Smash n Splash day 3 finals HE'S IN EDITION

oof

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richard stallman has found the fountain of youth

wheres the hbox poster? i wanna see those knee slappers

MAYYYYLAAAAYYYY

and then others will blame melee for running ultimate late I bet lol

I like watching Melee tourneys with you guys.

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>Drephen beat N0ne, KJH, Westballz and Shroomed after getting upset day 1 in pools
Damn, what a legend.

Thats crazy

fuck hungrybox and fuck ultimate and fuck gimr

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Link
youtube.com/watch?v=N29tCHG9DjI

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because that shitty game was going over

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>Toxic
Go back to your dilation station.

running late**

how is he so consistently shit? he's always late, has the stream go down at some point during the weekend and leechs off better streamers and takes there tech like, liva and project slippi.

>meleefag has shit taste in anime
to be expected i guess

it's an epic meme

no it wasnt, it went faster than project m at the very least

More importantly what to the "reminder to stop watching to stream to provide empirical data that Hbox is killing Melee" user? Did jannies ban him?

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not only that but he has the smash stream monopoly with the most followers

>Hunterchad
>Bad taste
Pick one.

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wizzy will win ultimate
wizzy will win melee
wizzy will win ultimate
wizzy will win melee
take the wizzpill
believe in the wizzrod
wizzy

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Hunterchads and Meleechads are the most based humans in existence.

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Yeah, gimr is the hackest of all frauds

>HMW and Wobbles
I'm surprisingly okay with this.

>HMW on commentary

For fucks sake

thunder sma

Wobbles on commentary

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TOP TIER CASTERS

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>problem occurs
durrr idk it was working before! it's the venue internet guys!

Why is he such a FUCK? How can someone be such a humongous Jew and show it off so much? God damn I hate this bald fucker so much.

Where's Ludwig?

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why does HMW always make basketball/nigger references?

DOUBLES AND WIZZY WINS BOTH EVENTS

screw you HomeMadeWobbles is a top tier commentary duo

KJH is the most overrated smasher in the community. Ever since when he went to summit, people have said he was going to level up but he's consistently disappointed

mang0's fox is like, low key, fuego

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Surely SFAT will beat Zain this time.

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he has hobbies outside of smash

reroll

he's trolling in twitch chat, he raided the chat during the ROA stream

very nice

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cus hes a nigger

ohto wohto

Imagine the smell

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>man uhhhh
>this is like, man, kobe vs lebron, feugo
>another NBA reference
>yoooooooo

Jesus christ those shield callouts

The Gims always wins.

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>hating gimr
>hating waff
you know these dudes built your community right?

the crowd is hype af

>GimR
>Building anything but a pile of jew gold

HMW has been a commentator for awhile but you are overstating his importance to the community. He has commentated very famous moments in Melee history but that's about it

so much this ^^^^
you guys should at least be courteous and give vgbootcamp a follow on all their channels

>Ultimatefags calling melee players smelly

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t. docfags

Reminder that Marth-Fox is 60-40 unironically.

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not gonna happen
the neets did the same thing to spooky

There are no ultimatefags in here right now, stop trying to incite shitflinging

What the fuck happened to Zain?

He was upset by Tech Boy who just got 2nd in PM

the smell thing came from smash 4 players

Yooo, like, uuhhh, lowkey though?

hmw must have said low key 20 times already

ok tell me how the community would have not come to the point it's at now if HMW never was a part of it.You wouldn't have wombo combo and and Mango at Genesis vs Tai but that's about it.

Prove me wrong

and think about subbing too! they bring us so many great content!

POO

is hmw high

>almost losing as Marth on FD
Is Zain slowly losing his touch?

yeah
like

He's just very black.

I just want whoever is more likely to beat Hbox to win. So lets go Zain

Zain's punish game is usually fucking stupid good. Not sure what the hell is going on this time.
He's one of maybe two players in top 8 who can stop Hbox.
What the fuck do we do now, lads?

so yes?

how do you go from this to top 8 at a stacked major?

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oh shit just remembered mango leff coming up after this

Waff was the one who was recording and uploading all the old school games at West Coast tournaments.

waff was a major part of the community, everybody loved him and he brought a chill vibe to the scene. i reckon the scene in cali at least wouldve been less than half as big if it wasnt for waff and mango making it fun to compete. dont try to lecture me about shit i was there for newfag

>He's one of maybe two players in top 8 who can stop Hbox.
Wizzy and Leffen have a better shot.

