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>Nier Automata, while a smash hit and Yoko Taro's first commercial success, was mediocre from a gameplay perspective.
>Scalebound got cancelled
>Cygames fired them from the Grandblue Fantasy re:Link project, going as far as deleting any mention of them in the project
>Babylon's Fall is nowhere to be seen after being announced during last year's E3. Meanwhile other games announced around that time that were lost in limbo too (Nioh 2 and Code Vein) recently got public betas
>Astral Chain has not only done a lot of progress in the few months since its announcement, but it has gotten an unanimously positive reaction and it's shaping to be one of their best games ever.

And you guys still doubt that PG are pretty ferocious Nintendo fanboys who see other platforms as just stepping stones and sources of cash (getting bitten in the ass for that).

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if they love nintendo so much, where's bayo 3 at then?

If Babylon's Fall is Saito's project then it's very likely it will be one of their best games. Also the Re:Link situation is weird because word from both companies implied they were just done working on the game but the removal of the name is confusing and implies the opposite.

>bayonetta
>metal gear rising
>vanquish

Wasn't Scalebound going to get revived or something?

Soon. Astral Chain is being used as a test ground for some of the ideas they want to implement on Bayo 3.

They made those games to get Nintendo's attention, finally earning it with Bayonetta.

There was a rumor from some credible source saying that Nintendo was reviving a game that was cancelled. Some less-reputable guy came out and said it was Scalebound.

Nah, it won't. Because PG only gives a shit when a game is Nintendo exclusive.
It's clear that Cygames got sick and tired of PG's unprofessional behavior so they fired them; Japanese companies (and Japanese society as a whole) believe in harmony and appearances so both companies decided to just keep the thing between wraps (Cygames not publicly revealing the true reason why PG was removed and PG not saying anything besides "the work got done. No more questions".

>Astral Chain is being used as a test ground for some of the ideas they want to implement on Bayo 3.
Like n9 was used as a "test ground" for bayo 2 right? Goddamn it people like you are retarded.

Platinum likes Nintendo because they're the only major Publisher that doesn't treat them like shit outside of their original deal with SEGA. Bayo 2 was shopped around to 3 or 4 companies before Nintendo picked it up. The company was created because they hated being under a corporation like Capcom and have fought to remain independent their entire time existing (including being ready to fucking die by refusing to sell to Microsoft until Automata sold well).

One of their biggest initiatives is to self-publish IPs that they own, rather than go through red tape to develop sequels (reminder than SEGA still owns the Bayo IP on top of Nintendo owning Bayo 2 & 3 specifically). This "Platinum's goal from the start was to get with Nintendo" stuff falls apart once they start showing off new games that they will publish on every platform. I'll eat my words if their new IPs end up Switch exclusive, but I doubt that.

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I wonder if one day we'll ever know what was happening with Scalebound. The poor performance the game showed during conferences, the few "shots" Kamiya gave to MS during the game's development, the sudden cancellation.

More like Nintendo are platinum fanboys and keep throwing money at them

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>Cygames fired them from the Grandblue Fantasy re:Link project
Source? First time hearing this. The stuff they showed off looked really promising and I was cautiously hyped for this game.

I mean if I was a game developer and I had two options

>Make a multiplat game
>Create a Nintendo series

I know which one would be significantly more likely to be more beloved, remembered, and prestigious.

What was the "reviving" game?

>Cygames fired them from the Grandblue Fantasy re:Link project, going as far as deleting any mention of them in the project
Wrong. PlatinumGames had a contract with CyGames for doing base asset work and animations. The rest of the game was always meant to be developed of their own.
That PlatinumGames has been kind of struggling before NieR Automata that's a given, but that's not the case anymore.

We don't know. The rumor was just that a cancelled game was being funded by Nintendo to become real. Then people came out of the woodwork to throw out names of cancelled games that people would like to see return, like Scalebound and MML3.

Because they were funneling cash and developers that were supposed to be used to work on Scalebound on the other 5 games they were working on at the time.

Maybe Panzer Dragoon?

They will show off new games published on every platform, that's true. But those will be cheap quick cash-ins while their Switch-exclusive games will be of the highest quality.
The whole "we want to remain independent" is just a way to have their feet in two boats: they make the games they genuinely want to do for Nintendo systems, quick buck schemes for the rest, money flowing from both.

I don't see anything wrong with them wanting to work exclusively with Nintendo like Monolith or the Fire Emblem guys do. I just find unethical the way they use their prestige to peddle shit on non-Nintendo consoles.
If they're going to have that attitude, they better stay with Nintendo and ignore the rest.

