Why is there a bunch of anti-g2a sentiment all of a sudden?

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=TOYOYnlVxgQ

Indie devs and "journalists" have decided to get mad at them last week, and there's not much else going on so we have to hear about it. Resetera is pushing it a bit too.

why does Yea Forums desperately have to shill for every bad thing
>thing is bad
>Yea Forums: THING GOOD

>Can someone give me a quick rundown?
G2A says they want to improve their image and show everyone that they're nice and legit. 2 days later it comes out that they have been writing to journalists, trying to bribe them into talking good about them.

Then after the journalist exposes their dumb asses, they try to make it seem like it wasn't them and that it was a rogue employee who did it behind their backs.

twitter.com/SomeIndieGames/status/1148201687141756928

This. You're so far up this retarded counter culture that you'd rather pay Grigori for his scam instead of pirating.

because a dev called them out on them being a marketplace for stolen keys first and foremost, and actually provided convincing information, like the majority of the keys for his game being market down insanely and the majority of those coming from a single seller, which begs the question, how could those be obtained legally?
then g2a fired back, and got BTFO.
now people pile on it because they look guilty and have no intention to make it even harder for stolen keys to be sold on their site, much less prevent it completely.

>send keys to streamers
>they sell it because they don't want to waste their time with a shit game
>devs still fail to provide even a single shred of evidence that a stolen CC was used or chargebacks happened
Besides, it wasn't even keys that were sold trough GF2A, but gifts. Meaning that someone bought them in a currency that's cheaper then the one he sold it trough. Which btfo every thing Mike said since it's him who decides the price for the regions.

gamergate is needed because it expose corruption!

>G2A starts using Google ads
>soiboy leftoid Cali bay area indie dev gets triggered
>claims G2A harms more than piracy because the keys sold are from chargebacks
>calls up all his clique buddies (journalists, fat fuck Jim Sterling, etc.) to make a stink
>G2A offers a 10x refund to them for any key proven to be a chargeback and to pay for an independent audit company to oversee
>soibeasts can't actually prove anything because they were just baseless accusations
>screech louder and move goalposts
>allegedly G2A tried to pay off journalists for good articles but considering these are blue checkmark bay area leftists (same people behind "gamers are dead" and all that stuff) might as well be all lies
Either way I don't get why G2A tries to argue against these people, does anyone who uses keysites give a tenth of a shit about these indie faggots and their journalist buddies? These "devs" have spent the last few years telling me that I should be dead, that I'm not their audience, and generally loathing me in the worst way possible, and now I'm supposed to care?

If G2A actually damages them I'd be more willing to use G2A, I would be HAPPY if they went bankrupt and got raped by one of their pet niggers/spics.

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Are you just now realizing that Yea Forums is a haven for the absolute shittiest of underage kids who are at a point in their life where they are experiencing rebellion teenage angst??

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If he knows they are stolen/chargeback, why doesn't he take up G2A's refund offer? 10x refund, easy money right? They can even get an independent company to check, all expenses paid by G2A.

Dilate, tranny.

The game was called Descenders, G2A wasn't selling keys for the game, only Steam gifts which were only slightly cheaper than Steams price

Fuck buying from G2A though they are shady as fuck and you shouldn't be paying money to ensure the key you buy works (and if you do they will claim you didn't buy shield anyway)

indies devs and "industry influencers" are getting mad that nobody wants to pay $30 for indie games that provide nothing but sub par experiences

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>allegedly G2A tried to pay off journalists for good articles
It's not allegedly. G2A fucked up even more and admitted everything after they got called out, except they tried to play it off as a "rogue employee" doing it. This situation is funny as hell - twitter.com/G2A_com/status/1148229981513949184

>tfw live in the EU so I don't need to pay anything since they have to offer refunding if the key doesn't work by law

Well so do the 2 people I know who got scammed by G2A over this
They also locked my account that had a ton of credit on it from G2A goldmine for no reason and every time I contacted them over it they told me to wait for a "specialist" to contact me, then eventually told me to just make another account

PULLING THE POLITICAL GAME ON A GAME STORE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
THIS IS WHERE JOURNOS AND DEVS FUCK UP: PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I JUST WANT CHEAP GAMES. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR SOI AND YOUR PRONOUNS, RETARDS
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>FUCK YOU GAMERS YOU'RE ALL RACIST NAZI BIGOTS YOU'RE NOT MY AUDIENCE GAMERS ARE DEAD
>WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN'T BUY ON G2A YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME MONEY BECAUSE I SAID SO DO AS I SAY RIGHT NOW!

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literally can get shit for free by pirating, what's the point of spending money if you're going to want to go as cheap as possible so you won't even help out the devs but rather some faggot who stole someone's credit card?

G2A are literally in full panic mode and are shilling in this very thread

Yep, it's pretty pathetic.

>HURR DURR DRUMPF
>FURR DURR G2A IS EVIL
Implying I care other than getting the best price possible
Someone remind this people about wearing Nike shoes

Yea Forums is in a state of constant puberty

>best price possible
What is piracy?

The keys are often acquired through fraud and can actually hurt the developer financially.
Just pirate or buy games you hate there

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>YOU CAN GET THE SAME SHOT FOR FREE BY P-PIRATING

except malware
Except Bitcoin miners (fitgirl)
Except no achievements
Except no fast downloads (lmao seeders)
Except you have to go on shady sites
good luck finding old games to pirate

Yeah..... Ima stick to grey market codes.

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I prefer my legit keys, generated by devs, on G2A, instead of virus, thank you

>The keys are often acquired through fraud and can actually hurt the developer financially.
Proof?