Yooo.. Uhhh, like I feel like, you know.. either one of them WINS or the other LOSES. You know, lowkey though..

god melee is fucking kino. they don't make em like they used to.

Still can’t believe Drephen won that. I’ve never seen someone choke as hard as KJH did that set

heres hoping for another leffen twitter rant

lol

>Amsa
>WIzzrobe
>Leffen
>Mang0
>Zain
All the people who can beat HBox

HMW is painful to listen to

he plateaued and then he got past it, simple. you know people can improve right?

Is Zain washed?

which one has a better chance at beating hbox?

Subscribe to VGBootCamp, or Hbox wins again!

someone needs to do a "lowkey" and "like" counter

leff t b h

>Sakurai doesn't want any more Smash kino so he made it that when you do a running jump you have zero fucking momentum

Speed and combos are too much for the old man nowadays, he prefers floaty moon combat

>no argument
keep shitposting kid, its all youre good for

whoever is playing better today

I really hope Mang0 destroys Leffen again just for this

Is this supposed to be impressive?

If you think Marth is anything but lame, you're either
1) A Marth main
2) Retarded
3) All of the above

No one knows really. mang0 has been practicing the Jiggs matchup recently and Leffen has always been really good at it. I'd assume mang0 because he can surprise Hbox, but Hbox has his last set vs Leff to look over.

>kid

Oh no no no. lmao Dunk did more for the west coast scene than HMW did

Considering how much leg work he actually puts in by himself, things run considerably well..usually

hehe yeah man

he's cool to play/watch, marth and falco have the most soul out of the entire cast
lame to play against

low tier
you have to be subtle enough that people think you're an actual shill like this

Dunk alone did more than anyone else has for melee probably.

I swear to god, SFAT is the most genius Fox in some retarded way.
The shit he does are so goddamn smart, but he's still so damn stupid.

>Dashback grab
>Dtilt
>SH fair
Yooo! So fucking H Y P E!

NO SFAT WHY DIDN'T YOU PICK STADIUM AT ALL?

someone redpill me on why hmw sounds the way he does

Black and from norcal

why are they playing on an old ass tv?

I TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

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poor sfat

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...

kek

its what happens when you do nothing but play video games, get drunk and get high from the age of 12

>This crowd
Goddamn, I haven't heard them this excited for Melee in years.

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mang0 vs Leffen

it's time

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>be sfat
>wake up
>lose to zain
>go back to bed

Living the dream

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He grew up around people who talked like that, so he did too.

BUT WHO'S GOT THE FRIENDLIES?

KEEP LEFFENS TWITTER READY

Are you experiencing another renaissance of Melee? After GOML, Melee been given life again after the Ultimate dark ages for the past few months

lmao I just noticed mang0 walks in halfway through the combo then walks away when drephen wins

crowd is always around this level, it's just mic'd up well for once, vgbc does something good finally

he seems like the guy who puts a fuckton of hours in but just ends up choking under pressure because he lacks the talent.

the state of gimr

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>Mango vs Leffen
These have consistently been some of the best sets in all of Melee.

Why the fuck did BMW sponsor mang0?

why did SFAT go back to battlefield

Are we*

If mango somehow loses this, it'll be Wizzy's tournament to take

this
t. have been to multiple majors

-- REMINDER --
IF LEFFEN LOSES IT'S HIS FANBASE FAULT FOR TRYING TO SPEAK TO HIM DURING THE TOURNAMENT
>IF LEFFEN LOSES IT'S HIS FANBASE FAULT FOR TRYING TO SPEAK TO HIM DURING THE TOURNAMENT
-- REMINDER --

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Yeah

bmw probably sponsor cloud 9

>pretending gimr has done nothing
Wew lads

who melee/ultimate chad here?

NO FOUR STOCK

SIZE GROWING

>using slippi
>not using skins
Come on you gotta compete with those crazy PM mods

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He was the one recording, commentating, and uploading all those NorCal tournies during the Brawl years when Melee was dying. He also ran combo video events and ran the Good Player Fund to invite players from the East Coast during that time.

the best matchup in all of smash and it's not even close

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still tame compared to leon against cosmos yesterday

Slippi honestly has some really cool shit you can do with it.

>no Icons: Combat Arena tourney
hold me bros...

have sex

Is hbox present?
I only know amsa and wizzy are in winners
who has the bracket

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Looking forward to sleeping through Ultimate top 8 because IT'S ALWAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING NIGHT.

