Slayer threat level at maximum

>He cant handdrawn framebyframe animate his own scat porn while wacking it off at the same time
Onehanded Retard alert

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righty works the mouse

Ahhh shit you are right. I had it in my head that this was a different guy but its the same dude from 2, is it not?

Personally I use my different hands to simulate different kinds of fap motions depending on what I'm in the mood for. Right for complete enclosure, and left for using just the index, middle and thumb.

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Doom lore is such a crazy shit that he is and isn't at the same time

partially obscured looks good and also less like halo

There is a chance that he is. Quake Champions says yes.

D44M lore is a bit open ended, all we know is that Doomguy is in hell for as long as demons can remember, and no one ever mentions earth being invaded by demons before the big UAC catastrophe
If its another Doomguy:
We have no fucking idea where he came from and why a human with a high tech armor is in hell since the dawn of time.

If its the same Doomguy:
This means either "time is convoluted" or he is in a parallel reality.

ETERNAL does however seem to pander real hard to "it is actually the OG doomguy" crowd, with daisy and all that.

Is it just me who didnt quite like the redesign of the enemies in Eternal?
Sure, now they are almost identical to the originals, but a part of my brain gets twisted when you entirely redesign all enemies in whats supposed to be a direct sequel.

Any recommendations for fellow scatbro?

>Portal is called a slipgate
How long before the Quake 1 soft reboot/sequel?

From what I've seen, it looks less focused on arenas than 2016. I don't think I saw a single enemy spawn in front of the player, or any doors locked until all the area's enemies had been killed.

I always thought he just spent a long time in Hell after the events of Doom 64.

bait

I kind of like it, but I miss the basic possessed from the last game. Having a giant hole in the center of their faces was more interesting than just giving us generic zombies with pentagrams on their foreheads. Also, I think Hell Knights have eyes now, which makes them a bit less unique, and I'm not sure how I feel about cacodemons having blue mouths/blood.

If he ain’t I have yet to hear a good explanation for Daisy being on the cover art

>If its the same Doomguy:
>This means either "time is convoluted" or he is in a parallel reality.
Doom 2016 takes place in a parallel dimension. Doom 3 also took place in a parallel dimension that was invaded by the same hell, which is referenced in 2016's final level.

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He's definitely A Doomguy, just not necessarily THE Doomguy. There are a bunch of Spider-Men named Peter Parker who have dead Uncle Bens, but they don't all follow identical stories so they're not exactly the same character.

And the Soul Cube being in Pierce’s office.

I quit using my right hand cause I figured it would prevent me from fapping. Apparently humans can adapt through anything.

What is it that you think makes him not the same doomguy?

He always had a face it was just at the bottom of the screen

This image needs to put Doom 64 after 2.

>He doesn't roll his penis between both in hands when jacking off
Imagine only using one hand

Just how fucked was Earth that the only solution was to literally steal energy from Hell?

>Zoomer thread level is at maximum

>just not necessarily THE Doomguy
He is. Him being found in Hell in 2016 lines up with 64's ending of him deciding to stay in Hell.

Yeah, I know. I just couldn’t find a version with Doom 64 in the timeline.

If Doomguy is like a mile away from the building

DEMONIC PRESENCE AT UNSAFE LEVELS.

THERE IS A SAFE LEVEL ?

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id software have some good artists.

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>He chose the path of perpetual torment, seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him.
>Doomguy stays in Hell forever to keep the demons from ever coming back after they killed all his marine buddies, killed his rabbit, and invaded his home town with no survivors
It matches up.

Safe would probably mean just one Possessed.

Suicide in a painful way

SO BADASS! RIP AND TEAR!

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I am now imagining the day to day lives of the non-cultist UAC workers.
>Hey did you hear about Bill?
>No, what happened to him?
>He was tending to the lost soul sanctuary while they figure out to get their old bodies back. Anyway long story short, power decided to cut out for a split second and he got possessed
>Get outta here
>No I am serious!

please tell me this is the final cover art

Steelbook art.

Let me guess. The final cover art is going to be angry man holding gun #2859254215235?

No

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>nintendo switch

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Why is there only one angel

It’s more similar to Doom 4’s alt cover.

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The full version of the art at a high resolution for anyone interested.
I'm glad boxart is coming back as a thing, it looks great.

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It's the only version of the cover I got saved.

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Actually yes.
I remember she saying "acceptable levels" once when there are a couple possessed here and there but the game wasnt going full lockdown

youtu.be/oK73XMgkpc8
Either blind or purposefully ignoring to avoid spoilers

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>non-cultist UAC workers
I dont think those exist.
You know, with the holograms preaching at your face 24/7, im sure they only accept people interested in that kind of stuff

Hell time is abstract isn't it. Time doesnt actually flow there. So him being stuck there for millennia is fine since time is fucked in that dimension

That’s the Kahn Maykr.

There are no angels in the cover.
Samuel is just delusional

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The latter, actually. I mostly watched most of the gameplay reveal and pieces of the E3 videos.

The thing on the left is literally a strogg.

They don't even look like demons at this point. They're just generic aliens.

Why did doomguy ditch the sleeves?

What the fuck is this complaint, they made the demons look more like the demons from the original games as opposed to doom 2016 which I think pretty clearly went for the aliens aesthetic

He’s showing off his muscles to assert his dominance.

Doom Universe is about to get a whole lot more crazy boi

The arch vile will be just a boss fight. Screencap this post.

I believe it.

it's not

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>cyberdemon/tyrant becoming common enemy again
>Archvile becoming boss fight

yamero

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How about no more arena boss fights? How about no more arenas entirely?

Left for dick right for mouse retard

>posting the comic that ruined the entire doom series
yikes

Heres what huge martin has to say about that “"Arenas are a part of Doom,” creative director Hugo Martin says."

I dunno, with all the Night Sentinel imagery and Sam saying 'they are no longer your people to save', it cast some doubts.

I hope they arent really going to do the "doom slayer origin sob story" route

Maybe they wouldn't fit any more.

>Hugo Martin is Creative Director at id Software since 2013

? Is that supposed to disprove anything. I dont agree with what he says by the way. Just pointing out that the arena hallway arena map design philosphy isnt going away

>since 2013
What he says about Doom is not gospel.

I never said that. Im talking about in the context of modern doom

I didn't particularly care for how Doom 4's maps were laid out, but I have a bit of hope the platforming for Eternal will help break up the monotony a bit.

who win Yea Forums

Hey guys judge my classic mixed with new Doomguy setup for next month's weebcon.

The lightning is shit and the red paint is not remotely as bright IRL.

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EVERYONE LAUGH AT THE RETARDED ZOOMER FAGGOT

LET'S ALSO LAUGH AT RETARDED BOOMERS AND YOUTUBERS WHO CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH:
The Doom Slayer is The Doomguy

>Implying he gives a flying fuck what humans and demons call him

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go back

looks really cool, what toy shotgun is that?

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Unironically, kill yourself, faggot contrarian

Everyone take a good, long look. This is nu-Doom's target audience.

wonder who updated his armor and where he was sent to after D44m?

Oh fuck yes.

Looks like one of these.

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I'm feeling the opposite, I'm worried the platforming will be boring and will slow down the gameplay too much.

>a fucking nerf gun

Looks pretty good.

Mostly good, but it needs more green.

According to Hugo Martin is the same armor, canonically speaking. They only changed the design cause they wanted it to be more faithful to the original material.