There's never been any shred of evidence of this happening.

But what about the ones that aren't?
We've already had a court case in Europe over people reselling software licenses, and the court rules its ok to do. So all these developers crying people are selling keys from Humble Bundle etc. have no legal recourse to stop it. Which is why they are playing the feels game

>legit keys
kek
I wonder where did the ESL shills suddenly come from

>Except no achievements
That's a selling point not a downside.

Also I play all my pirated PC games on an offline living room PC, it's literally just like console piracy this way but one hundred times easier.

Reminder, the anti G2A sentiment was started by Tinybuild after G2A refused to give them a share of the resold keys.

>no MP or annoying to get working
>no automatic updates
>seeders may or may not exist in meaningful numbers
>rarely can you find the latest update
Why wouldn't I just buy a key on a keysite? Cheap as fuck and I get all the benefits of a normal purchase.

Corporations can buy opinions and pay them to be spread wherever they want.

>legit keys
>downloading cracks on limewire

Maybe because new releases are barely even fucking discounted on those shitholes? Oh boy, I got another shitty AAA release for $10 off and all I had to do was feed my bank details into a shady site run by Russians, or... you could just get the game for free. You brainlets astound me.

Good luck getting a bunch of money launderers to give you your money back

Literally only buy multiplayer games from grey market sites like
and pirate the rest.

>Except Bitcoin miners (fitgirl)
I have never seen one shred of proof for how often I see people say this.

is it fraud or is it money laundering? make up your mind

>literally confirms he is a retard that downloads whatever he finds on piratebay.com

How can you be this stupid

WHY WOULD SOMEONE DO THIS

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I wonder how much Trump is paying /pol/ then.

There's literally a bitcoin miner on its website

only retards get malware by pirating, so no need to have a conversation

Answer the question.

Jesus stop trying to make this a thing, Turok has been dead for like 16 years now, go away.

So don't buy those that aren't discounted? Or buy them if you don't like the devs. Also you don't feed your CC info to anyone, payments don't work like that, maybe read up on how this shit works or get out of middle school first. Almost everyone uses third party payment processors.
Bought Barotrauma a few days ago, key was already redeemed, contact support, issue resolved within 6 hours.

Where's the evidence of this happening? I see this parroted everywhere but not once is there any evidence.

>you could just get the game for free
With all of the drawbacks listed in . Even if you want to waste time getting MP going, will your friends feel like doing all that shit?

Yeah but they don't try to hide that and specifically tell you that it's there. Where's the proof that the torrents contain miners?

immolate

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PULLING THE FAIR TRADE STUNT ON G2A
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
I SWEAR TO GOD
OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST
IM CRYING
G2A TRYING TO BUY JOURNOS
WHATS NEXT
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA
I WILL NEVER BUY AGAIN BECAUSE ITS INMOOOORAL
gotcha fagits, I'm buying a new game on g2a this afternoon like I always do

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Jesus Christ, if all you play are shitty flavour of the month MP games you don't deserve to get games for free anyway.

>Where's the evidence of this happening?
In their onions-addled minds, that's where. If they had any proof they'd be cashing in on that sweet 10x G2A refund right now.

Genuinely surprised you got it sorted in 6 hours, I and a few of my friends have had the opposite experience
I only buy from CDKeys and CJS-CDkeys now
Fuck paying £50 for games when I can get legit keys for £30~

>People are unironically shilling the most blatantly barely legal, unironically shady as fuck reseller sites instead of just pirating

Good job "sticking it to the devs" by literally throwing your goddamn money away, you dumb fucks

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G2A literally has their own and encourages the use of their own, in house payment processor. It's blatantly obvious why THAT exists.

>barely legal
I don't like G2A but within Europe we can legally resell software licenses regardless of what the EULA says

but if you pirate you don't get to rub it in the face of people that paid full price

>if you pirate you don't get to rub it in the face of people that paid full price

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>W-where is the evidence!!
user. Sincerely. You've got to be completely fucking retarded if you think there is a way a business like G2A can be legitimate. Where the fuck are they getting this discount from?
>B-buying in b-bulk...?
No you goddamn inbred mongoloid, that's literally not a god damn thing, they're not a god damn store they're god damn RESELLERS.

Seriously how fucking dumb are you mongrels?

you know why

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I guess it hurts mostly small studios most.
Vlambeer complained about G2A multiple times and urged to pirate instead
Publisher No more pirates said similar
Maybe G2A will address these issues now
web.archive.org/web/20190707160149/https://www.pcgamer.com/g2a-says-it-will-pay-devs-10-times-what-they-lose-in-chargebacks-due-to-fraud/
The problem is that you can't really distinguish between them as a consumer. Maybe Steam gifts are fine? I don't really know

>month
The issue is, they can even be year old games, but with the lack of LAN on modern releases and other centralized server bullshit, getting MP to work might either be impossible or just too much work (even if it isn't for you, it might be for your friends, that's usually how it goes for me anyway).
inb4 nothing in the last few years worth playing in MP
Well user if you want to be like that don't let me stop you from not having fun.

but you dont, pirating causes them to dismiss you instantly, but saying your key came from g2a at a 75% discount creates maximum butthurt

You're a special kind of edgy retard aren't you.

I don't buy from G2A, if I buy keys its from CDKeys or somewhere else
But any one crying about the reselling of software licenses annoys me when we legally can in Europe

The guy starting all this shit has "ex-tinybuild" on his profile, so it's probably just the same guy you're thinking of. He's probably also the one who went bonkers over people reselling the keys he sold on his game's website.