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Mango washed AF LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LEFFEN CHADS RISE UP

shit first match.

Yes

Leffen looking EVO 2018 tier greasy right now, it might be his tournament.

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gimr will start doing it right after another top streamer starts doing it consistently

It's my birthday and I want Mango to win.

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you really, really fucking don't
i hate the lolsorandumb PM aesthetic with their garbage tier music and le epic wacky skins

mango giving litle leff again so isnt such a bitch after the set
based mango such a nice guy

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What is the point of bottles that small?
They will not satisfy anyone's thirst as they leave you wanting another one.

Sounds like the typical Ultimate top 8 experience.

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happy bday user

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to force you to buy more

they were crafted for tiny asian esports hands

Just give me my shadow Queen peach skin.

not this time,
wizzy is in top 8 ult

>Fox vs Falco
>USA vs Europe
>Default skins on both characters
Pure MeleeKino.

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>Shieldrop platform cancel bair
Mango is legit fucking stupid good.

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>Yo... yo this whole stock by leffen is fire

>m-muh primetime!
sure ultimatebros, you can play. right after the meleechads tire the crowd out completely.

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Mang0 ain't gonna win this desu

WHO IS IN WINNERS

Only a matter of days until we get new thicc Chillins.

If Wizzy wins in Ultimate that would be an insult to their game t b h and I'm all for it

This is a great set. Leffen is playing amazing

srs can someone explain those old tvs that they are playing on?

Why does Leffen look like he's about to have a mental breakdown?

HBox and Wizzy, also 2 others

hbd lad

hbox plup, amsa wizzrobe

Leffen in 2019 is whiniest bitch to ever exist. I hope he gets blown the fuck out at every event from now on.

less input lag

Where's the logic of CP'ing to Stadium? Why not go FoD?
Seems Leffen's been getting most kills off the top and Mango through edgeguards and dair spikes.

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based
all /ourguys/ we cant go wrong

They don't lag nigger. What's hard to understand?

If I played fighting games on the PC I'd excklusively do it on CRTs. Probably FPS too. They are faster than any flat you can buy.

Plup vs Mr Krabbs
aMSa vs Wizzrod

tbf dabuz will probably fuck him up
but i would have said that about tweek too

using AV input on hdtvs makes for serious input lag making games like melee unplayable

Holy fuck I just got here and thought OP was a joke. Let's fucking go drephen.

MANGO WASHED HAHAHAHHA

>mang0nation

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you take that back. hbox is nobody's guy

MangN0.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE MANGO NATION

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Good set, Leffen is playing insane right now.

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that really went downhill after the first game

hbox vs plup

Mango is washed as fuck lmao leffen exposing him for the fraud he is
Mango had an easy as fuck bracket at GOML and Leffen was rusty when they last played

Leffen has a better chance at beating hbox so this was a necessary evil

Let's hope the autistrod or amsa win something, literally fuck leffen.

Mang only lost because there was no VIP area for him to get drunk in before the match

wanted more horizontal distance to setup lazers to punish leffens fulhops in place

Nah it was tourney relevant clearly you weren't watching PM

i cant wait

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this tbqh

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lot of black people at smash events so they have to use tv no one wants to steal

Imagine wanting this fag to do well

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Could you play Melee spacies at Mang0 and Leffen's APM, Yea Forums?

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How's Hungrybox doing so far? If there's anyone I want Leffen to lose to, it's him.

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>449 actions per minute
Seriously?

cant wait for hGOD to sweep these scrubs

nothing like tuning in to watch mang0 lose niggas

Tweek has the tournament composure of a rabbit with severe hypertension. Leo fucked him up good last week, he needs some time to recover before he can play again.

>not playing the best character
puff chads rise up!

Imagine this guy chasing a girl. Obviously his GF is only with him for money, but he'd be a fucking incel kek

I only have 150 APM in Starcraft. I can't imagine being 3 times faster than that on just a controller

the saddest thing is mango chat members that talk about not having money so they cant sub or donate to him, imagine being that much of a cuck to donate when you’re poor

Who do I root for?!

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This guy looks so happy when drunk.

livestreamfails.com/post/38376

no, otherwise I wouldn't be shitposting here with all the other scrubs.

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This game is only second to brood war in skill ceiling

He's in winners and has to face against Plup, and then either aMSa or Wizzy after that.

