Why is Game Freak so lazy

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They're only partially lazy. The other part is pure incompetence.

Because the last time they put their hearts and souls into something and created some of the best games in the series, people hated it. So why try? The public doesn't deserve good pokemon games because of how they responded to Gen V.

they have to push it out in time with the garbage anime, so yes. It is a rush job.

First versions are always rushed. Especially SS considering it hasn't even been a year since LGPE and they're also working on Town. I don't think they even have enough employees to split between three projects.

DK looks weird with no teeth

All I care about is the water. How does the water look like in Shield and Sword?

they're so fucking sick of Pokemon games they figure if they produce a pile of absolute shit as the first major console outing that isn't newbie bait since >XD Nintendo will finally go UGH FINE and actually try to ENFORCE GODDAMN QUALITY

It has this weird fake reflection over it. Looks kind of shit really.
youtu.be/gR09NMx4rY0

Why are they mainline games never outsourced to other studios? Battle Revolution from 10 years ago had more impressive animations/graphics by far

They both look like ass
Botw's filter is pure garbage

Yet they claimed that LGPE was just a filler from the b-team since the "real" games need more time. Seriously, no matter how you try to explain this shit, Masuda made sure that it all comes down to utter fducking laziness.

battle revolution was ass, might've looked impressive for the time but had no content

What about when you ramp up the saturation

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Megas were gay too. Z moves too.

Calling SwSh the first version is a joke. It's basically the tenth version of red and blue. Gamefreak is just incompetent. But it's not like they have to try since the games sell regardless of their quality. Gamefreak has been doing their "introduce feature and then take it away in the next game" schtick for two decades now.

if you cared about graphics you wouldn't play on nintendo consoles.

Any way to do this with mods on switch?

*Ever since the Wii

should have just kept it 2d
or hired some competent developers

At least Pokemon has decent gameplay

Stop buying Pokemon.
Buy Digimon.
They have waifus and Husbandos for non-furries too.

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Well you can admit the graphics are worse but still have some standards. If games with 10x the content and complexity look better on the same console, there's a problem

Not to my knowledge. Maybe once all the hacking develops more.

>buy S/M
>X/Y felt empty as fuck, prepare for disappointment
>it's actually very good
>everything feels actually fresh and pretty much improved since X/Y
>loving the new gameplay elements
>reach 2/3 of the game
>suddently everything is rushed as fuck
>one of the trial captains just gives you the badge without even fighting
>there's literally nothing to do in the ultra world despite being teased the whole game
>the game ends before I even realize it
>massive disappointment

>US/UM get announced a year later
>contain all the extra content that felt missing from the first one

I haven't bought a single Pokémon game after this shit. I preordered Sword after hearing about open world and I actually thought they were trying to do things right this time, but after the national dex stuff I'm considering skipping this one too. Fuck GameFreak.

Same tree copy paste, not even rotated

Yes, which is why I only praised it for the visuals, but even outsourcing some of the development seems better than what they're doing now to end up with Gamecube-tier graphics

Fuck you user

Not the same comparison as Pokemon came out on a handheld.

The series has felt rushed since XY. Gamefreak needs to stop shitting out a game a year.

it's a korok puzzle

Thats the puzzle

god breath of the wild was ugly
such a giant turd. I really don´t understand how anybody got any enjoyment out of it

The issue is they can't, they are mandated a schedule by the rest of the franchise
the pokemon brand is much larger than just the games, and they need to shit out new merch and run the anime, which needs to coincide with the game release. Gamefreak are slaves to their own IP.

If you had a single brain cell you would have been able to predict this for a long time now.

They actually played it

videogames are fun

They develop games for toddlers and infants... why would they care about visuals? Tbh I'm sure coding/animating/modelling/spriting all the 95120+ pokemon consumes most of their budget/time, though.

Let's go was too profitable only having 151 pokemon, people gave it a pass cause surely gen 8 would have everything, but alas

>the excuse for cutting pokemon is that the rest of the game will improve for it
>rest of the game still looks like shit though
>gamefreaks proves they still dont understand how to make good pokemon games by adding another mid-battle powerup gimmick instead of anything actually substantial

theyve been using the same animations/models for like 6 years man

you pathetic fanboys will buy it regardless

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And no, a handful of people complaining about it on Yea Forums and /vp/ doesn't count to them as "broke".

sprites weren't broken

Gamefreak has never been known for their programming skills. Iwata (bless the man) used to pull the load for them but since he isn't here anymore they give us this shit instead. And people will still eat the game up.

get your eyes checked ASAP

>I haven't bought a single Pokémon game after this shit.
>I preordered the very next one
???

He's right though, I can't imagine playing it on an actual Switch with how fucking miserable it looks.

left tree cannot be compared at all to right tree, I don't know much about the BoTW filter but the right tree definitely looks worse and not the same as BoTW's

they can both look like ass without being on the same level of ass

FPBP. If you fucks want GF to improve quit enabling them.

Get your eyes check with him

Good thing you can change it on PC.

>retard who doesn't even play the game talking shit
every time

Like shit of course.

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It looks like garbage retard

Here's your new Pokémon, bro. It will be 20 gen 2 Pokémon + tip.

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does /vp/ have positive thoughts on this game compared to Yea Forums?

What is wrong with its hands

They were never capable. They had to redraw all their pokemon red and green sprites because it was too shitty. Iwata had to optimize gold and silver so it could fit on the cart. Red and blue were riddled with Bugs. Literally no other game let you fight a glitch like MissingNo. Because its retardedly incompetant. One of the gamefreak employees is literally such a far lazy piece of shit that eats everything including moldy food that they based Snorlax on him.

That is NOT nice water.

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ahahaha you're funny user

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GF had genius sonority helping them since XY, also they hired ton of people from them, which why they barely do anything but some shitty eshop games.

The issue lies on gamefreak being a bunch of incompetent fucks.

They still outsource 3d models don't they?

This would be a valid argumemt for somebody who actually has a modicum of talent like bungie, or soocerguy, but gamefreak physically couldn't handle any other ip

Yes and no. Lots are reasonably pissed and unsatisfied, but there's been push back from GF apologist. Whether it's genuine defense or the insatiable desire to be contrarian, no idea.

I'm sure that genius sonority did the models.

But holy fucking shit, they have no excuse to not use them. Look at this shit.