Pretty sure it started as a joke but it got picked up by people who don't understand how repacks work, thinking that the CPU getting hammered while unpacking files means there's a miner. His repacks are still garbage (unless you have dial-up tier internet), but he doesn't put a miner in them.

There is a miner on the website, but I don't think that's ever been hidden.

But there's still no evidence of it happening, just devs complaining but not showing the proof it happened.

I am with you 100% on that
Reselling keys is/should be a consumer right

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>all of a sudden?

working multiplayer? patches? retard

This g2a is BASED and 4chanpilled. Only Tranny’s and Basedboys hate them
t.not a paid shill

>want to check out indie game that has interesting gimmicks WITH multiplayer (or recent updates not easy to find cracked) but dont want silicone valley cia nigger monkeys getting away with my money after I get bored of it in 4 hours
>go to g2a because ive never had a bad transaction and i already have my account shit set up there instead of paying 20 cents less on some other site thats the same fucking shit
>wait to give my money to a real chad studio that takes whatever interesting shit this indie game had, develops it into a game with challenging effort put into its art, and upgrade it without forcing some awful memestory gay tranny furryshit on me
and thats why anyone would use g2a

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user, really now, why are you making excuses and lying to yourself like this? You've been given carte blanche to pirate and you still prefer to give money to a bunch of actual thieves instead? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Just one single iota of proof, that's all I ask of you

>DUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRR WHY NOT PIRATE ITS BETTER THAN STEALING CODES JUST PIRATE THE GAME AND GET MALWARE DUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRR

let me spell it out for you

N O
M U L T I P L A Y E R

NO
M
>U
L
>T
I
>P
L
>A
Y
>E
R

>but the devs
I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE DEVS
I CARE ABOUT ME
MY MONEY
CHEAP GAMES
THATS IT

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a lot of newfags just found out about the site for the first time, probably some youtuber bringing them up again to generate some emergency rage-clicks so they can pay the rent

We are losing the political battle to journos and devs
OMG
What am I going to do now? What's the right thing to do?
I'm literally shaking
Should I buy that indie for $20?! Or buy it for 40cents from a 100% rating seller with thousands of transactions rated?!
Please tell me journalists what do I have to do

have indie trannies ever thought that maybe spending all their money on hormones is not a good idea?

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Yea, you're a shill or a retard then. Burden of proof is on G2A to prove their product is legitimate, not the other way around. Furthermore there is literally no reason or evidence to believe developers are lying about this, it's literally a full retard conspiracy theory
>B-but they're just b-being mean t-to G2A!!

Again, how much of a fucking retard do you need to be to think there is any legitimacy to a concept like G2A?

>implying I give a fuck about the prices
I just don't want to give money to shitty devs while also keeping the convenience of a Steam key. Couldn't give less of a fuck about paying $10 less, that's nothing.
>you still prefer to give money to a bunch of actual thieves instead?
I greatly prefer my money going to Ivan the key thief than SanFran indie devs.

>i want to jump through hoops to not support the devs and be the half bitch, but i do feel entitled to their server usage and server costs instead of being the full bitch and just install a patch to play on non official servers

Post
the
proof

>Get told you can and should pirate
>"I CARE ABOUT ME"
>"PLEASE HAVE MY MONEY THOUGH G2A AND CAN I SUCK YOUR COCK WHILE I'M HERE??
user, why are you pretending?

>getting malware in 2019

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>Yea, you're a shill or a retard then. Burden of proof is on G2A to prove their product is legitimate, not the other way around
No it isn't you fat retard. Devs/publishers generate keys, so if the key exists, it was made by them, and it is fully legal to resell in the EU (G2A is in Poland, no I don't give a fuck about muttland). The burden of proof is on the devs making this very serious claim, so provide it. Where is proof, basedboy?

>i like playing their games but i don't like that they made it

Yup, BTFO kid goes full retard mode and starts pretending they're a bot, as always.

Again, burden of proof is on G2A, show me the proof their business is legit. You can't, so you'll keep spamming like a moron.

There was always a fuckton of anti g2a and key reseller sentiment, its just only a 5/10 on a care scale. Its not bottom of the barrel, but its also not exactly headlines material. But apparently there is a dry spell right now, so this gets put into the spotlight again.

Not only are you so fucking stupid that you don't know how to pirate without getting a virus, you don't even know how to play MP on pirated copies of a game. Holy fucking shit. Please, keep throwing your money away. You clearly don't deserve it.

Vote with your wallet user, that's what people always say isn't it? Well I am voting with my wallet, and not even losing anything in the process.

Isn't the modern world great?

not him but I want to enjoy a multiplayer game and g2a is the cheapest way to do that

WHERES THE EVIDENCE?

>Being this openly underage.

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>>allegedly G2A tried to pay off journalists for good articles but considering these are blue checkmark bay area leftists (same people behind "gamers are dead" and all that stuff) might as well be all lies
They literally admitted it on twitter though

>Devs/publishers generate keys
Already wrong in the first sentence, but laughably so in the second. Stores generate keys you fucking inbred fuck, how fucking retarded is this god damn drivel? Devs generate keys? How? For what? "hey steam I made this key can you please add this to your system and use it for selling my game? What the actual fuck is going on in your retarded brain? Holy fucking shit dude you're dumb as bricks.
>it is fully legal to resell in the EU
No shit, the problem is that G2A isn't doing that you dumb fuck, nice reading comprehension you absolute imbecile.

Again, burden of proof is on G2A, where are they getting their keys, how is their business model legit?