>Dicklets not using both hands

It's a gift from god that I cherish every day.

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It's a Nerf Shotgun that used to be transparent red. It took some mighty efforts to make it look like it does now. Painted it all black first, then used masking tape on the parts I wanted to keep black, painted the rest metallic, so on and so forth. Then I added small detail, burn marks, blood, etc.

I'm 30 years old, I've played Doom since I was 10, nigger. Stop shitposting and acting like King Doomfan who's opinions are fact you stupid shitposting autist

i like it

Good, but if you arent jacked as fuck its gonna look like shit

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God the people replying to this are retarded.
Yeah the original suit looked better where u can't see his gormless looking mug through the visor.
But yeah maybe they are just trying to bring it's design closer to the original which I'm not against.

Yeah lightning is absolute garbage, but it's actually a nice deep forest green. The clothe are also dark green too. Don't fucking know why it comes out like such garbage.

Hey I'm handy, but I can't do everything and I don't even have time left to build one from scratch, but I plan to along with more weapons.

Have spectres been shown yet? Those and heavy weapon dudes are the only non-boss enemies from the first two games that I haven't seen in Eternal yet.

wtf they made doom guy hot

Dude I know you're jealous you don't have a nice garage to make your own shit into and probably nowhere near the practical skills required to hammer a single nail, but you don't need to samefag so hard.

looks cool user

now you just need to take steroids and get huge

They haven’t been shown yet, but I’m pretty sure they’re still in.

>I'm pretty sure they're still in
[citations needed]

They weren't in D44M despite being in classic Doom, so why assume they'll be in Eternal? Why assume this game will be good?

Yeah, but this is every fucking videogames action character cosplay really. I made sure to custom fit it to my size so it's not too uncanny. I'm not jacked, but I'm in good shape.
Besides, nobody can be jacked like him. Dude looks like Brock Lesnar size give me a break here.

Are you aware open-carrying a real firearm is illegal in most US cities?
Maine and Alaska are dying relics when it comes to gun laws.

What's a better nickname for Doomguy? The Unchained Predator? Or The Hellwalker?

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>Are you aware open-carrying a real firearm is illegal in most US cities?
What the fuck? Open carrying is legal almost everywhere, even the shittier states usually give permits. Not every city in America is New York or Los Angeles, stupid faggot.

>I'm 30 years old, I've played Doom since I was 10
anyone can say that
>nigger.
sorry for doubting you brother

Spectres were in 2016. And Eternal has zombiemen and shotgun guys, so I'd expect them to include heavy weapon dudes so they'll have the full roster of standard enemies. Maybe even nightmare imps, but 64 tends to get overlooked, so I won't hold my breath.

just inject steroids directly into your eyes and that'll get you jacked in no time. pretty much what muscle heads did in the 80s and 90s

Still, you arent getting into an anime convention with a real gun.

It looks good but I think you went too hard on the dirtiness of the armor on the chestplate, I really can't tell if it's that or the reflection from the light source. overall looks good I hope you got abs or a boomer belly

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>The Unchained Predator? Or The Hellwalker?
Cringe.

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Unchained Predator is cool, but too much of a mouthful. Good as a description, but not a name.

Yeah the same way anyone can project on someone that they are zoomers for the convenience of keeping shitposting ITT.
nigger

There's already so many Imp-like fireball throwers that the Nightmare Imp won't be missed.

This needs a skate edit.

What about Doomguy?
Hell call him "Doom Slayer" if you want to be dramatic

What? That's what the demons call him.

guy of doom

nah, doomguy's not "BADASS" enough. RIP AND TEAR!!!11!

Yeah I agree with you on that one, but I didn't want to go for a clean Doomguy, I wanted my design to be inspiref from the old so I wanted to look beaten to absolute fucking shit like I've been in hell since the 90's without a single change of clothes. My costume clothes are ripped, burned and stained with shitton of blood.

That being said that is the first time in my life I make a cosplay. Loooots and lots of trials and error.

>I wanted my design to be inspiref from the old so I wanted to look beaten to absolute fucking shit like I've been in hell since the 90's without a single change of clothes
Nice backtracking.

It genuinely isn't in this context. The demons don't see him as just "a guy". More of a fucking monster.

apocalypse person
Armageddon dude
rapture random

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You mad he’s white, nigger?

John Doom.

>Doomguy
>Doom
>Doom Marine
>Doom Slayer
>Hell Walker
>Unchained Predator
>William Blazcowics III (?)
>Billy Blaze (?)
>Commander Keen (?)
This dude's got too many names.

His name is Billy though.

Then just leave it as Doomslayer if you insist on this interpretation of Doomguy instead of going full retard "demons trapped in room with you".

Nice backtracking how? I said in the first post that it's old mixed with new, but considering I started this before Eternal even got announced and that 2016 Doomslayer has a full set of armor, obviously it can't have too much of the new.
But now that Eternal was announced I'm kinda mad and also glad that they made a suit that is reminiscent of the classic one, but if I had known I would have waited and taken more inspiration from the new getup.

>The Unchained Predator
You're trying waaaay too hard.

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That is literally what he's referred to in-game.

It’s one of his official names in Doom 2016.

Don't forget Commander Keen is doomguy's grandfather

Just another reason to despise nu-Doom. Id is so out of touch.

He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... THE DOOM SLAYER..
youtu.be/5a9E3n_VZRQ?t=49

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He says your people because Sam and the UAC in this universe don't know anything about him other than The Night Sentinels looked up to him. They don't know that the Night sentinels follow him because he is good at fucking up demons. Its the same guy from DOOM 1&2.

It's just a title the demons gave him.

While he did have a face and grunted in pain in the original, its retarded to think that years and years in Hell wouldn't make him into some kinda Unstoppable killing force. D44M clearly showed him as that, the silent walking killing machine. Having his face be more shown isn't necessarily bad, but fuck me those hurt noises are.
They overpower every single other sound and just completely ruin the immersion. Unless there is an option to turn it off I'm gonna regretfully either Pirate this game so I'm not wasting my money or not buying it at all.
At the same time however they're doing shit thats getting my interest like referencing Daisy and Heaven so I'm slowly becoming conflicted on what I want to do

This user is also correct. Having his face be unseen just makes him all the cooler. Its

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Why is there no actual satanic imagery in nu-Dooms interpretation of "Hell"? Is the devil not a part of the Doom universe anymore? It seems like they're going out of their way to not reference anything biblical, one of the reasons why I said earlier the "demons" are basically just generic scary looking aliens now.

>Tempered by the fires of Hell, his iron will remained steadfast through the passage that preys upon the weak. For he alone was the Hellwalker, the unchained predator, who sought retribution in all quarters; dark and light, fire and ice, in the beginning and the end, and he hunted the slaves of Doom with barbarous cruelty, for he passed through the divide as none but demon had before.

That’s just the one of the names that the demons gave to him.

Yeah, I know. I just read your post. I'm saying id is out of touch by writing that into the game.

>Unchained Predator
>The Hellwalker

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Why is there only one angel?

>inb4 Satan was never in Doom
He's literally referenced in the first 10 minutes of Doom 3.

>when they started up Descent into Cerberon
Fucking rad.

>pirating a game because some sound effects

nigger just say you don't want to pay for it, no need to give bullshit reasons.

