>Chef vanished from the project 2 1/2 years ago. I've tried contacting him multiple times and haven't received a response. Bort left around the same time to be a family man. >The Kickstarter was not necessary, especially in hindsight. The majority of work on this game was unpaid. Myself, Bort, and Chef are the original Barkley 1 creators. I did not join the Kickstarter with them because I was aware of the many problems that could (and did) arise. >I was asked to join the project 3 years after the KS when the project had little money and was in shambles. I was committed to trying to finish the game but it was consistently set back by horrible management and I ended up quitting. The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy. >When I quit, Lazrool also quit. We were the only two remaining who understood the technical inner workings of this game. Laz worked on this project nearly from the start, pro bono, and was tired of the nonsense as well. >There is no incentive for "ToG" or anyone attached to the KS to talk about this debacle.
wait, so who was/is in charge of the Classics of Game channel? I thought it was Cboyardee for some reason.
Dominic Perez
I hope we at least get a text dump or asset dump someday. There’s a lot of great jokes and extremely high quality pixel art made for this game that may never see the light of day
Hudson Collins
Oooh boyyyy
>>I'm assuming the person who is "running" ToG now has bailed too? >Nope. Despite him admitting to me directly the game will die without me working on it, when I finally got tired and said I'll quit unless changes happen, he accepted my resignation and as far as I know is trying to keep the project alive by finding new "hires".
There is potential for even more of a shitshow
Benjamin Moore
suck my dick cunt. If you want easy (you)s go to some bait political thread. This is too serious
Just get one of us "hired" and leak the source code
Jaxon Myers
>extremely high quality pixel art I thought they were all stolen from other games though like that one dude that was just the player sprite from X-Kaliber
the pixel art in barkley 2 was all original assets
Eli Carter
That’s how it was in Barkley Gaiden. For Barkley 2 since they were actually going to sell it they couldn’t steal assets so they had FrankiePixelShow making them really good pixel art, he used to stream himself drawing it on twitch. There was a lot done
Brandon Mitchell
Barkley was one of the greatest indie games ever made, and now we will never know its like ever again.
How would they even make a commercial game work? It has Barkley's likeness all over it. I doubt he would just go ahead and let them use it without permission.
Nathaniel James
the first game was mostly stolen assets, the second game was entirely original stuff made by this guy twitter.com/franciscoulombe?lang=en honestly i just feel bad for him, even if he was paid he put in a ton of work that will never see the light of day.
Charles Barkley dies at the end of Barkley Gaiden, Barkley 2 was going to star his son Hoopz
Leo Foster
Well this sucks.
William Rivera
They were gonna just drop all mention of him and the others. The player character was a custom OC instead of Hoopz It was kinda doomed from the start, honestly
Nathan Thompson
Man, that sucks. Barkley 1 was ludo.
Carson Howard
>we will never get to see the in-game movie theater that had original CBoyardee and MDE videos made exclusively for the game >Barkley 2 is dead >CBoyardee is dead >MDE is dead
They mentioned talking to a lawyer about it when it was announced, basically it was alright as long as they never used his likeness and only referred to him as "Barkley".
Logan James
He Chaos Jam'd at the End of 1 and died though. He was never going to be in 2.
>Frankie did get paid, of all people who worked on the game he contributed the most work and was also paid the most. However, as Hentai Jihadist mentions, the money eventually dries up when split between so many people and over many years. >I can't speak for Frankie, but when I quit is around the same time Frankie stopped his work. In my mind, Frankie did more than what was expected of him and he did not need to do as much as he did. However, it seems that Frankie was told otherwise by ToG management.
Adam Wright
He could be left of Trotsky for all I care, he’s still a god tier pixel artist
Nathan Foster
So it was just another "run away with the money" kickstarter.
Ayden Rivera
they did a lot of work on the game but yes, it was ultimately pointless
Isaiah Parker
>tranny pronouns
Good thing it’s dead then
Fucking trannies wouldve pumped it full of propaganda and dick chopping
Eli Diaz
I never played the first Barkley game, does it still hold up today ?
Carson Price
how the fuck is "he/him" a "tranny pronoun"? he's a fat bearded dude irl you stupid nigger
Jack Powell
>does it still hold up today Its a free game thats only a couple hours long, just play it yourself you fucking donut
Dominic Phillips
No you fucking dunce, they worked on it for seven years, then ran out of money, they didn’t “take it and run”. This was managerial incompetence not some kind of scam, even if the end result is the same thing (money taken, no game).
Oliver Bennett
yes
Gabriel Long
Sounds like super easy work to me. Get money, pay yourself a salary, do some work and then tell people 2 years later that the project won´t be finished. Free money from retards.
Carter Adams
Yes, it’s an actually genuinely hilarious pastiche of JRPGs while simultaneously being one of the best JRPGs I’ve ever played. My only issue with the game is there’s an obnoxious QTE section near the start but other than that minor annoyance I wholeheartedly recommend it. It’s free, pretty short, and actually funny which is pretty rare for indie games
Easton Green
zoomies probably won't get any of the jokes but it is enjoyable
Christian Roberts
All the kickstarters I backed came out (even if most of them were disappointing). It's a goddamn shame too because I felt ToG were the ones who deserved the money the most since the first game was great(and free) and the studio was tiny.
Even though they weren't communicating I wasn't worried about the game because I figured they were passionate enough to get it out eventually even if it took years. Now today I find out that all the original people are gone and some incompetent power tripping asshole is the only one in charge so even if it does come out by some miracle there's no chance it will be good.
Ultimately I'm only out of the $10 I spent a decade ago but fuck cboyadee and the rest. They could have at least came out and said they're not working on the game anymore. I backed barkley 2 because I really enjoyed the first and wanted to support few really talented people in their new project.
He's talking about the fact that he has those pronouns in his twitter bio to begin with. In most cases, when someone has to go out of their way to say "here are the pronouns you should use to refer to me even though I'm clearly a fucking dude" that means they're knee-deep in tranny shit and they're too far gone.
Christopher Flores
the humour is pretty solid, it's weird internet humour that manages to not rely much on memes or dated references. Poor Cboyardee though, half the jokes he ever made got raped to death by retards. i remember he vehemently hated the guy who turned his shrek joke videos into a meme series.
Isaiah Roberts
Well, at least lazrool is still making funny shit.