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that toy could never handle it get a pc retard if you want the game it look good

Futureproofing the models is actually the only smart thing that gamefreak has done in the last ten years, which leads me to believe it wasn't done by gamefreak at all.

There is low poly models and complete set of walking animations compatible with both sets of model.

So, yeah probably GF never exactly touched the models themselves. Also low poly models are different from the ones used ingame for world.

Apparently they are not lazy, just incredibly incompetent. Does anyone have that image explaining how pokemon has something like 40 instances of the exact same character, which takes up retarded amount of space and processing power?

They aren't lazy, they are hacks. Its been known since Gold/Silver that they can't actually code to save their lives. They could barely fit Johto onto the GBC cart without Satoru Iwata's help

>simple contrast filter
>that toy couild never handle it

>tfw Gamefreak has made about 5 years worth of progress since the GBC games in 2 decades

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Why doesn't TPCI just hire competent people? They've got the money.

GF have like 1/3 of pokemon.

>sit on your asses
>don't improve on a single thing
>in fact, take features away for no reason
>sell millions

>Pokefags are NOW wisening up the GF and finally see them as hacks
jesus where have you guys been since X/Y?

Alot old games would store sprites off camera for quick loading. I don't think anyone got at gamefreak memo this is no longer an efficient means of allocating or saving resources.

Why would they spend money on hiring better programmers and code monkeys when they can use the same hacks and produce a game 10 years behind in technology and make billions in profit?
Pokemon would need to see a loss before Nintendo and the Pokemon Company would jointly apply pressure on GameFreak.

I'm sure he is talking about npcs have duplicate models for every scene they pop instead of having a single model or two with a cutscene head.

tl;dr 1000 lillies.

>left
Copy pasted, not even rotated
>right
Unique tree models

Pokebros win this round.

/vp/ is furious aside from some shills/boot lickers and Japan is even angrier.

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that is seriously how shit it actually is, hardware limitations out the ass.
does anyone actually think that low saturation or green looks good?

ninteniggers need not apply..

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I van safely say this game looks worse than Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, released in 2001 for the Sony PlayStation 2.

This is a wii game.

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Also Quake III Arena (1999), Halo: Combat Evolved (2001) and Silent Hill 2 (2001)

I haven't done much programming but I know you can set global variables that you can recall at anytime. Not just a call to place this asset but actually 1000 different models of the same charcter? She wears what three maybe four different outfits the whole game so three models makes sense, .

>graphics aren't everything
>we want gameplay
>holy shit why does this game look so bad

Pokefags will eat literal shit as long as it has the Pokemon branding. This time Gamefreak has somehow found a way to put something worse then shit on their plate, so even the most diehard fans are being more or less forced to see the truth through their fanboy goggles.

Why do all Japs have such fucked up teeth? The stereotypes should be targeted at them, not the British. It's the same for the asian girls in porn.

No, npcs have a dupe model for every scene and map.

So one for game intro, then other for kukui lab, then other for route tutorial....

>gameplay getting worse with gym trials and 30 minute tutorials
>graphics getting worse with the peak at B&W2

I feel like NIntendo should do something about GF before they completely devalue the franchise with their incompetence. Even if its extremely scummy, I think Nintendo should refuse to allow Pokemon games to be made until they agree to allow Nintendo or another dev to co-develop the games from now on. GF only makes money from the games, but Nintendo is profiting from the franchise as a whole. Even if a new Pokemon game isn't made in the next 10 years they'll still be making billions from the merchandising. Meanwhile GF would be on the path to bankruptcy since all their non-Pokemon games are flops.

This gonna sound racist but rice gets stuck in your teeth easily so you don't floss enough.

They see crocked teeth as something cute or admirable, also they don't trust dentists at all.

It's more cultural than anything.

>playing as linkle
tranny detected

Except the Intellectual Property for Pokemon is jointly held by Nintendo, Game Freak, and Creatures. So Nintendo can't, if they tried they'd probably end up losing their portion of the copyright on the franchise.

Outcast from 1999 is on par with new pokemon.

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Those trees are in the exact same position for a reason, it's a puzzle where you need to make sure every tree has the same amount of apples on the exact same spots to get a korok seed.

Anyone have the image mentioned here? Sounds pretty interesting

Huh so that was what was so off about it, I liked Skyward Sword use of muted colors better, this game could have looked more like this it's not like it changes the art style either.

They can't just pull away the ip from gamefreak because gamefreak also owns a portion of IP.

Even if they try buy from them, they are very likely to tell nintendo to fuck off.

Jesus fuck, bring back sprites already.

Outcast is still more technologically advanced because of the voxel-based engine.

>hurr durr just bring sprite back guise, it going solve all the issues with game.

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>Fags complain about it not being on Switch
>It comes to Switch but Game Freak puts zero effort in so it is the same as on 3DS but more expensive
Told you fags

isn't game freak known for having the worst coders and artist?

GET YOUR FUCKING EYES CHECK, RETARD

since nintendo went with that tegrax1 instead of x2 im never buying the current model switch

Not going to deny it.

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Soul Silver was the last Pokemon game I got my money's worth out of.

Most other countries that aren't the US typically have worse looking teeth. But that doesn't mean the US has the healthiest teeth, just that ours are white and straight.
It's just a culture thing for the US, bad teeth here are viewed as a huge negative where other countries crooked teeth are considered cute or not as big of a deal.

Your TV settings.
Jesus.

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That's the overcast filter, game looks great when the skies are clear but it's overcast half of the time sadly

If pokefags had standards, pokemon wouldnt be lazy

This is an open world chinese rpg from a company using unity without and prior experience with the engine.

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Sword Shield looks like shit, but emulators shots with texture packs should never be used as a comparison point.

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Red/blue is a technological marvel for game boy

In fairness to GF, BotW was not designed with the Switch’s portable mode in mind, it was designed to be played on a TV. Meanwhile Pokemon is designed to be played in portable mode, and being as intensive as the hardware can theoretically handle is gonna beat the bejesus out of the battery.

Obligatory wingull webm coming through

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thats a bad screen cause the UI isn't crisp

I want the switch to die so we can get a normal handheld again.

Already know some people not picking it up due to the info we've got. Still it's sad since I know it'll sell but hopefully it'll sell poorly for a Pokemon game. Fucking GF needs to be slapped.

