T. Ethics Department

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Anything that isn't the overworld models from the original game is soulless

What does an ethics department actually do?

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Game play trumps story and animators aren't people.

I just want her to have the proportions she has in all the porn, fuck the concept art.

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I have saw few char. with from an Echi,

>Higher cut on the neck and the shirt goes down the same length as the undershirt on the 7R version.

You were tricked.

cost money

Presumably, they're advisors who tell you how to offend as few people as possible. Something people often forget about Japan is that they've always been a bunch of pussies who desperately try not to offend others publicly in fear that it would negatively affect their reputation. Reputation is everything in Japan.

They make sure the game meets the targeted ratings worldwide .

you tricked yourselves

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>brown eyes
into the trash she goes

Whats the point of having writers and animators when murica ends up slapping your game with ESRB A18 killing your game?
'Ethics Department', despite your paranoid fear of sjw, is a necessity.

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Her tits are so small wtf

they are in charge of browsing the internet to get in the know about ethic trends in their audiences so they can make products that will be better received

I meant the KT one.

Don't ask unethical questions.

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Cite one example of a game that happened with.

sony doesn't allow big tits anymore
the classic outfit with a downgrade is as good as we can get at this point

That's okay, I don't plan to use Tifa much anyway. My party's gonna be Cloud, Barret and Yuffie.

I hope this continues happening just so we can see more screeching inbreds obssessing over tits and stockings violating their penis rights.

small boobs isn't even why the remake design looks so bad. it would still be garbage even if she was packing beach balls. it's a total mess and it doesn't look like tifa.

Why don't they make a game you have a party of heroes you name and pick the classes of then you go off to collect the elemental crystals to save the world from a bad guy?

Protect public morals

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Stocking literally just look bad on Tifa, but keep projecting.

>he thinks Yuffie will ever be playable

Tits are only allowed if the character is morbidly obese.
Because that's the sort of thing which is ethical to promote, evidently.

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>IMG related ESRB T-Rated
user....

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>girl puts on two long socks and a sports bra
>"WHO ARE YOU?!"

We're gonna have this thread six times a day until we all die, aren't we?

It is okay because Ivy has a manface.

>Yuffie
Ok see you in 2030

Aerith is a cheap whore who sells her body to old dirty men for 50gil/hour
She is also known as "the hoover of Midgar" and "that girl who sucks dog cocks for 100gil"
Her selling flowers is a code for her giving her virginity for 200gil, which everyone knows already. Thanks to her, most of Midgar is half-ancient and thanks to her, next generation will have incest relationship at least on some stage
Anyone who disagrees is just delusional

Tifa fucks black men and sucks cocks under the table. That is how her bar stays afloat. The name 7th heaven comes from fucking 7 dudes at the same time and sucking 7 meters of cock in one day.

Yuffie is pure

I don't need to project at all, I fully love the entirety of the redesigns and so far am nothing if not impressed, considering SE's absolute trainwreck of a record.

>"WHO ARE YOU?!"
More like
>"WHY IS YOUR OUTFIT SO MUCH WORSE?!"

yeah that's why so many people prever the dissidia version, she might have smaller tits but still looks way better.
not only the outfit but the face as well
she looks nothing like classic tifa while NT nailed it
nigga get some glasses

a half naked manface

The Inquisition was basically an ethics department.
That.

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Expect it to show up every time any news from any of the F7R episodes shows up. Falseflaggers + brainlets falling for the falseflagging and parroting it make for a hell of an advertisement power.

Cloud getting braids makes him unrecognizable.

>pure
>steals shit to get by
>lives in the most backwater, thirdworld country on the planet
>doesn't even keep her short-shorts zipped up
Yeah, okay.

Sounds retarded. Where's the mechanical giant chickens? The steampunk? The people with machine guns for hands and flamethrowers for butts?

yeah, it proves that it was never really about the boobs.

You having no taste whatsoever and crying about other people being """"""""incels"""""""" for not wanting a good design made objectively worse is projecting. You want to claim others are incels when in reality only you are, since you demand Tifa look worse.

>koooonsoft: Here's your Tifa bro.

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Welp that's one amazing jump of the logic loop, I'll give you that. It's a good thing you have Tifa's clothes to cry over, otherwise I can see how those might be dangerous without due release.

You see those when you travel to the past.

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>WAHHHHH MUH VIRTUAL GIRL DOESN'T HAVE BREAST SIZE I CRAVE

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Yet more projecting. It might be interesting if it weren't so sad.

>breast size
>when everyone in the thread is only talking about clothes
Maximum retard.

Sorry, my bad. I should have stuck to the
>seething

Hello, ResetEra. Rape any babies today?

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>Yuffie

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Reminder that they were actually making Tifa the correct proportions the first time but the ethics department forced them to change it.

Yay censorship! Save us from those scary boobies!

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Which, coincidentally, is also you projecting your feelings onto others.

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but her new design is cute

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cope, faggot

Nobody is talking about her tits isnt this proof enough that the real problem was her crappy costume redesign ? anyway ive seen a couple of this post trying to bait into the tits fake outrage you will have to try harder now thanks to KT adn TN

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>big boobs
Reported to the ethics committee.

he looks like retarder

Considering the shitstorm you faggots are pulling over it, it only feels like you are confirming exactly what they accuse you of.

the only thing different is her bra and stockings

> praising literally the same model just with slightly smaller breast than remake Tifa
Never saw such hard case of nostalgia fagging

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is a perfect example, a blunder that could have been averted by some ethic check on the content.
Note that Rockstar pussied out and removed the minigame too, now imagine it was not minigame but core game feature? They would be basically fucked.
I don't necessarily mean 'ethics' as in SJW shit, how about showing, i don't know, french resistance as incompetent drunks and implying SOME helped in jew extermination and it causing a scandal in france? you would end up removing entire game from circuation since you can't rewrite entire game in a patch.