BTW, here's their stream from a couple years ago that was probably lost. Shows dwarfnet and a Ulillillia inspired part, it's pretty good. Shame chef is doing normal stuff now. youtu.be/m4QlXFtOSoY
is youtube/captcha being retarded for anyone else or is it just me
Ryan Brooks
>diabetes and amnesia
Jesus Christ, he just can't catch a break.
Nathaniel White
>People were paid, the point that I was trying to make in the original post is that the majority of work on this project was done for "percentage" / good faith. This could have been done without a KS. I didn't have direct access to financial info, but from what I gathered in my time on the project, about 2/3rds of the money went towards wages and the other 1/3rd went to other expenses (conventions, etc.)
from OP's link
Thomas Flores
This. There is no acceptable reason for anybody to list their pronouns on their bio. Even if they're the normal ones, thinking you need to bring them up at all means you're a crazy person.
Cameron Young
who cares he's good at pixel art and that's all that matters, faggot
Blake Peterson
>There's a timeline where Barkley 2 comes out and it's GOTY >We're not in that timeline FUCK! EVERYTHING!
You do realize Kickstarter pledges include a key for the game when it eventually releases right? It’s not that different from pre-ordering except for the obvious scam risk
William Turner
> /pol/ making even the end of Barkley 2 a soapbox for them to autistically scream tranny left right and center
Just go fuck yourselves.
Jeremiah Morales
I backed a project for a beer stein project, I wasn't disappointed.
Dominic Scott
Yeah it’s kind of proof this board is overrun with underage zoomer faggots. If you’ve never played Barkley Gaiden not only do you not belong in this thread, you don’t even belong on this fucking board.
Sebastian King
One of the few games I was looking forward to. Didnt give any money to the kickstarter luckily. I really hope it ends up releasing in some form at some point. Maybe 11/11/23 we will actually get a surprise.
Landon Garcia
What are you talking about
Leo Ramirez
>he doesn't know about the part in barkley gaiden the game is literally too PROBLEMATIC for the devs now
Lincoln Williams
I think the thing that hurts the most is that timeline could have been ours if they had avoided crowdfunding. Sounds like the main folks doing most of the work was doing it for free anyway.
The sad part is barkley 2 nailed the humor from the few bits that got released.
Jonathan Green
t. gullible faggot that wasted all his money on a scam
Jason Collins
Chef is overrated and had no reason to delete his youtube videos.
>one side is a gaggle of literally insane people >the other side is normal people who point out the insane are insane
Truly two sides of the same coin.
Nathaniel Taylor
My point is you're making it seem bigger than just a shitpost
Charles Evans
go to bed, granps
Blake Baker
It was always weird to me, to imagine working with someone like Cboyardee on a structured project with a tangible story. The guy is famous for creating cartoons that make absolutely no sense. It really doesn't surprise me to hear he just vanished, that sounds like something he would do.
It doesn't surprise me. They used to be pretty active about showing stuff off, but after 2015 it was pretty clear it was going to be vaporware and abandoned.
Kind of a shame, but the direction the game was going in always seemed a bit iffy.
Dylan Price
You think Yea Forums is “normal people”? Are you literally fucking retarded or just a zoomer faggot 2016 tourist?
Benjamin Butler
you're sitting here crying about a pixel artist's twitter bio, have sex
Jack Parker
im glad crowdfunding exists because every now and then something really good gets made because of it but fuck being one of the people who actually backs them, i learned my lesson with starbound
Luke Cook
>donating money for a sequel to a meme game created with zero budget by internet funnymen >expecting the vidcon to actually get finished EVERYBODY GET UP IT'S TIME TO SCAM NOW
>having to reassure yourself that your side is good and correct and normal and the other side is bad and wrong and insane whatever helps you sleep at night bub
Easton Jones
Sorry, can't hear you over the anticipation for getting Bloodstained, and its prequel, for 28 dollars instead of 50+
how is putting $60 down for a game right after it gets announced that won't be out for a couple years any different than donating to a kickstarter?
Benjamin Rogers
Literally the only KS I gave two shits about. This decade is officially a lost generation.
Jordan Johnson
Yeah, i feel like he's the kind of guy that takes in more than he can chew, panic, crumbles under the pressure, and by now probably cries himself to sleep between two days working as a cashier
Levi Scott
one of the original barkley devs
Henry Smith
>the other side is normal people I have no love for trannies but I hope you don't honestly think Yea Forums's population are normal people.
Joseph Flores
Keep in mind that this amused the PR guy. Not the OGs
Colton Hughes
chef has not vanished, probably just blocked the sperglord that is posting he worked on a game just came out and he was the narrator in this video youtube.com/watch?v=bybfO8OnORA
Henry Johnson
he did the music for this game jam game that came out a month ago ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/44/sacrifights So it's not that he disappeared, it's just that he's completely ghosted Hiratio I guess.
Brayden Nguyen
Starbound still hurts, man.
Isaiah Howard
I don't give a flying fuck, I'm just letting you know what's going on because I'm actually reading the thread.
Owen Miller
Game may have actually been made if they hadn't decided to dedicate years to the gun gimmick.
No, he wasn't. He must have another user handle he goes by.
Angel Long
"of everything but rap and country" is a pretty good suffix
Kayden Lewis
You know just the other day I was thinking about Barkley 2 and wondering how it was coming along. Shame to see that it's dead.
Liam Green
>tumblr artstyle yep, that's gonna be a yikes from me
Easton Taylor
i don't know i probably would have liked it when i was younger but now that I'm old i don't feel anything anymore
Julian Barnes
He attached his name to something that people paid for upfront in good faith, with many likely donating specifically because he was involved. It's shitty of him to not answer any calls from the studio to contribute and then just release his own thing.
He's going to have the shadow of this hanging over him now.
Grayson Martinez
I will dry my tears at that fire
Chase Phillips
I'm kinda glad. It's like getting confirmation that your spouse died in that plane crash instead of wondering if they're desperately trying to survive in the middle of the jungle or something.
Gavin Mitchell
making it a 2d action game was a pipe dream, they should have just stuck to the RPGmaker formula
Nobody cares that it doesn't matter. Twitter pronouns have become a favorite mocking point of the public. You're the weirdo for not joining in on what should be a community activity.
i dont want to let the ip die but what can you do. i havent payed attention basketball since the sonics were a thing and the most obscure jrpg i ever played was probably an early fe. the lesson here is that you cant wait for someone to make your dream game, you have to make it yourself
>Chef quit 2 1/2 years ago >he worked on Katana Zero that came out a few months ago what the fuck
Isaiah Miller
Try to think the most retarded and cliche ending you can and you will probably be pretty close.