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This one?

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Okay fuck pokemon, I'm not buying this shit.

What the fuck are those red beams?

youtu.be/nw-46cZ0Utk
this is what they managed with their next game
also a new engine that they have no experience using but this time UE4

That's just how the 480p Wii looks on your HDTV, nothing more, nothing less. I don't see your point.

Now see that’s just shit.

I don’t know how Wingull works but if the gag is that it can’t flap its wings and it flies like an airplane, they could at least animate banking into turns.

This
Nintendies have no self respect

I never got into battling outside of casual shit, so I never went full autism, but I genuinely liked some of the Mega designs.

>Red/blue is a technological marvel for game boy

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>All those years of people anticipating the day Pokémon finally gets a mainline home console release
>They get this
It'd be funny if it weren't so sad

the divine beasts

Is this a bug or did someone really make this and think it was okay to show off?

nintendolife.com/news/2019/05/game_freak_is_trying_to_create_something_more_exciting_than_pokemon

Reminder that their "A Team" is working on a different project and this Pokemon is literally a "B Team" game.

When is Gamefreak going to pull a Bungie and just leave Nintendo with the Pokemon franchise so they can work on something they actually want to do?

To be fair wingull actually flies like that.

But putting them like 30 centimeters off the ground and not tweaking the animation is the lazy part.

Have you seen what Sky Battle did to any pokemon that can fly? It's not pretty. It seems GF just took Wingull's model, and was too lazy to animate it in any other way aside from the "standard" animation cycle.

not him but what connection between linkle and tranny?
personally i want to give fuck to linkle

>Lillies per area
The thing about this is, it could very well reduce load times or improve stability to not have to chase pointers down to the source file. Yes, it “wastes space”, but what the fuck else was that space on the cartridge going to be used for? It’s not like GF gets a bonus for leaving the cart half empty.

It’s like when people bitch about all the space wasted by uncompressed audio in console games; it’s pulling it from a Blu Ray disc, the thing has space to spare. What it doesn’t have is the memory or processing power to spare decoding compressed audio before the game wants to use it.

It’s not a PC title, “wasted space” is fucking irrelevant if it improves performance even a little bit.

please understand, tree textures are hard to perfect

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>Sky Battle
Oh sweet Jesus the pain of seeing what happened to Xatu’s design.

Even if you halve that (since GF has their other project), that's still 70 people working on pokemon. How incompetent can these people be?

youtu.be/yS86pa6BdWs?t=215

"Chasing pointers down to the source file" shouldn't be that bad, though. Performance wise, that is.

Battle revolution reuse stadium models tho.

*ahem*
FUCK GAMERS

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simpsons lookin ass

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Gale of darkness was the last good pokemon game.

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this

pokemon fans and Yea Forums are cucks so they will buy the game regardless.

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Gale of darkness was also developed by Genius Sonority.

>being THIS retarded

Eh, it depends on how the engine is built and how the data is stored. Take the other example from there, which is the constant decrypting of the Pokemon struct; if all data files exist in encrypted batches (which is how many middleware encryption solutions work, like CriPak and such) then loading an assortment of character models would mean decrypting potentially a couple dozen of these to get all the models needed, instead of decrypting the single file associated with an area one time and loading all the assets needed.

I’m not saying GF necessarily structured the game this way, but it’s at least plausible.

You're right, I can't believe Game Freak couldn't even manage N64 level graphics on the Game Boy

The sad truth that made pokemon shit over the years

The pokemon games developed on the n64 weren't even developed by gamefreak either.

Game freak has ruined pokemon.

Just give this shit back to Genius Sonority, jesus christ. They're a lifetime more competent.
Did they disband or something? They made some great games.

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>Iwata didn't have access to pokemon battle code for stadium.
>Do it from scratch on top of fixing all the bugs from gen 1.
>Come gen 2.
>main games still have ton of leftover glitches on battle routines.

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No competition.

Reminder that this bastard was added in at the last moment, and they didn't even bother to test him before they shipped Red and Green.

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They really don't, I thought this too but when I went to visit everyone just had normal teeth.
I saw dentist offices everywhere too, even in the countryside I don't know why pictures online or famous Japs always have fucked up teeth it's weird

You realize they have to model and animate like 800+ Pokemon, right? Give them a fucking break, they're just trees.

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>800+ Pokemon
hahaha
hehehe
HAHAHA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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N intendronessssssss

Why didn't they model the first 151 in Let's Go and animate them all properly and just port all that data to this new one?
I mean it's not much but at least it's something, Lets Go looks miles better than this piece of shit

>Animate 800+ pokemon.

Someone post that double kick webm. Also walking animations was done way back on x/y you retard.

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Creatures Inc. makes the models.

Heh.
Mario Sunshine had better looking water.

Just because you don't have competition doesnt mean you shouldnt strive to do better. Mario deosn't really have any competition in terms of platformers but the games are still developed with a great level of polish.

>You realize they have to model and animate like 800+ Pokemon, right?
>He doesn't know

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>he doesn't know

>800+ pokemon
Someone tell him.

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Bear in mind these graphically impressive games drain battery life like crazy. Since meeting others is an important part of pokemon, I could see why they would want to keep these graphics weak.

Then again, they could have went for an artstyle which hides it better.

legpee has been using the same models and animations GF has had since Black and White.

Let's Go's only difference from upscaled 3DS games is texture wise.

The complaints about Mt. Coronet being too hard and the relative failure of BW crushed all the soul out Gamefreak.

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this game actually looks like PS2 game, maybe even closer to an N64 game

>Already know some people not picking it up due to the info we've go
Yeah, they say that but I guarantee you they'll be picking it up.

>You realize they have to model and animate like 800+ Pokemon, right?

900+*

More than 1000 if you count alternate forms and gender differences. That would be impressive to do.... If they didn't had done and animated everything on fucking 3ds.

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Because they are one of the most untalented developers out there, this has been apparent for quite a while.

It should be before Ruby and Sapphire and after Ruby and Sapphire
Man that game was dog shit, can't believe the zoomers who shitpost here think it's good

Gay Freak is a company full of hacks and lazy shitters that only do the bare minimum to create a new pokemon game and every retard still buys it.

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>Black and White
X and Y. Gen 5 was still sprites.

user....