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>Skirt
>Gloves
>Suspenders
>Thigh highs
>Sports Bra
>Dolphin tail
HMMMMMMMMM

You're either a shill or need new glasses.

>Stealing so you can feed yourself is bad and less pure than fucking old men or sucking 7 meters of cock for money
>Discriminating for where one is born in
>Judging on looks
Smh

Gimme those Ehrgeiz titties

Which both look quite bad. And the gloves are much more bland. And her hair is less unique, and face look less cute. But I'm sure none of that counts because you need to suck S-E's collective cock so bad.

You just said they removed it. And then San Andreas sold a fucking gorillian units.

>WAAAAAAAH THIS VIRTUAL GIRL HAS LARGE BREASTS, THAT IS LITERALLY HITLER AND MARGINALIZE, SAVE ME CORPORATION!

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And it's an improvement

>still posting your epic meme capture with not even 10 (You)s
This will never not be embarrassing

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report THIS

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The detox will be good for you thirsty degenerates.

How in the hell does she look sickly? It's just about the right amount of realism and stylized as her red eyes are really impactful whereas with rounder anime like ones it's not as eye popping if you'll pardon the pun. Plus the cute decorations on her gloves and shirt are good, Nomura said Tifa was always more plain looking than the others. You know he regrets not going crazy with her design. And if someone says this doesn't fit Tifa, this was the same girl who stopped to gush at a nest of chocobo chicks on a dangerous slum train track. Her having cute accessories ain't beyond the pale.

This image just convinced me you guys are being nitpicky cherrypicking twats, not that there's anything actually wrong with her new design. You specifically chose FMV shots of Tifa's tits being way out of proportion that has already been discussed to death by the design team as an accident/issue with rendering rather than intentional, so your argument is already shit. The boob size is similar.

If I compare Tifa's concept art on the left to her head on shots on the right, the only difference is her eyes are less anime-styled and sharper. Her eyebrows, her nose, and everything else looks great.

You guys are being retards. Get rid of the gay thigh highs and she's perfect. If you want her to be goofy dinner plate eyed, just play the original.

Based

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And still the people who have never and will never play FF7 complain about her OG costume . Fuck social media was mistake.

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What does videogames have to do with accusing of anything? Videogames are not a political platform. The fact is, the entertainment factor and sales only go up when you give the players what they want. Tifa sells as much as sex sells. Sex appeal is an important part of her character, and when you take that away, you're taking a big chunk off the character as well. I'm not saying the character is only composed of its sex appeal, but ignoring the factor that draws you to it in the first place, the one that makes that character get in your spotlight and listen to its development, you're pretty much leaving it behind.

In this case, SE has bet all their shit on the nostalgia factor exclusively, it has not brought back the game we loved, just a reminder that it happened and that times has changed now.

Every female under 200 pounds is considered 'sickly looking' in clapistan

Yes, but the point is if they offended wrong people with core feature entire game would go in flames, or at least their brand.
I expect every international company to have a departament to analyse which ESRB they will get before game is done to be reviewed and if any representation of characters will be risky to the feefees of the rest of the world.

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have sex and stop caring about video games so much

Here's your Tifa bro.

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I imagine the smell

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It was never “removed” you fucking zoomer. It was cut content in development. It was never reviewed. It was only accessible through gameshark or modding pc version.

doesnt that apply to you as well ?

how

>runs out of arguments
>right to ad hominem and strawmanning

Games have always been political platforms.
Sex appeal for you = / = sex appeal for the rest of the world.

If you somehow find that marginal changes to her design that still leave her looking like a massive whore anyways suddenly ruin your complete enjoyment, sexual or otherwise, of a character you might find that you need some fucking reality check jesus fucking christ.

seething

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I honestly think it would single handedly make her passable. It would just be Tifa with an awful outfit, but you would recognize her and she would have a striking trait and not look like an NPC.

>marginal changes
>still leave her looking like a massive whore
holy shit why are you even on Yea Forums you retarded twitter activist
>stop liking what i don't like
oh that's why

my prediction is that nuTifa will be a combination of her remake look and her Dissidia one. They did the same for Sephiroth

And finally, he has fallen to simply reposting memes with no coherence whatsoever.

You are here shitposting so you obviously care *too much* about video games as well

Don't you have some waifu figurines to masturbate over or something, you absolute disappointment?

>Games have always been political platforms.
You're wrong ,and the extent today is far, far different than it was in the 90's and how prevalent it is in western design to use gaming as a social engineering platform.

Your "you remember the past wrong everything has always been the same and always will be" argument is a giant pile of horse shit. I otherwise agree with your sentiment that retards are overreacting to her minor cosmetic changes.

>UGH! Fictional character horny!
>Haha, have sex virgin
>Stop slut shaming you virgin boy! You can't even please a strong woman!

Can someone explain me the cause of this big fucking leap of logic? Does western culture glorify sex and sexual liberation or not? Is feminism about women having sex with whoever they want or about being modest and loyal to your family? Why do these people care so fucking much about whatever arouses others? Aren't they the ones that want homos and trannies fucking brainwashed children in public?

that's just your gay opinion tho

Yeah, but the other ethics departments are a ok with big boobies

don't you have to dilate your axewound, tranny

Thinking the design is worse =/= TOTAL ENJOYMENT RUINATION, I LIVE A LIFE OF PAIN

Why should I play a remake if I think things I liked about the original are worse in it?

What do you fucking care what he or anybody else here does with their dicks or what gives them pleasure? Are you afraid of a bit of boobies? Get the fuck out, mamophobe.

it's really simple
if men like it it's bad.

You shouldn't, you should move along with your life rather than senselessly screech about how the inevitable changes don't suit your particular fancy.

The problem is you're a retard.

Women want to be sexually liberal if they choose to be. They do not want men dumbing them down to sex toys/sex objects in stories/media/fiction. There's no contradiction or hypocrisy, you're just stupid.

You know the answer

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It's just about gaining power, and the restriction of speech. Since that's literally the only thing that's a serious threat to the status quo. That being said new Tifa is fucking kawai. Would fuck.