>Enemies and skulls with goat horns and feet
>Pentagrams and other occult-looking symbols
>Human sacrifices and hearts on pedestals
What exactly do you want? The devil was never referenced in Doom, but it still feels pretty Hellish to me.

The UAC codenamed him DM1-5.

>occult-looking symbols
That don't actually mean anything, they just look superficially "occult".
>The devil was never referenced in Doom
see
>"The devil is real. I know, I built his cage."

It will be absolute garbage just like the last one

Ah I haven't played 3 yet.

Based. Most anons on Yea Forums aren't old enough to remember playing good Doom games, they don't know what they're missing.

Here's my personal belief.
I think they originally left the identity of the Doomslayer ambigious because they wanted to test the waters for fan-reaction. That's why the Knight Sentinal leader and Doomslayer are both mixed up with one another, because the writers couldn't decide if Doomslayer should be this new angry character that's mad because he fucked up and resurrected his own son and sacrificed his own order or the same angry marine from Doom 1 + 2 who just simply ascended and happened to be at the right time and at the right place to replace the old Knight Sentinal Leader who fucked up and betrayed his own order.
The reason for this ambigiouty was to see how fans reacted. If it didn't get a good reaction from old school boomers, then they'd appeal more to the "new character who is an alternate dimension Knight Sentinal leader" thing to distance itself from old Doom and make it it's own thing. This is provable because in Doom 2016, Doomslayer's face model in game looks radically different from his older incarnations.
Now that they've seen old boomers actually enjoy the game and ask for more of the older games content and speculate that Doomguy is Doomslayer. They've started to imply it again, first by hinting at it in Quake Champions with the Daisy codex, then changing his face model in Eternal to look more like classic Doomguy, then downright showing the ghost of the Knight Sentinal Leader on his throne.
Screencap this if I am proven wrong or correct. Will post timeline as a reply.

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Okay boomer. You keep playing your mods. And we'll continue having fun with the newer games.

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>Knight Sentinals fight Demons
>Knight Sentinal Leader betrays Knight Sentinals to bring back his son
>Son becomes Icon of Sin and kills him
>Everything in Doom 1-2 and something resembling it has happened
>Doomguy was possibly given power by the Seraphim when he "died" at the end of Episode 1 of Doom 1
>Doomguy kills Icon of Sin in Doom 2
>Comes back in Doom 64 to finish the job
>Stays in hell
>Leads the Knight Sentinel as their new leader
>Gets new Praetor Armor which is based on a melted down version of his old armour (hence the UAC logo and English writing on the Praetor armour)
>Gets a cool sword and shield too
>Loses everything because Demons trap him in sarcophagus
>Events of Doom 3 happen in altered timeline if that theory is correct and/or something else (to explain why the Doom 3 cube exists in doom 4)
>Doom 4 happens

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what .wad should I play

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>unchained predator
They meant sexual predator, he kills the demons then rapes them

That recent mod called Total Chaos is pretty neat. So is Memoirs of Magic. The doom engine is amazingly versatile and still produces great mods.

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>Gets new sword and shield, too
I think that line was metaphorical, referring to his strength and the Praetor suit's durability.

Everything looks way too busy. Why do people think random greebling makes things look better?

>Give that to me.
>No way, you got your own.
>Well I want yours too.

But the thing is I do want to buy it and support it, like I did for D44M, but those noises really just ruin it all for me. I know its pathetic to do but man, I remember feeling my hype die the moment i heard it in the E3 trailers. It made see the Doomguy not as an unstoppable Force, but as a person. And while that can work for other characters I can't get behind seeing Doomguy as one. At least not in the way they're doing it

if they really want to do stuff like that they just need to do more stuff like the moment where Doomguy saved the AI from death, or gets Pissed the fuck off when he says a dead body as Samuel tries to defend himself. Its moment like those that show his humanity that I can totally get behind. But making grunts that drown out everything else every time soemthing hits him isn't

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How is it rape if they're already dead? It would make more sense if he killed them with his dick.

Him being a mute is fucking dumb because he can get wrecked and killed easily on account of ultimately just being a jumped up dude in a suit, what D44M showed him as hardly matters because it's whole thing was clobbered together on the home stretch.
Making him faceless like Master Chief when we know what he looks like is also retarded and just an excuse to avoid modelling and animating facial expressions.

The sound design needs work but "faceless mute killing machine" is gay

retarded nostalgic boomers strike again, played the orinigal doom a couple of months ago it aged terribly with terrible animations, no aiming(boomers cant aim for shit so ofc they love it), controls are shit,.... you are behind time and useless in todays world

>we'll continue having fun with the newer games.
okay, but you'll grow to realize they have no value, the new games are just disposable entertainment like a blockbuster movie you forget about in a week.

The sounds are an improvement. Now all they're missing are the iconic demon sfx

>tfw you see the lighting on the stairs

>saying boomers can't aim while he worships a game that amounts to "PRESS F TO WIN AND PLAY BADASS ANIMATIONS"

Promo shots don't mean that much, unfortunately.

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That demon is like missing half of its chest. How is it even moving?

are you forced to play like that? go back to your original doom and look only left and right so you dont hurt your brain

>go back to your original doom and look only left and right
Have you never used GZdoom?

It’s a demon. They’re supposed to be hard to kill.

It brings new meaning to rip and tear

GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING Yea Forums! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Steve (yes, THE Steve from Minecraft) getting confirmed in Smash Ultimate! Make sure to save your tears for the fighters pass when Steve walks into the spotlight!

>b-but Doomguy has a good history with Nintendo! He’s gotta be in!
“No!”

Sorry Doom fags, but the 2nd Western rep is taken by yours truly! Why would Nintendo choose an obsolete nameless brute character over the marketing potential of the highest grossing game of the 21st century? Sakurai went way out of his way to talk up Persona 5 before Joker's reveal, guess what other game he's talked up? That's right, it's Minecraft! The DLC characters have also been confirmed to be “surprising” according to the developers, so I’m afraid your weeks of crying for Doomguy are going to be subverted once again with the reveal of our favorite underdog! But feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!

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>the first time in my life I make a cosplay
Get the visor tinted. Some cosplayer are more confident and have more fun on the showfloor when people can't see the cosplayer face

I'm glad you can enjoy/ignore them user but they just ruin everything for me. It needs some fixing to be less LOUD or at least an option to turn it off. But to each their own

Just ignore him Yea Forums.

Trumpets over here always makes me wonder. Do demons even eat? Are they based off of humans? Why are they based off of humans if they live in their own realm? If their origin is human, what made them transform in the first place? If argent energy, why does argent energy do that?

no because i dont play shit games

Steve posting was dead when Banjo got announced.

>Some cosplayer are more confident and have more fun on the showfloor when people can't see the cosplayer face
Kind of like furfags.

I dont disagree they could be quieter fosho

Hahaha holy shit Stevefags are trying to do this to Doomguy now? After getting completely destroyed?
Part of me wants them to continue, cause not only would seeing Doomguy in Smash be fucking awesome, but so would seeing Steven getting wreaked twice

>I think that line was metaphorical, referring to his strength and the Praetor suit's durability.
Maybe for the Shield. But the sword is proven to exist. It's not the Crucible either, the hilt is fashioned to have the Doomslayer's symbol. I recall betting with a friend over whether or not Doomslayer will have a sword in Eternal and I was actually proven correct.
I would've also taken it for a metaphor had it not been for Hayden retrieving and welding the crucible as a sword which seems to be some sort of demonic counterpart towards Doomguy's sword. I am really curious to see what they do with it.