Isaiah Taylor
I'm gonna dehumanize myself and face to bloodshed guys, there's nothing left for me in this world
Dominic Diaz
he gave up the dream. i think he just does music now
Kevin Baker
>1/3 towards "other expenses" The video game industry is a modern day scam
Justin Peterson
i am
Angel Myers
I mean, no I’m not. Read what I said, I said ALMOST like RPGmaker. It’s an RPGmaker STYLE game make in Game Maker because Game Maker offers more freedom and versatility
Noah Bennett
That's honestly not that funny removed from the context of the rest of the game. It's on the same level, as user said, as the worst moments in Undertale.
undertale was directly inspired by barkley 1 you idiot faggot
Ayden Myers
One is protected by consumer protection laws, the other is an interest free loan.
Nicholas White
Another kickstarterfail.com story.
Jack Sullivan
it's not even a loan they owe you absolutely nothing. if the project fails for whatever reason you're just out of luck. it's a donation that they happen to attach perks to. like a pbs telethon.
Probably because it was ripped from SA you blithering paint sipper
Carter Lee
That...means absolutely nothing in relation to my post. I made no comment on which came first.
Brandon Smith
>Frankie drew 1000 fucking guns for nothing
Joshua Collins
What kind of limp-wristed baka abandons a project of this scope instead of just trimming it down and reworking it? I think I just lost a shit ton of respect for Chefboyardee and Bort.
Also the SA thread has 231 pages holy gentle caress.
>it's not even a loan they owe you absolutely nothing. They are supposed to owe you a working product. And yes it is a loan as there's no guarantee that you will get that loan payed back be it in money or in the form of the product you make the loan for. If you preorder a game and it never comes out you are 100% entitled to a refund by consumer law. Kickstarter there's not as much protection.
Oliver Lee
Well, he got paid at least. And we got to watch him do it.
Luis Carter
Honestly never felt like Barkley needed a sequel. It was made in a very specific time period where it could work and releasing a commercialized sequel as a "real game" years later is stretching the concept in ways it never needed to be.
Justin Harris
>holy gentle caress cboyardee, much like Something Awful, is basically dated hyper ironic comedy and a failed venture.
John Powell
no, it's literally a good faith donation you have zero recourse.
Jace Moore
No you're incorrect, there are various levels of backer tier rewards. If it was a donation it's a donation with nothing expected in return however since you're "donating" money with the expectation of receiving the items and features listed in said reward tiers that's not a donation that's progressed to a loan. You're giving money with the expectation of receiving some sort of return. It is for all intents and purposes an interest free loan.
Waiting for an official announcement from the ToG PR guy, maybe they'll admit that they fucked up big time and give us whatever's left of the game. I wanna see what could have been
Asher Baker
imagine actually believing this. you can expect anything you want that doesn't mean they have to give it to you.
Liam Long
obese
John Wilson
He just made announcement and said that he'll be taking questions on Twitter.
Landon Jackson
lol
Matthew Peterson
oh, this oughta be fun
David Wood
That's a joke but that dude's music really seems like something Tumblrgirls who wear chokers would listen to
Evan Ramirez
>Besides Barkley 2 dev being 100% dead
so despite the fact that everyone knows about the internal drama he still wants to bilk every last drop he can, huh
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Surely the creators of fucking Charles Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden part 1 the saga of Hoopz would never ironically put pronouns in their twitter bio to fuck with people. Fucking idiot.
Ethan Fisher
It isn't ironic at all. Look through the feed.
Dylan Young
>imagine actually believing this. you can expect anything you want that doesn't mean they have to give it to you. Imagine lacking reading comprehension on even understanding anything about the very site you think you know. There are tiers for backing a project on kickstarter and they tell you what your monetary investment will get you in the future. If you are told by someone to give them money and in return they will receive X and Y products and services in the future that's not a donation that's a loan. A typical donation does not result in a promised return of products and services to you but since kickstarter projects do claim such a promise they're not donations but interest free loans. I don't know why you're so defensive about it since interest free loans are given all the time for people investing in various projects or businesses.
Camden Cook
Why do people keep donating money to Kickstarters? Do they enjoy being scammed?
according to the SA guy it's just the PR dude and maybe some freelancers
Levi Ward
i remember seeing this game on greenlight. was pretty funny when i saw they literally just took the money immediately and never updated their KS ever again. have to give it to them for committing the oldest scam ever in the most classic way imaginable.
Kayden Watson
it was that rpg dev who claimed to communicate with celestial bodies? good times
Mason Wright
She/he actually ended up fulfilling the kickstarter for what it's worth, like five years late
Brandon Sanders
pretty sure it was a board game but yeah
Blake Myers
You get a refund if it's cancelled.
Goddamn this board is riddled with idiots
Oliver Thomas
Frankie also has some art credits for Katana Zero
Jordan Ortiz
I donated to one, and it panned out. Best 275 bucks I ever spent.
Old enough to be your dad. Donations can come with rewards but those rewards are not necessarily rewards to benefit you directly with some sort of tangible good or service. Fundraisers aren't generally done with the intent of providing you some sort of tangible return reward but rather to benefit some other third party. Funding the project of building a school in some remote village in Africa doesn't mean you now have a partial ownership of that school and the grounds if the money you used to fund it was a donation, they're not obligated to send the brightest performing students to work for you or anything in the future. However if you spent money to fund the development of a school in Africa and to get that money they offered you something tangible like a percentage ownership of not only the school but X square metres of real estate land nearby as well and first access to results of reports from the medical science lab then that becomes a whole different story, at that point you're making an investment. Kickstarter is basically a site for investments and monetary loans under the guise of "donations" for various legal reasons, like the site is for all intents and purposes not doing this for nefarious reasons but greed is greed and the resulting fact is they're just interest free loans.
Caleb Carter
It was a board game by a girl who was more or less obsessed with the sun. She had mental health problems and it was showing and anons decided to have fun with her. She did actually get help and got somewhat better later though and did follow through like years later.
Jace Martinez
Gold... Incan gold..
Caleb Carter
>Golgom >the maid's design is almost literally Hisui They planned this as a scam from the very start
Jack Torres
I should be sad, but any update at all fills me with happiness. Even if that update is "The game's fucked, and there's a 12.5% chance it'll come out". I dunno.
an actual crazy woman that suffers from thinking the sun speaks to her was able to get herself together and follow through on her commitments the tog team couldn't
Zachary Foster
cboyardee is still active on RPG Codex, so he's definitely not dead
Nolan Russell
People want to believe that they can help create the kind of games they live but aren't commercially viable for publishers. And most of these kickstarters have genuine intentions. We all have something that occupies just the right part of our heart that we'd throw a fiver towards in the hope of helping fund. Is the flash of hope and camaraderie between backers such a horrible thing, even if it's doomed?