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How did we get Busty Tifa before then? Checkmate SJW.

Clearly I am not as afraid of tits as you are desperate for them, you thirsty ass bitch. Unironically have sex.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ecgdwhc8gkw
your opinion isn't inevitable

They have their gay novels why man cant have their own fantasies and shit ?

>senselessly screech
But I'm not. You just keep saying I am, then claiming I'm and """incel""" and I need to ""have sex""". Then you claim it is about breasts and other such lies. Then you makes posts like to further libel anyone who dislikes the newer designs.

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soul is just another word for nostalgia. I didn't have a PlayStation growing up so to me they just look like shit, whereas SNES sprites actually have soul

>They do not want men dumbing them down to sex toys/sex objects in stories/media/fiction
But women do that to men 100% of the time.

They can do whatever they want. They're not entitled to immunity from criticism. And the women that don't like these women being depicted as blank whores and "male oriented fiction" state that they don't like it because they don't like the kind of conditioning affect it has on society as a whole.

This really isn't difficult to understand.

how about low poly models and total lack of physics?

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Ah, yes, it's all a conspiration against your crusade and not at all hilariously blown out of proportion complaints. Surely not multiple people feeling the need of pointing out you reek of desperation. Much be just a single fellow sowing the seeds of discord.

So you are one of those who think playing COD and CS:GO turns you into a mass murderer ?

These anons' knowledge of Tifa come from porn. You can tell that their zoomers because they can't imagine what's coming next

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>But women do that to men 100% of the time.
No, they don't. Most producers of modern media aren't even women. The majority are men. Those men don't commonly depict men as sex objects that lack any agency outside of their sex appeal. Yet the reverse is incredibly common, even today in sjw America.

The problem is gaming is quickly becoming a split demographic. Yeah, it used to be a boy's club, but it's slowly becoming like movies. You can maybe find the same level of sexualization or objectification in women's romantic comedies or something, but whatever.

You're retarded and stupid. Those are works of fiction and are just fantasies. No one is getting dumbed down. People already know that what they see in fantasy isn't real. You're problem is that you believe media instantly makes people believe all women should wear bikini armor or something when they see some movie.

so a character with big breasts is automatically a sex object no matter her personality, but the same exact character with average sized breasts is not a sex object?

See, you're doing it right now. I posted that I think the newer designs are worse, and point out that you are exaggerating the feelings of myself and those that have similar opinions just to suit your own agenda, you call names and make up lies about the proportion and direction of my complaints so you can form a strawman and use it to further your agenda. Clockwork.

so is true is all about fear fuck i knew women were obsesd with attention but god damn

pluralist.com/gamergate-study-female-gamers-sexist/

Definitely an improvement.

If you dress that character like a whore despite all of her personality points towards her most likely not being the kind and don't apply the same treatment to any dude in the game, then yeah, pretty much. Some more believable clothes and proportions push it slightly towards a better spot.

Oh, i get it. So in the end it was just the pathetic tribalism that plagues american society and now has infested the rest of the western world.

A fucking videogame model made to be sexually appealing does not make any fucking person a sexual object, but people from that faction start seeing it as a fetish, as a totem, some shit that represents them because of the meaning they, not the creator, puts in it, and feel offended by it on their own. Same fucking shit when blacks get offended when a hispanic calls them negro, the fucking common word they've always called them, and despite never once have they experienced the crude cruelty of slavery, they get offended because someone told them they should.

The US needs a new fucking war and all of its people killed. Americans are not fit to live in civilization, they want their little tribe to hate others. The only thing that keeps them together is their stupid drape, only because they hammer it in kids head's that it's the toilet paper God himself wipes his ass with.

>They do not want men dumbing them down to sex toys/sex objects in stories/media/fiction. There's no contradiction or hypocrisy
Yep, retard and hypcrite confirmed. The thought police is hard on this one.

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>No, they don't.
Literally ALL romcoms, female written novella and fiction, and any female made games. You're an outright liar and your hypocrisy is repulsive.

No. If you weren't retarded and could actually read, you'd realize based on the wording of my post that I'm stating an argument that doesn't come from my own point of view anyways. Even if what I were explaining WERE my point of view, you response would still be an incredibly stupid false equivalence. Media is capable of influencing people you braindead moron. Proven fucking fact. That has nothing to do with video games "causing violence".

Jesus. If I didn't know better I'd swear you guys were SJWs acting stupid on purpose to make the opposing argument look awful.

Man, I'm glad that the ethicality of a person is determined entirely by their breast-size!
Thanks, ethics department for driving home the message that girls with big breasts are inherently evil and immoral!
Please tell me more of what I believe!

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What the fuck does that mean? A concept artist redesigning a character isn't expensive.

Just wait for PC release

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>No, they don't.
Don't forget to buy the newest 50 Shades of Gray reprint.

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I just cited that shit in my post you illiterate fuckwit. And if you hate it so much, go whine about female romcoms and demand they take out their exploitative male depictions for equality. If you don't care about it, then shut the fuck up. If you want dumb male smut to keep being made anyways, then go fucking fight for it or make your own.

Or just keep bitching incessantly on this tiny corner of the internet and impotently crying in the dark. Your call. Either way, clearly these feminists care enough to argue against the female depictions in these instances. And their voices are being heard. You're a bitchmade faggot that can't do shit, so you won't change a thing.

>dressed like a whore
are you a muslim or what
tifa doesn't dress like a whore at all

Now I'm a retard. Cool. Dumb down people afflicted with congenital conditions into a caricature of themselves. 100% not hypocritical there.

I am being 100% honest that i'd be very glad to see you fucking dead, your brains all splattered across the street, and I'd feel a little glaf and a bit disgusted to find a piece of skull under my shoes when i get home.

>>No, they don't.
Based retard. Someone put me in the screencap.

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Nigga what ?