You lost to a fucking Bear and his gay Bird. Your shit-talking privileges have been taken away, Zoomer.

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I can't deny that

Revenants are actually humans corrupted by demonic energy though, created by the UAC

Smash posters leave and never return

Doom dude

If you're talking about the Revenant, Doom 2016's codex entries give context.

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It is implied in 2016's data logs that there are several tiers of Demon and when your dimension is absorbed into hell your species becomes demonic. From what we know, Pinkies, Imps, Summoners, Cacodemons, Mancubi, Hell Knights/Barons, Cyberdemons and the Spider Master mind are all native demons of hell. Possessed, Hell Razers, Lost Souls and Agitated skeletons are humans who became possessed by hell. The agitated skeleton is literally an experiment by 4's UAC where they blast a human strapped to a life support jetpack with argent energy until their skeleton grows three times as big and they are completely demonic.

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Sunlust

The revenant?

>no aiming
Doom is only half about aiming the other half being movement/positioning etc and the autoaim is a moot point.
it's not some point and click at popup targets shooter

Yes. Agitated Skeleton has been the meme name for the revenant for years.

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Slayer is the parallel dimension Doomguy where instead of going back to rebuild Earth he instead was captured by demons and sealed away.

Are you guys excited for my movie?

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That’s STILL being made?

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seethe

soulless

I really don't get the process of this shit
>Have rights to an IP's movie
>Sit on it and do nothing
>Getting close to right expiry
>Shit out a low budget movie and right it off as a failure to keep the rights.
>Sit on it again until you have to shit out another movie
If you are literally not going to do anything with it other than shit out a movie so you can sit on it, why the fuck do you bother to have it?

No, he threw himself in Hell on purpose in 64.

only if she spends most of the movie in her underwear ripping and tearing and screaming like a menstruating lioness

There is already a Doom movie and it's kino.

thanks my guy

Personally I think 2016 Mancubi are possessed aliens, and Eternal/original game Mancubi are possessed humans

youtube.com/watch?v=bkhXSLmRbiE

*write, the word right is now stuck in my head.

>Doom movie where the threat isn't actually demons or hell, but most of the time "zombie" people, 1 pinky and 1 hell knight equivalent.
Yeah no. I will give you the first person scene though.

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thanks, bout to check it out

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No. Give me a movie that combines the plots of the first game and the 2016 game. Doomguy gets sent to Mars for attacking his superior officer who ordered him to fire on civilians, Olivia Pierce creates a Hell Wave that kills or possesses everyone on Phobos and sends Deimos to Hell, Doomguy fights through Phobos, Deimos, and Hell with Hayden guiding him and getting angry at him for blowing up the Argent energy production, he kills the Spider Mastermind and everything seems good until he sees that demons invaded earth, too. Roll credits.

Doomguy played by Dave Bautista, Pierce played by Tilda Swinton, Hayden played by his VA from the game.

its like that time someone made a fantastic four movie just for the sole reason the the license was gonna expire so the movie was made and wasn't even shown in theaters or anything the studio just went "yeah we made a movie"

When will studios take video game movies seriously? Yes, I know we had Mortal Kombat and Detective Pikachu but we need a consistent trend and not outliers.

I wouldn't mind this

>Doomguy
Based.
>Doomslayer
Cringe.

Ironic that Fantastic 4 movie although unreleased is pure cheese kino unlike most super hero movies that were coming out at the time.

fuck Bautista would actually be a pretty good pick

Who needs a Doomguy?

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Only plebs stroke the shaft for masturbation.

What about Doom Marine.

That’s Doom 3 Guy.

So basically Godzilla except with Doomguy.

>#takingover
>#boss

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>og doomguy started fighting to survive before finding a new goal after dying
>doom 3 doomguy is the version of doomguy where he did the same except die and found his own goal not given to him by a knight or anything
I would actually love to see how other different doomguys deal with the demon invasion in their own timeline

Come to think of it, what ever happened to the Corporal?

Thats okay. also yes, Doom 3 guy works too.

Both the D1 and D2's marines being all "I'm going to die but I'll take as many demons with me as possible" was much better than D16's "I'm too angry to die." It at least kind of builds off the fact that the D1 marine decides to stay in Hell at the end of D64, but even that's supposed to be a bit of a resignation to a necessary bad end for a fatigued and desperate character, rather than being some sort of "badass that eternally terrifies the demons."

>Not Crash
I hate how fucking little of a shit the writers/actors care about the lore of the shit they actually
produce.
>Durr look female character never been done before
Except it has, and her name is Crash and she's in dire need of a cool standalone movie before she mentored Doomguy.
Why the fuck are you wasting that possibility on something as garbage as this?

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If he keeps fighting and winning it would eventually turn into pure unadulterated rage. Who knows how many countless dimensions he saw hell trying to absorb.

>mfw i just want to read the codex entry for the new demons
I just fucking love this lore i can’t help it

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>Doom secondaries
embarrassing.

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Same. The lore is underrated. I love the demon designs and with how eternal has much more than ever, it's going to be great.

Seriously Nu-Doom pretty much ruined the series.
Its like the Resident Evil 4 of Doom, except less good gameplay wise.

I like that every demon hates the Lost Souls.

>tfw UAC have regular paid "vacations" to hell where they get to interact with the wild life

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>we will never get a doom movie where doomguy is a silent protagonist with a focus on visual storytelling.

I also like how Pinkies are the bottom of the food chain.

Imagine the salt that could be mined by a similarly-known male actor posting "who needs a #doomgirl"

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Fucking HOW. Lemme guess. Mick Gordon? Hugo and Marty? Doomguy being titled Doom Slayer? Or the gameplay not suiting your tastes?

accurate, I thought they would turn it around with eternal but they are just doubling down instead.
At least Indie shooters are still carrying the torch
>gameplay not suiting your tastes
yeah it's not Doom or id at all, they completely trashed the design principles they should have used as a foundation.
>Hugo martin
yeah I do think most of the blame lies with him.

Don't you have a boomer-era WAD you should be downloading?

Changing the game pretty much completely and just slapping "doom" on top of it.
It caught on with the wrong type of crowd, and that crowd is the one leading direction of the franchise
that crowd being easily impressed normie metal heads and most of the normie crowd, who is also easily impressed.
stop getting mad at me for telling you the truth, idiot.

When you get someone in power to make/hire someone who actually wants to showcase the source material in a positive light. Superheroes weren't thought of as bigtime moneymakers until Richard Donner and Tim Burton came around, followed by Bryan Singer and Sam Raimi. You'll have to wait for the people who grew up on all the 90s games to become a bigtime movie producer.

>if he keeps fighting and winning, it would eventually turn into pure unadulterated rage
D64 makes it clear that the D1 Marine was, to some extent, traumatized and exhausted by the Phobos Invasion. If anything, staying in hell would be more likely to drive him insane than the kind of righteous anger that they went for with D16.
>who knows how many countless dimensions he saw Hell trying to absorbed
It's implied that the marine from D2 and Final Doom blew a big enough blow to Hell to reduce the invasion forces to nil. D64 was only able to happen because the Mother Demon was just barely able to break containment and revive a sizeable. The D1 Marine's job was basically just to wander hell, nipping buds for the rest of his life.