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how hard do you think leffen is seething, that wizzy can place top 8 in ultimate and at the same time place higher than him in melee

amsa 100%

wizzy is just out of nowhere nuts. i think a new era of melee might be upon us

What a shitty sentence.
Sorry for bad englando.

What I really don't get is donating. I GET subbing to someone that has less than, let's say 1k subs, so you feel like you actually support that dude and are part of his stuff. And even then it's fucking pathetic.

But DONATING MONEY to someone like money or even bigger like Sodapoppin, who won't even fucking read your shit and mostly don't even say thanks - fucking why? Why would anyone do that? These people already make hundred of thousands a year, what motivates someone to give them more of their mcdonalds lunchmoney?

>taking shots on his Evo trophy
based as fuck

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Is APM counted as single buttons or full actions (e.g. wavedashing is 1)?

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how is apm measured? if every swoop of the stick is a single action then theres no way its that high

Wasn't Wizzrobe abruptly dropped before this sponsorship crisis?

Eh, he's looking for excuses to eventually make the move to full time streaming. Since Zer0 found success, a lot of other players wanna use their tournament reputation as a means to get viewers for their streams. I predict that maybe in a year or two Leffen will eventually quit and just turn into a generic variety streamer as well.

It's kinda sad, because it means tournaments become less about competition and more about being good enough to get your name out there to then promote your stream and never compete again. That will eventually damage scenes in the FGC and Smash.

he was crying about it on stream last night. He was saying it was just THIS time that he made it top 8 at ultimate, while he had many high placings

>have an estimated 600-650 apm Fox
>go 0-2 every tourny
fuck my life i hate marth

give him your energy

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High IQ

stop projecting, i watched all of it

Reminder that Wizzrobe is the purest form of Smash competitor.

400apm isn't that high when you think about it. A single dashback SH laser is three consecutive actions within the span of barely a second.
It's his precision that's impressive, not just pressing buttons fast.

But how is mang0 going to same my name if I don't donate :(

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What would having a thanks change? go back to normieland

She started dating him when he was working at a grocery store for a living. Just be tall is the truth.

This it's so obvious. He just looks for excuses doing it left and right. I hope he fails massively, he isn't closely as big as Zero.

A wavedash is counted as two actions. Jump and airdodge. Dashing is not counted as an action.

apm is measured as each input. whether it does anything or not is irrelevant.
the amount of fine tuning you do with the control stick accounts for more than half of the apm

i expected nothing less from litle leff

She's really not even pretty, maybe a 6/10. Don't act like he scored a dime.

Strong parasocial relationships are unhealthy and often lead to bad decisions.

Did he seriously, unironiclly stream himself downvoting Wizzrobe praise on Reddit?

you can't be mad at him for wanting to make more money. Competition is good and all but at the end of the day these people are trying to survive. The FGC is the most poverty stricken "esport" and smash manages to be below that

Yoshi is such a fucking strange character.
DID YOU KNOW? You can store powershields by buffering roll/spotdodge OoS and then buffering lightshield with Z.
It will automatically powershield the next three attacks, no matter how long you hold the shield. This includes projectiles, though they do no reflect.

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Is the 60 fps working for anyone?

>parasocial relationships
>strong
pick one

wizzrobe is such a pretty girl.

Fucking pathetic if true. How can such a great player be so unlikable.

yes
get better net alejandro

ITT: Smelly incels playing an old party game for kids with an arbitrary skillcap. Why not play Ultimate, where you actually have to learn matchups and there's just as much techskill? Melee is pretty much dead at this point, ya'll just look pathetic lol

imagine if wizzy actually beats both hbox and dabuz

all characters do that retard

The people he's moaning to hve it harder making ends meet than him, he can get fucked moaning about commentators make more money than him.

Yes, but I also subscribed to VGBootCamp(only cost $4.99) so I get access to higher quality.

the vods should still be there, see for yourself

Splatoon is in loser's finals!
twitch.tv/endgametv1

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a reminder not to respond to the poor bait itt

? Of course it's strong why else would they feel the need to empty their wallets to someone who doesn't even know or care about them.

Wizzrobe had to have done something that he got dropped by his last sponsor and can't get another one

Yoshi vs falcon seems like such a weird match up.

The loser of this plays Leffen, right? Poor Amsa

Working in streamlink at least

I'm surprised the FGC and fighting games in general aren't dying faster in the age of esports and streaming.

HOW DO WE SAVE HIM?!

