they chose to launch PS Move and the PS Classic.

I don't know what's worse
defending a consolewarfag or retweeting and liking this garbage

Damn, that sucks.

PSP+PSV where both way ahead of their time. Bottom line is they lacked games and you can achieve their graphical fidelity with a smartphone.
The only possible way to make a successful handheld in today's market is to appeal to Σοyboys and women by rehashing the same gimmicks from children's games.

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op starts off consolewarring, dumb faggot

The 3DS where were you in a coma?

>I can't name a single anime.

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You can blame the Vita being the blunder of the century for that one, from it's poorly designed hardware features, to it's $250 - $300 pricetag, to it's proprietary memory cards, to it's shit library unless you're a weeb.

I've probably been on Yea Forums longer than you've been alive.

I fucking love the PSP, but it's still beaten out by the original DS in terms of a handheld library. The DS was like the PS2 of handhelds. Then I'd place PSP in second place

Spider-Man 3 on the PSP had no right to be good for a licensed game

cool story, post-election redditard.

This
Gameboy and it’s legacy is just too powerful
I see why Sony tried to sue Nintendo over sniping the name Gameboy
>Walkman-Gameboy

You can make a system with all the great form factor you want, but a console needs games to get sold. Coming off a flop like the Vita was, I wouldn't expect much 3rd party support for the first couple years like how the Switch still isn't getting much Japanese 3rd party support despite being the best selling system in Japan. If Sony wants to get back into the handheld market, it's going to require not just a lot of R&D cost, but they'd have to make a lot of first/second party games for the thing just to get it off the ground.

Unironically Gameboy

I had both and you're wrong. DS had like 5 solid games with the rest being shovelware. PSP had at least 20 great games, and every game that was on both was far better on PSP

They even released the Vita TV, for just $100, barely three years after it originally came out too.

Here’s an easy old fag question
Who is the 1st person you meet in of the Sex kitten games?

lose what, retard

It's should be a crime to be this much of a fucking oblivious retard.

>devs will waste millions making quality handheld games if the device is good enough
>when they could spend 10.000$ on a mobile MTX simulator and rake in disgusting profit
>graphical fidelity still ends up pretty much the same, if not better on mobile

shitch

OG GBA

The Vita wouldn't be bad if that fucking back touch pad didn't exist and they just added a couple of extra shoulder buttons like they fucking should have. I could even tolerate the front touch pad honestly but that shit was inexcusable.

I would kill for an Xperia Play 2.

Back before smartphones took off, I remember that damn near everybody with a PSP loaded that shit up with pirated media. It was THE portable media player. I don't recall seeing anyone actually play a game on it.

Not all like the DS. I must have seen dozens of impromptu Mario Kart DS download play games back then. It seemed like everybody had a DS.

The only western art that is good are the ones not made by Jews

I kind of wish the Vita went with proper L2/R2 buttons instead of that back panel bullshit.

This

me n my buddy (when we were like 13) were so hype to put porn on his psp

then when we had sleepovers it was easy to check out a bunch of porn together while our folks slept.

>arguing over which toy is better is an activity for smart people
cope

>Coming off a flop like the Vita was
games weren't the issue with the vita. it had plenty of games. what killed the vita was forcing those proprietary memory cards. thanks to that moronic decision, they couldn't respond to nintendo's 3ds price cut.
>I wouldn't expect much 3rd party support for the first couple years like how the Switch still isn't getting much Japanese 3rd party support despite being the best selling system in Japan.
the switch doesn't get third-party support because its hardware is a piece of shit and nintendo fans are reluctant to support third-party games (especially niche titles).
any new handheld sony makes would almost certainly be more powerful than the switch, and there's more of an audience for niche japanese games. i could actually see sony treating a new handheld as a home for all the weeb games that they don't like to promote on their home consoles.

Fucking Sony, too lazy to add proper L2 and R2 while Nintendo had all four shoulder buttons on their handheld.

I enjoyed the fuck out of my PSP. lots of good UMD movies plus when I hacked it finally it was even better. Glad I still have it.