That's not to say that the scenario D16 went with was impossible, it's just that they made a conscious effort to change direction from the track for characterization that the franchise was already on, and there's an argument to be made that it's less engaging than the hail-mary-plan mindset of the original marines.

>game is not doom nor id
Imagine being mad that every new doom game is not the same as the original doom. Times, tastes, and franchises all evolve and grow. Why haven't you?

>my opinion is the truth

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>NuDoom
Classic Doomguy was a badass even without a million unskippable cutscenes telling the player how badass he was.

You all cream yourselves over that "slayer has entered the facility" cutscene, but I doubt any of you will even appreciate on your subsequent playthroughs when the game will force you to watch them each and every time you play that level. And the chances that you can skip them will be impossible if they happen to do that stupid shit of masking loading screens.

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I wonder where doom 3 fits in, I always kind of had the impression Doom 3 shared a universe with Quake 2/4, Due to the really similar aesthetics and the 60+ year gap between Between the events of the strogg war and the demonic incursion.

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Doom 3 is probably just it’s own separate universe, but it was invaded by the same Hell from the others Doom games.

>the game will never actually look like this

>It's good because it's new
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>it's bad because it's new
big cringe, my bluepilled friend

Doom 3 may be in the altered timeline section seeing as we can find the Soul Cube in Hayden's lab and we can find a sarcophagus with the mural of Doomguy in Doom 3, which the devs may have used as inspiration for Doom 4's plot.

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Whenever I see people complain about Nudoom having long unskippable cutscenes it instantly tips me off that they didn't actually play it

as much as you scream at me, This is not what Doom is.
Doom was never about quick time events, glory kills, segmented arena combat, it was never about deep lore or one single antagonist.
It was about finding exits, exploration, about being the one lonely survivor, about fighting the odds alone with nothing but your own resources it was also about tricks, traps, surprise encounters, roaming enemies. It wasnt an over the top spectacular ridiculous explosion.
You were just one dude who got lucky enough to survive, and went on a quest to kill shit that threatened you by extent, the rest of the world.
You probably wont understand what im talking about since this is the first entry to the doom series but people who really love the original franchise knows what im talking about.

She seems way too confident for someone being in a C-tier direct-to-DVD "we're only making this to keep the license" movie.

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Show me a single cutscene in NuDoom that is skippable.

no it's bad because it's just bad and no ammount of fancy graphics and animation can change that.

>it's just bad
Now I see you have zero grounds for your argument. Thank you for being honest, have a great day

Did you like the Quake Champions lore tidbits too? I also love shit like this too.

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She’s a dumb cunt.

Maybe though Doom 3 and Doom 2016 are only 4 years apart, That's a not a lot of time for the UAC to resituate itself on mars after the disaster.

>it's bad because it's just bad

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>Doom 3 may be in the altered timeline section
It makes more sense for 3 to take place in a parallel dimension, since that concept is already a part of 2016's lore.

Not him, but I liked Ranger’s lines and lore.

there are definitly a couple where you just wait around while they force feed you exposition and others where you press button as well as every thing you interact with in the environment being coming with a baked animation.

And Doom 3 was initially going to have a secondary antagonist called General Hayden, but he was scraped and replaced with Kelly later. He does show up in the Doom 3 novels as a survivor though.

nudoom would be so much better without glory kills, dumb ass mechanic.

Well maybe if you retards had shut the fuck with your "rip and tear" memes it wouldn't exist.

The Doom comic is a treasure.

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The GKs would be fine if they were faster. There should be no GK that is as long as the one where you shove a glowing core down a Mancubi's throat. That is just way too long and breaks the pace of battle.

The glory kill mechanic would fine if it didn't make enemies stagger.

They are faster with rune, along with the Berserk kills and Chainsaw kills.

Dismantling it isn't difficult everything about it is poorly designed/implemented.
Where to even begin with you idiots though?

people say is Heyden new body soo the whole Angels being the enemy might be a troll movie by ID

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Except you literally can't skip any of the cutscenes, you worthless lying sack of shit.

The worst sequence in the entire game is when you're locked in Hayden's office then forced to sit and listen to his bullshit before you're allowed to leave. He will literally wait and force you to follow him before he starts his lecture, too.

No it's not clever art making me hate a character as if I was actually doomguy, it's just plain bad design and worse "gameplay".

I fucking loved Doom 2016 but I refuse to let shills like you flat-out lie about how good it is. It has several glaring flaws that need to be addressed if the franchise is ever to reclaim the throne.

From the bottom of my heart,
FUCK OFF SHILL

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>Or the gameplay not suiting your tastes?
no shit
why's it even called doom

why don't more games do that centered gun doom shit that old games used to have?

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My only problem with it is that it locks you into place killing whatever movement you had going on, which is suicide on difficulties like Ultra Violence. I like the idea of the mechanic, it advocates you get into the fight as much as possible, but as is it definitely needs work. A good place to start is momentum based glory kills. If you are moving, you perform a different animation that keeps your current movement speed and direction. The faster you are the faster the animation ends and the more gory it is (To incentivize people to go as fast as possible)

Ever held a gun before?

It honestly baffles me how so many reviewers wrote about how Doom 2016 never forced story down your throat.

It's perfectly justifiable to pirate a game if one aspect of it makes it hard to enjoy.

For example, I have trouble enjoying games that cost money, which is why I pirate.

Because it makes it look like the player is a weird mutant with an arm growing out of their chest.

It's quite simple, really: they want you to appreciate the work they've done on modeling the weapon. That is also why gun models in most FPS games these days tend to hog up insane amounts of screen space.

That's because their frame of reference isn't the entirety of video game history, it is games like Last of Us, Uncharted and the like.

Right, but why is realism so important to you?
Ableist
Surely gameplay should come first?

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Because it's fucking stupid. I'm not surprised weeb trash can't pick up on that, though.

It's seriously the one and only thing I will not defend about 1, 2, and 64.

its litarly the same one

They do that for performance reasons. The more the gun covers up, the less needs to be rendered behind it. Thanks, consoles.

Different dimension. The hell in doom spans multiple dimensions.

>Why is realism so important to you?
I like being able to look down and not have an object obscuring the center of the screen Then again we're talking about replicating DOOM so maybe I don't need to look down.

>Except you literally can't skip any of the cutscenes, you worthless lying sack of shit.
He's likely referring to the dozens of hologram cutscene things you can run past. iirc, there's only two sequences where you're forced to sit and listen to someone talk, and I think they both involve Hayden. Their inclusion feels weird since the rest of the game seems to present its narrative in a more fast-paced fashion. Maybe they're just leftovers from when the game had a more grounded-narrative.

kys you utter retard

What do you think is stupid about it? I always use it whenever I play Doom.

>akshually, he's probably speaking of non-cutscenes when he specifically types out cutscenes
go fuck yourself

>The hell in doom spans multiple dimensions.
It's more like hell is a single, parasitic dimension that reaches out into other dimensions.

you're alright, user

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How do you feel about Half-Life 2?

>not have an object obscuring the center of the screen
So you prefer to have an object obscuring 1/4th of your screen?

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Yeah, I never really got why you'd ever look down in an FPS unless it's really slow and atsmopheric or something.

I feel like it's more important for me to see what's down the middle. I can always turn slightly if I need to.

>non-cutscenes
They're animated setpieces that involve characters talking to each other in order to give further insight on the game's narrative. They're cutscenes.