It's not. You know this full well, this is why these retarded excuses of yours are so laughably stupid.

I am actually not sure what proof would look like in this case.
If you look around you find TinyBuild and MangaGamer complaining about the exact same issues, describing how scammer buy keys from their website and then issuing credit card charge backs.
I don't see why they all would lie.

how are you voting with your wallet when the vote will just be cast into the garbage? voting with your wallet means that because the earnings of the shit you paid for will send a message to the one who sold you the thing. so you're voting for ivan to continue stealing people's credit cards?

i've used g2a since 2013 and never had any problem with it. so i really couldn't give less of a shit what fat fuck sterling and his goons say.

Indeed. Where is it? Where are G2A getting their "totally legit" keys?

NO

MULTIPLAYER

HOW
STUPID
ARE
YOU DEV SHILLS

NO
MULTIPLAYER

The first big time it happened G2A asked tinybuild for the list of fraudulent keys so they could sort it out. Tinybuild refused. Now why would Tinybuild refuse to cooperate with G2A to solve the problem?

>all these faggot indie devs screeching at G2A
>"t-trust me big- I mean user I'm a piratechad I just hate G2A because of that!"
Stop trying to pass off as a pirate, I can see the seethe dripping from your posts, no pirate is going to care that much about people using keysites.

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What a beautiful woman.

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the consumer side doesn't really have problems with fraudulent keys

G2A aren't getting anything
the sellers on their site are acquiring the keys, G2A just makes commission off of the sales in exchange for not investigating the origin of these keys

>N-no one on 4chans would come laugh at the ridiculous retards using keysites
user, it was incredibly obvious that you are completely retarded but you just won't stop will you?

>buy 500 copies of a game from a legitimate site for 20$ each
>sell 500 codes to g2a for 5-10 $ each who cares
>chargeback credit card claiming it was stolen, money is refunded. credit card was likely stolen in the first place.
>days later the developer is hit with chargeback fees meaning he won't just get 0$ for each sale, he will also pay large fees, apparently as much as 20$ per copy.
>in the meantime g2a sold the keys at an unbeatable price of 10-15$, knowing very well how shady their origin is.
>when confronted with the truth g2a attempted to blatantly buy positive article on some gaming websites.

that's G2A business model and ofc developers aren't that happy to lose 40$ everytime someone buys their 20$ game, but if they ask steam to render those keys invalid they'll have a bunch of sad customers blaming them, some chose to do it in the light of the recent events.

>>chargeback credit card claiming it was stolen, money is refunded. credit card was likely stolen in the first place.
>>days later the developer is hit with chargeback fees meaning he won't just get 0$ for each sale, he will also pay large fees, apparently as much as 20$ per copy.

That's a real humdinger, say, you got any proof of this?

>. Stores generate keys you fucking inbred fuck, how fucking retarded is this god damn drivel? Devs generate keys? How? For what? "hey steam I made this key can you please add this to your system and use it for selling my game? What the actual fuck is going on in your retarded brain? Holy fucking shit dude you're dumb as bricks.
On the behest of who, you dumb nigger? Yes the store does the actual generating, that's like saying I don't generate my passwords because I use LastPass to gen them. All keys generated and sold are done so on the behest of the dev/publisher, with their agreement, you cannot generate a fake Steam key.
>Again, burden of proof is on G2A,
Then take them to court and see, basedboy. In the meantime, stay seething and
GIVE
PROOF

((()))

lol cuck
fuck the nigger devs i just wanna get my game on bitch

G2A are some real incompetent fucktards.
They had devs by the balls and then they shat their pants with that bribery attempt.

Goddamn idiots, they deserve anything that happens to them at this point.

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>G2A aren't getting anything
Riiiight G2A are just running the business out of the kindness of their hearts, paying for a ridiculous amount of ads all across the internet out of their own pocket :^)

Seriously mate, are you for real right now? I know keysite fags are generally inbred for several generations but surely, you can't actually be this fucking dumb, so what are you pretending for?

>G2A just makes commission
Indeed, and somehow despite the game being initially purchased and G2A making a commission, it's somehow cheaper than normal still? Where is the difference coming from kid? Do you realize in most countries you are criminally liable for buying obviously stolen goods much more so than you would be for pirating?

yeah it's almost too perfect a fuck up...

Pirated games can access multiplayer, you stupid nigger.

>n-word
State of G2A shills, everyone.

>On the behest of who, you dumb nigger?
>I was totally fucking wrong and desperately backtracking BUT YOU ARE A DUMB
Hahahahahaha

not only that, the whole ordeal that started this outrage is that g2a is buying google ad space to put their unfair low prices and listings above the legitimate channels to get a key. this causes damage to perceived value and directs most people to g2a.

Oh look a literall lying shill

>Where is the difference coming from kid?
Because in shitthole places games are sold at a fraction of the price, so Vlad buys a game for $10 then sells it on G2A for $20

>all of a sudden
People have been calling out the sketchiness of grey market sites for years.

>unfair low prices
Free market, you filthy fucking communist.
>b--but mub chargeback ke-
PROOF

>devs shut down their servers because they have no revenue
>one day later you come back on Yea Forums sperging ”WHAT THE FUCK FUCK THESE GUYS THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR MULTIPLAYER THAT I PAID FOR FUCK THOSE SHITTY DEVS”

I see you've studied your lines at least, how much does that make you in an hour?