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I don't want to whine, I'm not gonna police thoughts like you, I'm fine with bare chested men being lusted for by female novel authors, like I'm fine with video games having hot women.

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>lying hypocrite resorts to fullon outright namecalling when proven wrong
Sicknasty. I don't bitch about it because there is nothing wrong with it. just like there is nothing wrong with doing the same to women. You and your SJW buddies are an active detriment to creative freedom and regarded by most of the population of the world as a joke. Enjoy your "victory" in which you got a game company to make a worse outfit for a popular character for a single game.

Very unethical thread, you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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Feel free to go boycott the depiction of men in the novel then, faglord. I love that you guys need to go dumpster diving into fucking female erotica novels to try and make a point because you know film, gaming, etc completely shits on your point in a broad sense. Have to literally cite romantic comedies as a specific genre to mean anything. Which is like citing fucking anime dating simulators for female sexism.

Fucking hell, the difference is like night and day.

Lilith from Borderlands disagrees.

Also, did the morons who talked about her outfit being too black colored forget that gloves would be upgraded so we get additional designs just like Cloud gets different swords? Even have accessories playing a part, as Barret is shown with different belt attachments during the Airbuster fight.

The devs at Square love you retards so much and yet you spit venom at every turn, even when the argument is petty as shit. Shame on some of you.

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I dunno. Looks ethical to me.

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>Which is like citing fucking anime dating simulators for female sexism.
Which is what you and your cronies exactly do.

The default gloves should be red my good shill.

>Feel free to go boycott the depiction of men in the novel then, faglord.
I don't want to boycott, that thing is fine by me, I'm not a wreck like yo.

Then continue crying in the corner like the cuck that you are and insist you're being a champion of free speech. I don't give a fuck.

Nobody forces these companies to do anything. They choose to do it because feminists and leftists are making arguments while you sit here whining on Yea Forums. You fags don't care enough to actually go out and argue for it and fight for it, so they win by default. The world moves on.

If you want to make your boyhood smut or there's so fucking many of you demanding female bimbos in fiction, then these corporate dicksuckers wouldn't be able to ignore you. But since you're all quiet, meek faggots that just sit on the internet bitching anonymously, they just see politically active angry SJWs and they get to dictate what does and doesn't get made.

Either way, you lose. Either fight for it, make your own, or shut the fuck up.

So you admit your arguments look awful? Because they are. You do nothing but bitch about media and what not. What are you, an advocate for censorship? Why do you care so much about this shit? What is your ideal worldview then?

Seriously. Won't you ever stop bitching? Grown men want to see a doll with big tits. If you want people to be different then go to schools and teach kids that sex is sin again.

>They choose to do it because feminists and leftists are making arguments
Twitter rants are arguments now?

>that picture

Oh no.

>keep crying
>keep bitching
>keep etc
Retard, you're the only one made about this shit happening on either side of the fence. Normal men don't care about men being made sex objects in fiction, just like normal women don't care when it happens to women in fiction. You're a lunatic, and a hypocrite besides.

I haven't been a hypocrite at all, you're just fucking retarded.

LITERALLY NOTHING STOPS COMPANIES FROM MAKING MALE-FOCUSED SMUT OR BIMBOS OR WHATEVER GAY SHIT YOU FAGGOTS ARE DEMANDING. They are SLAVES to consumers as a broad entity. They are slaves to those trends. There is a reason every fucking company in the west has shifted to SJW pandering, and it has nothing to do with jews or whatever other dumb shit you want to whine about. It has to do with how politically active and vocal the left is about their beliefs. PUBLICLY.

You know what gets more bimbos and male oriented smut being made broadly in the general public? Shitloads and shitloads of sales and very vocal males demanding they want those types of characters in those games. You know what doesn't? Shutins whining on Yea Forums privately, pirating all the games they're interested in, and letting SJWs demand developers cater to their tastes without any resistance.

The point is again: NOTHING STOPS YOU, OR ANY COMPANY PERIOD, FROM MAKING THIS BIMBO SHIT YOU WANT SO BAD. You only have yourself and the general consumer demographic to blame. If you try with all your might and nothing changes, it just means you're a minority and most people don't give a fuck about what you want.

The guards are red with runes etched on one of the gloves. Though for the monk lover in me, I did wish she had thicker gloves from the start around her wrists, even in the original.

LMAO
Someone, post Sony's policies regarded sexualization

Not a hypocrite. Arguing with retards that can't read and don't understand anything is anger inducing. I don't "care" about slutty females. Developers can go make games with them if they want or not and I don't give a shit. I'm not the one crying about shifting values, demographics, and market demands. That's you guys crying in the dark about your irrelevance and inability to actually be vocal about the things you want.

Deal with it, or don't. I don't care.

>The guards are red with runes etched on one of the gloves
And that's not what they should look like, all black sleeves, red gloves. It's not fucking hard but they went out of their way to fuck it up.

nice reddit spacing, faggot.

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Post more examples of unethical characters that prove big breasted girls are evil and immoral.

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This is tifa

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i cant believe they've done this

left is pretty iconic
right just smells like some female in the ethics department was offended and had to make her a twig and cover her up even though she has barely anything to show

>character with big breasts exists = bimbo shit
You're the biggest retard i've had to read all week.
Also you should watch your reddit spacing, it's really easy to tell that you don't belong here.

>Nobody forces these companies to do anything
>ESRB
>Ethics committee
I remember when fan feed back and criticism meant something.

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ill take it

Literally remake tifa is the 4kids adaptation of character design.

>Waahh wah, RETARD THAT CANT READ! Bla bla Cry more about Titz male cis scum! Feminist are winning the battle YAS! BLA BLAH BLAH WAAAAHH WAAAAAAAAHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

>btw i don't care, sweaty ;-)
>Half of the thread has been this idiot's rants

Based, literally perfect, hire this man.

Why are companies so scared of going M rating? They could literally just do whatever they want.

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The world may never recover from such immorality.

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Because some wal-marts won't stock M games and internet companies like Amazon and Steam can refuse distribution as well.