The DS didn't have:
Dracula X Chronicles
Gradius Collection
Salamander Collection
Twinbee Collection
The YGO Tag Force series
Mega Man X Maverick Hunter
Mega Man Powered Up
Ultimate Ghosts n' Goblins
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max (the definitive edition)
Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower
Capcom Classics Collection Remix
Capcom Classics Collection Reloaded
Power Stone Collection
EA Replay
Jeanne D'Arc
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
The definitive versions of FFI-IV
MGS Portable Ops and Peace Walker
Patapon 1-3
LocoRoco 1 & 2
Killzone Liberation
Monster Hunter Freedom 1, 2, and Unite
Suikoden I & II
DariusBurst
GTA Liberty City Stories
GTA Vice City Stories
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
Ys I&II, Oath and VI
Lumines 1 & 2
Namco Museum Battle Collection
Lunar: Silver Star Harmony
SEGA Genesis Collection
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
Disgaea 1 & 2
Samurai Shodown Anthology
Metal Slug Anthology
OutRun 2006

And an entire backlog of PS1 and NEO GEO games.

stick fucking sucked dick

>tfw fucking around with homebrew and emulators
>snes9x for PSP lags unless I overclocked it to 333mhz

but muh pogeyman

It doesn't matter why the Vita flopped, it only matters that it did in the eyes of developers who would have to take a serious financial risk in supporting the console. I also don't think a Sony handheld would be that much more powerful than the switch is, because price point is very important and I don't see a huge market for a $400+ handheld

metal gear acid
burnout
gradius collection
maverick hunter x
liberty city stories with the cheat thing

>Try to play Flower on Vita for some easy trophies after I got it on PS+
>It's entirely controlled by the Gyro and rear touchpad with no way to change it
Fasted I've ever fucking dropped anything. Thankfully nine out of ten devs just ignored it.

katamari on the psp changed my life

I found it hilarious that the Vita was touted as a portable PS3 yet couldn't even run upscaled PS2 games. Play the Jak and Daxter ports; they are fucking inexcusably bad and get to borderline Powerpoint level frame rates at points. These are fucking PS2 games which ran at 60fps on their home systems.

If Sony is scared to get back into the handheld scene due to phones taking over, why don't they just release a controller with built in gaming hardware, os, and card slot, that you can attach to your phone? If you want to play just have the controller synced to your phone, and the dedicated app installed for casting the gameplay to your phone screen. Is this a viable idea?

I laugh every time I remember Borderlands 2 on Vita.

>It doesn't matter why the Vita flopped
sure it does. all they have to do to raise people's confidence in a new handheld is to announce that there's no proprietary memory cards, no umds, no other bullshit quirks. the vita kept getting games even though it was an abysmal failure, imagine the support a successful sony handheld would get.
>I also don't think a Sony handheld would be that much more powerful than the switch is
the psp's hardware was way better than the ds' hardware. the vita's hardware was way better than the 3ds' hardware. it's safe to assume that a new sony handheld would run circles around the steaming shitpile that is the switch.

The psp is only good because you could use it as a rearview mirror
Outside of that, its dogshit

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That handheld device would cost nearly as much as a regular gaming device, only without the screen, so maybe like $200.
Ask yourself if you know anyone that would spend $200 on gaming for their phone.

Based and Princepilled.

Crisis Core and Daxter HD when?

crisis core HD is gonna come out in between chapters 1 and 2 of ff7 remake. It'll just be an upscaled port on ps4, though, not using the new engine.

Without the need for a high-res screen the price of the proposed device would certainly be significantly cheap. I'm guessing what the user was imagining was basically a PSTV in the shape of those attachable Bluetooth Android controllers. This would actually be pretty cool, if it meant playing hardcore games in a phone that you already own. This would actually be cheaper than buying a switch

Haha same here, buddy of ours would rub one out while we were just shooting the shit and playing games. I miss those days.

I'm not talking about consumer confidence in the new console, I'm talking about developer confidence in it. I really don't think most developers are willing to invest resources into the successor of a failed product until after consumers start buying in and keep doing so for a couple of years.

Also you do realize that both those handhelds ended up costing significantly more than their competition because they were more powerful and they subsequently got outsold because of the price point. At the end of the day price point is more important than power for the vast majority of consumers, that's why the PS2 beat out its competition and that's why a $400 Sony handheld would lose as well.

>significantly c heap
it would be maybe $100 cheaper. that still leaves it at $200, more if it has to have a battery in it unless it'll be a wired connection to draw on the phone's battery.
No one's going to spend that.

I really hate the back touchpad. Can't even hold the damn thing properly or else I accidentally trigger something. I tried playing RE3 and I kept accidentally pausing the game because I guess the touchpad can be used to pause, why the fuck is that a thing?

From that list of games I only really liked MH, KH:BBS, miku and patapon. The PSP library felt really weak for me, but I loved emulating PS1 and GBA games on it.

>ports and trash

I hate that shit, but was able to set l3r3l2r2 to the touch screen and right analog stick.

The PSTV was literally $99.99 at launch. How hard would it be for Sony to re-engineer it, albeit with better hardware, to fit comfortably on your phone? Everyone has a phone, so the potential userbase would be fucking huge. This is a way better value than a Switch. I'd imagine this device would be big in Japan.