I won’t be picking it up. It will be the first generation I’ve skipped since Gen III.

It's a shame, because they were at least trying different things and had over 150 all new pokemon to get people to experiment.

You don't even need to mod Xenoblade to make it look that good. It already has the texture resolution IN the game, it's the Wii that just can't display it.

Wtf i can't believe a company has to do work

>Nintendo can't catch up to 17 years ago

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Pokedex 3D/Pro was a Gen 5 game that came out before XY and included all the Pokemon with the models and animations they've been using ever since.

Saying they've only been reusing these models and animations since 2013 gives them more credit than the reality that they've had them since 2011.

Those models and animations were already done, only needed new texture and some of them needed some extra tweaks

And SW/SH reuses 3DS models, your point?

As I recall it didn’t come out until way into Gen 5, i.e. after work on Gen 6 had already started. They clearly didn’t design the models for that app, they were designing them for Gen 6 and tossed them into the app for some quick dosh.

>Gamefreak's game will probably be less impressive at the end of the day than the Pokemon Minecraft mod
LOL
reforged.gg/

To be frank, not only are GameFreak lazy bastards, but people are underestimating this: this is the first time they've done a "large open space", and environment-wise the Wild Area easily holds the worst graphical problems of the entire product. I wouldn't say route footage is polished, but it's obvious that they're either cutting corners or have no idea what they're doing with the hardware and just cheaping out for this large space. If the entire game was Wild Area instead of routes, then yeah, it'd be super pronounced of a problem, because the fixed camera of everything else would hide these issues usually.

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>Colosseum
I want graphics like those for the next Golden Sun if it ever happens

I don’t know about all that but I am 100% certain that fan-hacks will add the entire national dex back almost immediately, proving once and for all how utterly and completely incompetent GameFreak is.

don't be delusional, unmodded BoTW looks ugly as sin. Everything looks so watered down and ugly, I can't believe that there are people on here that actually find that acceptable. Just emulate it and your opinion will take a complete 180.

Brainlets BTFO

That's not something you brag about with regards to 3d games, famicom.

Obviously they didn't make the models solely for the app, but it came out with all these models they've been reusing even before BW2 even came out, definitively putting it in the timeframe of Gen 5.

There's just no reason to give them the credit of XY's release of 2013 compared to saying they've barely needed to touch these models and animations in 8 whole years

This. But there will literally be hell if they release a 3rd or 'ultra' installment of S/S that has all the Pokemon.

>2013
user, Pokedex 3D Pro released mid-December 2012. Basically, 2013.

Problem is, even if those who get mad over that stuff drop the game, another 5 to 10 million buy it. So there is almost no way either to buy or not buy, we are fucked.

I still don't know what those retards were doing on 5 years of development time.

To compare, Xenoblade x had nearly same amount of dev time and have 10 times more content than usual pokemon game.

There won't be.
The new policy going forward is that no Core Pokemon Title will ever again have all Pokemon available.
However, do expect some shitflinging to commence when GO one day has more Pokemon than a Core Pokemon Title released after GO, LGPE need not apply.

There won’t be. They’ve already said as much. There will never again, according to Masuda, be a Pokemon game featuring all the Pokemon. The National Dex no longer exists. Not just for Sword and Shield, but for the follow-up title of Gen 8, for the inevitable Gen 8 remake of D/P/Pt, for Gen 9’s mainline titles, the Gen 9 follow-up title, Gen 9’s inevitable remake of Unova, etc etc.

They’re done. No more National Dex EVER. Enjoy your recycled Kanto mons and Smash-tier rosterfaggotry over which 100 of the remaining 1,000 “make it in” every gen.

Prease undastandu.

wow, now I won't buy pokemon sword/shield

Do you think a mainline Pokemon title has to sell literally fewer than 70 copies for GameFreak to get the message that they fucked up?

If the titles move less than 10m units combined, they will be abject failures. For the first mainline titles on a console EVER to be the worst-selling mainline titles would send the message just fine.

I'm sure the switch could run that, dumbo.

To be fair I didn't know about those puzzles until until I saw some one else do it long after I beat the game and did all shrines

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have another (You)

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And it's attitudes like this that companies keep ignoring complaints. Just because it was said it wasn't going to happen, doesn't mean things won't change.

>Pokemon Sword/Shield has no concept of occlusion or scene batch rendering
>Everything is rendered at all times, including everything behind the camera

apparently their team is filled with absolute retards and their software development cycle is abysmal. Everything is coded to hell and assets are accidentally done multiple times.

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If you motherfuckers actually had some taste we would not be having this problem. It's like standards aren't even fucking THERE for these people

GameFreak only listens to sales.
If Sword and Shield sells badly, they'll incorrectly blame it on people not liking the lineup and new Pokemon.
Thus, the next games will be set in Kanto yet again, featuring the Original 151, a new set of starters and a new trio of box legends with no new additions.
Japanese Businessmen don't ever want to come clean and admit they've made a shamefur dispray, that's what makes them have to commit sudoku. They'll shift the blame onto something completely unrelated to the major issue at hand, oftentimes making it even worse.

blame the japs, they don't give a damn what people outside japan think. Personally I haven't bought a pokemon game since gen3 because it was such a disappointment after gen2

archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/36988869/#36990662

This. Honestly if you are over 14 and still obsessing with these games then you're pretty much fucked. These games are aimed at children, your inability to get past nostalgia and let your tastes mature with age is the only reason you still play these games but the devs will never cater to you, because you aren't their target audience and they don't care. Parents of kids ages 8-12 will buy millions of copies for their children.

We already know, for a fact, all 151 original Pokemon are in S/S. There can't be anyone who'd think otherwise.

They can't pull the KANTOOOOO card forever. LGBT was entirely frontloaded and disappeared from charts which is unusual for a pokemon game.

i know this is bait but god damn
imagine actually believing this

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how does pokemon look worse than zelda, they run on the same hardware.

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>If Sword and Shield sells badly, they'll incorrectly blame it on people not liking the lineup and new Pokemon.
And on Wild Area.
And on the game being on a console instead of a handheld.

Surely the things people are complaining loudly about can’t be the things people are upset about!

>play S/M
>really enjoyed X/Y
>can't make 3 steps without a cutscene
>drop it after 4 hours as the game becomes unbearable

What makes you think Sword and Shield wee developed in 5 years? It was probably in development for 2.