>mediocre from a gameplay perspective.
Ok. Let me raise a counter point.
Drakenguard 1-3 and Nier all had unanimously agreed apon shit gameplay from top to bottom.
In that sense the only thing keeping Yoko Taro's games from being smash hits were the fact that all of them besides Nier played like shit.

>Scalebound got cancelled
A few weeks before release. Also Microsoft is notorious for being far too invasive in games exclusive to their platform.
>>Cygames fired them from the Grandblue Fantasy re:Link project, going as far as deleting any mention of them in the project
They did their job, Got payed and left.
Platinum is a contract dev.

Platinum love Nintendo, because Kamiya pretty much goes "Fuck Sony for not funding my game, and fuck Microsoft for cancelling my game"

That's a remake that was already announced and is SEGA outsourcing it to a cheap dev team.

You post this bizarre take once a week and I still don't get it. Some of Platinum's best games, even after they started working with Nintendo, have been multi-plats. Bayonetta 1, Vanquish, and Revengeance shit on Bayo 2. Star Fox Zero was an exceedingly weak game (that's more on Miyamoto's "vision" but by your metric Platinum would've done everything in their power to save it). Bayo 3 is clearly in development hell.

I could see why Kamiya is pro-Nintendo, since they let him make Wonderful 101 (the best Platinum game IMO) and funded sequels to Bayonetta. The team as a whole though, I doubt it, and it's not like Kamiya has end-all-be-all control over the business decisions the company makes; I'd assume Inaba and their CEO have more sway in that regard.

Kamiya is also a CEO. He has control over at least a third of the studio.

>Platinum games
>The company composed of Capcom devs that split off after the executives forced out cheap ps2 ports of their Gamecube games
I have no idea why they wouldn't prefer sony.

MS doesn't get involved in what their studios develop and lets them do whatever they want with basically no oversight at all. That's why bamco and capcom got more involved with them, MS gives complete creative freedom. Unfortunately for them this allowed platinum to do to them what gearbox did to sega with colonial marines.

I really really want to see scalebound come back ...as a metroid game
...about the X parasites taking over a planet
...and you play as a Loli SA-X

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The only hope they have is Nintendo buying them. But Ninty probably doesnt care

That's not the complete list, you're missing:
>Bayonetta 3 is still MIA despite being revealed 2 years ago
>World of Demons disappeared from the surface of the earth
>Same for Lost Order after a lukewarm beta

what is yoko taro working on now? where the fuck is nier 3

They are ex Clover that left after Okami bombed and the studio disbanded.
Only Mikami was sore about RE4 ported to PS2

>MS doesn't get involved in what their studios develop
That's seems to be the complete opposite of the case when it came to Scalebound.
Microsoft was interfering and forcing Platinum to make the game multiplayer. They kept coming in and telling them to change things and finally right before the game was release Microsoft didn't believe the game was up to their standards and trashed it.

Now imagine if they didn't get involved and you could play this dragon buddy cop game and it was originally intended to be. a single player game with no involvement from Microsoft.

He's making an Automata-themed raid for FFXIV due later this year.

Game wasnt close to release if the E3 demo was any sign. It looked boring and unpolished and clearly needed more time

The e3 demo was two years old before the release date came.

Viewtiful Joe

They added extra content to the Ps2, never heard Kamiya complaining about it, unlike Mikami throwing a tantrum over RE4

What about World of Demons?
What about the other mobile strategy game that the Ogre Battle dude is helping them make and Cygamrs is publishing?

>Cygames fired them from the Grandblue Fantasy re:Link project
Didn't know about this, I even see the stream version they did in the past, top kek

Because it's wrong. Platinum was a contract worker on the game. They more than likely just made the characters animations and gameplay and then CC2 came in to do everything else.

>PG's unprofessional behavior so they fired them;
Quick rundown?

When working on a non-Nintendo exclusive, PG always does a half-assed work resulting on said projects being cancelled, them being fired or the finished games being outright trash.

Source. Your ass.

>Blocks your path
Your argument makes no sense when this multi-plat (but not on Nintendo) licensed game with a small budget is Platinum's 2nd-best game and one of the best action games ever made.

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I don't know man. Taura's team is plenty competent and a lot of people liked MGR. Its only downsides was that the team had only 8 months to finish the game after Kojima surrendered on the project.
I'm sure Nier Auotamata would have also been better gameplay wise if it stuck to being an action adventure game instead of trying to add all those RPG elements, which ending up fucking difficulty balance (notice how this wasn't an issue in their previous non-RPG action games)

Muh Nigga. I'll ask the same questions i ask every time it comes up.