>Be a young lad
>Discover the internet browser
>Porn for days
I somehow managed to get a flash game to load on Newgrounds, too, couldn't play it for obvious reasons but it still blew my mind back in the day.

As a nintendobro, I had to get out of my comfort zone for these, but they were worth it.

My dick

I love how it's only real flaw is dead center of the screen.

But he's not talking about the Switch user.

In this case why wouldn't they just literally make an Xperia Play 2019? You got dedicated gaming on one side, and multimedia galore on the other. Still better than a Switch.

I think the lack of a second analog stick killed it. It came out right around the time FPSes and 3rd person twin-stick action games were starting to dominate the market, and yet it couldn't do either of those genres without having totally fucked up clunky controls.

i like the PSP d pad better for most things, and slide nub is better than the small vita sticks. Both are essentials to me though, atleast 20 hours a week get put into the two of them combined

The DS didn't have:
Dracula X Chronicles

It had 3 castlevania games that weren't ports though.

if that were the case it would've been discontinued
just because there was dozens of weeb garbage VNs doesn't mean japan gave a fuck about it

The most wrong that anyone has been in a while

we never had rondo of blood in america. plus the DS games were in the style of SOTN, which i disliked. might be the only person who stopped liking castlevania once they started doing that

isn't microsoft doing this, or leaked that they're making a device that does this?

embarrassing yourself 101

>diagonal d-pad movement

Sony: What is that?

those are my favourite castlevania games, and the gba ones too. i fucking hated rondo of blood and i only bought dracula x for sotn

>nintendo
>IT'S THE SAME KIDDIE SHIT OVER AND OVER
>microsoft
>IT'S THE SAME DUDEBRO SHIT OVER AND OVER
>sony
>IT'S THE SAME MOVIES OVER AND OVER

8th street latinas lol

das it mayne

very true and it could have easily had one, also UMD's and memorystickpro's were stupid

Prove me wrong. You literally can't

I had a nintendo DS and defended nintendo, but then when I could afford the psp fat and the modding and hacking that was out for it, I could so much more and I liked the broader game collection overall. The graphics were better, the emulation was top-notch, the controls were awesome, and the size was perfect.
I get the vita and I can't stand the fucking thing. It collects dust next to my ps3 top loader.

>tfw browsing porn sites for the first time on my PSP
>tfw watching converted porn vids as well
Damn 2006 was a great year for me.

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>make no games for it other than Patapon

trufax

Why didn't you beat the shit out of your mom later in life user? Don't you got any balls?

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It's almost like affordability is a major selling point.

>converting shitty 15 second porn clips

fuck how many of those did i make

i might still have them somewhere kek

PSP hacking is so much better than Vita hacking. Shit is easy and stress free and you don't even need to be connected or have a PSN ID just to hack it like the damn Vita.

>only owns the vita slim

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>Megaman X remake
we truly live in the worst timeline, Capcom was planning on making sequels for Powered Up and Maverick Hunter X but no one bought them. I really hope they get ported some day and people actually play them, they're easily in conversation for best megaman games of all time.

Oh, you don't like the good castlevania games.

>they're easily in conversation for best megaman games of all time.

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Only thing I didn't like about Maverick Hunter was some of the music and lack of content compared to Powered Up.

Was liking what they were going for too, always hated the maverick virus concept in the other games when they could do so much more with robots all having free will now.

play them

>>they're easily in conversation

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>Perfect
>sub 720p screen
>OLED

Yeah powered up had insane content with playing as all the robot masters and Maverick Hunter really only had Vile mode, which was still sick as fuck though.

maverick hunter had bad music, FOV felt too zoomed in, and vile mode sucked. powered up was very neat though

>Hurr my screen looks better than yours
That's all you 1000fags have, 2000chads have better battery life, better charging cable, better sound, better back touchpad so that people can actually hold the fucking thing and 1gb of internal storage so it's much easier to hack and you don't gotta waste money on those overpriced Sony cards and there's a hack to improve the colors on the screen for the 2000.

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The only chads are those who own both you dingbat

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Anyway to play perfect dark on the psp or the vita?

My brother still uses his psp, and when he gets bored of it, i play it. I have so many fucking games for it. What a handheld, top tier for sure.

Why would I want the one with shitty battery life though?

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ive got both because i was a launch owner of the OLED :^)
suffered through years of no gaems, idk why i also bought a slim

Why would you need good battery life?
Don't tell me you actually play outside in public

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A man of culture, also "pure18"

Vita is harder to get going, but once it's there, it handles like a dream.

I do like the flat circle pad on the PSP, made it easier to put in my pocket.

Level creator online still works for powers up.

I don't want to get robbed by spics or niggers so no I don't.

