Why does no one talk about the Megaman ZX series in Yea Forums? It's kino
Why does no one talk about the Megaman ZX series in Yea Forums? It's kino
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I think it's a series that's a bit too challenging for its own good. That, and it veered off from the classic Mega Man formula even more than the X series, which would turn off some classic fans.
Great games otherwise.
Because while it's spectacular in the functional sense: it is infuriating to discuss and Yea Forums for whatever reason loves talking about Mega Man lore and canon. ZX is mostly a bunch of fun tributes to the rest of the franchise that can't really make contiguous sense in that way.
>ZX is mostly a bunch of fun tributes to the rest of the franchise that can't really make contiguous sense in that way.
You must be mixing up ZX with Legends tho. ZX has a bunch of continuity ith Zero and X while Legends, happening 5000 years later, barely references anything at all
I love Megaman ZX
Pandora is best girl
Because we don't wanna think what could happen in the NEVER EVER sequel.
A bio-metal war with a vent/ailie redisgned and model-Z coming back would be awesome.
Zx was too anime for my taste even though megaman battle network had a shounen anime.
ZX is my favorite Megaman game by far. ZXA is also pretty good and objectively better than ZX, but I don't really know why I still like ZX more
Ninja armor best armor, grown up Aile best girl, Wonder Panorama best song youtube.com
Is it me or were the transformations in advent a lot less useful?
I barely used anything that wasn't a Megaman
there were a gimmick
I guess it's because there is no more conflict between people and robots in the ZX era
Why would anyone use anything other than model Hx ? It was the most satisfying shit to go around flying and slashing.
you can punch with model FX/F
Because I hardly remember anything about the game that isn't Aile.
Aile is a treasure
Which should not be degraded with a slutty womb tattoo.
She's basically just genderbent Mega Man and that's a good thing
Hard to talk about it when the main character of his own series died but not before finding a real reason to fight for.
It was made by inti creates and anime nonsense is their bread and butter.
Didn't you play the game? He fought for the people he believed in.
Not even Pandora?
I like that games and bought ZXA twice because it was my first encounter with Capcoms "BETTER SELL x COPIES OR NO SEQUELS", needless to say that i never fell that shit again after no ZX3.
Honestly i think ZXA backtracked a bit too hard on what made ZX unique with having you teleport to half the stages, should just "fixed" the map (as in the actual Map, not the actual stages) to be a bit clearer, i actually really liked how free and big it was and liked the traversing.
ZXA might had more forms, but aside from the transplants from ZX and Model A they were very underwhelming, liked the Touch Screen Transform though.
Yeah, but at the end he said it out loud.
ZX was a legitimate bomb who sold like utter trash.
>Released during peak Megaman oversaturation
>Rehashing Zero which had entries already but with Metroidvania
>It ruins Zero's happy and ultra satisfying ending
>The Metroidvania part is super badly done
>Shitty plot
DS was a very bad time for Megaman.
do you think it would have sold better if it was released in 2010-2014?
Because nobody cared about megaman when it came out. There were plenty of games already out and they all seemed to have their own gimmicks. Having a new franchise just alienated even more people that just wanted a straightforward megaman game.
Was it a coincidence or Inti was legit answering the meme?
Ooops
>It ruins Zero's happy and ultra satisfying ending
Arguably Legends already did that, ZX more then anything showed that Zero (and Ciel) DID cause a Era of Peace and Equality BEFORE shit hit the fan again, and even then the Shit-Fan hit wasn't really bad until ZXA expanded on it.
I was gonna post Subtanks ZXA animation, but Yea Forums won't let me.
The point I was making is that the references which ZX includes to the other series (including Legends) creates small pockets where 'making canon sense' is a strain to the point Yea Forums can't handle it.
The remains and cyber elves of some of the biometal originals are destroyed. Yet the biometals still allege to be remnants of these heroes of a bygone age. It makes plenty of sense for the sendups the games do. But there's no point where exposition about the hoops that need to be jumped to actually make that happen are made. Same thing with the various health items; in addition to how they're intact there' E-Cans work for the humanoids even though no one is running on solar energy.
This is the things that come up on Yea Forums threads, at least in my experience, rather than appreciating them for what they are: a bunch of tributes.
>Arguably Legends already did that,
Legends is so far in the future it doesn't fucking matter. There's a massive blank space where anything could have happen but it's easy to think that for once shit actually went nice and happily for a good long while. Meanwhile in ZX "Oh yeah Humans and Reploids finally managed to co-exist in peace except 3 minutes later Weil ghost became a not-Sigma Virus and started to corrupt people and fucking killed Ciel, yay".
Different user but I think if the game was released as "Mega Man Zero:X" it would've sold better.
I can't find a CIA to put it on my 3DS like I can with the Zero games.