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>trying to incite shitflinging in a good thread
Fuck off

twitter.com/PG_Plup/status/1135278360832151553 Mango > Leff

being a lonely fuck obsessed with an eceleb isnt a strong relationship

>just as much techskill

melee will never die lmao

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>not being like Wizzrobe and playing literally every Smash game at top 8 level

lool

Why are melee players all the weirdest looking fuckers around

He's a fucking autist and his personality literally does not exist. It's not even like M2k who fucks up all the time but at least does it in a fun way.

I wouldn't sponsor someone like him.

i would type out a paragraph normally but this is a good thread, seethe harder

His girl has been with him since before he was famous. And Sweden is full of beta pusies like leffen so that's as good as it gets for women there.

Wizzy vs Leffen Grand Final you heard it here first.

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Why does he think he deserves a VIP area?

tards who need to learn not to take bait

At least he did it. Leffen would've literally started tweeting in that guy's face.

And I think Jeff won.............

not every response is mad, user

If amsa figured out how to edgeguard Falcon he fucks up Wizzy every time.

Why even comment on it when you have no clue

Fighting yoshi really seems like the most annoying matchup in this game.

attention is attention for those people

>that yoshi pressure

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twitter.com/anthonygamache3/status/1134143588445671424

Still my favourite picture.

Every response is still what they want.

You either don't know what the word "strong" means or what a parasocial relationship is. Being a lonely fuck obsessed with an eceleb is exactly what a strong parasocial relationship would be. Strong isn't a synonym of normal or well adjusted here. Keep up with me man, you can do it.

Is Falcon Yoshi's worst high tier MU? I've heard Falco is up there as well, but I don't really know.

Every major is expected to have a VIP area for top players.

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only when its amsa tbqh with u famlama ding dong

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I bet if some fat nigger like Kels was playing Yoshi everyone would hate the player.

And that's a good thing.

>profile pic is him with axe
lol

Because he wants all the perks of being famous without any of the downsides.

if yoshi was more popular people would hate the character, these ledge stall are puff tier

its not easy, he's one of the hardest characters for yoshi to edgeguard because he will simply tank every thing onto stage and Yoshi has no kill move

the fact that his up b is a command grab ruins the one thing yoshi has going for him offstage

GIVE HIM YOUR ENERGY

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Lol; whatever helps you fat fucks sleep at night. Ultimate is much harder of a game, as evinced by melee "professionals" not even being able to compete. It has better graphics, more matchups, and more content. Pathetic lol

I'm just taking the chance to praise Wizzrobe

Anyone else think Yoshi is stupid underrated?

can people who don't know anything about melee please stop posting in this thread?

So it's supposed to be impressive then?

Yoshi is holding lightshield on platform.
What the FUCK do you realistically do as Falcon in a situation like that?

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@086

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Dive

It's pretty hard

bait shield drop, since its the only thing yoshi can do from there

OK, but why? Surely every entrant in an open tournament has the same value?

Autists have each other backs

No. The amount of effort to do anything with yoshi is insane.

Stop playing a shitty easy character that's basically a fast Jigglypuff, the only reason people think he's hype is that he has flashy animations. He's lame as fuck and easy to play.

Hahaha look at this guy spamming eggs and ledge stalling, but it's fine because he's japanese like Sakurai.

because smashers are rabid fanboys and will swarm top players for autographs and pictures all fucking day if you let them

the whole thing with yoshi is "why bother when I could just play fox?" He's up there in terms of difficulty but doesn't have that super bullshit fox can do even if yoshi's own bullshit is still pretty good

God I want to headpat Jason.

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Not if you're a player who can consistently make top 8 in every tournament you go to not to mention other people coming up to you and asking for autographs/pictures, all while you're trying to practice and get ready for your games.

LITERALLY WHY GO OVER THERE

I'd be very interested in seeing aMSa's APM. Yoshi is a nutty technical character.