At least Sony supported the PSP for a long time, they completely ignored the Vita after a year.

then why do you need a good battery life

Black Ops being shafted by that literally who dev is when I think sony gave up. you might think "who cares, just CoD shit", but that game was critical to how much support they would need to give the vita. when that game bombed sony knew there was no point

Because I don't wanna have to get up and run after my charging cable because I wanted to use my Vita for a few minutes.

It's real downfall was not using a standard memory card.
It really was an amazing system and it transitioned perfectly into into the next generation with the ability to download games and had they used something traditional as a memory format and maybe put up more of a fight with piracy it may have continued on for much longer.

thats the problem i have with the switch. i get super into DQ builders, and then 2 hours in it starts dying and i put the switch down for another week or so

>psp
>oled

If only Sony didn't went full Jew with the vita and striked a deal to make MH exclusive, the Vita would've had the chance to survive against the 3ds. I'm still salty because Vita would've been the best MH device.

you don't have a plug in your house?

Yeah, instead we got years of more mediocre monster hunter games with no growth or improvements.

Yeah?

so why do you need a long battery life just plug it on in

Still don't get why the Vita was abandoned by pretty much everyone except some smaller Japanese games (which were pretty awesome).

Feels nice in my hands, nice screen, games play well on it and had the whole business with the touch screen which could be nice for certain games. Also had an amazing game library of ported games.

its the best handheld though

wish we have the technology to make ps2 games handheld

my phone can do some, and it does wii almost perfectly. comes at a price though, shit gets expensive and not really worth it

phones can play ps2 games now? psp maybe but ps2?

I mean I could do that but doesn't that kill the battery over time or something, leaving it charging despite it already being fully charged?

SD855 phones can run some PS2 games pretty well, but it's still not reliable and you need a top of the line phone for it.

nah that's a myth bro

rip-off priced proprietary memory cards killed it though. I mean fuck, it got hyped up to all fuck on Good Morning America. Even Hillary shill George Stephanopoulos loved it.

ive got one of those high end expensive ones for games. i can play JRPGs, nothing like sly cooper or jak

wow so just in a few years then? im just gonna wait it out then

ive been emulating in my psp nowadays anyway

vita had no support

but most critically it had no monster hunter

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Now add in the mk8 wii u sales dumbass what does this have to do with the thread anyways

GBA SP or DS Lite.

I'm just really sad Sony isn't going to make a Vita successor. Vita was amazing, too bad Sony had no interest in actually supporting the fucking thing.

>screencapping some random twitter anime avatar weebtard
Big yikes

Yes it did
Frontier

UMDs and extremely easy piracy
The Wii had even easier piracy but that was a normiecore system so it didn't hurt sales as much

My lifelong companion, the NES edition GBA SP

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>work at game store when this was fairly new
>watch kid buy a game then excitedly tear the UMD casing off before I can stop him and he puts the disc into the PSP
We had replacement UMD cases out the ass thankfully. They were flimsy in general.

imagine getting mad at my PSP. i don't know what was wrong with the kids in my high school. the DS was clearly for retards my PSP was the alpha console

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Was the psp popular because its easy to hack?

Or

was it popular in the first place thats why people want to hack it?

i like that color alot, i just had a lame normal 3000

Extremely easy piracy actually boosted sales of the system in the long run.

they nailed the handheld design, nothing has ever been as comfortable since. Not even the Vita.
The fact that nintendo won even with their stupid "mini-laptop" design makes me MAD. Sure the screens are somewhat protected but hinges were shit and the device overall look and feel was cringy to say the least. Now they just gave up and made a small switch that's absolutely not pocket size anyway
portable consoles are fuckin dead, prolly thanks to phones.

Vita is better, it's literally a powered up PSP.
That is, for the Vita to be actually good you have to hack it while the PSP was good on its own.

the system was sold at a loss

I was already old when this thing came out but man do I miss actual handhelds. This and the DS helped kill so much time on the road.

>zoomer talk

it's clam-shell and no, it took them PSP 2.0/lite to be decent

vita has no games, if vita can emulate ps2 games id buy it

>So fixated on social opinion
I can tell you're a woman.

I'm 32
I owned a phat vita and can't remember any difference design-wise between that and the 3000 I got later (and still own) other than weight/volume. I prolly would've stuck with my phat PSP if it wasn't for the eternal loading times.
Clamshell feels good in your pocket but not comfortable when actually using it.

Based.
Stealing neighbors wifi to download Lisa ann movies at 13 is a memory still close to my heart

>phat vita
PSP*
ironically I do own a phat vita but eh

That's why I said the Vita needs hacking to be good while the PSP didn't need that to be good.

for me it was /gif/. you know, before all the trannys.

literally how
browser kept running out of memory on the PSP. How the hell would you download a video on it?

DS Lite

The only flaw the PSP has is that the joynub is on the left.