Legends didn't ruin anything, Inti did with their tragedy and suffering fetish.
because its 2d pixle shit
undubbed ZX and ZXA roms
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these ROMs use the Japanese savefiles
>OH SHIT MODEL X IS AWESOME FUCK YEAH BLUE MEGAMAN SOMETHING NEW AFTER 4 ZERO SLASH AND DASH LOOK AT HOW FUCKING STRONG IS THIS BUSTER AW YEAH
>Wait, why I am becoming Zero with an open jacket again?
>Good thing I can just transform back into it! Wait... Where's my Model X...?
Dropped the game right there and then.
ZX biggest issue was that it more Zero with a sloppily tacked on Metroidvania. It brought absolutely nothing new, unique or interesting to the franchise in terms of gameplay.
The Guardians are trash, ZX utterly and completely outclass them except for HX which is extremely broken. And then in ZXA "Yay I can transform into the bosses instead! It's almost like I got their powers in the classic Megaman sense!" and they're all utterly trash and gimmicky pieces of shit you use twice per game at best.
Bad execution defines ZX.
ZX has the most ridiculous boss names though. Who could forget Hivolt the Raptoroid?
>Tomycase
does he do any porn?
pandora looks fat in that
ZX games had fucking amazing pixel art and soundtrack, but mostly shit everything else
The difficulty was much lower than Zero games and all the backtracking was super tedious.
But the English version of ZX was also undubbed.
the Biometal system was IMO, the best fucking thing in the entire series, and even tho i played the game like 16 years ago, i still find myself listening to some music tracks from time to time, my favorite being:
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as far as I know, only ecchi at best
both PAL and the NA versions had voicelines removed though
You can become EVERYONE!
Except Prometheus and Pandora.
why is she so cute bros
short fluffy hair
>Prometheus and Pandora data floating before you
>Albert absorbs them instead
I really wanted to play as both of them, maybe some chinese fangame dev will make a game with a playable Prometheus and Pandora
Maybe if you pay him.
The open world concept is terrible. Especially since each area feels completely disconnected to the others. It just makes for tedious searching and running around. That, and the story being a bunch of kids with Megaman powers probably turned people off.
Gameplaywise it's one of the best in the franchise though and the individual stages/bosses are fun.
I find it hilarious that despite the premise of multiple series: It's Zero 4 and end of ZXA -if the Masters have any humans- that are really the only point in the entire 60 game series actually tries to provide first had context to the human-robot race relations. Everything else is just allegations between groups entirely made of robots, or a single human doctor who themsleves don't believe the things they're reporting.
I actually really like the idea that: The essential components of humanity is engineered and recreated in artificial beings. Destroying the perception of a division and satisfying their creator to succeed humans as its replacement. But even if that was a satisfying ending: the story it's the ending for hasn't really been told.
I haven't played ZXA, so I don't know much about the story and I have always wondered, Is Albert a corrupted Axl ?
>the story being a bunch of kids with Megaman powers probably turned people off.
Exactly, the story felt like Sailor Moon except for 10 year old boys. What were they thinking, the games sold like like trash even in Japan.
Ultimately Legends is in a "Don't think" situation. They put it a gorillion years in the future right at the end of the timeline because it's the only way it could "fit in" and do not be utterly disruptive considering it's finality outlook and feeling.
she's just some dude
model A being similar to Axl is, as far as ZXA's plot is concerned, just a red herring.
This. Pandora and her brother deserve a lot more love. I haven't seen such satisfying characters in a game in a long time.
But long hair Aile is even cuter.
that artist is so based
no
The only reason Legends is disruptive is because every fucking game series is trying to end with a plot bridge into it. Rather than just acknowledging it being a thing in the far-far future. Turn A Gundam and Legion of Superheros don't have this problem
Maybe, but maybe it really was axl and albert just used him and erased his identity.
I want Atlas to kick my ass
More like, kick your booty.
ZX was fairly easy. The Zero series was the difficult one.
I find Classic Harder than any of them really.
Ashe gets the booty kicking
They really just needed to design the map better.
The exploration based 2d Platformer/Metroidvania genre has decent enough maps.
Inti just really screwed up on creating a proper map to represent the area and connect the sections well enough.
They got put into MegaMan Star Force at least.
Kinda.
The map wasn't that confusing. It is not like it ruined the whole experience.
At least you're lucky you're not french. Almost all of the character's names in ZX are french words, each more retarded than the last. (Most of them are based on different types of fish)
Gratuitous French is a Zero thing that carried over to ZX.
I thought all the stuff in Zero were faux latin and greek?
The Resistance all had gratuitous French names.