Ian Roberts
Not surprising to be honest. At least the original classic is still there for us. They could never live up to the hype of a sequel anyway.
Lincoln Nelson
literally who
Anthony Sanchez
if the game actually came out resetera would REEEEEEEEEE like no tomorrow the game had "asperger's" as a status ailment and planned sam hyde involvement
Jason Campbell
Well she finally learned to harness the power of the sun, it's amazing what you can do when you accomplish that.
Adam King
It was a multiple choice section that included "Dwarf" and "Eunech" how the fuck are you getting triggered by it? fuck I hate nu/v/
No intelligent person ever expected this project to turn out. The charm in the first one was all the stolen sprites, music, unashamed copyright infringement, and likenesses of sports players/celebrities. The soul was removed from Barkley 2 on day one.
of these: prey for the gods: havent played yet, waiting for rest of content to be added overload: really good bards tale iv: complete fucking shit wakaliwood: didnt get shit but what was i expecting descent underground: not sure if this released or not, overload was way better than what i played of htis anyway. crowfall: last i played it was like minecraft with mmo abilities. kind of dont give a shit anymore underworld ascendant: biggest fuck you ever. game is complete shit and practically just a stock unity physics test. even if everything wasnt broken it would still be a completely garbage nothing like what was pitched in the video. Othersides also doing SS3? fucking scam alert, no way that games gonna be good either Samurai Cop 2: was shit and not in a funny way but i was expecting it pathologic- havent played yet but looks really good kingdom come- honestly thought it would be more realistic but plays a bit too much like skyrim but still good enough. mandate: dead hyper light drifter: crazy over funded and the final product was kind of a disappointment. all the money went into the console ports warmachine tactics: was janky for a while, finally shaped up. online is unfortunatley dead so not much point divinity: pretty good camelot: i hope its good torment: complete shit barkley 2: :( aethereus: complete shit
Angel Bailey
I recall reading that some of the Pump quotes were taken from actual SA posts, but I can't find them. Does anybody have a link on hand?
Camden Rodriguez
I remember watching bort and his brother streaming the game few years ago, and some guy in the chat said he's gonna leave so he won't get spoiled
Big F to you
Julian Mitchell
Link to what, the Truck Pump quotes? Also yeah chef wrote all but two of them I think, and one of them was taken verbatim from an SA post, although apparently Chef didn’t know at the time and wasn’t too happy when he found out
Cameron Barnes
I thought they were GW posts
Joshua Perez
chef is a depressed fucker who thinks he's above everyone
>expecting a self-aware sequel to a movie that was only funny because it was not self-aware to be funny dummy. also HLD was good.
>I wrote all of the truck pumps except for two. One of the pumps I didn't write is real. It's in the B-ball Dimension and it was a real rant somebody wrote about the game. The other one is the one in the sewers. My buddy asked if he could write one so I said sure. He stole it from Something Awful almost verbatim and it made me kind of mad when I found out, but I didn't know about SA at the time. The first pump is one I wrote when I was like 14 or 15 as a joke. One of the guys I made the game with, bort, used to be called Turkpimp. My friends made a series of other games where Turkpimp became bastardized into truck pump. The idea is that it's bort saying all of it, even though it's nothing like him.
Alexander Wright
Why do you say that?
Connor Barnes
I think a lot of Barkley's magic came from how unexpectedly good it was. The less you knew before you started, the better the result.
The best way to experience it now is to have a friend play it for the first time and watch their reactions
Jackson Murphy
Come the fuck on. You're supposed to be the shiniest example of indie games.
>thinks he's above everyone >hates everyone who quotes his memes Biggest goalpost moving in this thread.
Evan Phillips
He got mad that he made Shrek and Dilbert into memes and decided to shut everything down. It's like when an internet musician's least favorite song gets popular and they chimp out.
Robert Hill
He didn’t delete his own channel, YouTube deleted it because of copyright violations or something. Also there’s nothing wrong with him not wanting dumbass little zoomers tweeting Shrek memes at him for years on end, but do you even have any proof he hates it? I haven’t seen any
Jordan Moore
I had a lot of fun with my Cyanide and Happiness card game.
Henry Martinez
Just emailed him about a refund for my Kickstarter backing. They don't deliver, I'm getting my money back.
Samuel Foster
#wow #whoa
Aaron Gonzalez
>“The Wikipedia article talked about how Michael Jordan was in the movie Space Jam,” Brian explained, “and there was this line that was like, ‘Some fans argue whether or not this was canon.’” There was a pause here, an appreciation of the strange realm that celebrities like Jordan occupy between fiction and reality. “Like, was Space Jam canon to his life? Or to Looney Tunes? We didn’t know.”
>So, in response to the question one Wikipedian had unintentionally posed, Tales of Game’s Corp. Corp. got to work, and released Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden in 2008, a sequel to both Charles Barkley Shut Up and Jam and Space Jam.
This is some next level funny as shit.
Ryder Gomez
weird, he said he took them down here in this fucking ancient post
Wait so the entire thing was a scam orchestrated by their PR guy? Why did they even have a PR guy?
Julian Russell
pretty sure it's GZ
Xavier Wright
They ran out of money, user.
Eli Foster
Interesting, maybe he’s lying.
Oliver Thomas
I think he means he put them to private, just like he said
Evan Ortiz
Good fuck barkley niggers, this should've been obvious years ago
Aiden Young
Back in the early days there was a lot of hype around KS. It was something the unwashed masses had never seen and all the "tricks" you see used today were still being developed. They were proposing games that were actually different in a very stagnant time for games. Each new KS that came out had a different gimmick and it was very easy to be swept up in the hype. "Oh shit, THIS developer is working on it" "WHAT? STRETCH GOALS?" "Finally, a big budget hyperrealistic space sim!" "BARKLEY 2? BARKLEY 1 WAS AMAZING" etc. You know dumb kids with no knowledge of how business operate or how development works getting fucking pumped up over this super awesome game that hadnt been made yet. And that was part of it is that because it hadnt been made, you could convince yourself oh shit its gonna be amazing, just like the KS video!
Theres been a few decent things I've got from KS, but for the most part its just been business-minded people scamming the fuck out of dumb gamers. Companies are bastards enough to their employees, let alone a kickstarter money giver who they have no actual incentive to deliver to.