Seriously, why the fuck is it on the left? Even the damn 3DS did this! Because of this, any game where you control the camera will feel weird, especially shooters.

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Had a 1k and a 3k. pretty much a toss up between the two because they both had good and bad things, but the three edged out on top imo. The 1k indefinably felt better quality wise, where as the 3k felt cheap. the 3 weighed a lot less and had a brighter screen and better battery, and more RAM as a trade off. Good times were had when the master keys were leaked during the big Sony hack. was a great few years when the PSP was completely open to pretty much what ever you wanted. I remember playing old Minecraft home brew alpha versions with a slight OC using custom firmware.

>At the end of the day price point is more important than power for the vast majority of consumers, that's why the PS2 beat out its competition

At launch PS2 and Xbox were both $299 and the Gamecube was $199.

PS2 and Xbox dropped to $199 and the GC to $99.

So no, PS2 was not cheaper than either of its competitors.

Nah m8, Samsung phones are prone to having shit tier batteries,I'm sure they just want to force people to buy the newest models
>t. Just had a Galaxy S7 commit seppuku

You had to be pretty clever to get past the memory limitations, but disabling pictures from loading and using a single tab after a fresh restart. looking back was a huge pain in the ass, but when you have access to a web browser that your parents don't even know existed, much less knew was a feature of the system.. becomes pretty easy to look past the limitations. the thing could do some serious work back in the day as a all around entertainment medium, very few other devices had Video, music, photos, web browsing, built in support for comic books. then you get into the fact that it had first party games, with local and web MP, and the emulator scene was unreal. all of this with a decent screen in 2004.
PSP gets a lot of crap but the system was truly incredible for it's time.

>Caused more hardware units to be sold at a loss
>Caused less software to be sold, which was what actually made money

this. went through 3 batteries on my shitty samsung but only 1 on my lg. lg had shitty in comparison software which was a funny thing to have worse than samsung

>The definitive versions of FFI-IV
I found a mistake on your list. The DS got ports for 3 and 4 which were arguably the best versions. There can be a lot of augment about which versions of 1-4 are definitive.
Suikoden 1 and 2 aren't PSP games. Perhaps you're thinking of Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki, but it wasn't released in English. Tierkreis on the other hand was...

People love to shit on Apple's phones but their shit lasts, physically at least. I've been using the same 4S for almost six years.

I had a memory stick of 8gb. And used the mobile version of xvideos. Then save archive as.. then it started downloading 30 minutes 240p movies. With 35% probability it will fail mid download. But i had time to do it again

I know that Apple hardware (minus the screens) holds up better over time, it's just that the lack of SD card slot is a deal breaker for me

>The DS got ports for 3 and 4
They were straight-up remakes, not even ports

user that worked in a store when this handheld was relevant here. I had to drill it into newbies heads to completely fucking wipe PSPs due to how prevalent porn was. I tested trade-in systems in front of the customer only to see tits as their XMB wallpaper. Funny story time too
>finally got time off and leave to visit family friend
>not a few beers or hours in suddenly get call from the store phone
>both guys are in panic mode and want to know how to proceed/handle 'a situation'
>wut
>"We sold a PSP to a guy, he gave it to his kid and it had transvestite porn on it."
>tell them when I closed last night we had zero PSPs, so they didn't wipe one they took in and it's their fault
>laugh while telling them to call our actual management and ask why the fuck are they calling me when I'm a state away
>"We don't want him to know."
>hang up during mid-panic sentence from other guy

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Its the planned obsolescence that pisses me off.

I've bought several accessories n the last few years that were made specifically for it and ipods of the same generation that no longer work because Apple patches out compatibility with iOS updates.

My S7 battery died just a year and a half into owning it. Legit babied it since I had shit phones until then. I replaced the battery myself and said fuck waterproofing.

The PSP really was a jewel, and the fact that it was a pornographic powerhouse was the icing on the cake.

The thumbpad was functional and adequate for the time.

>only owns the vita slim
Eh, I want a 3G Vita eventually to drop a PSVSD in it, but got other gaming platforms I'd like to dip my toes into first since I already don't use the Vita 2000 all that much.

For me it was the Dreamcast and convincing my parents to let me have a lock for privacy. The browser on it was shit but I didn't have to gamble using our single family PC (that my siblings infected with viruses anyway). I can imagine the PSP was even better for faps.

God Samurai Jack is so fucking good bros

I wish those "rugged" Chinese made phones actually worked well here in the US, I heard those things are built like tanks

What's so great about the 3G model that you'd buy it over the 1000 model?