GET FUCKED GOOK

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

choke

Leffen literally thinks that he shouldn't have to play pools so he can play celebrity all day.

what the fuck

GO HOME CHINAMAN HAHAHA
someone post the chinese copy pasta in case his chink fans are here

UNIRONICALLY UP B

melee = based
ultimate = based
rivals of aether = based

Someone please edit that leff over the virgin walk meme

Excuse you, aMSa is a nip not a gook

Gook is for Koreans
Chink is for Chinese

better to die like a man than to live like a bitch

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HAHAHAHA TAUNT A WIZZY SD THEN SD YOURSELF TO LOSE THE SET HAHAHAHAHA

FUCK YOU AMSA HAHAHAHA

Top players have way more value and you know it retard

TIME FOR HGOD

nobody cares about ledgestalling they care about passive play
yoshi doesnt camp ledge for timer he plays from ledge with projectiles because ledge grabs make his egg toss safe
its no different than a falco/fox playing defensively with lasers to close a deficit

yellow = gook

>342

Waveland grab or up-b

Falcon and Sheik probably give Yoshi the roughest time. Falco ain't too bad because of the combo/gimp potential and Yoshi's armor is more effective.

yeah i don't agree with that. i can understand wanting to have uninterrupted practice time, not skipping bracket matches. no TO worth their salt will float top players because one or two of them whined about burnout.

time for HGOD to put plup down
3-0

You're actually retarded, "gook" literally comes from the phonemes that are part of the Korean language

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REMINDER TO TURN OFF THE STREAM WHENEVER HUNGRYBOX IS PLAYING TO HELP PROVIDE EMPIRICAL DATA THAT HE IS IN FACT KILLING MELEE

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Because some people go rabid to get autographs and photos with whatever e-celeb. VIP rooms are basically a place for players to avoid getting mobbed or disturbed.
>Surely every entrant in an open tournament has the same value?
Do you seriously think little Timmy has the same value to the scene as Hungrybox or MKLeo?

Hi I'm retarded. Can someone explain seeding to me? I don't really have a grasp on how it works. It's just so better players don't meet earlier in bracket right? What decides your placement? I guess I'm just confused how that's fair to everyone else, so pros automatically have it easy early on?
Or am I misunderstanding it entirely.

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i see the mango “””nation””” goblinos are still upset amsa knocked mango to losers

he'll be chuffed about that result

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Any player that makes top 64 can go to it so it's still on merit

whats unbased then?

Thanks but I’ll watch pulp win instead

Also, I think Peach is kind of bullshit for Yoshi. Her dsmash/aerials/turnips rip through Yoshi's options.

Why does Leffen make such a big deal about competing in ultimate while plup and wizzy just chill out and play the game and do better all the time while still doing melee just fine?

FATALITY JUST WON

>3 seconds in
>Rest

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Seeding is based on your predicted placement based off of previous placement.

The Twitch Gillette ads give me cancer

Basically speaking you want the best players to meet in the finals, right? Therefore the tournament organizers create their own seeding prior to the start of the tournament so that better players are less likely to meet early on

GRSMASH??????

10 seconds in and Plup already looks ready to kill himself

Guess the AMP of Hungrybox

lmao they all look the same bro

y'know...
like...
kinda...
it's kinda like...
>repeats exactly what the other commentator just said.
and yeah...
like...
kinda...

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because leffen has even less self-awareness than hbox

Previous entrants to tournaments, typically. Occasionally seeding is done "by hand" which leads to bullshit. Unseeded tournaments end up having volatile results if the top 4~ meet super early.

>players 1 2 meet r 1 in bracket
>players 3 4 meet r 1 in bracket
>players 2 4 meet r2 in bracket
>4th best player immediately out

It's so that evenly matches players kind of meet. If seeding is done right, the best player should be at seed 1 and the worst at seed whatever the last place is. It has a lot to do with matchups. That's why it's important what people think of you. If you have been around in literally any fighting game tournament scene, you know there's some dicksuckers that get along with the TOs that get better seeding and that itself makes their brackets easier most of the time, which keeps giving them arguments to maybe get seeded high. There's no objective way to judge who is better than who at a, say, 1000 man tournament so a lot of it is also region based so you don't drive 10 hours to a tourney only to eliminate your best friend in the first match.

it's so the best players don't meet early in the bracket, which would force the elimination of one of two good players early.
if hbox and plup met in pools, the loser would be in losers bracket for the rest of the tournament. if seeding is worse still, then plup will immediately run into mango in that pool, and suddenly mango is eliminated in pools through no fault of his own, just by bracket luck.

>shoutouts to [random smasher from 2006]
>he cool

[Source needed]
Leffen is dick, but not wanting to play pools is too much even for him.
>It's just so better players don't meet earlier in bracket right?
More or less. It would be pretty bad if Tweek and MKleo or Hbox and Leffen met in pool.
>What decides your placement?
Performance at tournaments.
> I'm just confused how that's fair to everyone else, so pros automatically have it easy early on?
If a non-top player was underseeded, then they'll be able to demonstrate it by getting the upset.