Eli Myers
He privatized all of his videos, then his channel got removed
Blake Barnes
>he’s pretending he’s been on Yea Forums for years Cute
Jaxson Nguyen
So why the fuck did the guy from Deep Purple sing the Blue Dragon boss theme anyway? How the fuck did that come about?
>In the update years later-- >I do admit that I wasn't able to send finished copies of the game to everyone before the budget ran out... but I never used "The Sun" or the voice (that I DID isolate on the 1350hz frequency of Carbon Monoxide) as EXCUSES for my partial failure on this Kickstarter.
CBoyardee needs to be stumped into the fucking dirt.
Aaron Adams
Your normal status being neurotypical is still hilarious to me.
Noah Cooper
SOUL: >original game, by fans having fun SOULLESS: >new management takes over company, runs Kickstarter for sequel, burns up all the money and tries to hire replacements for all of the original staff when they quit Money ruins games like these. Not every game needs to be a franchise or get a sequel.
Tyler Flores
What ever happened to Omori
Parker Hill
This fucking sucks. Lazrool and GZStorm have been making good shit for the last few years but it's not the same. I just want Barkley 2 ffs.
>Autistic soul and soulless meme Fuck off, zoomer.
Isaiah Johnson
This is the perfect example of the soul literally being ripped out of a game, deal with it.
Bentley Thompson
It wasn't just a bunch of idiots supporting scammers alone, it was also a bunch of idiots supporting another bunch of idiots, which just like that example it still happens today. A lot of kickstarters which got funded ended fucked because they vastly underestimated how much it costs to make a game, Shovel knight for example It got 200k but it costed 2mil to make, sure the game was good and sold very well, but that was because the people knew how to make a game and it made enough of a success to get all the DLC's and ported to every single console, cases like SK are the tip of the iceberg, like I think 5-10% of the kickstarter games are actually good or decent, most of the times its either scammers who throw some eye-candy to lure retards with too much money like the Cryamore and Star Citizen guys or a bunch amateurs with a idea who joined together and decided to TRY to make a game, while getting fucked because the money was running out and they weren't even able to fix half of the shit on their Alpha and or promised waaaaaaaaay too much shit while struggling to even getting out of the 0.1 alpha. Kickstarter can work, lots of good games came from it, Risk of Rain, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, Divinity are some examples of it, but for ever game which has potential there is a sea of scammers and idiots which makes kickstarter a very risky business.
Jose Powell
Daily reminder that you must give money ONLY to projects that: HAVE A FUCKING PLAYABLE DEMO (and a good one). A reasonable main goal, and I don't mean a LOW one, but a HIGH one. Projects that seem too cheap, probably are so, which means that devs are only making a market study with the campaign, and will get the real money from publishers, which of course will make decisions in the project, making the main point of crowdfunding (from the backer's point of view at least) moot. Ethical stretch goals, in other words, things that are not fundamental part of the game that actually add something meaningful to it, and are too expensive for the main goal. Basically translations and localizations, voice acting, multiplayer/ singleplayer (for games that are focused in singleplayer/ multiplayer respectively), ports, and mechanics TRULY expensive but not fundamental, like character creation for a CRPG where all your choices matter, so changing race, age, gender, origin etc. for your character will have many consequences, and would require to add a shitton of content for the game.
I'm not even close to surprised but I'm still disappointed regardless. From the moment they said they were implementing "dynamic text boxes" I knew that feature creep had strangled the game to death. Still, it's sad knowing it'll never get anywhere.
Bentley Price
Did anyone satirized in Barkley Gaiden ever comment on the game?
Jacob Turner
released a demo a few months ago, making halfhearted updates on social media, but nothing substantive
Brody Ross
Too bad you can't all cash back to make these retards go into poverty.
Julian Campbell
FUCKING JORDAN. I know he has a hand in this downfall!
Thomas Lewis
BOOM
Jaxson Evans
Least I got my body pillow
Ayden Reyes
im sure anyone stupid enough to preorder the game could do chargebacks now
Nathaniel Ward
>not using HE/HASNOSTYLE
Aaron Ramirez
You should then, these cunts deserve to be run into the ground.
Benjamin King
Cb*yardee has been silent for years since she’s undergoing transition and is pooling the remaining funds from the KS into FFS. It’s understandable if y’all are pissed about the game but please, Please use the correct pronouns.
Eli Lewis
Went back to YC page and I need to correct some details, they got 328k and was estimated to cost about 1,44mil initially.
The e-humor has started to age like milk. I liked Barkley Gaiden at the time but these days I'd rather not be reminded of what I thought was funny 10 years ago.
Brayden Jones
So basically one of the dev's brother decided to do all the business shit so he could control everything and fuck everybody over?
Would the humor even still land today? 'Internet' meta irony was already almost a dead horse at the release of the original game, now it's way past mainstream. I still think the original game is hilarious because I remember the context it was made in and posting in forums with guys named like "RPG Advocate", how does that translate to the present? Even the autists are ironic nowadays.
Chase Taylor
They should release the latest unfinished build of the game
Hunter Stewart
I think it could have. I liked what I've see of the demo they brought to a con.
Thomas Martin
read the thread ffs a dozen people already asked this dumb question
Nicholas Sullivan
It's a shame Boyardee ended up being a scammer faggot, but at least Barkey 1 still exists. Honestly, the sequel looked like complete shit and it wouldn't have any of the references/licensed shit that helped prop the original game up. When will people finally learn that 99.89% of all KS are nothing but blatant scams?
Dylan Butler
With this, the post-cyberapocalypse finally ends...
>we will never play what could have been the greatest vidcon of all time
Noah Morgan
Read my dick. I'm not looking at all those shitposts.
Angel Taylor
If you see someone with that name in a forum, he's probably being ironic. that was his point.
Noah Bailey
The RPG Advocate existed and he made a game that was way funnier than Barkley
Tyler Nguyen
Why are you blaming Boyardee? He did nothing wrong.
Luis Gomez
Based, the first game was dumb as fuck and I doubt that this would have been any different
Zachary Edwards
not him, but you're one of the reasons I almost never read Yea Forums anymore. You're a completely useless shitposter. You don't have nothing to say or contribute other than nitpicking a completely reasonable and inteliggent post. kys faggot, you're cancer.