1. Do Vehicle Attack TECH or Ranged Attack TECH affect Wheel Jack's projectile type Vehicle Attacks?

2. Do elemental + stats affect other equipped weapons? Like if my Thermal spreadshot has Thermal + skills on it, will it also boost the power of my Thermal Sword?

3. Does Grimlock's ulti deal Thermal? And does it get boost by thermal skills? Does Prime's ulti do the same but with energon?

4. Is there an aspd cap? I'm wondering if i can get max benefits with just like 3 attack speed skills and then stack that with overdrive mode, thus freeing 3 slots on a weapon for elementals or other things.

I'm too lazy to test despite pouring hours into the game!

>>Nier Automata, while a smash hit and Yoko Taro's first commercial success, was mediocre from a gameplay perspective.

Plain Wrong

>>Scalebound got cancelled

Because MS and PlatinumGames

>>Cygames fired them from the Grandblue Fantasy re:Link project, going as far as deleting any mention of them in the project

Plain wrong and false

>>Babylon's Fall is nowhere to be seen after being announced during last year's E3. Meanwhile other games announced around that time that were lost in limbo too (Nioh 2 and Code Vein) recently got public betas

Will get revealed next year


>>Astral Chain has not only done a lot of progress in the few months since its announcement, but it has gotten an unanimously positive reaction and it's shaping to be one of their best games ever.
>And you guys still doubt that PG are pretty ferocious Nintendo fanboys who see other platforms as just stepping stones and sources of cash (getting bitten in the ass for that).

Oh a Nintendo cocksucker

heres your source bro

twitter.com/granblue_en/status/1137198074655207425

Its the same guy trying to spread the story that PG fuck about on none Nintendo projects

You're asking the wrong guy. I've put a lot of time into it myself but you're probably one of five people who have really put in the time more than I have (of the dozen or so that truly love it out there).

How was Nioh 2 in limbo? They announced it at E3 2018 and showed the beta 8 months later.

>Yoko Taro's first commercial success
the original drakengard sold enough to be considered a success
it was a different time

Mutha.....one of these days i'm gonna sit down and sketch out some ideas to test. Attack speed is the trickiest one to test. We know it affects animations for your command attacks and counters, so it's VERY worth to stack 6 on weapons as well as overdrive skills on your guns/TECH. You can see the difference just spamming your launcher against a wall with no enemies around in the first area. Problem is, if the cap ISN'T 6 attack speed + overdrive but actually something like 2 or 3 speed + overdrive then it'll be really tricky to determine. I guess you could build overdrive in a fight, freeze the last enemy, then try to spam launcher against a wall. Maybe capture the footage and compare the frames? I've never actually done any capture aside from just streaming so i'll have to be not lazy and do that.


WHERE IS MY SS PRIME AXE?1?!? DO PRIME AXES JUST BECOME BATTLE BLADES AFTER RANK 'A'??!?!

Maybe it's just easier to develop games for Nintendo's weak tablet. Just because you're a tendie doesn't mean everyone is.

Nintendo are desperate for games and they need Platinum. Platinum doesn't need them.

>When you're so full of soi you project it unto everyone

Yikes

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Platinum would rather develop games for real systems. They make games for Nintendo out of pity.

I'm more pissed about Babylon's Fall because the art for that looked amazing. I want more traditional Japanese take on western fantasy stuff, Granblue Relink and Babylon's Fall were my only hope and both and nowhere to be found

That tells me they weren't fired. They completed their contract and moved on. Because Platinum has always been a contract based Dev.

I don't believe you. Why the fuck would people buy Drakengard?

Babylon is one of my most anticipated games just from what I assume it will be and the art design. If it's Saito on it, giving us a midpoint between dungeon crawlers and fast-paced action games, taking the Diablo-like elements from TF Devastation even further, then it could be a brilliant game.

More than anything, its absence at E3 this year tainted my opinion of Square's show. It seemed fine if you like more traditional JRPGs.

Its a known fact cygames want to make legit games and use the gacha bucks to fund it, it just sounds like they hired PG to create the ground work for them to make the game themselves.

>Fuck Sony for not funding my game
why did sony never fund their shit? They always fund weird shit with inexperienced devs that often times cost more money in the end. All their AAA exclusives are either first party games or closely related to them i.e R&C, The Order. Then they go and fund/assist on stuff like Lost Soul Aside which is a action game very much like Platinum Game would develop.

That was supposed to come out this year, wasn't it? Guess there's no way that's happening now.

Their self published game won't be on a Nintendo platform, sooooo....

Too much game, not enough movie. Better funnel more money into David Cage.

>finally earning it with the game that came out before the other two
Anyway, do you really think people can't tell it's always the same person pushing this meme?

its called OP twisting words so he can lie to support his shitty thread

Maybe now that Spencer is in charge, but Scalebound was cancelled before that.