Not Crash
Not Doomguy
It's shit

If I'm on an elevated platform I can look down to shoot at dudes below me. Or I could look up to shoot dudes above me. Either or

That guy was lying but the unskippable sequences are short as fuck and they are few and far between. I would hardly say its a "glaring flaw." 2016's main issue is its level design and reliance on arena combat.

I never said I mod it out or turn it off, you fuckin' brainlets. I routinely play wads and I have only ever played with an alternate view when it's what the modder wants. I don't even like Brutal Doom either. It fucks up the core combat dance way too much.
Doom 1 is my all time favorite game so you can fuck right off with your thoughtless bullshit.

To say growing a gun out of the center of your chest isn't fucking stupid means you are likely retarded, regardless of age.

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Those stupid pseudo-cutscenes are worse the plain old regular cutscenes, at least I can skip those on subsequent playthroughs.

Does anyone actually care about the "LE DARK SOULS INVASION-INSPIRED PVP SYSTEM!" bullshit?

I really feel like that's the one aspect of the game that is barely ever talked about.

>Game lets you chose the X and Y position of the gun on your screen

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Shame it's extremely obvious that the guns were not designed for center viewmodels, with the majority just covering up a metric shitload of the bottom and the path still being from the right despite visually coming from the bottom center. Eternal might fix the path since QC did but it's definitely not gonna make center viewmodels actually better.

Yeah, the fundamental problem with those pseudo-cutscenes is that they're very likely a way of masking loading screens, so they can never really be removed by future technology. Someone who plays these games in 2050 will still have to sit through these cutscenes.

I'm just waiting on what is the selection of Demons first before I make any decision If I could go say Archvile or Arachnotron I'd be happy.

Centered guns are there to "simulate" ads, it's not necessary anymore.

>Someone who plays these games in 2050 will still have to sit through these cutscenes
oh no. the horror.

Archvile is confirmed.

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>Pain Elemental
>Archvile
>Marauder
Fuck yeah

I can't stomach it anymore. I love all the source mods but the story bores me to sleep now. I will say certain levels feel more open-ended which is almost making me want to boot up right now but I have sit through enough forced cutscenes in my life where I am just sick of them.
Same goes for the intro to Half-Life 1. I love the game itself way more than 2 though because there's significantly less down time. I generally feel nothing but resent for the series. It's Symphony Of The Night syndrome for me. Altogether I enjoyed them, but the negative impact it had on the industry/franchise taints my own experience.

None of this applies when I am trying a new game. If I choose a story-driven game, I'm not retarded. I know full well that there are going to be lots of cutscenes.

But holy fuck does that shit need to stop infecting other genres. Doom is not a fucking story game. Period.

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There are only really two scenes in the game that're noticeably long and unskippable on consecutive playthroughs, and that's the initial exposition dump at the end of level 2 and Hayden's office.

I usually just get up and grab some water or take a piss or something when they come on. Ultra Nightmare's actually tense enough that I appreciate the brief break in action.

Definitely injected in as a mandated gimmick, like how after FO3/NV/Skyrim you had all those games tacking on the exact same lockpicking system. I'm pirating the game so I'll enjoy not having to deal with that, not like the multiplayer will be anything to write about anyways since it's FUCKING OUTSOURCED AGAIN LIKE D44M

The story infection began with Doom 3 and there's no going back. This is your life now. Accept it.

Unskippable cutscenes in a fucking Doom game is a glaring flaw. I am not trying to say it's the biggest problem overall. Fuck off.

>Not switching to your left to keep the engine running while using your right to navigate the sea

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>he doesn't mount his gun on his dick

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Apparently Hugo wanted Doom to be an action first, story second kind of game.

>like how after FO3/NV/Skyrim you had all those games tacking on the exact same lockpicking system.

It's amazing just how much of a negative influence the 7th generation of games has been when you really think about all the trends they've inspired and normalized in videogames. Its impact can still be felt today and will likely not go away.

They have only said 2 things.

You can turn Invasions off if you are casùl
Doompal and the Demons are customizable

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This post is something that a 14 year old would find badass

feels like someone is jerking you

You're being a nigger.

I cant believe Hayden is fucking dead. He did nothing with that sword.

I'll probably elect to ignore it.

Alright, I am the original guy. It is a bit misleading to say that there are no unskippable cutscenes, I would agree that I was wrong, and I'm sorry for not elaborating properly. The thing is that these sections are extremely few and far between to the point where it is not a big issue. My biggest issue with the game is that I feel it retreads Doom 1 too much. While almost everything works very differently from how it used to, there's only 1 or 2 new weapons, 1 or 2 new demons, 1 new boss, and the spiderdemon is the final boss again. I don't think that Doom 2016 is a perfect game, and I do think that they should remove shit like Hayden forcing you to sit there and listen, but you also have to admit that this complaint is way too small and inconsequential for the number of times it's brought up in every Doom thread. Why not complain in every doom thread about the actual issues with the game, not the fact that for about 3 minutes in every playthrough you are frustrated and have to sit through a boring cutscene?

They also force you to listen for at least a little bit.

>it's FUCKING OUTSOURCED AGAIN LIKE D44M
It's been stated multiple times that it's being done in-house.

It's actually because Hugo Martin's favorite dev is Fromsoft and his favorite game is Bloodborne.

He has openly explained that the glory kill mechanic was directly inspired by the rally system in Bloodborne. Attacking is usually the best reaction to anything.
Now there's dashes and stamina in Eternal.

I am willing to bet there is going to be some kind of bootleg Hunter's Dream in the form of heaven/sentinel homeworld and the demonic presence meter is tied to how you progress the story.

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It's more or less the hollywood stylings taking over video games, companies want to copy other games to the point that you could be looking at three different series and they all look exactly the same and consumers have become too retarded to learn how to play anything that's even slightly different both in mechanics and production quality.
Doesn't mean it's bad to try out something that's been done before, it's just it might not even belong in a particular game at all.

I just want to skip cutscenes after I've beaten the game, man.

Why is that so much to ask?

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Why can’t you just wait like a normal person.

>Can't play as caco

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You could in Doom 4's multiplayer.

Which is what makes it so frustrating.
Why is this the one and only thing in which he contradicts himself?
He's seriously a dying relic when it comes to how he approaches game design. I know he can do better.

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Maybe Caco is playable. Barons and Revenants are playable too.

>I am the original guy
Adam?

holy shit dude thats fucking crazy

Original poster that those 3 are replying to

>play game to not play game
right

Eternal looks to be a huge improvement from what 2016 was.

I played doom 4's multiplayer once in some MP beta thing and never looked at it again, was it any good?

It's not hard to improve on garbage.
It had loadouts.

No. It was like Halo, but worse.

just wait 10 seconds you ADHD child, do you get pissed at loading screens too?

I appreciate your honor, user. You deserve a sincere response.

Unfortunately this matter utimately boils down to personal taste.
I have tried to make it clear my biggest gripes are far from the cutscenes, but to say unskippable cutscenes in Doom is not a problem crossing a line with me. That's wrong. There is no need for unskippable cutscenes at all. Even Doom 3 let you skip SOME cutscenes. Half-Life style set-pieces have no place in Doom. I cannot be convinced otherwise. I don't expect to convince anyone either. I will not just accept it, though.

Hugo Martin is very clearly talented enough to not need them. There is no excuse for it.