But all the e-celebs have been talking about it recently so we obviously need daily threads about it

>Try to avoid steams 30% cut for giving keys on 3rd party sites
>Get rekt
Maybe that cut wasnt pointless after all. Maybe it helps protect developera from succh scenarios.

cope

Theres nothing to call out. You know you're buying ill gotten keys but at this point they all have money back guarantees and are as safe as amazon

Yeah and?

I mean really now, you know full well nobody is actually dumb enough to believe that drivel, right?

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself Steam cultist

Proof?

Indie games hardly have multiplayer or use Steamworks
Big devs like EA are huge, they dont fucking need my money they'll be fine
Go fuck yourself Jew I'm buying cheap games, g2a is based

literally how can you explain ultra low prices that are lower than the game ever got down to by over 50% sometimes, if it were one or two keys, okay, that's understandable, but hundreds available? that's impossible without having a huge loss. these keys come from a closed loop, they can't be generated from a third party, there's your proof.

cant even call it a falseflag because they admitted to it.
they are just THAT stupid and ruined it all.

Ok so if its so obvious G2A is selling stolen/chargeback keys and they have the burden of proof, why not take them to court? Why haven't big boys like EA taken them to court for hurting their profits?

Face it, you have no standing, you have no proof, you have nothing, all you have are your useless appeals to emotion that will only work on your bay area buddies who weren't using keysites anyways. Save your energy for something else, G2A has already won.

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most cant.
or you get that retarded pirate only multiplayer which is awful.

the recent backlash from indies is kind of bs though, where do sites like G2A source their keys from?
Unused review codes can only account for a tiny percent.

The only place you could buy codes in bulk would be direct from the publisher, and if they get chargeback'd because they sold to somebody with a stolen credit card it's their own fucking fault. Sell them directly to the storefronts or just don't sell bulk keys in the first place you fucking clowns

I only use G2A and the likes to buy subscription stuff or store credit.

Exactly, there is literally no proof to your claims, and there never will be, you hit the nail on the head there at least.

But really there was never a reason to ask, your claims where about as believable as claiming the earth is flat, only ridiculously stupid morons would ever even consider believing it in the first place.

small percentage for aaa big budget projects, especially since this shit doesn't exist for console.
big problem for indies where every purchase counts.

indie devs claim that they lose money because people buy bulk keys for their game with a stolen credit card, sell them to sites like G2A, and then the dev has to foot the bill when they're chargebacked by the card holder.

G2A said they remove codes which are proven to be acquired fraudulently, and even offered to pay back devs 10x any money they've lost due to chargebacks on G2A.

you would think the solution is for devs to stop selling their codes in bulk to shady people with no identity, but no it's all G2A's fault.

Nice reddit LARP, had me really going there for a bit

>Hurrr court
user, you clearly don't know the first thing about law, so why even bring it up?

then why are you entitled to the multiplayer? the money you pay the devs for goes partly towards the server maintenance to have multiplayer in the first place.

Oh no! user got so BTFO he started randomly calling me names, whatever will I do with myself?!

No but seriously dude, its ok, you can stop the act now

look faggot, i don't give a shit about entitlement
I just wanna play the game for cheap, i dont need to or want to morally justify it
go fuck yourself

lmao

>M-maybe if I d-double down??
And now he's beyond going full retard, he's gone full American!

imagine thinking that server upkeep is somehow more expensive than game development

So all drama aside, how is Descenders, anyway? Is it a spiritual successor to Downhill Domination or does it try to be something else?

see

Because I don’t give a shit? I play games to have fun. If a dev has to shut down servers because of me I don’t really care.

Oh no its worse than I thought, hes a canadian redditor larper

I'm not the guy you've been replying to up until this point, I was merely pointing out the flaw in your question as to "where g2a get their keys"
by the logic of the company, they are not in possession of these keys, they merely list and process the transactions of other people's offers
a better way to phrase it would've been "where do the keys that the website sells come from?"

then why pay for it in the first place if you don't care about the multiplayer anyways?

>M-maybe if I a-add more random s-shit t-to it
If doubling down doesn't work, and tripling down was just more laughable, I'm sure you would actually be dumb enough to try it a fourth time, so lets see it.

You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

still no proof btw

They just want the maximum amount of money, that's why.

I'm using G2A and other 3rd party key sites for years and never had a key revoked or anything. Just be smart about the seller and don't use the cheapest option who has no/bad ratings.

Fuck indies. Fuck the industry. Let 'em crash again.

Oh no, I got called named again! My life is in ruins!

>still no proof btw
No reason to announce you still have no proof user, you might lose track of a conversation in under 10 minutes, but not everyone is as retarded as you.

Are the servers going to shut down due to me buying from a keysite before I'm done and bored with the game? Extremely unlikely, hence I don't give a fuck.

>F-fuck indies
>S-still want t-to b-buy their g-games though!
Are you fucking 12? What the fuck dude?

always do whatever makes indie shitters cry the hardest

Since you refuse to post proof, as per usual we can come to the conclusion that it never happened. Thanks for trying to shill for indie trannies but, heh, you're a bit too smoothbrained this time kid.

I got hired for G2A in 2011 when they were just 20 people but the contract they gave me had a clause that said I'm gonna pay 80 monthly paychecks if I le reveal their trade secrets and knowhow. I got really bad vibes from the bunch of hipsters running the show so I just declined the job.

Jokes kind of on me, they are one of the biggest employers in my shithole town now and people get really good wages there. None of the people I know work there will answer my simple question regarding where the keys come from though.

No, most of them are just not worth the money and I hate waiting for a stupid sale like a good boy.

sure, you say that now but later on when it happens you'll feel your entitlement because you spent money and you are a "real" customer.