>S7 batteries died
wtf my s6 is still working. shit battery but working

the PSP gave tons of kids smartphone/PMP/laptop tech that they had never experienced before and would not until smartphones became ubiquitous. not just games, highly advanced (AVC!) video playback for the time, manga/ebook reading, RSS feeds, internet radio, an impressive music player, and with homebrew included much more powerful custom software like emulators than had ever been possible in a handheld. I can't think of a device of a similar age that was able to emulate so many systems. if the PSP never played game it would still be good for the time as a PMP. and of course I used it as a fap machine on family trips.

>shit battery life at the time
still better than the 3ds and switch (generally). and it did well considering how small the battery is compared to modern systems where it takes up 60-90% of the internal volume. the battery in the PSP is about 25% of it's internal size. it could have been much bigger without the UMD drive and by shrinking some of the boards. a modded PSP with the drive removed can fit a battery large enough to more than double it's life. also, even early in PSP CFW development you could custom clock the CPU on the fly. this lets you use some super-optimized homebrew to for example play mp3 with the CPU clocked to only 33mhz, ten times lower than the game clock. I could get 10 hours doing that on trips.

>brought a hacked PSP to school
>brought a shitphone sony ericsson too
>listended to albums on my 512MB memoryshaft
the early 2000s were good. nobody knows what it was like to walk home listening to anime OSTs on your PSP and watch G4 like a boss while your jerk off and play animal crossing on your DS

UMD fucked it over

I've loved my PSP since day one. I've gone through about 4 different models over the years (not because of defective hardware, just because they're so cheap nowadays).
It is a great system, but it's library lets it down. 95% of the time I'm playing PS1 games or NES/GBA. PS1 emulation and easiness of hacking are it's no.1 selling point.
MHFU is the best game out of the PSP library. Everything else is a 7/10 imo.

gameboy pocket, SP

that shit was so popular you could look up "PSP" on pirate-bay and search masses of stuff specifically formatted for the PSP so you could just drag and drop. that and all the popular encoders got PSP profiles.
>downloading anime and hardsubbing them yourself
>player comes out that supports softsubs and multi-audio
>homebrew audio player that supports flac, acc, even ogg/opus
>adapter to convert 2x microsd to ms pro duo for insane storage at the time (if you could afford it).

What are you talking about, RDR2 isn't on the Playstation Portable.

>perfect
>one stick
>have to hack it to make it the best one
disqualified

>tfw playing mgs1 on the fucking go
glorious.

Is there a pkgj app for PSP? Where's the go to place to pirate PSP games now?

I'M PLAYING NUT!

Nont that user here. I don't think many people left who could answer that sadly.

at first, it was less fragile than blu-rays. after that, I can't think of any.

HD DVD didn't have load times, which I'm finding is the main turn-off point with blurays for me. Got forbid if it has an interactive menu that tries to fetch new trailers from your network first.

There isn't a market for them any more.

Name 2 games on the PSP that aren't Persona shit that I absolutely have to play. I will get up, get my Vita and play that shit.

Pursuit Force Extreme Justice and Syphon Filter Dark Mirror.

little big planet and resistance retribution

How much were those memory sticks again?
They're about as interesting as the gamecube discs.

>Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max (the definitive edition)
>Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
>Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower
>Samurai Shodown Anthology
>Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection

Please. Who the hell plays fighting games on a handheld?

Tekken5 DR was a really fucking good portable conversion, and probably the fastest load times on UMD for any of the fighting games.

Non AGS-101 GBAs were a fucking mistake. I have one of both models and the difference is night and day, I don't know how the hell Nintendo got away with the GBA's terrible screen before the AGS-101 SPs.

Everything this user listed and
Gitaroo Man Lives
Valkyria Chronicles 2 & 3
Class of Heroes 1 & 2
Dissidia and Dissidia 012
Gurumin
Half-Minute Heroes
The Cladun games
The Kenka Bancho games (Though only Kenka Bancho: Badass Rumble is in English)
Pangya Fantasy Golf
Phantasy Star Portable 1 & 2
Rengoku 1 & 2
Guilty Gear Judgement
Riviera: The Promised Land
Soul Calibur Broken Destiny (if you want a SC on the go)
Tekken 6 (though it doesn't include the 3P costumes, the beat up and mode and its customization is much more limited ala Tekken DR)
THUG 2 Remix (It even has more levels than the PS2/PC version)
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
The Warriors
Brave Story
Me & My Katamari
Brandish The Dark Revenant
K-On! Houkago Live
Final Fantasy Type-0 (The Remastered versions is literally almost the same graphically but with more bloom, different lighting and the same blurry textures. The only thing that has been improved are the models for the main cast)
Tokobot

I did. I would play with a couple of friends and we would pass around my two PSPs playing different fighting games on the bus or at school. It's great, though 6 button fighters really did feel off. Plus, most, if not all of them, were really well made. Tekken DR and GGAC were almost perfect ports.