Adrian Sanchez
>Honestly, the sequel looked like complete shit and it wouldn't have any of the references/licensed shit that helped prop the original game up. This, the only reason I was interested in this in the first place was because Barkley 1 was fucking funny and was a perfect parody of the stereotypical JRPG while also being a good RPG on its own. I don't really give a shit about the thousands of guns or whatever they were planning, I just wanted another funny JRPG parody. This wasn't it. But at least the humor seemed on point from the little we've seen.
Jose Cox
Maybe I should give this another try then, couldn't fullscreen it back then for some reason
Jeremiah Jenkins
The basis of the humor in Barkley 2 is that it's taking silly scenarios extremely seriously. I played it again last year and I call say you likely remember it relying more on real life references than it actually does. Charles Barkley starring in a JRPG is funny on its own, yes, but that the game makes Charles an asshole whose one true desire is Incan gold is far funnier. In 2013 I trusted Tales of Games to make a funny sequel without the copyrights.
Maybe if your question wasn't so tired and substanceless as "dude would people even find this funny game funny in current year?" shut up, man.
Carter Adams
I use to be 'friends' aka we were in the same circles with a few of these guys back when I lived in D.C.. I don't think any of them were every really serious about this shit. They spent more time and funding doing that stupid FF7 Remake parody video than an entire year of game production.
That being said, this is probably the fire that needed to be lighted under their ass. They can finally release the fucking demo they promised to release 5 years ago I guess. Also for everyone bandwagoning Chef, the guy was only really doing the music for the game.
Yeah I can understand that. The guy was certainly..... A character in person. His whole act of being weird wasn't really an act, he was just an awkward person. But say what you will his chiptune esque music was pretty nice.
David Thompson
who?
Thomas Wood
you don't read Yea Forums anymore because you've grown out of it you dumb boomer
Ryder Johnson
This dude in charge can get all the funding and programmers he wants, but without the ONE artist who was working on Barkley 2, it'll be fucked forever save a complete redo of the assets. twitter.com/franciscoulombe?lang=en
what's with the attitude, bucko? Are you mad or something?
Adam Lee
The point was that a significant amount of the humor (for me) came from being immersed in a specific subculture. Being in on the joke. It works as a "satire" of JRPGs, but it works much better as a reflection of those early RPGMaker games and the surrounding communities. Yes, the inconsistency of the graphics and the blatant rips are funny by themselves. Based on reactions I've seen from people who have no context, yes, the game is still kinda funny. But it is way funnier when you actually fucking played unironic 100% serious RPGMaker games doing identical shit. And lot of the other humor doesn't stick at all. Wilford Brimley diabetus jokes? Really?
Austin Torres
who?
Parker Barnes
jesus christ the guy from deep purple sang this
Grayson Sanders
the guy who made barkley and jam. but actually he only did the songs.
There's only 1 game I looked forward to release that had a kickstarter. I still didn't back it up even after they announced it would cost double after it actually released. Fucking 5 years of kickstarter hell but the game ended up bretty gud.
Next you're going to tell me that Bannerlord is dead. This news is so fucking painful even though I already knew it was the case. Time to give the original one another playthrough.
It is very funny, but the edginess of something like a graey alien text is long gone. At least purely absurd jokes like the "bball catacombs"/Square-Enix-Goya and stuff like the incan gold bit won't age.
Nathan Sullivan
yeah, so? he released in an sa thread too.
Daniel Sullivan
the random humor is not that bad since its used for worldbuilding and not just one time throwaway jokes i think the writing nicely encapsulates the era of internet culture it was made in instead of coming across as a caricature of that era, in other words i think that you can see that its old but it has aged well
Caleb Myers
who cares about a boomer indie game from 30 years ago. good riddance. fuck these ks scammers.
Evan Powell
Show me the thread then
Aaron Hernandez
like hell I'm going to buy an account and a fucking archive upgrae for 20 bucks just to show you a 12-year old thread. I don't care if you don't believe in me lol.
Easton Price
I keep getting this line in my head and I keep thinking it's a Mitch Hedberg joke for some reason.
James Miller
>The person who owns ToG and is running it now had nothing to do with Barkley 1 and has zero game dev experience. He is the ToG PR guy. wew. So the project was actually a joke from the start, just people didn't realize it.
Jason Murphy
is the brother the one doing all those twitters?
Carson Smith
I assumed you have one since you know about it. Anyway I've found out he made an account in 2007 so looks like I'm wrong anyway. Got mistaen by this quote
Jackson Myers
>I actually decided to play it this time around and I have to say I am really impressed thus far. This must have taken a lot of work. Smooth menus, quick gameplay and I absolutely LOVE the interactivity in the battle system. >Not sayin I'm a sucker for systems, but this game's improved to pretty great from what I played a long ago. :O >I was liking it until you started slamming on other games. Also, Barkley would be dead in a world like that being that he is probably 70-80 years old + sickening air = death. let's get realistic here ffs. >I think the biggest selling point for me is the dialouge. It's very well point together. It's so refreshing to play a game not totally influenced by anime, without the "cute" dialouge or the really lame attempts at making contrived, "dark" stories. It's original and so surreal, but makes perfect sense, somehow.
David Gray
>twitter guy thinks he can still make the game despite its entire soul leaving due to his incompetent mismanagement
I never really thought a game like this needed a sequel, at least one like what barkley 2 was looking like, but I wish they'd just let it die at this point.
I used to have one but was banned long ago and never bothered to buy it again.
Ian Morris
same desu
Christopher King
This is such a bummer. Can someone educate me on what the process is in cases like this? If a KS project doesn't pan out, are the creators legally obligated to repay everyone who donated, or do the donators take a risk with their investment, and if the project is a failure their money is just gone? Probably a dumb question but I've never used KS.
Adam Sanders
anyone who donated is fucked. they get nothing. the pr guy claims he's gonna release the demo but it'll never be truly finished.
Xavier Price
>implying it didn't resonate with a lot of people due to the shitload of references to 90s basketball, space jam, and barkley and jordan having their own videogames
Brayden Price
so will they be sued for fraud?
Christopher Sanders
he's really damage controlling hardcore. judging from how he's acting and what we know about the internal drama/the people that actually made barkley 1 no longer being involved, this game is 100% dead as far as i'm concerned pic related is the process for kickstarter refunds for projects that don't work out
If a project takes down their Kickstarter page and announces that they're shutting down the project on KS, then they are obligated to give the backers their money back. However, since this announcement has only come out on Twitter, and the PR guy claims that he's still keeping the project alive, KS isn't obligated to do anything. If the PR guy just keeps the charade up, then nobody's getting their money back. (I doubt they're getting their money back either way, considering that the dev is saying that they burned through all the cash over the years.)