>And on the game being on a console instead of a handheld.

And who they going blame? Nintendo? Because pretty much everyone there or working as second party have some kind of experience with console.

We need another Iwata to save Game Freak, don't we?

It looks that bad because you keep buying it even though it looks bad.

Nintendo's probably tried reaching out to GameFreak on multiple occasions only to be declined because of the latter's newfound Nippon Pride and reputation as "the guys who make the games of the biggest multimedia franchise on earth."
If they were to receive help, that would make them look weak, thus hurting their pride, and that in turn would cause Nintendo's stocks to drop since they're the closest thing shareholders have to trying to get their dicks into Pokemon's hole.

It was before pokemon company so Nintendo had eyes on them.

Now everything is handled by pokemon company except game international distribution.

Gamefreak: shut up and let us be lazy and greedy.

This. Pokemon is Nintendo's most blatant lazy cash cow.

I should really get Cemu. The sequel to BOTW has me wanting to play it again at the best quality. And mods like Zelda or Linkle look neat. I wouldn't get rid of unbreakable items entirely, maybe just bump up the uses a fair amount until they do. But definitely make the Master Sword infinite. Do a run where I dont upgrade armor or equipment slot on Master Mode.

this is how people rationalize when they actually want something. if you want the game then fine, buy it. if you don't like what they've done then just don't pick it up. these companies have tricked the consumer into a defeatist mentality and by continuing to support them with money you're only enabling that behavior.

If only our people were as white and straight as our teeth we wouldn't be in this mess

Based. If let's go had actually failed in sales then maybe gamefreak would have actually put effort into gen 8.

Obviously making the game is really hard, so I hope people don't get high expectations

Nothing. Newfags just like buzzwords.

Didn't this game brick Wiis because it caused absurd overheating or something?

Fuck Game Freak.

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They don't. We've seen Wingull fly like a normal bird for the last 16 years. This "Wingull can't bend its wings" meme literally only started after the E3 presentation.

No, it never did, and game actually ran well considering everything.

You are confusing with Witch and hundred knights which isn't even on Wii and is done by NIS.

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>what the fuck else was that space on the cartridge going to be used for?
You're forgetting digitalfags.

>b-but they are just gliding!

>Pokemon is literally a "B Team" game
Don't let the name fool you. Game Freak's B team made HGSS and B2W2 while their A team made XY.

I'll admit it. I'm literally seething right now.

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Game Freak just needs to be in charge of back end shit and let Nintendo get someone better at visuals to do the graphics. I'm sure MonolithSoft would do it.

The animations are there but fucked. I'm not defending either, it needs a new set.

The models for returning Pokemon in Sword/Shield are the same future-proofed ones from X/Y. Game Freak has no excuse to cut content from the latest Pokemon games appearing on Nintendo's most powerful system.

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Haha! Gamers gonna freak!

I don’t understand, do you people think there was ever a good Pokémon game? Are you children? I can not fathom how clicking one of four options from a menu and then watching the other sprite fall off screen constitutes “gameplay”. And then of course you spend eighteen hours doing that some more because 90% of the game is grinding so your pokémon is a high enough level to absolutely thrash your opponent. And don’t pretend the pokémon collection aspect is fun because you could get a much more engaging(and free) version of that experience by going outside and looking at birds.

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And Zelda still looks like dogshit

Genius Sonority

Reminder that if one of the new Pokemon is similar to an old one, said old one is getting snapped
>corviknight is similar to skarmory, so it won't be in
>drednaw is similar to tirtouga or binacle, so they won't be in
>eldegoss is similar to whimsicott so it won't be in
Only exception is Kantomons because you just know they'll put all 151 in

They already work on games, gamefreak even hired some people there.

The issue is Gamefreak.

Fuck Masuda
Bring back Unno

Mipha is for hug not fug, fish-molester.

It doesn't fly like a normal bird

Ruby
>Wingull has the habit of carrying prey and valuables in its beak and hiding them in all sorts of locations. This Pokémon rides the winds and flies as if it were skating across the sky.
Sapphire
>Wingull rides updrafts rising from the sea by extending its long and narrow wings to glide. This Pokémon's long beak is useful for catching prey.
Emerald
>It makes its nest on a sheer cliff at the edge of the sea. It has trouble keeping its wings flapping in flight. Instead, it soars on updrafts.
FireRed
>It rides upon ocean winds as if it were a glider. In the winter, it hides food around its nest.

>pokedex as a reference
Can't wait to see a Ponyta leap over 300 metres into the air when you find it in the wild

So there's a constant updraft under wingull keeping it completely still?

The shareholders know it will sell millions regardless of effort. There was a time when ambitious devs in GameFreak and The Pokemon Company would have loved to put in the extra effort, but meeting shareholder deadlines took priority and eventually the will to improve faded away.

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Here's the thing: canonically sure they can just glide in the air, but then they just turn on a dime like a generic JRPG NPC. That's corner-cutting.

Are you sure you aren't confusing Witch and the hundred knight with Disgaea D2? Or did the former also cause overheating?

BUT KANTOOOOOOOOOOO

Both games actually fried consoles.

NISA is that incompetent.

>Battle revolution reuse stadium models tho.
>the team of 22 people still had to collectively make gens 3-4 from scratch (242 new pokemon)
>looks great for a wii game

compared to
>SwSh has a team of 143 people, reuses assets for every pokemon except for the ~40 they'll add to this generation
>looks like an N64 game

Hey, if fucking Bunnelby & Diggersby of all things can get in despite one of the starters being a rabbit, anything is possible.

Battle Revolution barely have content. I'm not defending GF either but isn't exactly a fair comparison.

Pokepark from 10 years ago has more soul than SwSh.

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>looks like an N64 game
Please. N64 still had soul.

There are no "updrafts" a foot off the fucking ground.

Imagine if NISA did the localization for Gamefreak's games, how glorious the mayhem would get.

Nintendo would immediately roast their ass asap. Pokemon have some game breaking glitches but nothing on that tier.

Thankfully so. In any case, GF should up their game already. Nobody is buying their excuses for not including already finished models in the game.