That's because Platinum would rather make games for real platforms. They only made games on Nintendo's gimped system because Nintendo pays them.

Oh, by the way. This article comes from Resetera, doesn't it? In this case, why can't we talk of a serious problem there?

>>Nier Automata... was mediocre from a gameplay perspective.
Nope. The quests got repetitive, but the gameplay was extremely polished.

This thread has nothing to do with any article, fuckface. Go derail some other thread.

fucking forgot the link to the article I wanna post... resetera.com/threads/platinums-cult-of-personality-masks-their-abysmal-content-output.123612/

Resetera has pedo problems.

>An invincible dodge that could be spammed to hell and back
>Shoehorned RPG mechanics
>Polished

Pretty sure it does since a shit thread about how Platinum is actually bad has been getting reposted here all day, this one is probably trying to do the same thing but without linking that shit hole

That's a very different issue: people spamming "__________ game by Platinum when?" for years.

This person has been trying to get people to buy their nonsense for a while, it predates that thread by weeks.

there's nothing to be pissed about in regards to Babylon's Fall. A year is still a short time of development for a game being announced with no gameplay and really only a lore/concept art trailer. 3 years is only when it gets weird

>mediocre from a gameplay perspective
What? Of all the things, you think the gameplay is mediocre? Maybe play it instead of watching a playthrough but then again you've spoiled the experience for yourself already.

How many times do you need to make this thread because you got mad you got blocked on twitter

they made a starfox tribute in bayonetta and want to make a starfox game from the ground up. theyre nintendo fanboys who would love to be second party.

if that were true then why did they force Rare to make kinect sports

Bayonetta had Space Harrier, After Burner, and Sonic the Hedgehog references, among others. Transformers Devastation gave a lot of love to G1. Nier Automata exists because at least one developer as Platinum wanted to work on Nier. The company is composed of lots of people who like lots of things, including Nintendo games.

Fuck those games where's Bayonetta 3?

still doesnt change they want to make a starfox game and have gone on record saying they loved to work with Nintendo

I thought they already made a starfox game and it was trash.

Maybe they just like video games, especially behind-the-ship-view rail shooter shmups? Kamiya's Space Harrier boner has existed as far back as DMC1.

then you thought wrong then retard, platinum only helped with the visuals not the gameplay

What a surprise that a game developer who likes star fox would like to make a star fox game, and that a freelance company would like working with a publisher that gives them creative freedom and consistent funding. Being fanboys who sabotage other projects and actively conspire to be purchased by Nintendo is a pretty big fucking leap from that.

Nah man you don't get it, Devil May Cry was only the beginning of Kamiya's long quest to get Nintendo's attention.

the sabotage theory is fucking retarded, no one would ever want to build a bad rep for releasing bad games

monolith is owned by nintendo you dumb fuck. the last time any part of them was controlled by namco was in 2012, and they sold their stake to nintendo. they're first party.

I remember reading somewhere that they designed the combat in nier to be just a more polished and responsive version of the original nier combat
Not a full on character action system like in bayo

The only reason Nier: Automata sold well was because of Yoko Taro's vision. Platinum games would have gone bankrupt AGES ago otherwise.

Where the absolute FUCK is my Babylon's Fall?
Where the absolute FUCK is my Project Arise?
Where the absolute FUCK is my Granblue Fantasy: Relink?

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I don't think Platinum ever had anything to do with project arise.

There's another project Arise?

They aren't sabotaging games. They just do mediocre work on them so they can earn cash to support their Nintendo games while putting all of their hard work and creative input on said Nintendo games.
The equivalent of a movie director making trash for mass consumption to fund his artistic independent movies. Except the audiences are tricked into believing that the trash will have the same quality as his independent films.

Most of their games are on play station. Why are sonyroaches so mad at platinum? Nier Automata was first on the PS4. They used Nintendo as a ladder to self publish. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Take your autism pills.

based retard

At the end we can agree on something:
Only buy PG games when they're Nintendo exclusives, ignore anything they put on other systems.

God, you're retarded

I redirect you to and I say that being very excited for Astral Chain and having W101 as my favorite game of all time.

If that Transformers game is so good, why no one gives a shit about it while people still talk fondly of titles like Metal Gear Rising or Vanquish? because it must be shit.
You talk big because you own a Switch and therefore have access to all the good PG games. Well, good for you. Enjoy them. Just don't expect us to fund your games. At least not anymore.

>so they can earn cash to support their Nintendo games
The entire reason why Platinum loves working with Ninteno so much is that they bankroll the entire thing and don't care if the game sells badly. Why the fuck would they spend their own cash on Nintendo games.

