Stop right there user! It seems to me that you get mad every single time a gay character shows up in a video game and claim that they're being forced into it. I want you to describe a proper way to introduce gay characters by your standards that isn't forced or else your soul will be judged and sent to hell for this disingenuity!
Stop right there user! It seems to me that you get mad every single time a gay character shows up in a video game and...
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it's okay to have gay characters but just don't ever mention or show that they're gay
Take your clothes off,though, the hat stays on.
gays are cringe and don't belong in video games
It's not the fact that they're gay that is the problem. It's the fact that their gayness is shoved in everyone's face.
you see what I mean? here's an example
Fair enough. Just don't show or mention that characters are heterosexual either and we'll leave it at that. Honestly what place has sexuality in video games?
>Be Overwatch
>Have gay characters
>No gayness in the game
>Only appears in comics no one gives a shit about except tumblrfags
>People still think it's forced
What's the fucking point
>Only appears in comics
Have you played the game? There's references to their "past" relationships in the voice lines.
I don't get mad at gay characters in videogames because I only play good games
Shoved in everyone's face? I'm not aware of any flamboyant gays as of late, I'd like an example of this immediately.
This isn't an honest answer, the only result of such a thing is people accusing the developers of such a character as retconning, such as the Overwatch Example here.
All touhous are gay.
Maybe if they follow some gay shit like Buddhism
wrong
>flamboyant gay
Sure, here's one
>Be overwatch
>Have some E-sports drama surrounding Blizzard
>Say a character is gay within the first 24 hours that the drama showed up
>Say that characters are gay, autistic for no reason cause its just marketing
They show no respect towards gays, they treat it as a marketing demographic. While they treat all of us as such they treat the lgbtq community is such a pandering way its almost offensive. People never had a problem when GTA does this.
It's the same thing as forced jokes or forced memes. It's forced because they're doing it for social feedback or other ulterior motives. If it's not that then it's not forced. The reason this seems to happen all the time is because it does happen all the time because white male devs are social narrative cucks.
So when is it not that?
Wrong
It's not that when they literally don't do that shit. It's really simple.
>Pepe and Wojack is posted everywhere
>People get pissed off at it, call it normie and ridicule anyone who posts it
>LGBT stuff gets posted everywhere
>You are a bigot if you are sick and tired of seeing it all the time
It's normal to hate something that is posted over and over again especially if you dont care about it. Look at 5 nights, look at MLP as it got its own board, even people hate touhou cause they are starting to see it everywhere.
So how can you tell?
Are you trying to imply homosexuality is just a meme?
There are three ways to introduce a gay character in your video game (or in fact, in any piece of media, but for vidya you have a lot more freedom in how you flesh them out).
The first way is the background gay. The character just happens to be a disgusting homosexual. You can see it by the fact that there is another man in his house, by a few selected lines with who is hinted to be his significant other, or by the fact that he politely states he's not really interested in women during an NPC conversation.
Said character is usually just a 3rd-importance character which your player shouldn't be too worried about.
Usually those kinds of characters are clever easter eggs, but without proper development they can feel artificial. This is the main pitfall.
The second way is the audio log gay. The life and tribulations of your lad is narrated through audio logs or letters scattered across the game world, in which he subtly references his lover (among, of course, other things helpful to world-building). For emotional points, you can have the player deliver those logs to the lover in question.
A good example of that is the letters exchanged between the two rangers in Firewatch, a bad examples is in Borderlands 2 (a scientist being tortured ; he is never mentioned again).
The main pitfall here is how to subtly say your character is gay without being too gauche.
The third way is just to have a gay main character who is obviously gay, but also very important for your game and for the story. His love life is secondary to his role in the story, and your player should first develop some affection for the character (as a friend, or as a bro) before it is introduced that they're a fag.
Basically, the opposite of the first option : a gay main character with a lot of personality, including the fact that he likes men.
For an example, see that lesbian mechanic in Borderlands Pre-Sequel
Make them actual good characters. It's really not that hard, it's just that Western writers for some reason CANNOT write a good homosexual character. You can just tell they started writing with "okay we need a gay character" or at the end of a character's creation tacked on "oh they're gay by the way!".
Japan is better at it, just like they're better at writing for games in general anyway.
1% of the population. Needs an entire month dedicated to their degeneracy. Shoved into all media to harvest brownie points with the twitter generation.
You can tell when it's awkwardly contrived. Or by just not being an autist with no social sensibility.
I think he said that pepe and wojak are gay
Not him but you can tell because only the gay characters in the game have their sexualities confirmed. Every other character almost never has their sexuality mentioned.
name one japanese well written gay character
When their entire personality is just being gay and they have no goals or interesting personality traits otherwise
I can think of a few good-ish homosexual characters in recent-ish games.