>So you admit your arguments look awful?
No. You being stupid and not understanding the basic premise is not an excuse to accuse an argument of being awful. You don't get to state that when you don't even understand the basic point they're making.

>Seriously. Won't you ever stop bitching? Grown men want to see a doll with big tits. If you want people to be different then go to schools and teach kids that sex is sin again.
This is my last post because this line in itself is proof fucking positive you haven't read or understood a single thing I've said.

I am not the one bitching you dumb faggot. I am telling you that unless you go out and actually fucking make these companies aware that you are a consumer demographic that matters and will make them a lot of money and you yell and scream and fight back just as much as the liberals that "censor" this shit so much that you hate, you have nobody to blame but yourself. These companies are NOT LEGALLY FORCED IN ANY WAY to comply with angry SJWs. Absolutely nothing stops these companies from making sexy, stupid women with no personalities in their fiction. The reason that has been happening less and less and they've been making them less sexy is because you, as a consumer base, are either irrelevant or these companies THINK you're irrelevant because you are nowhere on their radar. The angry, complaint writing SJWs are making themselves heard, and these companies are listening.

So that means either you guys really are an irrelevant demographic and these companies have every reason to ignore your wishes in terms of making more money/appealing to a broader demographic, or you really are the bigger demographic that is being ignored because you aren't speaking up. Either way, not the SJW or companies fault.

Either fight back, or don't, but what has your INCESSANT, ENDLESS bitching accomplished for you stupid smut-craving fucks in the last decade? The answer is nothing but defeat in the mainstream.

We have this thread every hour. Make a Tifa general on /vg/

M rating means kids can't buy it.

ESRB cannot force a company to change its vision for the product. A company can only change its vision for the product to appease the ESRB.

It's a contemporary video games issue, not a static general.

Honestly, shill-kun, if you're going to be shilling your shitty dead-on-arrival censored game on our board, you'd do well to ACTUALLY read the rules.

Shilling is against the rules, btw.

M Rated games are among the best selling games in the world though, only Mario and Pokemon see any actual benefits from being accessible to children.

Doesn't matter, they want a wider market.

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>Doesn't matter,
Stuff like COD and Gears of War selling 10 and 5 millions respectively in 2007 was what got Japan to question their whole market back then, so yeah it does matter.

>dead on arrival
You people are fucking brain dead.

whats wrong with that

>YOU ARE STUPID! YOU ARE STUPID!
>Daddy number 2! user is being mean to me!
>user RETARDED! WHY DON'T YOU READ MY POSTS, I-I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU AGAIN WAHHHH

Don't you have anything else to say. Keep insulting people kiddo. Maybe someone will give you a job once you grow up if you keep being that way.

Tifa mods will be the first mods for the game guaranteed.

Makes for a watered down, less satisfying overall product.

>watered down
You can't be serious. Not seeing someone's boobs (which are exactly the same as Dissidia) isn't watered down.

>they want a wider market.
Which the M Rated market is composed of, 12 year olds want the next Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto. Ratings don't actually restrict children from getting their hands on a game, it only prevents children from buying them directly in a retailer.

I like the NT version because the outfit isn't retarded like the remake one, not because of the tits.

their numbers say otherwise. why does your opinion matter more?

Today I shall remind them

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>KT and TN
Fixed

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You can't be serious. Is that what you think it means to be watered down?

That's not the only thing that affects an M rating.

Have sex with non pixelated characters

That's a pretty shit disproportionate model.

Tell that to the suits in charge and the government, because they don't fucking know that.

They look the same size

I will never cheat on my waifu.

Right looks better.

Old Tifa was fugly.

We don't talk about KH2 Tifa.

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not sure if contrarian or zoomer

You know things are fucked when something by Tecmo Koei is being held up as an example of SOUL

Tifa is shit to begin with proce me wrong

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I'll never understand WHY THE FUCK Square Enix didn't go for these kind of models, and instead fell for the realistic meme.

Fuck, Final Fantasy VIII is a game with realistic character designs, and yet they went for KH-like aesthetics with the newest remaster.

Tifa’s tits are big enough

Please user. You need to get it together, man. The real world isn't as bad as the media puts it.

Blame XV and the tech demo they put out, it set the expectations.

Hot childhood friends with big tits kinda are the Japanese version of bimbos.

I want to suck Tifa's titties

She cute. At least they weren't attempting to replace the original outfit here.

>That pic
That's a doubt from me chief

You aren't fulling anyone, Satan

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Loved this one.

>That's you guys crying in the dark
HE SAID IT AGAIN!!!

I agree

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You're a disappointment because you're still not married.
You'd think that with all the men you've fucked, you'd find a father rather than just a sperm donor.

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>Which is what you and your cronies exactly do.
I can't say I've ever actually seen someone complain about dating sims or attempt to censor them.

Get it as a preorder bonus for the RE season pass! Normally $5.99 DLC.

Just like how you're getting older and more tired.
Change is inevitable. Don't screech and make things worse for others, just accept that less people will like you every year.

So there's no issue with this right?

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Ruin anything fun.

I understand it, but I don't think the opinions of some 23 year old slut have any value.

Why would I care? It would depend entirely on the context that picture was shown in/what kind of media it was included in and the type of person viewing it.

Nobody gives a shit if you jerk off to anime sluts in your basement. Nobody gives a shit if you jerk off to dating simulators. Some mom might not like it so much in some mainstream game their daughter is playing as far as the type of messages it sends to her, depending on context.

So while there is nothing "wrong" with the picture in itself, it could be the wrong decision for a company to include it in their media depending on their vision for the product and their demographic.

Just as the world at large doesn't care about the opinions of bitter incels that jerk off to anime.

>ESRB cannot force a company to change its vision for the product. A company can only change its vision for the product to appease the ESRB.
Not based on these companies going WE DON'T WANT A "insert rating" here whine about it.
With #gamergate it was evident how much pressure companies were on based on "middle man" no one gaved a flying fuck about but flaunted their opinions like if they had any influence. Which got more absurd with how these fucks infest the gaming community especially Nintendo of America.
I mean it's crashing and burning but damn some of these fires are disappointing.