>Fuck indies. Fuck the industry. Let 'em crash again.
Based.
These faggots are always able to stir up controversy due to them being friends with other Bay area homos in journalism, blogging and (((YouTube))). In this case they can't sell their shit, so they shift the blame to g2a. How pathetic.

Oh wow we have a real badass over here! Not only posting while underage but really giving it to those durned indie devs!

underage detected.

>H-hah I w-win you l-lose
Why even try this user? Nobody is dumb enough to fall for it, not even the imaginary audience in your head. There is no worse way to white flag yourself than this, and you actually went and did it! You fucking moron!

>entitlement
I think you got lost on your way to Twitter, faggot.

fuck off phil fish lmao

yeah, my post seems to have done the trick

>it's LITERALLY piracy
Developers have said they'd honestly prefer if you pirated it.

So you throw money at a keysite rather than pirating because....?

Oh, right, you're retarded.

>I was only pretending!
Lmao actually fucking went there.

You can tell it's shill damage control when they throw in multiplayer for a reason to not pirate. Literally only zoomer normalfags give a shit about tacked on multiplayer

who are you quoting, my cute little indie dev?

>g2a shills throwing the word shill around
I don't think you know what that word means you dumb esl fags.

>"TH-THE MULTIPLAYERRR MUH MULTIPLAYER THESE INDIE GAMES DON'T EVEN HAVE!"

I can get them for just a few bucks and reselling your software license is perfectly legal in Europe. So what?

convenience. also because it clearly makes you very upset.

>buy shit from G2A or similar places
>100% legal
>multiplayer, updates, steam integration and whatever bullshit perks there are for legit games
>indie devs mad
>dev supporting fags mad
>journalists mad
>barely pay anything

Feels smug, man.

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>i'll throw my money at shady europoors because that'll make some random user angry
You shills are trying too hard.

>all of a sudden
PC gaming forums have been anti g2a for as long as I can remember. What I’ve suddenly seen is a surge in pro G2A posting.
How much are you getting paid for this?

well mostly the first part, but thanks for proving my point

Reminder that G2A shills here and on any other social media.

This is a blatant shill thread. Do not trust any g2a supporters.

>indie devs scam steam
>G2A scams indie devs
>indie devs play the victim card

>reselling your software license is perfectly legal
it's not legal when that license was stolen using a stolen credit card to begin with, dingus. also there's a difference between legality and morality.

wow bam bam bam all at the same time. what discord you shills crawl out of?

>g2a threads are literally the only place on Yea Forums that's heavily anti-piracy
Hmm...

>morality
>anything more than a tool to keep good goys down

Keep it up, fren.

What are you suggesting, fellow go-, I mean big-, I mean user?

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I never got a key revoked, so what?

if you read the post and used your brain, you'd actually know that there's no morality necessary, it's plainly illegal already.

What shithole country did you crawl out of? Go do something productive for society you fucking loser. There’s more dignity in being a whore than a shill, at least the whore is honest and is providing something people actually want

Why would I pirate games if Steam allows me to easily and without a hassle to download and redownload games if I wanna play them again? Sure there's torrents, but I tend to just use google drive downloads or MEGA for some very few games and both those can limit your download (too much free bandwidth used/too many users trying to download the files).
Rather just spend a tenner on a game I want and be done with it.
Yes "she" totally has bitcoin miners on "her" website/repacks.
>b-but during the installation my CPU usage goes through the roof
Compression isn't magic, go and unzip a rar/zip/7z file, the same will happen, just to a lesser extend.
Just because retards don't understand how miners work doesn't mean they're right.

ok, good for you then, nobody cares.

hey, note for the future: try to spread your posts out a bit, it makes it a little less obvious

I care. Crying wolf about illegal keys and chargebacks while I sit here with hundreds of games on Steam is kinda silly. Stop lying.

anti-g2a shills are all discord trannies, as if we didnt already know that. notice how emotionally-unstable they all are.

G2A shilling seems eerily similar to the Epic thread spam

most developers don't deactivate chargebacked keys because that's extra man hours and you'd get pissed and sperg out.

That is the entire fucking point you retard. Publishers don't like deactivating the stolen keys, since it ends up being more trouble for them than just letting them be used.

>not being able to use your brain
Install adblock and a popup blocker. If you wanna be safer because you're autistic and visit sites that have popup overlay just go and buy yourself a copy of some antivirus.
Haven't ran an antivirus myself for 3+ years (besides malwarebytes trials every now and then) + I am on old MB bios and still have HT enabled. No one's coming for you, "hackers" will not target private individuals with those exploits.
Not to mention to even exploit those weaknesses code has to be running on your machine, so how the fuck did that code get on there? Don't click shit and don't download free_avengers_movie.mov.exe you dumb mutt.

Most of the keys are from previous sales, bundles or turning regional pricing into profit. Your jew overlords are just pissed that some people manage to avoid the retard tax.

>Burden of proof is on G2A to prove their product is legitimate, not the other way around.
Semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit, faggot.

So they get robbed and do nothing. Makes sense.

>if business is legit
As if I care where my key comes from, lmao.
Bought around 20 keys from G2A in the past 2 years and exactly had 0 revoked keys. Even if a key got revoked I wouldn't care since I never spend more than a tenner per key and most keys I bought from there were less than $5. I'd buy another key for 5 bucks before I buy the game from a limited time Steam sale for 10-15.