THUG 2 remix has a bug where it cant detect memory cards above 32 MB.

Mine was hacked from day 1 so I don't really know.

You mean 32gb? It played fine with my 4gb card when I ran through it again last month.

and this is why it lost. Snoyfags are truly desperate at this point

i looked it up, it cant detect cards bigger than 2 GB, but if you have a bigger card and fill it so that there is 2 GB or less left it can work

Wait, what does that even mean? I understand the memory card not detecting games, but in this case does it make it so that the game unable to save your progress?

yeah the game cant save to anything bigger than a 2 GB is where i looked it up. im assuming that when they made the game 2 GB was the biggest size available and they coded it weird to only go for that max size

It lost the market but won my heart.

Ah, alright. Never had a problem like that personally, most people would try and maximise memory size efficiency and have a lot of games in it

kill yourself

80 million units sold is hardly a loss
the DS sold a lot more cause it was for kids and casuals, not gamers

I'm glad it exists because it let me soft mod my xbox

I don't know if this would be considered a controversial opinion, but I thought the PSP had a shit library, even by handheld standards.

>this thumbstick
>perfect

>this library
>perfect

No.

>fighting games on a handheld
>Ps1 ports
>collections

Those are good games user, but playing fightans on a tiny console is retarded even with psp d pad. That meant having several friends with their own psp to even do some versus.

The DS had not that many ports, but it had plenty of hidden gems and its share of great original rpgs
>radiant historia
>etrian odyssey
>SMT, devil summoner, strange journey
>FF3-4, spin offs like Heroes of light, Christal chronicles
>DQ 4-5-6-9
>suikoden tierkreis
>valkyrie profile covenant of the plume
>disgaea 1
>dark spire
and then you had
>ghost trick
>meteos
>phoenix wright
>ni no kuni
>Magical starsign
>layton
>plenty of puzzle games that were fairly decent like picross, zoo keeper, class of heroes
And i m not even counting the nintendo games.
The DS was fucking wild user.

And now we have world which is a button masher and which broke the core game design. The 3DS did good for MH desu senpai. I know I won't touch newer MH before a long time considering my experience with world. 3U was home and 4u and Gen u are all I need for the next decade

What's interesting about a tiny disc inside a plastic case?

Both it and the 3DS got shitty starts. What happened was that Sony fucked the Vita and everyone who trusted them enough to buy a proprietary memory card, while Nintendo doubled down to support their iffy product.

problem with the umd was long load times and shorter battery life rather than the noise

>browsing pichunter and nsfw Yea Forums in the comfyness and privacy of bed
>converting countless porn clips to the shitty format
>or just downloading them from sites designed specifically for the psp
those were the days
I was super into catalina cruz, rachel roxx and sienna west back then, they're nostalgia faps now

And if you want some more
>book of Avalon
>bangai o spiris
>hotel dusk
>Megame ZX and its sequel, the last battle network games
>Castlevania dawn of sorrow, order of eclesia, portrait of ruin
>There was one good sonic game on DS but I don't recall the name
>Harry hatsomething which mixed puzzle and platforming
>7th dragon
>lost in blue
>999

There were quite many experimental games on DS

>still better than the 3ds and switch (generally)
The minimum for those without airplane mode is about to hours.
The psp was roughly 2.

>to
Well that's what I get for phoneposting.
Three to four

>The psp was roughly 2.
Bullshit, I remember my PSP lasting me 4-5 hours of gaming and much longer when just listening to music

Did you replace the battery?
Because the one it comes with is only 2.

Well unless you're just listening to music in which case you could probably get 3.
And and it's worth pointing out that the PSP's batteries were not made to last.

My PSP still has the battery it came with 14 years ago lol. It can't hold a charge for shit now
When the charger broke I bought some shitty chinese charger+battery, the battery was absolutely useless but the charger works ok

>tfw you'll never play AC!D multiplayer with your friend at school lunchtime again

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>$400 NEW

lol no

The most soulful handheld there will ever be. Nintendo has no soul.

I really like the Go

*ruins the console*

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You can replace the 3G modem with an aftermarket SD card reader. Gives you all the benefits of SD2Vita while keeping the card slot free for physical games.

Ooh, that's sounds way better than shoving the SD card into the game slot in order for it to work.

>they nailed the handheld design, nothing has ever been as comfortable since. Not even the Vita.
Took them until 2010 to pull that one off, otherwise you had to choose between features and ergonomics. Also for actually playing outside the house, clamshells have an inherent advantage since they better protect the screen from scuffs.

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>it's already bombing
>compares an exclusive with one of the highest attach rates ever to a multiplatform game

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I like psp for ps1 emulators.