Everyone knows it's you OP, you retarded sad fuck.

I never denied that.
But you're right, it's arrogant and pathetic of my part using the word "us"; it reeks of projection. Let me rephrase that:

Just don't expect me to fund your games. At least not anymore.

I really don't even get his point. I can't tell if he's pro-Nintendo or not. Certainly the first time I've seen somebody outright lie and call Devastation bad instead of the usual "I never played it" I get when I mention it.

>people hype up Platinum games as the best dev ever
>go into multiple Nier/Bayonetta threads and try discussing the games
>get called a faggot while people just want to spam porn of their waifus

And that's why I consider every platinum game to be shit. Astral Chain looks to be no different, and it's already inciting porn spam in every single thread, inbetween the incessent console warring at least.

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Have you played the games and formed your own opinion on them instead of letting thirsty Yea Forums shitposters' actions color your thoughts? Have you considered that people like their games without female protagonists and little-to-no waifus such as Madworld, Revengeance, Wonderful 101, and Devastation?

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Where’s Bayonetta 3, boss?

Anyone who shits on Devastation is a tasteless faggot whose every statement can and should be discarded as worthless at the earliest possible opportunity.

If someone tells you Devastation is shit, and then tells you that the sky is blue, brace yourself for a red motherfucking sky.

Nier Automata had great gameplay IMO with variety that kept it fresh. I also loved the setting and exploration.

Also, I loved Madworld for the Wii. It felt like a stress-reliever.

So yeah OP enjoys getting his ass filled with hot man-gravy.

>Have you played the games and formed your own opinion on them instead of letting thirsty Yea Forums shitposters' actions color your thoughts?
I have actually. It led me down a path of button mashing, massive amounts of unnecessary and stupid cutscenes, quick time events in every nook and cranny, all dressed up with titties and asses so the masses will lap it up like the good sheep that they are. It's exactly why Yea Forums's thirsty shitposters are so drawn to them, because it gives them the instant gratification of sex without any of the underlying quality that a regular game would have.

You ever notice how we never have common threads about Madworld or Devastation, yet Nier and Bayonetta are brought up 24/7? Funny how those series are the ones that have heavy dosages of waifus, and are thus the only ones that fans care for.

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Yorha: Dark Apocalypse. Don't hold your breath for another Nier. If it does happen it will as different as Automata was compared to the original.

Is THAT why the Arwing turns into a chicken so it can dodge-roll away from enemy attacks? Because Platinum didn’t have anything to do with the gameplay?

Also Star Fox Guard.

>I loves Nier because it had muh waifu's ass in lingerie and bondage

ftfy. There's no need to lie on the internet user.

*will be

He's pro Nintendo pretending to be anti-Nintendo. "Wow, this company who's most well known and liked titles (Bayonetta, MGR, Nier:Automate) are all fucking multiplats only shows their real power when they work for Nintendo". Basically an angry PC-Wojak crying about Bloodbourne that is meant to be taken seriously.
Your jig is up, fuck off.
Also Platinum track record on Nintendo consoles is shit:
>Wonderful 101: the only game people wish to play
>Bayonetta 2: universally considered inferior to the original
>Star For games: shit
>Astral Chain: not out yet
Yes, I'm sure Kamiya had that grand masterplan to use all his resources to release one game, worth playing on Nintendo console. It's super nice of Platinum that despite never making their biggest hit ever (N:Automata) available on Switch the at least sabotaged the combat to make Nintendo fanboys a bit less bitter about not playing it.

Madworld is also old as fuck, and Devastation delisted from sale.

We don’t tend to have a lot of threads about Anarchy Reigns either, and that was full of waifus. And we still have plenty of regular Revengeance threads despite it being essentially waifu-free.

>You ever notice how we never have common threads about Madworld or Devastation, yet Nier and Bayonetta are brought up 24/7? Funny how those series are the ones that have heavy dosages of waifus, and are thus the only ones that fans care for.
Because it's fucking Yea Forums.

>"essentially waifu-free"
Yeah, sure.

Are you stupid? that comes from the canceled Starfox 2. why the hell would you think barrel rolling is unique to starfox? you could already do it on land with the landmaster.

It was. Yeah, Mistral was there, but most Revengeance threads are “MEMES, JACK” / “NANOMACHINES, SON” / “RULES OF NATURE” / “GOOD OL DAYS AFTER 9-11” / Colgate shitposting. Mistral is the most forgotten character in the fucking game, and none of what Yea Forums remembers most about the game has anything to do with her.

The same shit happened to DMC threads. It's the fate of any skill-based game with hot girls on it on a board where nobody can be bothered to get good.