>muh malware
>muh multiplayer
>muh steam collection
Why are g2a shills so bad at lying

Ah, so that is why g2a is litterally selling you a product that lets you get your money back when your stolen code gets revoked?

are you aware that this whole ordeal happened during the steam summer sale and are ignorant of the fact that these keys are sold for lower than ever available prices and that steam has locked down gifts by pricing regions? nice try.

>keys got sold without any profit
>some fat neckbeard is now playing their game
>can waste time and money into checking which keys are illegitime, which ones aren't, etc, costinf more money than the damage already done
>have a chance that there'll be an outrage by those neckbeards on twitter if their key were to stop working
all of this shit has happened before, you can look it up, it's not worth it for the devs.

>selling something you own
>illegal

In the US maybe, it's legal everywhere in the first world.

That's not my problem as a consumer to sort this shit out. I'm just going with the best price.

>if you buy from g2a and dont support the devs, you are a *random bad word*
oh man that really got to me, let me just wipe my tears with the money i saved on the purchase

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I assume everything you buy is resold stolen goods?

The best price is free. And the devs would rather you do that. So why are you giving your money to thieves rather than pirating and getting it for free?

can't sell something you don't own retard. the keys are bought with stolen credit cards so they never were the reseller's property to begin with.

so you do admit that if shit like g2a didn't exist (didn't say just g2a, i mean all key reseller platforms) that you'd just buy the best legit priced version?

inb4
>Multiplayer
>Making you mad
>I'm lazy
>Fuck the devs

isn't this the key site that top twitch streamers have been shilling(sponsored by) on their channels for years?

why did you just leak G2Ashills their script, what the fuck?

I never bought a key that was bought with a stolen credit card from G2A. I could also at any time sell the piles of keys I own from shit indie bundles anytime, so it's entirely legal.

>indies can generate thousands of keys for games hosted on Steam and sell them third party without giving a cut to Valve
>they sell large batches of keys at deep discounts to basically whoever offers to buy as it costs them nothing and Steam eats any fees
>indie devs are then outraged that these keys are resold at prices lower than retail, apparently thinking these guys were just buying gifts for the 5 thousand sons and saughters for doing good in school
>accuse people of stealing cards and causing chargebacks to them through the sites that facilitate resales
>fail to prove any cases of it even though one of the sites offers to pay them back 10x for any chargebacks they can prove

Because they are shills for developers, black market is crucial for any marketable goods if you take it you give too much power to devs and government. Games already cost too much with dlcs and lootboxes/skins and they want to me to buy them at full price. They can fuck off.

Reddit homos bought into shat journofaggots sold them. Fake outrage.
Same as with Mordhau.

I like to have them in a neat little library, always up to date and ready to play.

Most games are not worth the full price for me and today's Steam sales suck. I'll rather pirate.

Who cares? It's the credit card companies' fault for not properly securing the fucking transactions then. Don't like it when people buy $100s of games? Lock the fucking credit card down via 1 time safety code and improve your algorithm that detects weird shopping behavior. I don't have a CC but I've used my dad's card to order something for him a few times and it always asks for an SMS code unless the total's below $20 or so.

Because journalists and indie devs pretend not to understand the first sale doctrine even while selling their game at below market value 3rd party since they can get free keys generated by Steam that don't even cost them hosting and bandwidth fees.
Which funnily enough is against the terms they agreed to when getting those keys since they are not supposed to sell them for lower than you can get on Steam.

If purchases done by stolen credit cards are such a persistent problem, maybe you should try and prevent those fraudulent sales entirely instead of crying about alternative markets existing

g2a would die in an instant if keys were actually illegal and got revoked.

>always up to date
that's work the devs put in that you even after the fact didn't pay for. you shouldn't get those updates. get gog 2.0 when it's out, you can link all your launcher games and non launcher games ogether in a neat library, then just pirate.

give a suggestion as to how to prevent that from happening then, i'll wait, you'd be the one to solve this whole issue.

Because of unproven allegations that the bulk of G2A's big sellers are using illegal means to obtain keys and that the developers are being held responsible.

It's also a very limited number of developers who actually said they'd rather you use piracy - and they're definitely entering into an ethical dilemma of their own when they start encouraging criminal behavior that's not only harmful to their own companies, but also to other ones that will no doubt be affected by their utterances.

How guilty of the same things that G2A are being accused of are other sites like Kotaku, Polygon, etc? Is this just pot calling kettle black or are these sites less shit than they were ethics-wise from four years ago?

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>give a suggestion as to how to prevent that from happening then, i'll wait, you'd be the one to solve this whole issue.
Stop generating keys outside of the steam ecosystem.

When steam gifts get chargebacked the developer eats none of the cost. When the steam keys they generate outside of the steam ecosystem get chargebacked, they are responsible for it.

Prove that this is the case with more than a dev's tweet.

Like, show me actual evidence that would hold up in court.

Don't generate keys outside of Steam and sell them with no security or assurances, especially under the market value set by yourself.

There are ways to strengthen buyer identification, online stores generally want to avoid them because as paying for stuff takes longer and becomes more of a hassle, less people bother to go through it.

Funny how these threads start to die once the usual cycle of posts happen and the retard contrarians realize there is nothing wrong with G2A and it is all the devs fault.

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so that means, no press copies, no direct profit for developers from their own site, no humble bundles, no other forms of doing something for their fans such as giveaways or special actions, etc. and they would be tied to only steam and very similar services. go ahead and bring that up to the developers that whine.

Not at all, G2A sells game keys and the rest of those sites doesn't.
Dunno how you came to this thought process.

Yes, if you try to sell your game third part without any security features like there is on Steam just because you are trying to cut Valve's cut out of their own storefront that's just one of the risks.
Also if these keys were from giveaways and events how are they stolen?