>do you get pissed at loading screens too?
Not him but yes.

>Do demons even eat?

Samuel literally says theyre natural cannibals and turn on each other when nothing else is around

Loading screens are a necessary evil. Cutscenes are a... well, they're just shit.

I never want answers to any of those questions.

Also I forgot to mention that all the other problems have been addressed.

No more constant arenas.
Demons now roam around and infight(not scripted infighting like in 2016)
Levels are claimed to be more open-ended.

All I have left to worry about is unskippable cutscenes. Which in all reality is a good thing.

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Obviously Doomguy was still just stretching his legs and rubbing the sand out of his eyes throughout D44M, he literally only just woke up at the start. He's wide awake now in Eternal, hence why he's more mobile and able to grunt again.

>Hugo MartinHugo MartinHugo MartinHugo MartinHugo MartinHugo MartinHugo Martin
Jesus, are those the only nouns you know?

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I can get that they made Doom Slayer's origins ambiguous but as far as I can tell the whole thing about him being the guy who betrayed the sentinels is just a wild interpretation of that bit of the lore.

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>Levels are claimed to be more open-ended.
At least they're still levels in eternal. Screencap this post, the next Doom game will be open world.

That Pain Elemental plush always bothers me how it uses some stock explosion graphic in its mouth. I'd totally buy one if it not for that flaw.

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why is there a chimpanzee doing an ollie

imagine discussing the lore about a game thats entire point is story gay, gameplay fun.

>it's okay when video games don't let you play them

Fuck you, retard.

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Just take a break.

>a game thats entire point is story gay, gameplay fun.
What game are you talking about?

take a guess Sherlock, maybe the one that has you punching monitors that spout exposition.

classic style

AMOEBAAAA
AMOEBAAAA AAAA
AMOEBAAAAAAAAAAA

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Fallout 1 or NV??

>maybe the one that has you punching monitors that spout exposition.
Yeah, in an unskippable minicutscene.

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id software took over and saved it. They made it function more like an arena shooter but with demonic transformation as a power-up.
It's currently better than most online shooters but it's too late. Everyone already gave up on it, and trolls pounce on the hate train every time it's brought up.

>He doesn't know

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oh you poor thing, someone disagreed with you? how dare he!

Doomguy is perfect since it works as a name and also identifies him as "the guy from Doom"
Whereas DOOM SLAYER could be anything from a metal album to an endgame weapon from a final fantasy game.

Wow you're right, it established that exposition dumps are retarded in a cutscene, that makes it an exposition dump right? Now lets get back to discussing doomguys origins in this lore-rich setting. You're actually fucking retarded lmao.

The only thing id really did for the multiplayer was make the DLC free and remove the lootbox-y aspect to unlocks. Other than that, it's the same shit Halo cone it's always been.
t. played it a bunch with friends

>Now lets get back to discussing doomguys origins in this lore-rich setting.
I'm not that guy, though. I don't give a shit about doomguy's origins and I just want to shoot demons without pressing F to be badass or watching an unskippable cutscene about how lame cutscenes and stories are.

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the story interrupts you in a meaningful way at a grand total of twice, and lets you tear shit up the rest of the time. youre right that its not the biggest deal, but it's not the enourmous flaw you're making it out to be either.

Then why even reply to me lmao, my last post stands, you're actually retarded.

Who are you quoting?

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That's two times too many. Classic doom has the levels begin and are completely uninterrupted until you reach the end of the level, then you get your stats screen. That's it. That's beautiful.

>exposition dumps are exposition dump

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that's what the blue digits are for, einstein

>I have no argument but I must reply

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ok

That's not at all how the timelines work

>it established that exposition dumps are retarded in a cutscene
Do you know what an oxymoron is?

>Cutscenes are always exposition no exception
Do you know what a moron is?

Why did Hayden trust Pierce enough to give her a personal part of the UAC facility isolated from everything else studying demons in a close environment? Surely he would've known pierce, who is already fucked up, would've been influenced with the exposure to Argent Energy.

>Do you know what an oxymoron is?
do you know what an ad homonym is?

I'm pointing out that your argument makes no sense since you're contradicting yourself.

through namecalling?

Unskippable cutscenes and dioramas in a video game are a massive flaw and there is absolutely nothing on this earth that will convince me otherwise.

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I didn't call any names or insult you, I was just pointing out that what you said was an oxymoron.
>Cutscenes are always exposition no exception
In D44M's case they all exist to shove the story down your throat or remind you how badass the Doom Slayer™ is.

Stop stealing my argument you fucking faggot, that cuck's not me and I wouldn't argue in such a pussified manner. A BLOO BLOO HE INSULTED ME, actual adults are talking here you cunt.

Ha ha how is slayer a threat, just seal him off dude haha like make him sleep again.

>hurr it's not an insult when you -are- a moron
fuck of retard

my dicks going to be the unchained predator goin straight into your demon hole

>hurr it's not an insult when you -are- a moron
So you don't know what oxymoron means. Ok.

How did you get so smart, user?

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So you don't know what fuck off means. Ok.

GAMEPLAY BAD
CUTSCENE GOOD

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Probably just that she's his best scientist, so he felt obligated to give her what she wants so she would keep up the good work and not quit.

Nah don't worry I got no problem with public pressure. It's not my first con in a costume, it's just the first costume I've made myself.

ARGUMENT BAD
WOJAK GOOD

Damn, you got me.

Yeah, I missed some of your responses because I was doing something so I didn't update for a while and then I decided to write my response. I am not frustrated with you specifically, and I agree that it doesn't need to be in the game, I am frustrated with the fact that people bring it up in every thread and just derail it into he said she said tiers of retard A saying that the game is filled to the brim with unskippable cutscenes every 5 seconds and retard B saying that the game is perfection (and I will admit that I fed into that a little bit with my original post)

Apophenia or Easter egg?

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looks intentional to me

>shit game threat level: maximum

That’s probably an Easter Egg.

Definitely, I am not rejecting it altogether as a possibility, but I never understood how people came to the conclusion that Doomslayer was the Betrayer just because the Betrayer was mentioned in the Codex. It makes no sense, especially seeing as the Knights Sentinel treated Doomguy with tons of respect in Doom 2016 and the lore pretty much has them praise him. So it would make no sense for him to be the betrayer. Really I am just humouring people who believe that theory by saying it MAY have been a possibility at some point in development, but at the point Doom Eternal is, I highly doubt it. Although personally I believe 2016 Doomslayer was supposed to be Doom 3 Marine (his leaked 2016 face model looks similar to the Doom 3 one) but then they changed it to OG Doomguy in Eternal and QC once they realised Boomers liked OG more, kinda glad they did honestly, because Doom 3 Marine just doesn't fit.

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>can't break its teeth out and fuck its meaty facehole with your doomcock until you nut so hard it explodes

>original doom 3 had more but better cutscenes
>and THOSE you could skip
Legitimately convinced that much of nudoom's downtime is solely due to console load limitations.

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>tfw no hd44m

All .wad are canon.
H-Doom.

I've always been a sucker for lore in games where it's just flavor.

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Appeasing the doom fanbase isnt even that hard
Just name her Crash or anything Blazkowicz, dont have her at ground zero (thats doom guy's job) and instead send her as a backup from earth, and make the movie a 80's slaughter fest that doesnt even try to be scary

noice

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I preferred no face as well. Just made him look angrier to me because I'd have to imagine his facial expression. But I'll be in first person most of the game anyway and he did have a face in the original

I dont think so. The only few big cutscenes are exposition dumps, and there are several levels without any stop.