I'm guessing it's a combination of factors. Little marketing, being released as a budget title (people assume it's light on content. It is, but only in the story/cutscene department. Gameplay is all there), and being a licensed title after Korra probably makes people wary. Also, it had Diablo loot which can be a big turn off even tho it's not really hard to game the system and make it irrelevant really fast.

>still mad about bayo 2

I find it ironic that Platinum were brought in to assist in the development of a spacecraft shooter and suddenly you could run around an arena rolling out of the way of enemy attacks.

It’d be like asking IdTech for assistance developing Super Mario Odyssey and suddenly Mario’s shooting goombas with a shotgun.

And yet the game doesn't receive even a quarter of the threads of Nier or Bayo, again because of the waifus.

This is what I expect of astral Chain and Bayonetta 3. If I see porn constantly posted in their threads, I'm going to discard the games as shit. A good game would only incite gameplay discussion and not shitty porn dumps.

>A good game would only incite gameplay discussion and not shitty porn dumps.
If this were in fact true, then Devil May Cry 5 would have to be a worse game than Gone Home, purely based on the nature of Yea Forums threads about each one

>buttonmashing
LOL, have sex

Nier is their most recent game, of course it gets the most threads.

Bayo essentially never gets threads these days, no more than MGR does.

>And yet the game doesn't receive even a quarter of the threads of Nier or Bayo, again because of the waifus.
Or perhaps because it's fucking irrelevant compared to them. It's a 6 years old spinoff of the currently dead series. Bayonetta has super-hyped upcoming games and is in Smash. Nier Automata was 2017 GOTY.

DMC Threads were hurt way more by lusting after the guys than any Lady/Trishposters.
>A good game would only incite gameplay discussion and not shitty porn dumps.
That kind of logic is going to steer you away from some good games if you use Yea Forums as your only barometer. Would you shy away from Ninja Gaiden because of the DoA girls showing up?

Ironically Gone Home is better for inciting gameplay discussion, because at least people can discuss the game's failings (aka every single thing it did). Meanwhile, DMC is nothing but DUDE MEMES HAHA PIZZA XDXD

It's honestly just like with smash bros threads. Yes, I get it. You like the game. But for crying out loud, do we really need 50 threads an hour about it? and then you complain when someone wants to have a non-platinum thread.

>Nier Automata was 2017 GOTY.
You only say that because you want to fuck 2B, or you're the minority that wanted to fuck 9S, or A2. Whichever. I never heard an argument in favor of the actual game part, just how much the characters made them horny.

>Would you shy away from Ninja Gaiden because of the DoA girls showing up?
Yes, I would. Talking about waifus occasionally is one thing, but every single thread being a dedicated dump of one's 50 terabyte folder of porn? That's another thing.

Hi Eric, nice to see you still SEETHING every day.
Good to see you haven't killed yourself yet, you're a great lolcow

I agree with you that Automata was overrated garbage selling on ass, but your system of metrics is pants-up-anus retarded.

Please understand, when someone recommends me a platinum game, and yet their idea of good discussion is 500 posts of "DUDE I WANT 2B TO SIT ON ME AND FART ON ME HAHA WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT XD" then I have to take a step back and resist the urge to vomit.

Oh dear, dude. This can’t be farther from the truth. MS and Xbox is grossly incompetent when it comes to funding projects. Their MO is basically to buy out a company of value and then just let the software rot until it’s no longer valuable. They keep making money by doing this so they’re not gonna stop

>Yes, I would.
>Shying away from arguably the best action game ever created because Itagaki inserted Rachel & Ayane as mostly-inconsequential parts of the story that aren't even on your screen for 90% of the game (85% if you're playing Sigma where you play as Rachel for brief levels)

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Every time it seems Microsoft is turning things around, I take an attitude of “we’ll see” yet am always disappointed

Oh I understand; this is an ACfag thread after all. Goodbye.

>>Shying away from arguably the best action game ever created
>an action game that wouldn't have even been a blip on anyone's radar if the devs didn't decide to shove in tits to get it to sell

That's been pretty much every platinum game ever made too. How can I take a Ninja Gaiden fan seriously when they're too busy jerking off to porn to wanna discuss the actual damn game?

Took you a while to recognize him, he's the most predictable fag on earth.

That "argument" only makes sense if you are gay as fuck.

We don't know exactly what happened and on what terms they parted but Re:Link is now being completely developed by CyGames and they scrubbed all of the Platinum logos from their websites and ads and said they are no longer working with them.

It's obvious they don't want Bayo 3 to steal the thunder from Astral Chain, I expect to hear about it sooner than later, maybe a trailer at the winter direct with a release date next E3 on the best case scenario, after all it's not like Nintendo didn't pull bigger IPs out of their hats on random directs. I'm more worried about Babylon's Fall, the fuck happened with that one?