Matthew Foster
it's in the fucking title of the game. it's always implied and assumed, retard.
Jacob Ward
nope. kickstarter is a donation. there's no promise you get shit. they could've took the money and lit it on fire and walked away scott-free
Joshua Campbell
>anyone who donated is fucked. I'm aware, I'm just wondering if that's legal. Is there nothing in Kickstarter's TOS that states failed projects must issue refunds?
Kevin Campbell
No. How many failed kickstarters is it gonna be until you learn this?
Lincoln Baker
see nope they dont get shit
Nathaniel Cox
Never mind, got some answers, thanks guys.
Jonathan Garcia
Kickstarter doesnt give a shit. They're supposed to step in (according to their own terms) if the project creator never even made an effort on the incentives/bonuses like tshirts and whatnot but they never do anyway. If they really did sell preorders through their own website, they could get in trouble that way.
I never gave money to kickstarters. I honestly didn't know it was a "donation". I assumed that if goals were not achieved the company would withheld the money or something. I'm also not american and I'm pretty sure this sort of thing would be illegal in my country. ;)
Daniel Roberts
Quoted directly from their TOS
>If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:
>they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned; >they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers; >they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised; >they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and >they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.
>The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers.
Lucas Bailey
>he doesn't dare to dream how sad
Ethan Martinez
Those cyberdwarf pillows might get some value now.
GZStorm is one of the original barkley devs you mong
Gavin Jones
I wish this sort of bare knuckle postmortem tell-all was more common, I fucking hate it when shit like this just falls apart or drops off the face of the Earth and we never get any real reason or understanding why.
Knowing how it all crashed and burned eases the pain.
I wish Kikestarter had some clause that said any game that wasn't released within 5 years of funding would have to release all their source code + assets to backers, or refund them.
Nicholas Campbell
apowermirror maybe
Hunter Ortiz
I donated to Wasteland 2 and regretted nothing. I will never donate to another kickstarter again though.
>Knowing how it all crashed and burned eases the pain. this, the dumb PR fucker is preventing closure
Logan Baker
that's disgusting
Tyler Barnes
Not that user, but I understand where he's coming from. It doesn't help that all this shit went down 2 years ago, and that the game will never be finished, but at least we know how it went down. It helps to bring closure, and come to terms with the fact that the game will never be done. Like Epistle 3.
wasteland 2 was pretty cool. I still wonder why people hated it.
Andrew Sanchez
Never gonna happen, kickstarter is a scam and they know it. They would never force something beneficial to people, just encourage them to donate to the next doomed project.
have no one ever tried suing a failed kickstarter?
Nathaniel Edwards
too bad the pr nigger is gonna keep it on life support to avoid refunds for ages
Christian Cruz
why are people thinking there's anyway to get your money back. it's spent. you can't get blood from a stone
Grayson Long
google it and tell us. we're waiting.
Justin Young
never heard of "liquidation" in the event of a bankruptcy? Sure you won't get all your money back, but you'll get some.
Logan Carter
Did anyone ever get the chance to play Tales of Game's Anne Frank game?
Blake Jones
>Donated to kickstarter for forged dice. >Got forged dice. >Donated to kickstarter for a special cooking utensils. >Got special cooking utensils. >Donated to kickstarter for board game. >Got a board game, albeit 3 months later than promised. >Donated to kickstarter for 4 different video games. >2 never released, 1 kept maintaining it'd release, and one literally keeps shilling. (Star Citizen)
Kickstarter's okay for everything BUT video games. You give game devs the money up front, they have no incentive to actually work. They already have the money. They get disillusioned.
Ethan Bennett
no
Sebastian Reyes
no but i'll try it. is it on the site?
Levi Cook
That wasn't me, user. The suggestion is appreciated but not really what I'm looking for.
Don't you need to prove that it's fraud for legal action to be a realistic option
Bentley Lee
I think it's more that game development is a lot harder, more expensive and more time consuming than people really realize. The reality is that it's a miracle any triple-A video game gets released and isn't a complete technical mess.
Chase Martinez
I'm sure there are a lot of young and adventurous lawyers out there ready to do this now that kickstarter became a big thing.
Kayden Murphy
I dont know what people expect. There shit ton of decent rpg makers games out there. It doesnt mean these developers are exactly competent enough to make a user another more complicated tool set. People have to think about the risk vs reward instead of giving their money mindlessly.
Joseph Wood
I don't think it exists, user.
Eli Phillips
I got "The Splitter" for camping, and The Blackbeard Non-stick pan. Which works pretty fucking similar to a normal Non-stick pan, but looks neat as fuck.
Kevin Collins
I knew in my heart this shit was over years ago but it's still sad. It sucks seeing a group of friends who made a dumb project for fun crash and burn and end up all hating each other like this. Should have kept it freeware and a few hours long again. That's all anybody really wanted.
It seems like the biggest problem with Kickstarter and crowdfunding isn't malicious scammers, but professional incompetence. A lot of these projects have an end goal for a product they want to make, and they need money, but they have no plan as to how to get to the final product. So once the project kicks off and they get their funding, they start acting like a headless chicken throwing the money everywhere and seeing what sticks. They have no direction, start wasting money on useless shit, and before long their funds dry up. Then they have to cancel the project because the creators didn't know what they were doing, and backers are left with nothing. It's a damn shame. Kickstarter has a lot of good ideas. I just wish it had more people with the resolve and patience to bring it to the market in a timely manner.
Kikestarter projects are in a very good position legally speaking. Backers are not really considered investors and even if they were, they would have to prove that the project managers were actually lying and not just incompetent. It isn't illegal for a business to accept funding, go broke, and then fail to deliver. It's only illegal if they accept funding while making promises that they don't intend to keep. Unless you have definitive proof that they never intended to make good on their promises, then you're out of luck.
Jaxon Miller
Only KS I ever donated to was hyper light drifter and it wound up being amazing.
Aaron Rivera
Part 2 is just a retread of part 1, only now your characters swapped regions. There are dramatic reveals but there are zero interesting new concepts or areas to explore. So obvious that they ran out of money.
Isaiah Martin
Two more devs weighing in with enormous posts. Will this quote entice you enough to read them?