I heard of at least two cases of disc drives dying after playing Xenoblade 1, might be what you're thinking of.

it looks a bit better than a N64 game in fairness, especially if you look at the character models

i think it would be more accurate to say SwSh looks like a gamecube game, though probably a low-end one with poor artistic direction

>looks like a N64 game
That's a stretch. At least the N64 animated the attacks
youtube.com/watch?v=Vpd47lTOjW0

I think if they just did their games with this aesthetic I'd buy and love every one of their games. But something about the move to 3D with X/Y made the games lose all their soul. It just doesn't feel good to play them, especially Gen 7. It just feels artificial or something. It's like they felt the need to transistion to 3D because they think kids will hate this artstyle and maybe their right, but in the process they also betrayed their long time fans. Of course, it'd be a little different if they were actually skilled at working with 3D, but they're not. Hacks shoulda just stuck to 2D, at least its harder to fuck up.

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Yup just look at Let's Go. They made a pokemon game that was stripped down and streamlined that got a pretty good amount of backlash from fans. It still sold over 10 million copies. Sword and Shield are going to end up the same way. People are already angry over the lack of national dex but it's not going to matter the game is going to still sell millions.

It could also be that Nintendo somewhat "forced" them to do it, since what better way to advertise the "3D" aspect of 3DS than to have Pokemon be in full 3D?

This is the effect they're referencing.
videoblocks.com/video/couple-of-seagulls-gliding-on-the-sky-birds-game-24-second-7fjb2lg
Notice that they flap to gain height. And then remain still to guide. However, even when still, the changes in air causes them to make micro adjustments, fluttering their feathers, and bob up and down. They're not supposed to be robotically stiff.

3ds pokemon games don't even use 3d. Also overworld is 3d on DS games.

Nintendo don't meddle with pokemon since gen 2.

Botw honestly looks worse than skyward sword

>the animations
>the announcer
>the audience cheering
kore wa....soul overload?

I don't know what they were serving the voice actors at Nintendo during the N64 era, but whatever it was it gave them so much zeal. Both Pokemon Stadium and Star Fox 64 's scripts are delivered with such genuine ham that you are able to take it seriously no matter how silly it sounds.

S O U L

Didnt sell well in japan. did great in america cause switch has no games and americans have no standards.

i unironically miss it so much. give me back my soul nintendo

What the fuck Gen V is nearly 10 years old

Do you really guys don't know at this fucking point?

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this, consumers themselves set the bar
gamefreak knows exactly the levels of standards their manchildren consumerbase has
now eat your slop and quit complaining

I hate normalfags so fucking much, it really doesn't matter what we do, they don't care, they don't follow news, development, compare to earlier releases, it's fucked just drop the series.

Can anyone do a similar comparison but with Digimon World Re: Digitize for the PSP?

Don't you have an entire board to cry about your Nintendi game? Why post here too?

Have you played a single game from this generation? Even on consoles you can download games now

>Didnt sell well in japan.

Sold better in Japan than Flop-kai Watch 4 will though.

That series is dead.

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so buy a different product or vouch for anti-capitalism :)

Name another openworld rpg for game boy

This
If there’s no forcing function, there’s not going to be any change. The fact that they barely changed the actual gameplay in a meaningful, that they wasted dev time making new models for POKEMON BUT BIG. It’s not even laziness so much as The Pokemon Company being conservative fucks

>Pokemon
>Open world.

Just because the game is buggy enough to let you skip nearly everything don't mean that is open world.

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There's still 4 months left, they'll fix it.

>pokemon black and white will get remakes next gen

oh god

BOTW’s trees had some functionality and they at least looked good up close and from a distance.
SwSh’s trees look shit at every distance

Goddammit I am fucking baffled at how incompetent GF actually is. This is fucking ridiculous. The Genius Sonority games were made to run on toasters (GC,Wii) as well

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Theres a lot of pokemons to design and animate
prease understand

Don't worry, the new pokemon killer is already being developed as we speak.

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Nailed it.
They can shit on a plate, call it Shittles, and people will eat it up.

Why do you lie to yourself? Do you like being in pain?

>he thinks people want gameplay and progress
see

>That fucking Golem mega kick

LOL You're serious?? No way, burn the whole thing down. Start from scratch. Liquidate Gamefreak, fire Mastuda and publicly shame him

>it's a puzzle where you need to make sure every tree has the same amount of apples on the exact same spots to get a korok seed.
THOSE TREES WERE PUZZLES!?

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Yeah early copies

BOTW would be considered low poly by today's standards. The game just has a solid artstyle. The shape and color pallette create a pleasing image.

They won't, they're trying to distance themselves from it due to how it was least liked generation

Thank god. Keep away from my precious Unova.

>Keep away from my precious Unova
Similar sentiment but with sinnoh. I don't trust post gen 5 game freak at all.

I don't know anything about Pokemon games but isn't the extremely large number of pokemon needed to be present in every single game really sucking up all the resources?

Game is no means perfect, but I swear to fucking god there is something that make everyone extremely nitpicker or assblasted.

And ton of assets are high poly, stop with this stupid shit.

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They going to go full retard and use DP Sinnoh instead of Platinum Simnoh

I won't either and I didn't buy S/M or USUM. I borrowed my cousin's copy and couldn't play more than 10 minutes after the motismadex started being a cringelord

No. If they can't handle it, they should bring in another team to help so they can learn and grow. Besides, I think another company handles the models. GF isn't having to deal with juggling the pokemon and the making the game.

you never questioned anything repeated? Wow

Dude, you can count the polygons in the image I was replying to. They're economical with polygons. But it's not a high count by any means.

Stop it user.

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thats upscaled. on actual hardware that shit is way more jaggy and blurry

GameFreak are notoriously bad at optimization, hence why they can only afford N64 trees

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GF are even worse than Bethesda.

Sun and Moon were garbage. Every 3D Pokemon so far has been shit with no exceptions. Heart Gold and Soul Silver were the last good ones. Some say Black & White but those were soulless as fuck.

They know fags like you will defend them

Honestly don't understand why they don't let Nintendo off-load the back-end work to a competent studio while they can just do design and gameplay.
Oh right, because Nintendo would realize that they could be completely replaced by better studios who could actually make good pokemon games.

Those are so good. My favorites are Chansey, Raichu, and Kangaskhan.