80

Probably one of the fastest players to pick up a controller

hes black so hes allowed to do that

273

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Marshall JVM210C

>Enabling ads
>On VGBC

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Because Plup is a normal person, Wizzy has turbo-autism, and Leffen is a parody of himself.

>bair
>bair
>bair
>bair
>bair
>crazy stock from hbox

What the fuck does "arbitrary skillcap" even mean you massive fucking autist lmao

the last 3 digits of this post

twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1134529717586059264
You're a fucking idiot for giving Leffen any credit.

Hbox is a cuck

I added this to the compilation I'm working on now

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Fuck, meant to reply to regarding seeding.

300 ledge grabs each minute will bloat his apm probably

>too much of a casual to know how to block twitch ads
fuck me and my shitty adblock

can someone throw another crab please

>Plup actually shooting at other people

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>popping off game 1
kill hbox

BASED HGOD WORKING THE SMELEES

Unironically high due to aerial drift

>Game 1 popoff
Actually based

Because his popularity is built on being a whining bitch. I mean it works out well for him he's definitely more popular than those two in terms of sub count, which is all he really cares about at this point.

Not sure what it's like everywhere but here we do larger tournaments based around bracket r1 over pools for regional seeding.

sub 100
no need to mash buttons when you have superior awareness and decision making

Get Ublock Origin, retard.

>Mans just out here doing some craaazy stuff man

If it takes the stick into account it probably won't be that low. Mostly because Puff and because Hbox uses it for literally everything.

>chat lives matter

garbage stage

fuck this game sometimes

Not so fast Juan..

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thiccbox

He made a list last night of all the big tourneys that he went to that didn't have a VIP and it was almost every single one, so it seems like this isn't a regular standard thing. Yet I'm supposed to believe this is supposed to basically be a mandatory thing at big events?

Correct.

Fuck Plup tho.

This cannot be occurring Melee friends

give ONE argument not to have frozen stadium.
RIGHT NOW

Wizzy Autism is cute

m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLXFQ9jxHg

will at least one person in the world jerk off to that hbox jiggle

thanks, I was using some shit called NoAds

this matchup is retarded they hardly fight

Based. Freeze that shit already.

if he didn't have the wizzrod he'd be an incel

....so this is melee

I can't watch this

>plup camping
OH NO NO NO NO NO I THOUGHT MELEE WAS FAST

hbox literally flew away and then went to ledge what the fuck

God fucking damnit, Plup.

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youtube.com/watch?v=joENBivPkYs

You have 5 seconds to explain why HBox isn't your favourite Melee God.

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yeah like dude that shit was FUEGO

autism

I-it's not over yet right bros?
Plup can still win, right?

Didn't Plup """quit"""" cause "he was tired of Jigglypuff?"
Guess he's gonna quit again/

Looks like he's already given up.

>mfw going from those earlier sets to this

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he seems like a friendly guy
wizzy said it was just his shorts tho

Imagine having as much skill as plup in melee and then this fat latino fuck upthrow rests you a few times and pops off visibly as you glance over as your character flies off the screen, fucking kek

I might turn into a hbox fan, it's hilarious

cause he's a fag

>Hbox clowning on Plup
Yikes

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Because I prefer Axe.

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It's so good players don't have to worry about knocking each other out in round 2 of pools and they will meet later in bracket and have a more even spread with other players and also so they can be on stream. It's a calculated thing that is mostly done so top 48/32 etc actually have good players instead of shitters to watch on stream

Cope, my friend. Cope.

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I don't want him to desu
shiek is just as boring as jigglypuff

both ultimate and melee fucking suck. Scrolling through this thread seeing all these incels worshiping their smelly melee "pros" makes me laugh.

Imagine constantly losing a 7-3 matchup?

I would literally kill myself if I was Plup.

DUDE PUFF IS SO EASY TO PLAY I COULD WIN TOURNAMENTS WITH HIM IF I WANT TO BUT I DON'T LMAO

lol did he actuall say this

So the only people who can consistently beat HBox are Leffen and Wizzy?

plup is unbelievably bad at the puff matchup. I know he hates it but so does everyone else. fucking pressure the stupid nigger and get on with it, fuck

>presses down b
CLUTCH GODDDDDDD

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hbox

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>It's a calculated thing that is mostly done so top 48/32 etc actually have good players instead of shitters to watch on stream
Not really. It's more like so fraud 1 and fraud 2 don't get bracket luck because they have to fight fraud 3 and fraud 4 in early rounds while the best and second best player of the tournament play first round and are out already

Whelp. Plup on fucking suicide watch.