>tfw UAC treat Hell like Thailand where they fuck the demons there for hell cash

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As far as I can figure the betrayer stuff is just to serve an explanation for them losing to Hell and Hell acquiring argent superpowers.

>but it's not the enourmous flaw you're making it out to be either
HL2-esque cutscenes are an enormous flaw of any game they're featured in. It's one thing to have an immersive, first person cutscene that you can just skip, but being stuck in a room with someone yammering narrative points at you with no way to skip past it is honestly pretty stupid, and I'm surprised the concept was still present in games as late as 2016.

Hell, even Far Cry 2 gave the player an immersive option to skip these kinds of segments, and that was released in 2008.

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This exactly

Keep your Smash shit out of this Doom thread

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>we’ll finally get lore on prowlers (and hopefully harvesters) instead of them just being reduced to multiplayer power ups since they were briefly seen in the 2019 E3 gameplay
Fucking finally

Goddamn is this fucking badass.

Seconds before that blade is plunged into that demons eyeball.

thats a badass looking sword!

Reminder that Brutal Doom is:

1. Free
2. Can run on any toaster
3. Is faster and harder than NuDoom
4. Has near-infinite content thanks to all the wad maps out there
5. Does not shove story down your throat
6. Has Glory Kills but doesn't force you to use them

Play Brutal Doom instead. It's the true successor to classic Doom.

>Brutal Doom
>not burl_tumd

Anything made by Brazilian shitskins does not qualify as a true anything other than garbage pile.

You unleashed the lorefags. God have mercy

>[Brutal Doom]'s the true successor to classic doom
ISHYGDDT

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Or maybe I'll say fuck you and play both.

>Play Brutal Doom instead. It's the true successor to classic Doom.
>true successor to classic Doom
>reloading

Also classic Doom doesn't need a successor you faggot. Just use Smooth Doom and nashgore.

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Doomguy is part Jewish. He's directly related to BJ from Wolfenstein.

>tfw still haven't played any Doom game
I really, really want to play the reboot so badly. Is the Switch version worth it?

>Doom Guy is gay now and fights angels because he hates God for smiting fags

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Nigger, go download a source port, find the iwads of Doom, Doom 2 and Final Doom, install and play through the first two games first. Consider playing D44M later. Switch version runs a bit on the poor side but the fact they managed to do it in the first place is a miracle. God bless Vulkan.

who are you quoting?

>Is a fps on console worth it?
I guess if it's your only option.

The plot description for the game

Why do you need to simultaneously jack off and use the mouse? Do you stroke your dick while clicking on multiple videos?

What enemy is that on the left with with the metal arms and face? Are they supposed to be cyber hell knights?

>Cyber versions of demons that don't have them
>Cyber Pain Elementals
>Cyber Archvile

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>wanting to play Doom
Enjoy running out of ammo for whatever bull reason

>videos
cuck

I really like enemy designs in eternal and how they're more faithful to the first 2 games. I'm not being a nostalgia fag, they just generally look better. The simplicity makes them look scarier, the more detailed and insect-like they are, the more generic it feels. The cyberdemon in Doom 2016 looked fucking terrible. To show my un-bias, the hell knights and baron of hell in Doom 2016 look really good, much better than the original.

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>Cyber Baron

>caring about the story in DOOM
I fucking hate how nuDoom added all this '"expanded universe" bullshit to this series. the game is about shooting Demons, thats all it needs to be.

To be fair, the Hell Knights are basically just stapled straight from Doom 3. Also, considering that they "changed the name" of the Cyberdemon in Eternal to "Tyrant", and since there's a 2016 Cyberdemon skull in the announcement trailer, I think that we might be seeing both

Duh. Its so they can force Bethesdas hand into buying the movie rights back from them at a super high price, cut-throat I know.

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Glory kills preceded bloodborne, its not possible that bb inspired them.

>Even if 2016 wasnt perfect, D44M was still a very high quality and action packed game, and Eternal seem to build on that
>Meanwhile, the Duke Forever will remain one of the biggest disappointments in vidya history
Why God, why? I love duke3d

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Is Super Shotgun supposed to be the most powerful weapon or something? It looks incredibly small in his hands. What kind of cartridge is it packing?

>Why God, why?
Because of Randy.

EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP
I'M TRYING TO THINK

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It’s just an iconic weapon, and they seem to really like to advertise the Meathook.

Yeah but why is he shooting demons though?

Why does Doomguy have a fucking sword on his arm?

Predator.

It isnt even THAT strong. I think the triple charged shot from the normal shotgun is stronger.
The most powerful weapon (Besides the BFG) is the Gauss Gun Siege shot by far

The super shotty is just very satisfying and very iconic

It's sawn-off. And yeah, it packs a huge punch. It's not the strongest, but considering the damage it deals and how common ammo is for it, it's likely to be the player's most used weapon in 2, and maybe in 2016.

Master Chief

>it's likely to be the player's most used weapon in 2
It burned through ammo way too fast, I only really used it for knights, barons, pain elementals and caco. The cannon fodder zombiemen and imps all got the pump action.

I don't like this stupid platforming shit they're going for in Eternal. The movement speed seems even slower than 2016 and the grunting is extremely out of place. I'm gonna wait and see how the reviews are.

Based. It's funny that Doom of all things is choosing to rip off a game that wouldn't have been created had it not been for Doom.

>Not being Rich and getting Richer

They heard the complaint of glory kills taking too long, so they decided to try and appease people by adding the "Doomblade" so that glory kills would in general be faster

someone photoshop this cade onto that demon

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How about just no fucking glory kills? make the actual gameplay make you feel badass, instead of needing a canned animation to get that across.

>the grunting is extremely out of place
I dont mind some grunting but its going to be WAY too frequent from what we saw in the gameplay.
Like, it seems every time you take damage you grunt. I would make it a 5-10% change proc

Then don’t use them.

But the game is balanced around using them, especially at higher difficulties.

OOF

Glory kills are fast, kinetic, they didn't really break the flow in the first place, and all of those things are being intentionally augmented in Eternal for the sake of catering to people like you. They also change the gameplay so that when you are at low health, you don't become defensive, instead you become offensive so that you can get the glory kills. In harder difficulties, it's even a detriment to use them at times. It also aids the level design because you don't have to go back and look for health constantly, and it especially complements the arena style of level design since for a short period of time, you're locked in and can't run to go look for stuff.

No, you just need to git gud. You don’t need to heal if you don’t get hit.

lol no, did you even play the game?
Glory kills is suicide in Nightmare or U-Nightmare because you are stuck in one place while the demons might close in and instakill you the instant your i-frames are over. And all for 2-5 hp you get per Glory kill
The higher difficulties are 100% balanced around staying far and dodging like a madman. And Syphon grenades + Infinite ammo if you make it that far.

inb4 404

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People say this, but I've always found glory kills really useful on high difficulties. That said, they're definitely not necessary, I just beat the game without doing any except the obligatory ones on bosses.

>DooM sLaYeR is supposed to be the ultimate power fantasy
>he's a fucking manlet
OH NO NO NO NO

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The only good post in this thread.

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Thanks, user.

DooTs in the reboot are augmented humans if i remember