IT'S A BILLION FUCKING DOLLAR FRANCHISE
BILLION. DOLLAR. FRANCHISE.
THEY HAVE NO FUCKING EXCUSE TO NOT HIRE AT LEAST 1 ANIMATOR FOR 3 POKEMON AND THEY HAVE Y E A R S TO DO THIS SHIT
STOP GIVING THEM EXCUSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE FUCKING NONE
POKEMON IS ONE OF IF NOT THE BIGGEST MEDIA FRANCHISE THERE IS RIGHT NOW AND THEY ARE BEING THE LAZIEST FUCKS POSSIBLE AND THEY KNOW IT.
YEAH THERE ARE 900+ POKEMON BUT YOU HAVE LITERALLY INFINITE MONEY AND TIME TO GIVE THEM AT LEAST 3-4 ANIMATIONS, SO WHY DON'T YOU? IT'S NOT LIKE SKELETONS AND POKEMON WITH SIMILAR BODIES DON'T EXIST. A SINGLE SKELETON COULD BE REUSED FOR 20-30 POKEMON AND NO ONE WOULD BAT AN EYE AND YET THESE FUCKING HACKS DON'T EVEN BOTHER.
ZERO EXCUSES
IF THIS WAS AN INDIE PROJECT OR A SMALLER STUDIO, IT WOULD BE EXCUSABLE EXCEPT GAMEFREAK AND NINTENDO ARE FUCKING MASSIVE
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I HATE GAMEFREAK SO FUCKING MUCH EVERY FUCKING YEAR ANOTHER DISSAPOINTMENT. I HAVEN'T FINISHED A POKEMON GAME SINCE XY AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO MAKE A GOOD GAME
>b-but it's for kids!!
I'M GOING TO MAKE YOUR KID EAT SHIT AND TELL YOU THAT IT'S FINE BECAUSE "it's for kids lmao"
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>b-but who cares about a bunch of smelly neckbeards??!!?!!?
IF YOU ARE MAKING A VIDEOGAME AND YOUR GOAL IS SELLING IT, THEN YOU SHOULD AT LEAST TRY TO APPEAL TO THE CONSUMER BASE YOU HAVE, YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
>b-but it'll sell!!!1!!!
YES IT WILL.
BECAUSE.
YOU.
ARE.
FUCKING.
RETARDED.

FUCK ALL OF YOU AND FUCK THIS FUCKING FRANCHISE.

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>Yea Forums complains about the lack of SOUL
>GF hear them and litteraly put what Yea Forums claims is SOUL right there
>Yea Forums complains anyways
The irony

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>tfw only bought 2 pokemon mainline games in the past 12 years
I only bought ORAS and BW.
I only regret buying one of them.

Why do they both have that fuckawful fog effect?

if you want MUH GRAFIX its time to grow up from consoles.

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You know Game Freak is actually inspiring in a way. No matter how bad I think I am at least I can take relief in the fact I'm not as incompetent as all the fuckups at Game Freak. They're very much like Antony Burch in that regard.

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You seem mad. May I recommend Digimon instead? Or literally any other game series?

I wish more and more people blew it up in their faces just how lazy and bad they are at making games now. Then they would have no choice but to improve. I do think this is the first game I'm going to skip until the improved version releases at least. It would be fucking amazing if they went back to sprites. Their transfer to 3D is astronomically worse than Sonic's. It's just fucking upsetting because I love Pokemon themselves, but not the recent games.

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>because Nintendo would realize that they could be completely replaced by better studios
Game Freak owns part of the rights to Pokémon. Nintendo can't replace them without getting into some big legal shit.

its also made worse when screenshots are taken in limited 16-235 and displayed on 0-255 rgb (or when you play on a tv that is in full rgb with console set to limited)

Wonder how much money it would be to buy the rest of the rights to it.
It's weird Nintendo weren't on top of this from the beginning. GF are going to continually fuck them out of money and PR

>$90B media franchise

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how did Pokemon go from a dream of people who wanted to catch little critters and watch them fight to a brand Nintendo can slap on whatever shit they want to sell millions regardless of quality?

>GF are going to continually fuck them out of money
The opposite actually. They make nintendo tens of millions every year.

I seriously think Gamefreak have no actual professional animators, and their team have just been bullshitting for years with learning from youtube and other places.

Pokemon is one of the most lucrative media franchises in the world so...probably a metric fuck ton of money to buy them out. I don't think Nintendo could afford it or they would have already done it.

someone post the /vp/ edit that looks ten times better

Don't forget the Wave Race 64 announcer.

youtube.com/watch?v=PsYv6uEcd1Q

Why do they love removing features people love? "It doesn't fit the region" is a shit excuse

That's not real. is it?

The linkle mod has a tutorial somewhere where you can learn how to do it. You'll need a hacked switch tho

>Those wingull animations on the gamepay demo
it's like they had wooden planks for wings.

Quick! Game Freak comes to you for ideas that they can put into Sword and Shield to make it more enjoyable! What do you say?!

They could probably afford it, but it definitely wouldn't be worth it. Pokémon made by Nintendo in-house or by whatever studio they choose, would still sell as much as the games currently do. It might win back some sales from people who dropped the series because of Game Freak, but there would be just as many lost sales from purists who won't consider buying a non Game Freak game. And by far the biggest issue would be that Pokémon made by another studio wouldn't be a guaranteed 10/10. Nintendo isn't perfect themselves, and they've made plenty of sub-par games in their main franchises. It would lead to the same levels of disappointment that people felt after thinking that Disney was going to save Star Wars.

This can't be real.

So they can sell it back in a later game. They included following Pokémon in Let's Go for example because they knew it would boost sales for a game they weren't sure of.

this is so sad. sonic 06, widely known for being unfinished, has better looking animations. how tf do you have the most valuable ip in the world and then make nothing but shovelware? clown game for a clown console for a clown world

Call it open or dead or whatever, at least it looks like an adventure.

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Cyanide gas.

>Trainer Emotes and taunts in battle
>Bring back Ball Capsules
>Bring back Megas/Z-Moves, keep Dynamax but you can only use one gimmick in a battle
>Victory poses
>Following Pokemon.

An fmv? Wow.

>Gyrados swimming with a school magikarp
Thats adorable.

There's nothing you could do about it, you could convince every fag on Yea Forums to stop buying these games and it wouldn't put a dent in their sales. You'd have an easier time convincing sports fans to stop buying EA/2K games filled with microtransactions.

the more you love pokemon, the more you hate gamefreak

hard mode.