It's the perfect size. The only real pocket sized hand held.

this

I swear i will make Christchurch look like a joke if Vita emulation didnt play Persona 4 Golden Properly before 2020

What did he mean by this

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never had any problem with it and it's not like I have baby hands

I like it, never really had a problem with it. Only thing that sucks is replacing it. Better than 3ds, even replaced the 3ds one with the psp cap.

For me, it was Mike in Brazil and Tranny Surprise

I think it made the direction of games made for it worse more than the hardware itself was a problem.

The best PSP games are playable with the dpad, period.

I have a Vita collecting dust that I stopped using years ago. Is it worth playing? The only game I'm interested in is P4G and some PSP/PS1 titles. I've already played Danganronpa on PC and Gravity Rush, Wipeout and Tearaway on PS4.

What are some good Vita exclusives?

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I dunno user the vast majority of games I played on my PSP were 3D and they all played perfectly fine.
I think the only 2D games I played (not counting gameboy emulation) on it were Patapon and Worms Open Warfare 2

>only owns the vita slim
>6 years later
>still having this stupid argument

pleb
STILL play tekken 6 on my psp. This game hasn't changed much since like 1998

SP hgs101 you mean...

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as one of the few who bought it, i was playing Powered Up on my PSP yesterday. It is comfy as fuck.

based
slim + vitatv is the perfect duo

No, it sucks. You mentioned the best part of it, P4G and PSP titles. And I like playing PSP games on a PSP more.

HSG is not as good as the PSP titles, UC:GA is an ok clone of the first UC at best, and pretty much everything else of note was either an inferior port or ported to a better system. I mean, dusting it off for Persona 4 is not a bad idea at all but don’t expect much more than that.

Holding it in my hands for longer than 30 minutes makes my hands hurt

The analogue stick is also a fucking joke

Also no games except shitty ports u would rather play on anything else

I've mostly only ever played on Nintendo consoles for most of my life but recently picked up a vita to act as an emulation machine.
Pretty good, I like the stick layout.

Idk guys, the PSP had a lot of issues, but I think I probably got more mileage out of mine than any other piece of video game hardware I ever owned. It was just an extremely durable and versatile platform, especially relative to what else was out at the time. The original PSP contextualized vs the DS, and having owned both, while the DS had a few super great titles, the PSP was just better rounded off and more functional with a pretty solid library.

How well does the PSP music player still hold up? Thinking of using my old 1000 as a music player in my car but wondering if I’m better off just sticking to my phone.

>What are some good Vita exclusives?
I think Ys Celceta is still exclusive? Otherwise you’ve played most of the big games that would’ve been worth it.

That said, if you missed any games from the PSP era that forced clawing to control the camera, it’s a much better experience playing them on Vita.

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MH: FU, Tekken DR and Gran Turismo 2 Eboot and that's it, I don't need anything else to be happy. And the peace of mind that lets me know that I always have them there inside that gem ready to play.

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How do you or anyone else in this thread have these problems? My S7 Active lasted 1-2 days without a single struggle. I've gone well over 3 days on my S10+.

You can play FF up to X-2 with a vita, FFT , tactics ogre, persona. As a nintendo player I did'n't have any PS console until the vita so the ps1 catalog was brand new for me.
But for vita exclusives, muramasa and its dlcs, Soul sacrifice, Steins gate, Dungeon travelers 2 are all games worth a shot. Disgaea 4 too if you like the grindan game.
La mulana ex, dragon's crown. That's pretty much it I guess

The analog stick is a fucking nub, the UMD format is shit, and it seriously stretches the definition of "portable". For my money if it can't fit in your pocket (without sustaining serious damage), it's not portable. I never wanted to take my PSP anywhere because it would be so easy to damage the screen, it is basically a home device that doesn't require a TV. For the record the Switch is the same shit but even worse.

this. tons of little girls had the DS. no girls had a psp

>be me
>told a guy I rooted my psp
>asked me if I can root his
>"Sure, I'll do it and I'll give it to ya tomorrow"
>rooting complete
>curious about if it has any image files
>find short video
>be porn
>disappointed-but-not-surprised.mp3
>return the psp
>prefered not to ask about that video

I browse and save porn on my vita when I don't have anything else around

The revised model of the Switch has greatly improved battery life, significantly more accurate colors, slightly increased buttons, improved joycons, better thermals, and potentially some very minor CPU gains. It's the one in the all-red box. Just so you know.

God you people are insufferable.
>unpopular thing GOOD
>popular thing BAD
>thing I liked that got popular BAD
>anime titties SOIFACE GOOOOOD

Have you been in a coma for 13 years?

>greatly improved battery life
It's just 30mins more, dude.