It's basic economics. If you love porn, you can get it for free on the internet.When I pay 60 bucks, I expect an experience that I wouldn't normally be able to get for free. Yet MGS Revengeance was just hours of button mashing, Bayonetta was hours of cutscenes and QTEs, and Nier was just a neverending pretentious trash heap of a story hidden under sexy maid outfits and asses.

You strip out all the smoke and mirrors, and all that's left is a bland game that would make even God of War look better in comparison.

>You only say that because you want to fuck 2B, or you're the minority that wanted to fuck 9S, or A2. Whichever. I never heard an argument in favor of the actual game part, just how much the characters made them horny.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nier:_Automata#Accolades

They insist development is going well, IDK why Squeenix didn’t show it. Maybe they didn’t want to pull attention off Final Fantasy? Maybe it’s not gonna make its 2019 window?

Platinum certainly aren’t letting on any hints that development is troubled. I dunno.

The thing is that people in NG threads don't even talk about the girls and are almost entirely separate from the DoA waifufags, which goes to show that you seem to want to make massive assumptions when it comes to this. The mere fact that an attractive female is in the game turns you away from it for some reason. I'm not one of those who thinks waifus need to be in every game, in fact to a less extreme extent I agree with you about threads around here, but you're beyond close-minded.

Do you just not play fighting games because they often have attractive characters? Have you steered clear of Street Fighter because of Chun-Li?

So yes, you're gay as fuck.
Thanks for confirming.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if people were temporarily pulled off of Babylon to help save Bayo 3 which has clearly been in development hell and that's what's causing Babylon to miss its window.

>can't defend the merits of his game, so he has to rely on paid off """"game journalists""""

That's gonna be a yikes from me. What I find even funnier is this:

>it won the award for best story and music, but everyone hated the actual gameplay
Talk about cinematic shit.

And what does that have to do with anything? What kind of half-assed argument is "LOL UR GAY"?

>The thing is that people in NG threads don't even talk about the girls and are almost entirely separate from the DoA waifufags
I have never seen a separation of the two fandoms. Whenever the waifufags spam their porn folders, even the "moderate NG fans" don't say a word, because they don't want to talk about the game either. They just want porn.

>Do you just not play fighting games because they often have attractive characters? Have you steered clear of Street Fighter because of Chun-Li?
Considering that we can't even have a Street fighter thread without people spamming porn of Cammy, chun li, and foot fetish porn of that new bitch that was introduced a while back, yes I have steered clear of the series since.

>>can't defend the merits of his game, so he has to rely on paid off """"game journalists""""
It also won Yea Forumsgas it you care that much what random retards on Yea Forums think. And you do considering the fact that you agonize to no end over people here not talking about the games in a way you approve of.
>it won the award for best story and music, but everyone hated the actual gameplay
Most casuals loved it, people here thought it was OK.

Man, I wish Nier Automata had great gameplay. I absolutely loved everything else except for the gameplay (more specifically, the quests and combat). It was just repetitive and mindless, you had to go out of your way to do somewhat interesting combos while in reality it's just more efficient to spam light attack and hold down the firing button. I could not force myself to play through it two more times to get the full experience, but I wish I could

I’m convinced Babylon’s Fall is a service-based title, so I’m betting it’s just more of a learning curve than they expected.

>firing
the contract expired you retards

you even had Cygames thanking them for establishing for them and PG telling people to look forward despite being not involved anymore

Nier Automata sold on sexy characters. They go and make Astral Chain with old hags and shitty non sexy outfit. It's like they want it to fail.

I think you need to start separating your lack of enjoyment browsing Yea Forums with your ability to enjoy video games. There's games I love that either have no threads or garbage threads on here.

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It had potential, the problem was
>gunplay underdeveloped
>enemies too weak for the melee system to matter.

Just give me Transformers Devastation: The Full Fucking Action RPG. Please, Platinum, for the love of god, it’s all I want in this world.

>you had to go out of your way to do somewhat interesting combos while in reality it's just more efficient to spam light attack and hold down the firing button

That's what I love the most about Platinum games, you can get away with doing the bare basics or you can go full crazy and experimental. That you thought Automata had bad gameplay says more about your playstyle than it does about the game, I personally thought it was 9/10.

That’s 100% not how a contract works. At all. When Brad Pitt finishes shooting his part for a movie, and it goes into post-production, they don’t take his name off the fucking posters.

Their work entitles them to their credit. To have their name removed suggests a breach/failure of contract which caused CyGames to pull the game away from them, when the intended plan was for them to complete development.