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>CTRL+F
>Dolphin
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>Nobody gives a shit if you jerk off to anime sluts in your basement. Nobody gives a shit if you jerk off to dating simulators.
...user, where the fuck have you been or what drugs have you been on for the past 5 or so years? Because you're talking some high grade dumb fuck bullshit.
Also you said
>They do not want men dumbing them down to sex toys/sex objects in stories/media/fiction
I was merely asking if that picture is going against what women want.

>new, improved, """athletic""" Tifa
>without rail-thin Lightning limbs
You're asking too much, user!

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>Not based on these companies going WE DON'T WANT A "insert rating" here whine about it.
If they cared about their vision for the product more than they cared about money/ESRB ratings, nothing would change. The issue here isn't censorship, it's greed. The ESRB cannot force these companies to change anything, they only rate their products. The company can choose to change things if they think the ESRB rating is more important than the thing they envisioned for their product.

The problem you have is that these companies completely lack any backbone or artistic vision and instead of chosen to cave to corporate numbers, not that the ESRB is "censoring" them by trying to suggest an aopropriate age group for the product. Or in a larger sense that consumerist America has allowed and even encouraged and incentivized. companies to sacrifice their artistic vision for broad corporate appeal.

>...user, where the fuck have you been or what drugs have you been on for the past 5 or so years? Because you're talking some high grade dumb fuck bullshit.
That was a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing stops you from purchasing hentai, jerking off to hentai, or playing dating simulators in your basement. Nothing has changed in the last 5 years that would affect that. You are still 100% free to do that. You're being an alarmist retard.

>I was merely asking if that picture is going against what women want.
If you're asking if the picture you posted being included as characters in some kind of mainstream fictional media would offend feminists or liberals, the answer is probably. The difference is, as previously said, liberals fight tooth and nail for what they think is proper mainstream media depiction. You guys don't. So they win.

I dunno I'm reading through your stuff and you seem to be missing off your mark. Plenty of people think consumers choose media that reaffirms their views or morals. This is why news is very often slanted towards a certain political view. It provides a reliable base to advertise too. If you want to say its a proven fact that media controls opinions you should probably cite or a source or you're still just an annoying rando screaming on a basket weaving forum.

Smaller companies might be willing to lose money for a vision and pull it off, but the farther bigger brands go towards the sjw camp, the worse the product becomes. I don't know anyone who buys dragon age stuff anymore. I often hear Guild wars 2 brought up as an example, but the revenue model probably lets them skate by. Waifu gacha shit makes money hand over fist and it's like all anime tits. You can't tell how the sales will play out until after release, and it's difficult to point to something like an outfight change and determine an exact effect on revenue. How do you even know these changes are about sjw's winning and not just companies appeasing regions with morality standards that progressives have traditionally fought against? That would seem to be the opposite of winning. How do you tell someone to make more noise and fight but then tell them to stop complaining? All the shilling and leaks on this board would suggest companies do recognize it as a thing. I really doubt the mainstream as whole is as decided as you seem to suggest.

Having agency via your potential for motherhood is still having agency, and motherhood is the entire point of being a woman.
Complaining that a woman gets her agency via sex appeal is the same as complaining that a judge gets his agency via the legal system.

>That was a lot of words to say absolutely nothing
The line you gave was
>Nobody gives a shit if you jerk off to anime sluts in your basement. Nobody gives a shit if you jerk off to dating simulators.
Now let me ask you, why are people being called incels and people pushing to ban and censor games that will NEVER REACH MAINSTREAM APPEAL? Why are so many people suddenly caring about games that break even at 10k sales?
Why are all these people caring about what some horny guys do in their basements when they DON'T LEAVE THE HOUSE?
>Absolutely nothing stops you from purchasing hentai, jerking off to hentai, or playing dating simulators in your basement
But that wasn't what you said was it? You said no one cares what you do in your own home. That is factually false.

>If you want dumb male smut to keep being made anyways, then go fucking fight for it or make your own.
>fight for it
Ok :)

>I dunno I'm reading through your stuff and you seem to be missing off your mark. Plenty of people think consumers choose media that reaffirms their views or morals. This is why news is very often slanted towards a certain political view. It provides a reliable base to advertise too. If you want to say its a proven fact that media controls opinions you should probably cite or a source or you're still just an annoying rando screaming on a basket weaving forum.
Advertising. That's the one word I need to say and this dumb paragraph is already destroyed. Media does influence how people think and act. This is such a retarded desperate asspull that I'm not sure how you genuinely thought it was a good argument to insinuate that media DOESN'T influence people.

>Smaller companies might be willing to lose money for a vision and pull it off, but the farther bigger brands go towards the sjw camp, the worse the product becomes.
Your opinion.

> I don't know anyone who buys dragon age stuff anymore
Anecdote.

>How do you even know these changes are about sjw's winning and not just companies appeasing regions with morality standards that progressives have traditionally fought against?
...What??

>How do you tell someone to make more noise and fight but then tell them to stop complaining?
Because you guys are making noise in the one area that doesn't matter: in your own corner. Bitching on Yea Forums changes nothing. Whining to each other that everything sucks changes nothing. It has accomplished nothing for a decade, but it's all you guys know how to do because you're weirdos and social outcasts and fighting for political change or making your voice heard to a company is about the last thing you fucks would ever do. Most of you can't even talk on your microphone in-game.

>All the shilling and leaks on this board would suggest companies do recognize it as a thing.
Oh yes. Which is why you guys are winning, right?

Yep nobody said shit about this when it came out, zoomers trying to start fake as outrage as usual because they never even played any old FF games or games where the characters had cameos

>I really doubt the mainstream as whole is as decided as you seem to suggest.
It's decided precisely because people with more right wing opinions are politically inactive and have no foothold in "e-spaces" like twitter, YouTube, or wherever else, where liberals and leftists control all of that shit. Because the liberals won the culture war a decade or so ago and they've had pretty much the entire media under their control and have been slowly making everything more SJW/liberal.