That lesbian mechanic in Borderlands Pre-Sequel (she's helpful, cheerful, and just says at one point that she prefers ladies), or Steve Cortez in ME3 (besides the god-awful last two acts I enjoyed the game)
>I want you to describe a proper way to introduce gay characters by your standards that isn't forced or else your soul will be judged and sent to hell for this disingenuity!
Their homosexuality is relevant to their story or the game's story somehow but their homosexuality isn't their sole personality-defining characteristic.
Or alternatively, they're a good role model - they advocate for a monogamous relationship, they're strong and confident and resilient against emotional stress, and they work hard to fix what is under their control rather than demanding that society change on their behalf.
So basically when they're gay it's forced. Got it.
I'm glad you presented one, now if you have an example of a bad one, surely a good one must exist somewhere? Even I can think of one right now.
>so how can you tell
This isn't an honest response, people are well aware that a company has picked up on a growing social zeitgeist that strongly supports this new movement and want to be a part of it in order to gain a new market. But in doing so has insulted the current market due to several approaches going badly or being incredibly poor attempts.
It's no ones fault but you're own that you can't feel proud of yourself
Did you even read what I said? You can tell it's forced because the game only seems to care about a character's sexuality if they're gay, and doesn't give a shit otherwise. The developers want to make sure you know every gay character is gay so they shove it in your face.
There's no need to create gay characters (or of any other sexuality). Just make them cute and let the fans do whatever they want with them.
Your image is a great example of what I'm saying. Since ZUN lets fans take a lot of liberties with Touhou you can find a lot of hetero, lesbian, futa and even yaoi works of the characters, and since the official character descriptions are very vague there isn't a single headcanon established.
it's time to go back to tumblr
So they can't say or show they're gay. Got it.
Then it kinda begs the question how can one figure out their gayness if you can't show it, but guess that's not needed
didn't read the post, just wanted to say that I wanna fug shittyeiki
Pride comes before the fall.
Honesty has its rewards, though many may refuse to recognize what people here have to say, know that their words mean nothing so long as your conviction is true.
Only real answer in the thread. Everyone else can go home.
>Can't infer or pick up clues from subtle story telling, symbolism and needs everything told to their face
Americans
And now that I think about it, Soldier 76 would fit on both counts. Fine by me. Overwatch is a terrible game and S76 being gay doesn't really make it any worse or any better.
The Shields Stuns Heals meta, however, is gay as fuck.
>nhb
That one boy-yo from Catharine.
I think completes it nicely and more succinctly
>know that their words mean nothing so long as your conviction is true.
I know this every time someone tells me "Have sex". I am loyal to my waifu. 3dpd will not sway me.
>touhou+weeb roleplaying
Go back to your containment board
Just like that touhou character you were posting you like to think you are better then everyone else cause you are so solid in your bias beliefs refusing to see the point of view others have. No matter. Go live in your own world.
I hesitate to call Tracer a "good" gay character mostly because Overwatch is pandering garbage, but she's not a bad gay character. There's way more to her character than just her gayness, which is more than I can say for most gay characters in media.
To conflate arrogance with pride is a sin.
That's bringing up their sexuality though. Next
>alien
god I want the reaper to just get me already
Live in your own world.
Play in ours.
- Playstation
Imposter, the real Yama knows homosexuality is a sin
My example was Arcade Gannon, it's not your fault that you're limited as far as your exposure to video games goes.
Thats fucking wrong though, overwatch has shit characters and are made to pander to a certain group of people cause marketing. And not just gays either, all kinds of retards are targeted.
You just like to get angry and think your right. Oh no the only way to say that somebody is gay is if they shove it in your face and the fact that every piece of media needs gay representation now even if it doesn't make sense setting wise.
>They show no respect towards gays, they treat it as a marketing demographic.
I know this is a classic case of whataboutism, but gays treat themselves as a marketing demographic. Possibly because advertising your sexual identity gets you more sexual partners, and gays really like having lots of partners for some reason.
touhou is video games, its better than wojak and pepe ®™ threads
Being a deviant is nothing to be proud about. Eating pineapple on pizza is nothing to be proud about either.
Gays like advertising the fact that they're gay. Makes them feel special.
>2hu futa
This shit right here is why I can't support the principles of free speech.
One factor that matters is the setting, is it a place where LGBT characters are accepted or a place where they have to keep their identity in the shadows? In a setting like the former it makes sense for an LGBT character to have public relationships and it shouldn't be a problem that they have relationships or people they care about that they mention or show in the game or it's outside materials. But in a setting like the latter, subtlety is required, since no LGBT character would be out and about flanderizing their relationship and identity to every stranger they come across. That's why Andromeda's trans character was so awful: He/she/whatever told the MC they were trans and deadnamed herself in a society which supposedly didn't accept that, but the writers had to mention it for brownie points. Same applies to gay characters in that sense.