>This is also about the time when I discovered the Dark Drakers, which soured the whole thing further. Dark Draker is a filler character in B2 who talks about being faster than the snapping maw of a drake. I discovered that an entire areas worth of NPC's were just carbon copies of Dark Draker with a different name given to each, AKA the illusion of work being done. Just these 10% finished NPC's basically littering the project to make it seem like it was all good. I suppose the plan was to eventually make them into distinct NPC's but the problem was that the whole game was plagued by the Dark Drakers, and they GREATLY attributed to the shit compile times. I also discovered/was told about some of the more hidden mechanics of the game which can only be described as the concoction of a lunatic. For example, two separate ingame time system both dictating quests and NPC behavior (with NPC's also being dictated by quest variables, items the player has etc.), leading to impossible to fix content. Thank the lord one of these system was later discarded.
Dominic Martinez
yeah, that makes sense. I'm sure when they started this crowdfunding business they must have covered their bases legally.
Aiden Cruz
It's not clear if they all really hate each other. The guy's who've spoken up each specifically stated the guy who pretty much fucked everything up had nothing to do with B1 so I don't think the actual minds behind the original are on bad terms.
Matthew Campbell
>Yea Forums >normal people just came from this thread because i was bored, but really nigger?
Hunter Walker
I think it's that the kind of people who make kickstarters for games are the kinds of people who want to work for videogames, and who neither have the money to self publish or an idea that a conventional publisher thinks is doable or commercially viable.
Tyler James
They need to hire YandereDev and get this project back on the rails.
>are the creators legally obligated to repay everyone who donated No. They can be sued for not delivering the product, but no one ever is. Crowdfunding is a great scam since most people don't put in enough money individually to make a lawsuit worth it, and most lawyers will tell you not to bother if the scammer is broke.
Isaac James
I seriously think the game would have been finished within a couple years if they hadn't committed so hard to the gun system. What a dumb move. A 2D ARPG is a fine idea but it could have been done with just a few different weapon options.
There's plenty of scams for more than just video games.
Juicero comes to mind right off hand.
Benjamin Cruz
It was more than just the gun's system, but you're right, it's a prime example of a needlessly arcane overcomplex system (which require Frankie to draw one THOUSAND different fucking gun sprites) which was all in service of a game which didn't even have good or fully functional basic combat. And this was just one of many ridiculously overambitious ideas like DwarfNET or the whole time system.
John Lopez
>normal people >because normal people spend 99% of their free time telling everyone that trannies are mentally ill and look for any excuse to bring it up
Jayden Young
>if the scammer is broke Seems more like the Kickstarter service itself is the scammer then because it always win.
Jayden Morgan
surprised at just how positive frankie is on the whole thing considering how many man-hours of art he made was for nothing because of this game.
Christian Collins
I only got burned by Double Fine Adventure and I would only say burned because it didn't turn out like I wish it did. I've done plenty of music ones that were fine, and the Oddworld art book one is going swimmingly.
Charles Young
ironic since you're the first person to bring up trannies in here.
Austin Gutierrez
Imagine paying for a game BEFORE its made XD
Ian Bennett
Is this the Duke Nukem Forever of indie games?
Aaron Jones
Well like he said, it wasn't for nothing, he did get paid for his time, which gave him enough money and free time to eventually work on his own main RPG project.
Carson Myers
>Goon project fails to be completed Saw it coming.
Connor Anderson
Until it actually releases no.
Ryan Martinez
>There was many schemes on how to move forward on many occasions. Every now and then there would be a burst of gumption, and work was being done, and it all seemed good again, briefly. But you can only run away from the problems for so long. The combat in the game was always too complicated, too ambitious, and criminally ignored. It was a total disgrace, and I did bring this up a few times, but ToG didn't seem to give a hoot, or there was always some excuse why it shouldn't be worked on right now. There was too many "affixes" for the guns, there were too many types of gun, there were too many gun materials, too much everything basically.
>Most of the gun stuff eventually sort of worked, and Frankie really outdid himself by making those 1000000 different gun sprites. Frankie was the only person who produced a consistent and high quality stream of work, and did way more than he needed to. It's a total disgrace that all the art he did is essentially in the toilet now.
>With combat the crux of the issue wasn't not having enough sprites or the guns not working 100% like intended, but the enemies. They were a total loving disgrace. But again, it wasn't seen as important enough to do something about it in an RPG game. To my knowledge, to this day there are no functional bosses.
>completely amateur game made in RPG maker as an in-joke by a few friends >suddenly start asking for money The writing was on the wall the entire time. Even if they weren't going to take the money in run, it's obvious that no one had the experience needed to actually finish an actual project.
Jose Baker
I've backed Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, Grim Dawn, Hyper Light Drifter, Overload, Divinity: OS2, Wasteland 2 and Obduction. Overall did pretty well here, waiting on Psychonauts 2, Wasteland 3, Starmancer, Bloodstained, and Consortium: The Tower and now worried about a single one
Connor Gonzalez
why did they let some fag with zero experience run the show? this was doomed to fail from the start
Leo Hughes
Can I get the full rundown on what DwarfNET actually is? The name kept getting thrown around during development but I never followed it too closely.
Gabriel Brooks
There is at least one documented case of people successfully suing a project for not delivering (the court figured the project creator was misappropriating funds for his own personal expenses), but info on possible other cases is really hard to find.
Asher Williams
Great and now you're dead.
Isaiah Collins
It was supposed to be like an in-game internet that would change and update over time
Juicero wasn't crowdfunded, it just had an assload of venture capital money.
Josiah Peterson
Fuck, I remember this screenshot. Still makes me laugh. Yeah that does sound overly ambitious but what really makes me sad is behind all these bullshit systems the game's humor and writing always looked really good.
Justin Williams
PCmustard race thought it was an unworthy CRPG even though I promise you, everyone who whined about the game here probably didn't play the original.
Cameron Jones
>Chex Quest
This game deserved to live
Cameron Long
>tfw chex quest 3 came out before barkley 2
Hudson Davis
Barkley or Chex Quest?
Cause the latter just was formally recognized by General Mills again the other day.
Joshua Foster
who would ever announce they're shutting down, when they could just post an update every 2 years saying they're still working on it and there will be a demo some day?
Camden Sullivan
chex quest 3 came out in like 2008
Nathan Lopez
>Cause the latter just was formally recognized by General Mills again the other day.
Oh I'm well aware. We now live in a magical world were goddamn General Mills recognizes Chex Quest 3 as canon
Charles Brooks
...
Jace Myers
I accidentally bought that game on the app store when I was young instead of Grim Fandango, because in those days it just automatically bought an app before telling you. Tried playing it, but it was the most boring shit. Fuck Broken Age.