>so that means, no press copies

Press 100% should not be selling extra keys they get, are you actually fucking retarded?

>no direct profit for developers from their own site

So using steam as free marketing and file hosting while getting around the 30% fee? I don't think Valve even appreciates that one. Why can't the devs put better chargeback protection on their website?

>no humble bundles

see above

> no other forms of doing something for their fans such as giveaways or special actions

They could giveaway non-steam DRM-free copies of the game if they actually cared about their playerbase.

>go ahead and bring that up to the developers that whine.

Not going to argue with a bunch of trannies who still think this whole fiasco ISN'T their fault.

Mostly from the comments on the posts from said reviewers being about that subject matter

indie devs btfo yet again

>confirmed multiplayer babby
leave zoomer

>he only plays single player games

Why don't you run along and go play some Sekiro, lil zoom?

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This. Ive got a load of games from g2a and all of them work just fine so fuck you.

>single player only
>zoom
user i...

Everytime a dev pipes up they get BTFO and the thread starts to die again, its honestly hilarious.

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I've been pirating for 20 years and never had any of these issues

Single player only is the definition of max zoom. You're in denial. Wanna duel me in Quake, lil zoom? Or are you more of a Super Mario Odyssey player?

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This is the biggest reason why. G2A's prices suck ass now. No one cares about defending them any more because they haven't used the site in years since going anywhere else is cheaper.

Yes, because all those 8 bit games were multi, right? Get a load of this faggot

Jews don't like the chinese selling their stuff cheaper

Depends on the game, just shop around on every grey market site. My tip for the thread is to check ebay if the game you want was ever bundled with a GPU.

Yeah bro, she was pretty hot

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Yes, because 30 y/o boomers are nostalgic over 8 bit games, right? Get a load of this faggot.

Are you duelling me or what, turbo-zoom?

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G2A arent even shady
they just buy keys when they're on sale and sell them
Nobody has any proof they've done shady shit

they DO shill I know that firsthand from people who work there. Other than that they are on the market for 8 years now and they operate from within the EU, they WOULD have gotten shut down if they did downright criminal shit. Its not that big of a company to get legal immunity.

>they just buy keys when they're on sale and sell them

G2A does not buy any keys at all, they are merely a marketplace.

Except in my country piracy is punishable by law but grey market keys aren't since on paper you are owning the official legal version

>hey bro we wrote this article that says all the bad things about us are false
>we'll give you $50 to publish it on your website
>oh lmao haha it was some random employee that works for us and was willing to give his own money to random journos just to publish fake articles, totally wasnt us though ;) we'll fire him today

g2a is fucking pathetic

Thats what I mean, the people who sell on there just buy keys when they're at there cheapest.
You'll never see a game cheaper than the lowest its sold for on steam

There are many reasons why you can be against piracy, such as:
>wanting access to servers for multiplayer/online content
>getting updates reliably and timely
>some platforms like consoles need to hacked first which may be too much of an inconvenience for some as well as losing access to online functionality
>you risk getting your account banned on some platforms if you try connecting to their servers
>rewards/incentives to buy games (e.g. Steam)
>supporting the devs

Your reasons, however, are something only retards strongly believe or they're just too stupid to navigate the Internet to begin with.

>You'll never see a game cheaper than the lowest its sold for on steam

Yeah you will.

Proof?

no you wont, every other key seller sells games for the same price

EDF 4.1 lowest recorded price 10 euro being sold for 5 euro

and all the DLCs for $20

Turkish store price is about 3 euros

How do you know the lowest recorded price?

if you are too retarded to pirate you are a useless faggot who needs to off himself asap

Just pirate single player games and buy keys for multiplayer ones like a normal person

you can look that up easily.

There are El Amigos releases (the only really good repacks) with update support.

Not too aggressively compressed. Fantastic if you have a cheap muti filehoster account.

5 keys total were found.

5 keys sold on G2A.

Fuck off.

>reddit confirms that g2a is running a massive viral marketing campaign to save face

Uh oh.

Stop generating keys to sell third party if you don't want to see third party sales.

>buying stuff on G2A which is barely cheaper than from legit sources

>"Oy vey I made such a good deal hehehe"

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>Buying stuff from a shady source instead downloading stuff from a shady source for free

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>buy 2007 game that is still £30 on Steam
>buy the same game for £7 on g2a
hmm

>>buy 2007 game that is still £30 on Steam

I bet that's totally true

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alright so you're semi-right
store.steampowered.com/app/10180/
it's £20, not 30
the game released in 2009

>store.steampowered.com/app/10180/

It' says 15 bucks for me, but whatever. You found one overpriced game. Great.

My point still stands though. I just skimmed through G2A pages and the prices there are not that low that it's basically a steal, more often than not it's almost identical with amazon prices lol

same I thought about buying stuff there but I fell for the meme that it's signficantly cheaper there. Plus you know, the risks of paying money and not getting shit back, which is not exactly unheard of either from that site.

I stick to my pirated copies you fad faggots who fall for every trend. Fucking kike niggers.

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100000 keys were found in Cyberpunk

3 keys were sold

fuck off

Based.
Also, piracy doesn't cost the devs a cent.
Chargebacks cost about $40 in fees. If even a small fraction get a chargeback, it sucks for devs. Every 1 chargeback on a $5 (retail) game means they need to sell 11 more games on Steam to make up for it (because Valve takes 30%).

>Buying virtual goods

normies

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only activision:tm:

Where did the third party Steam keys originate from?