>It also won Yea Forumsgas it you care that much what random retards on Yea Forums think.
Yea Forums suffers from loving waifus over anythign else, so they're not too trustworthy either.

>Most casuals loved it, people here thought it was OK.
Casuals loving it isn't quite the best argument in its favor.

I love obscure games though. But I love them for many reasons, one of which being that they don't need constant 24/7 circlejerks. Their time passed, so they don't need attention constantly brought to them. That's what waifus are made for, to sell your game when you don't have anything else to drag people in.

>Considering that we can't even have a Street fighter thread without people spamming porn of Cammy, chun li, and foot fetish porn of that new bitch that was introduced a while back, yes I have steered clear of the series since.

Did you just wrote that you've abandoned the series because you disliked the game threads on Yea Forums? That's absolutely pathetic. Thanks for invalidating everything you wrote or ever will write.
I mean seriously, that's how you chose the games to play? You go to the most pathetic place on the internet, where half of the population activelly hate video games, and then base your choice on the quality of game discussion. And not even to chose games to check out next. You will actively stop liking game you've already liked if the discussion here deteriorates? Get professional help.

I have 100 hours logged in Bayonetta on PC ALONE and am currently churning my way through S-Ranking DMC5’s DMD difficulty. I am not the best action game player on the planet but I am competent enough to understand their design, balance, and various attributes.

Automata was a fucking snorefest. Truly a waste of Platinum’s talented staff.

I've played a good amount of Platinum games. The difference is that in other games I actually felt I benefited from going beyond the basic moveset, but in Automata it felt like I had to force it. The core combat also just felt bland to me, unlike other Platinum games

>Yea Forums suffers from loving waifus over anythign else, so they're not too trustworthy either.
Except when they discuss waifus instead of gameplay, then they are alphas and omegas - the grand sages of gaming.
>Casuals loving it isn't quite the best argument in its favor.
The game is universally liked both by waifu loving faggots on Yea Forums, the waifu hating press and waifu agonstic general populace. You are one of a few people who dislike it and you only dislike it because people on Yea Forums are talking about waifus and not about the gameplay.

Not him, but the gameplay was super mediocre. When the best defense its OWN fans can put up is “well it’s better than the original Nier”, you know it’s pretty shitty on the absolute scale of action gameplay.

>Did you just wrote that you've abandoned the series because you disliked the game threads on Yea Forums?
Not like the games ever kept me invested. I try to like fighters, but I need a strong singleplayer to keep me interested, and fightan games aren't quite known for that. They are literally dependent on multiplayer. It is their lifeline, and without that, the game dies and you have to spend another 60 bucks on Super Ultra Hyper Street Fighter 10 Championship gold edition.

That's why I've never paid for a PC multiplayer game, unless it had a strong singleplayer to keep me occupied. So if anything, that's the major reason why I hate fightan games, and the waifus are just one part of the problem.

>You will actively stop liking game you've already liked if the discussion here deteriorates?
If the discussion reflects the state of the game, then it's a sign that the game is deteriorating too, especially if it's a multiplayer game. A good game would get good discussion, then people would stop talking about it. I expect that. but if they think they need 24/7 generals on every single board, and only spam it with porn, then it's a sign of problems.

Platinum is easily one of the most overrated devs out there right now. They made two really good original games, then just copy and pasted their "CUHRAZY" meme onto other people's games and got praised to high hell and back. If another company did that you same people would call them a bunch of hacks.

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From soft made the same game 6 times in a row and people love them

>The game is universally liked both by waifu loving faggots on Yea Forums, the waifu hating press and waifu agonstic general populace.
If the press like it, doesn't that make it a shit game? After all, this same argument is used against common movie games like TLOU and Uncharted. "sony paid them off" being the common argument.

Suddenly you now trust them?

I'll say that, while the gameplay isn't the best out of all action games, I do think there is something great in there. The issue with Nier: Automata's gameplay, in my opinion at least, is just that it's an RPG; essentially you've got an action game that punishes you for practicing its mechanics against enemies a lot by making you level up way more and thus having a less satisfying experience.

I actually quite enjoyed playing N:A a second time and purposely avoiding every single optional thing that would give me experience so I was hitting every boss at the minimal level I could, it does show a lot of the areas where the combat and gameplay is heavily lacking, but I found it was much, much more enjoyable than when I played the first time and was disgustingly overlevelled for everything. I played on Hard, for reference.

>Where the absolute FUCK is my Babylon's Fall?
TGS
>Where the absolute FUCK is my Project Arise?
TGS
>Where the absolute FUCK is my Granblue Fantasy: Relink?
Clearly still in development. Just Platinum finished it's contract work for the game last year.