I don't want faggots in my games.
Pokemon is also video games. Come back when the games are actually discussed
Let's assume you're right.
Why is the advertisement more important to the gays?
People who are hardcore autists or maximum weebs find joy and pride in being who they are, but they see no need to advertise it to the normalniggers.
What is it about the gays that make advertisement an important facet of pride?
>"sexuality"
have sex
False
I want to fug the judge
Being gay is not an accomplishment, but our society leads them to believe that it is. So they take pride in their "accomplishment".
I remember in White Orchard in the Witcher 3 the hunter was gay, it was introduced in a way that was optional to see and made sense in the world.
Objective truths exist and come from the very synthesis of clashing idea's, when they are able to confront one another and reach a resolution, an actual resolution instead of masquerade of one, solutions and new truths come from them. The only ones who refuse to see the point of view others have already shut themselves off from the rest of the world and have chosen to live in a fantasy of their own creation.
Yeah but no one cares about 2hu games.
It's just shitposting material as much as IM@S, pepe and wojak.
Again, I've seen people who do some good stuff - mountain climbers, charity volunteers, space engineers. They are very proud of what they do. But they have no particular need to advertise to the normalniggers.
They obviously share their accomplishments with other people with the same job/hobby, but not to the general population.
it triggers zoomers because they can't identify with touhou girls to shitpost with
im gay
debate me
Ashe is good, but fuck the rest of the characters.
Why are you gay?
Anyone want to ERP with me?
I'll be the cute NEET girl
was it your dad, your uncle, or your bully that sexually assaulted you
>fucks and impregnates
Let me sniff your butt.
You aren't above anyone for shitposting user.
who says im gay
>why is advertisement more important to the gays
victim culture, also shared with blacks, trannies, and women.
yes i am
be my bf
Truth in a complex system is not black and white, it's iterative. This is because you can't be completely sure of something until you have all the info, and in an complex system new info will pop up faster than you can understand it.
But every piece of mostly-reliable info you collect allows you to come up with new ideas and gain new information to understand.
Only if you beat me at CS:GO
You are gay!
What happens if I lose?
The "objective truth" you are going on about is irrelevant when the situation you describe involves opinions. Some people would just not want gays in their games at all and they are just as viable as anyone that wants gay representation in a game.
A fair middle is like what described but now all you are doing is typing pseudo-intellectual bullshit about truth and being right when this shit is all subjective. You can have gay representation without shoving it down people's throats and making it extremely prevalent. Subtle nods at being gay are fine because then the character has more to their personality than being gay which should never be a characters focus or defining trait.
Tell me your stance(s) on:
transgender activists
sissies
extroverted hyper-sluts
Leon was pretty based though.
This will make all the cucks seethe.
>homo character introduced
>"and dont forget fellas, that i LOVE getting FUCKED in the ASS"
>everyone claps
>"so brave"
You'll pay for my neet expenses for the rest of your life
I ignore everything you say. You have to go find someone else to ERP with.
Better hope you win.
I've never even played CS:GO
Nhb, Arcade muh motherfucking nigga
Not him but
>transgender activists
Transexuality is a disorder, you should treat it with psychotherapy rather than taking med or surgery to destroy yourself
>sissies
Not my style of guys at all. I want a strong bf to do sports with, go hiking, and generally a guy that looks like a guy.
>hypersluts
I personally find sex not to have any meaning if you don't at least create a bit of complicity with the lad. Go to a bar after/before, talk a bit, no need to be become engaged but at least get some interest in him.
In short, I don't understand people who just slut it up without even knowing the name of the other person, but I don't blame people who have a few sex friends they can call when they're bored
I envy them desu
Okay okay since I pity you, how far would you go for sniffing my butt?
All three
I'll do whatever you want for a month
tfw no bully to have sex with
i have 4 dads
Life is too short to argue about homosexual characters in video games
But it's long enough for roleplaying with cute anime characters.
I only want implied yuri just like the 2hus.
The judge is a dumb idiot but at least she managed to show that there are some pretty worthwhile and interesting anons here. That's a fun experience in itself.
Dummy. Bet you're always reading off instructions since I can't possibly imagine you having the mental capacity to think of anything yourself.
Dumb diaperhu
There is no good way to introduce gay characters. They just shouldn't exist at all.
Make them cute twinks who kiss other cute twinks
youtube.com
Armored Core out of nowhere
I hate dumb /jp/sies forcing this thing. Fuck you
Then you're gonna pay for my neet expenses for a month+new vidya every two days.
You also need to clean my room everyday and wash my clothes. Deal?
same
t.from /jp/