So yeah, as far as that goes, they won a long time ago and you guys have done almost nothing to actually wrest control or even gain an even foothold in the media back from them. Your strategy hasn't deviated much from "cry in the basement, hope things get better eventually". Which is absolutely great news for liberals with their claws in the industry.

>Having agency via your potential for motherhood is still having agency, and motherhood is the entire point of being a woman.
Your opinion. Clearly, more people disagree with this sentiment than agree with it among the consumer public.

damn did rick owens design her?

It's more that Jews and their communist puppets will always use their power to promote their white replacement agenda.
In this case, advocating that women should get respect even if they aren't sexy and fertile, saying that it's okay to settle for a nonsexy woman.
I do get your point though. Stand up and make non-Jewish companies so there's an alternative to the woman-respecting cult.

>If they cared about their vision for the product more than they cared about money/ESRB ratings, nothing would change.
You do realize that the ones creating it are bound by their higher ups right? Not many of these creators have such freedoms other creators do.
>The issue here isn't censorship, it's greed.
Not in every instance
>The ESRB cannot force these companies to change anything,
That was never the intent behind their creation.
>they only rate their products.
Yet in this day in age parents don't want any of that responsibility.
>The company can choose to change things if they think the ESRB rating is more important than the thing they envisioned for their product.
Depends who you're asking and how much "freedom" they have or are given.

>The problem you have is that these companies completely lack any backbone or artistic vision and instead of chosen to cave to corporate numbers,
Yes I do have a problem that they lack a back bone but that's an ounce of the issue. Since they cave to it and pretend like the consumers will be blind to this shit.
It's like when a kid wants something so badly he steals it from the storage room and they go around with excuses like "i was borrowing it" and "they told me it was okay".
>in a larger sense that consumerist America has allowed and even encouraged and incentivized. companies to sacrifice their artistic vision for broad corporate appeal.
Consumerism isn't the problem its nepotism followed by outsiders dictating what this industry needs to be and should be.

Yet as it crashes and burns all they can do at this point is place blame.

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>Now let me ask you, why are people being called incels and people pushing to ban and censor games that will NEVER REACH MAINSTREAM APPEAL?
They aren't. They almost exclusively focus on mainstream gaming. This is your alarmist retard head. This is like saying the pornography industry is in danger because some people complain about it.

They literally CANNOT LEGALLY STOP hentai artists from making hentai, and they cannot legally stop you from jerking off to it. You are in no danger of that going away, and any argument to the contrary is alarmist nonsense.

These dumb articles discussing obscure games do so because they're clickbait virtue signalling articles you retard. Yes, they want to exert pressure for everyone to meet their social demands, even tangentially, but they are 100% powerless to force them to stop. This is especially true if these SJW writers aren't the demographic. They can just say "fuck off", and make more hentai.

I can, right now, go download literally thousands of terabytes of Hentai. You aren't in any danger. of losing it, idiot.

>Why are all these people caring about what some horny guys do in their basements when they DON'T LEAVE THE HOUSE?
The answer is they largely don't, other than to be judgmental. The same way you have no reason to care about making fun of some fat chic minding her own business, but you privately laugh at her fat ass anyways. Don't pretend otherwise, this is Yea Forums.

>You said no one cares what you do in your own home. That is factually false.
No, I said nobody can LEGALLY STOP YOU FROM DOING IT in your house. They can care all they fucking want. They can't stop hentai artists drawing hentai, and they can't stop you jerking off to it.

>Today I shall remind them
Skins are already a thing. No idea why they didn't just use one of them during the reveal with gameplay and do it like NT did and shoot multiple birds with 1 trailer.

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That's right, user, without comittees like these, we might have gotten an uncensored Honeybee Inn!
That might have *le absolute gasp* OFFENDED someone!

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>You do realize that the ones creating it are bound by their higher ups right?
Sure. But that just shifts blame to a different person in that studio or publisher. Those decisions still fall to them and not the ESRB, so the core argument remains the same.

>Not in every instance
Yes, in every instance. Unless you are specifically referring to heinous obscenity or things related to those laws or depictions that violate US law, the ESRB is powerless to censor any product, it can only rate them.

>Yet in this day in age parents don't want any of that responsibility.
So we, again, come back to irresponsible consumers.

>Depends who you're asking and how much "freedom" they have or are given.
But again, that decision always comes back to the creators and/or their publishers. They have complete control over the media they release, and it is completely at their discretion.

>Since they cave to it and pretend like the consumers will be blind to this shit.
But they are blind to it. There's no pretending involved. They cave and you guys still largely buy their stuff. Their numbers are telling them caving is the right choice. Your anger at them is misplaced.

I mean they did want to go a little too far with that.

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>privately
>Not doing it openly in public
Now that's just projection from some wannabe woman otherwise known as a tranny.
Only a woman or someone wanting to desperately be seen as one would do something so passive aggressively.

>No, I said nobody can LEGALLY STOP YOU FROM DOING IT in your house
>LEGALLY
Actually in this whole chain this is the first time you've said the word. So you either poorly implied it or moved the goal posts when you were outed as a faggot.

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PUBES ARE LIFE

So you're an illiterate retard. Got it.

How the fuck else is anyone going to stop you from jerking off to hentai you fucking idiot? Kick down the door and restrain you? What scenario are you imagining? Because whatever it is, it isn't happening. People are going to keep drawing tits, and you're going to keep jerking off to it.

>So you're an illiterate retard
You went from
>This is what women want
to
>I don't care
to
>Nobody cares what you do alone
to
>Nobody can make this illegal to do in your own private home
How many more flips are you going to do?

Yeah, because Yea Forums posters always make fun of people to their face. Dumb fuck.