XC2 looks way better

>Bring back Megas/Z-Moves
Jesus christ no. Literally the only good thing about S&S.

>not just waiting for pokemon mace

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You wanna finally switch on over to Digimon man? World is a good starting point.

Difference is Burch isn't successful.

This is why I hate all popular games that flaunt their popularity. Whenever a fandom says that a game is good because it's loved by millions, it is instantly and irredeemably shit. A game should never need to flaunt sales.

what could have been Yea Forumsros...

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Reminder

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Wow

hmmm?

Pixels way too loud. Part of the gameboy Pokémon charm is its simplicity, it makes you meet it halfway and use your imagination

My eyes hurt.

This is what I expected from the new Pokemon game, not them locking out someone favorite pokemon, removing mega evolution or dynamax which is stupid.

The top is way too loud. Part of the gameboy Pokémon charm is its simplicity, it makes you meet it halfway and use your imagination

this...why should they bother?

A-team is working on "Town" and B-team is working on Pokemon.

Gamefreak knows Nintendo doesn't need them anymore (see all the Pokemon apps and other merchandising they're doing) and is trying to prepare for when they inevitably get booted out.

I think you're confusing visual noise (which there really isn't other than maybe the decorated floor being a bit much) with lighting.
The bottom looks like a beta rendering demo.

>All pokemon
>Get rid of dynamax, bring back megas (not Z-moves)
There, now it's acceptable.

I figured they would just copy Breath of the Wild, but Game Freak is truly amazing.

I wish it were as simple as

>Nintendo files a claim that GF are not holding up their end of the Pokemon deal and not holding up good standards
>Nintendo wins court case

But of course, law is fucking convoluted as hell and is just so much frustration.

>Hi bossu, can our team get more time and money for this project?
>No. We need it out by Christmas for our merchandise push. The game will sell millions anyway, so get it done.

So what company would you give the Pokémon franchise to?

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Monolith Soft to be honest.

>blindly praise game series for years
>company thanks you for defending them with a low effort piece of shovelware

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so you cant see how shit the lod is

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God damn. Imagine if that top picture is how battles actually were. Gamefreak you lazy fucking bastards.

Could be worse

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>a gimmick battle type featured in a single generaton, was barely used, and that never appeared again is the reason why every single flying pokemon never touches the ground
>some of them don't even get a flapping idle stance and just "soar" like a levitating loaf of bread with a fan in front of them

It still gets me.

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>Don't voice valid criticisms of a series that has too much money and too many employees for what we get in return
Low effort on your part, but it's appreciated.

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>rebuttal
There was no argument to begin with.

that's the most pathetic thing I've read in a while
the image you're replying to was posted because OP said "this sucks" without providing any reasons, not because it was a negative opinion
tl;dr kys

>intelligent debates or discourse
> on Yea Forums

nope, nice try user.

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>rebuttal to your argument
What argument?
"I don't like X" isn't worthy of any kind of effort apart from "OK"
Now if the guy in the comic elaborated and gave reasons it'd be a different story

Don’t forget it will also be shoehorned into SSB.

>Original comic literally just says "okay" at the end
You have to be a special kind of autistic to make it into that

> person who spazzed at this image missed the entire point of nobody wanting to hear their massive bitch whining but a right to their opinion

> proceeds to slather it in shit rabidly

this is beyond missing the point. this is actively trapping yourself in hatred in stupidity to no benefit.

>criticism bad
>blind corporate praise good

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Not that user but their argument is plain as day. They're saying companies who advertise how popular they are fall back on being lazy thanks to unbridled praise by their fanbase. Pokémon never shuts up about the gen 1 pokécraze of the 90s and constantly references it so I don't see how it's a bad argument at all.

>Think your opinions are always worth addressing so anyone ignoring your shit is being passive aggressive
Keep thinking people have to listen to your shit.

That's not what the original image implies at all but sure.

>how trees look like
I hate thanos snapping half the pokemon but fuck india and everyone from india especially you

there is a large difference between a negative valid argument and whining for 40 posts repeatedly being ignored until the point where you need to be validated with a response to shut it.

the comic is focused on the latter and the lack of awareness and need to mock it leads belief that the mocker is also it from reacting in a hostile manner to a comic pointing out how people whining about how they don't like a thing and bringing nothing of value to a discussion on it need to learn to be quiet.

inb4 the point is missed and you can't tell between negative valid argument and whining.

This. Look at companies like EA, Epic games, sony, etc. They all love to skirt on their games getting 90+ metacritics, and selling 10+ million copies. Would you trust any of them with actual game quality if that is their best foot forward?

Worse than lazy. They are incompetent

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the comic is clearly aimed at people who don't provide actual reasons. no need to get so upset and presume I like pokemon and didn't just cull the bullshit image from the main board.

>any argument I don't agree with is "bringing nothing of value" to the discussion

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I didn't even notice it until you pointed out now I can't unsee it

Sony will peel strips of your jealous Nintendogre green skin off with needle nose pliers.

>strawman
check and mate. good bye. don't forget you got upset enough to take time and effort to deface the comic then slap TUMBLR / REDDIT / MEMECENTER / 9GAG and literally everything you hate onto it in a childish mentality and even on the chance that you didn't you actually saved and then posted it further circulating it.

>how [x] looks like

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Odyssey was shit though

>we live in a timeline where the next Digimon game looks like it's going to blow the next Pokemon game out of the water

I love this timeline.

I'm 100% sure that comic was made because some lardass from tumblr saw someone shitting on their favorite OTP or something and got triggered.
I have no idea what the second half of your post means or why you assumed I'm mad.

>everything I don't like is strawman

Just digging that hole deeper.

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Don't tell me the filename is its name

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So what is the point?
That people should get defensive essays from impassioned fans when ever they say they dislike something?

This is a photoshopped Yokai from Yokai Watch, right?

Not even enhanced versions are good anymore.

I think the thing that pisses me the most is that the only thing people complaint about S&S is the fucking pokedex, the game has a shitton of troubles and people just let those slide. i swear pokemon fans deserve the rope
>think of the poor multimillionaire company this is just too much work for them

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OG Genius Sonority.

Kek. That's from the post I made the other day.

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