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>took 15 years for people to realize that not approaching is the best way to fight jiggly as fox
What

Lmao I forgot this gem

do you really believe fox puff is 7-3? or are you just parroting the opinion that has somehow stuck around for years

too soon!

Axe is the best. I'm sad he couldn't make it to this.

>Wizzy
You mean just Leffen, and thats because Leffen uses his hate to fuel him.

Plup's so bored lol.

puff dies early, or so I've been told

Why are both of these players sandbagging

>Puff dies ear-

Leffen said he won't ditto hbox because it would kill melee but it's actually because he would get BTFO and everyone would see he's full of shit.

plup playing like a bitch vs hbox last match. yes hbox camps, get the fuck over it

>446 APM

CHAT LUL

Hbox is sandbagging, Plup is struggling and got shit mentality.

>446
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Don't watch melee too much, does he actually do this or is it just a meme

zain

>tfw wizzy, amsa and axe are the only likeable melee players now

>joystick APM

;_;

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>Dude, Puff-Fox is like 30-70. You can just kill Puff at any time with an usmash because she dies so early.
>What do you mean comboing and confirms? Yeah, bairs are extremely safe and combo into each other at literally any %. But, lasers!

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Imagine HMW and La Luna on commentary together

LMFAO

holy shit HBOX could switch to starcraft

HBOX LITERALLY MOVING FASTER THAN PLUP

watchout your reddit is showing

>446 APM

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PUFF CONFIRMED MORE TECHNICAL THAN FOX

he's right

Of course not. I just say it to mock Foxfags.

I just remembered the last smash n splash was the one where hbox gave the cringey speech

CALL PLUP HE'S CRYING

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Hbox haters seething

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He's gonna quit melee just like m2k and armada

autists interacting is my favorite thing

damn

>twitch chat misunderstanding statistics

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>only hope at stopping hbox is wizzy or leffen
ohh nonono

To powerful direct hits, she factually does. Of course she's not gonna die from center stage at 100% to a staled to hell Fox bair. But she dies off the top of PS at like 50%.

Go to rebbit if you wanna circlejerk about fake shit.

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emo bitch

I mean he literally let Hbox do it and Hbox knew it was getting to him so he just kept camping because it guaranteed him the win.

>Zain
>Beating Hbox

When will top players learn that it's probably not best for them to tweet immediately after a match when emotions are super high

agreed. u have to counter puff's gayness with the fast paced movement of a clean fox

Maybe Plup needs to get good. Didn't he see how Leffen destroyed HBox up at GOML, or how Mang0 beat HBox in WF at Pound?

fuck me amsa really has a doable bracket right now

i seriously don't understand how you can take a character than can fly, cannot be edgeguarded, cannot be comboed, and lives to 150% on every stock unless the stars fucking align, and then say the character is terrible and the player is just good.

...

HAHAHAHAHAHA! HAAAHAAAAAHAHAHA!
*breathes*
HAHAHAHAH! AAAHAHAHA!

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>hit puff with nothing but lasers and soft bairs
>surprised when she lives to 100+%

????

hbox is gonna make every other top player retire

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And now people hate on amsa and axe after mango made it okay. Fuck this gay earth

didn't leffen just 3-0 hbox?

>FUCK REGGIE, FUCK NINTENDO, AND FUCK NIGGERS

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Plup Club in shambles.

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ditto?

>$170 for a GC controller

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'
>Of course she's not gonna die from center stage at 100% to a staled to hell Fox bair.
Meanwhile, the reverse is true.

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Niche markets mean a few suppliers can charge a premium.

Buy them second hand

Mirror match

Never because people coddle the fuck out of them. Why do you think they do it in the first place? For validation.

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>whining like Leffen
Oh boy

Thought he would be used to camping after playing so much ultimate

same

shit looks like fucking garbage and retard pm modders have no idea how aesthetics and colors work

Damn I missed out on some hilarious streams on MVG.

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How American are you?

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Almost like they're different characters with completely different kill moves. Based retard.

He double eliminated hbox at Come to Papa 3 and Shine last year so yeah he can beat hbox

t. fox cuck