Jesus Christ, what has become of the human race, is this it? Is our peak complaining about some decades old fictional character getting a design change? who actually FUCKING CARES, THIS SHIT IS MORE CANCER THAN SMASH THREADS, HOW PATHETIC DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS SHIT YOU FUCKING INCEL TURBOVIRGINS
>HER TITS NEED FIXING
FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE? PORN STILL EXISTS ARE YOU GONNA JACK OFF TO HER INGAME MODEL OVER ALL THE GENERIC ANIME VOICE LINES IN BATTLE OR SOMETHING? FIX? IF YOU FUCKERS PUT AS MUCH EFFORT COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT INTO ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIVES WE WOULD BE LIVING ON FUCKING MARS BY NOW INSTEAD OF ETERNALLY SHITPOSTING ON THIS TAIWANESE ORGAN TRAFFICKING IMAGE-BOARD. YOU MAKE ME WANT TO BURN MY FUCKING HOUSE DOWN AND GO ON AN ARSON SPREE IN HOPES THAT I KILL ONE OF YOU FUCKERS BECAUSE YOUR 500 POUND GELATINOUS MASS THAT WAS ONCE YOUR HUMAN BODY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE ANYWAY. THIS AUTISTIC SCREECHING THAT PIERCES THE HEAVENS HAVE MADE SQUEENIX THEMSELVES STEP IN TO QUELL YOUR CRIES OF TENDY-LACKING RETARDATION. I HOPE WHEN YOU REACH FOR YOUR VINTAGE LOTION TO SHUFFLE THROUGH YOUR MEATFLAPS AND TOUCH YOUR INVERTED DICK THAT YOU FALL OFF YOUR BED AND BE BURIED UNDER YOUR OWN CUM TISSUES YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING FAGGOTS. I HOPE YOU GET A POPCORN KERNEL STUCK IN YOUR TEETH AND COMMIT SUICIDE IN FRONT OF YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY ON YOUR BIRTHDAY OR CHRISTMAS THEN HAVE IT BROADCASTED ON A PRANK CHANNEL FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.

ENOUGH

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I haven't done any flips. You just suck shit at reading and you care more about playing victim than making sense. You can't even form an argument you just keep quoting random shit and trying to somehow make it a contradiction even though it isn't.

Just imagine if they did
>The evil being known as Yea Forums capable of making people kill themselves or selfharm says this shit in real life
We're looking at a whole new type of genocide. It'll make the holocaust look like a joke.

>you just keep quoting random shit
>Direct quotes are now random shit
You really need to get some kind of education if you can't see why direct quotes are valid.

Advertising, or media in general doesn't change someone's view. People avoid or handwave whatever disagrees with their view, and then consume what agrees with it. I believe the term is selective exposure theory. Advertisers figure out what a demographic wants and then put it in front of them, but it doesn't generally change what people want. So yes, media will have an effect in the strictest sense, but it rarely changes an opinion from one side of an argument to another.
I'm listing anecdotes as an example to show that going hard on diversity, or whatever term you want to use, does not result in greater sales. Feel free to provide counter examples. I know it's not a water tight argument in the "if p then q" sense, but often in real life, heuristics are the best you get, and it's better than making a statement without anything.

You had sex yet bro? If not have sex.
Sorry gotta sex check you bro, that's how it works bro.
Your opinion doesn't matter until you had sex bro.

Yes. As in I can quote a bunch of your random shit too. Just because they're "exact quotes" doesn't fucking mean anything if they don't amount to an argument. I was referring to different concepts at different times and you took them all to somehow be the same thing and contradictory. You're an idiot.

The stupid shit argument you appear to be making is that when I said "Nobody cares if you jerk off to hentai in your own basement", there might be some random enraged crazy mentally unhinged twitter whore SOMEWHERE on the planet that DOES care, and thus in very autismal literal terms, a single person does care! Wow, stellar argument. Fucking amazing. Really made me think that your broader point that hentai and dating sims are under massive attack is totally valid. You COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT. Jesus. Die in a fucking fire. No more replies. Enjoy your hentai, you paranoid schizophrenic moron.

Censorship never stops unless you stop it.

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>Advertising, or media in general doesn't change someone's view.
Yes, it broadly does. It is not a 1:1 ratio of conversion, it is a shotgun approach and it is gradual. Exposure to that media over a large population will shift that population. People are not born with ingrained opinions that forcibly "reject" all contrary notions. With enough exposure to media and psychological pressure, people can be influenced to an incredible degree. Humans don't like accepting that they're, in most ways, not in control over their own minds and opinions, but they aren't in control. Even those "core biases" that people latch onto are the result of media exposure and nurture.

You should also note that I never claimed media "changed opinions", only that it influenced them. Which is easily provable. The very fact that people learn new concepts, skills, and ideas through media is proof itself.

>I'm listing anecdotes as an example to show that going hard on diversity, or whatever term you want to use, does not result in greater sales
Right. You can't prove that , for one. And for two, their goal isn't necessarily monetary. Many of them do it because they believe exposure to favorable media depictions of those diverse groups will lead to a better society or better interracial social behavior.

cope

Incels with fight this

You had sex yet bro? If not have sex.
Sorry gotta sex check you bro, that's how it works bro.
Your opinion doesn't matter until you had sex bro.

>be me
>love FF7
>wait faithfully for remake ever since the PS2 era
>finally get it
>LOLEXDEE EVERYTHING IS CENSORED AND EPISODIC RELEASE
>my face right now

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Absolutely infuriated

>>be me
LIAR! I know you're me!

It's more that nowadays, you're a cynical cunt. When you're 12, shit is awesome and mommy just got you ff7 and you were like wowww awesome dude.

Now you're all jaded and overly worried about all this minutiae and detail and being picky instead of just trying to enjoy it. You get more joy out of cynically picking these things apart than you would just experiencing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=3y-WYX6-dq4

FUCK YOU SQUEENIX AND FUCK YOUR "ETHICS DEPT"