Are X and Zero alive in ZX? I kinda want them to have a rest desu. They both fought and died in the zero series after so long
Depends on your definition of alive
No. Biometals are bootlegs made out of Ciel's memories.
>Biometals are bootlegs made out of Ciel's memories
Explain how Biometal W is a thing then.
Concentrated Weil's butthurt + Ragnarock debris. That's where Ciel got the idea from in the first place.
They are dicking around in Cyber-Elf-Land aka robot afterlife.
And we still dont know what happened to Ciel, its never explicitly said that she died.
Question about Mavericks. Are all of them infected with the zero virus? Cause I thought they got rid of that in one of the X games but there’s more Mavericks after the zero games
The ones in the ZX games are made by Model W to go Maverick.
Mavericks happen because this shit is what happens when you give robots free will: they can decide to take bad decisions.
That's in no small part what makes X8's plot pants on head retarded.
>but there’s more Mavericks after the zero games
Did you never notice how Maverick evolved and became corrupted as a term until it pretty much became a buzzword that meant "Everyone I disagree with"?
Kino my ass. The biometals and copy forms didn't live up to their gameplay potential in the slightest.
The Mavericks in Zero are usually just reploids who didn't want to get junked by Neo Arcadia, but some are also under the influence of the Elves I guess.
In ZX it's down to Model W, but Maverick also just means anyone who doesn't obey Legion.
Thanks bros. I’m still new to the megaman lore. Just beat the zero series and am going through the X games now.
I think you mean "everyone the government disgreed with"
>Government bad!
Looks like we've got a Maverick here guys. Call the Hunters.
>megaman thread
>only post fanart
>never the actual 2d pixle shit games
absolute state of megamen shitters
Because it is for patricians only.
And because ZX3 never ever so we just want to forget.
patrician all around
ZX3 exists in your heart.
I know bro. I know.
There's not much to talk about, they're fine games but very flawed
In my mind Prometheus and Pandora survived Advent, lost their memory, and are working with the ZX and ZXA characters to defeat Master Thomas.
did they? which one?
The term "Maverick" in mega man is used for any Reploids and Mechaniloids who want to harm humans or other Reploids/Mechaniloids.
The causes of this behavior can be by software bugs or errors, Viruses, or by their own free will.
The term "Maverick" would also be reduced to a mud slapping term for anyone person or group that wouldnt cooperate with the will of the humans or government. Similar to how people would call political opponent "communist" in the 1950s.
Let's be honest, Inti pixel art is not exactly the best around.
3. Jack Corvus really is just Prometheus but with a bird theme.
It's up there for action platformers, the attention to detail is stunning.
>that subtank in the volcano stage
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?
its perfect, there nothing to discuss
too many autistic zero niggers
ZX and ZX Advent were kino
We got a sequal
It's not impossible, considering someone like zero survived worse.
>Giro gets new moves that Zero never had.
>We can't use them.
I dare you to name 5 Pseudoroids without having to look them up.
Lurerre the abyssroid
Hurricaune the wolveroid
and
FUCK!
If the want Dragon to live longer, they should make a PC port at one point.
That's very likely, they talked about bringing more games to Steam on BitSummit. I just hope it has crossplay.
Add to this Azure Striker Gunvolt 2 and they'll get my money.
Would Capcom be accused of trying to be progressive, if ZXA came out today?
>first two subtanks are fairly easy to get
>third one is a tedious slog at the best of times
>last one is an outright pain in the ass that requires near-mastery of how model f works under a short time limit when you've never needed to know anything about how model f works before
The girls are cute here so no one would mind.
But it is so satisfying when you get it
not really, i wanted to punch the devs using model f.
Post your ZX3 fanfic.
Be honest, at least half of you have come up with an idea or two of how you'd finish the series if it were up to you. You can me nor you can fool yourselves.
I agree, classic gives you limited movement options, the bosses move quickly without a lot of telegraphs and deal a lot of damage, E-Tanks were limited as well. Beating bosses with buster only is quite hard, I needed Save States to even get enough tries to learn the patterns.
I can't speak for the PAL version, but the NA version didn't remove any voice lines, they were all left in when I played it not too long ago
ZX? Nah.
ZX is pretty much fully voiced in Japanese. How many voices did you remember hearing?
Cute grill
>This is a video montaje I made using the audio from the Japanese version and the video from the English version.
oops
I'm both the posts, I just for forgot to include the video as an example of what the English version was missing.
Double oops
I really want capcom to salvage the biometal system for X9. Armor swaping on the fly was pretty fucking neat
What would X9 even be about?
Cyber Elf wars was X vs Weil and Omega using Zero's original body.
We'd have to use X and Axl only.
>prometeus and pandora survive albert's base exploding
>lose their memories, but their killswitches are also disabled
>nearby village finds them
>intro boss sent by master thomas attacks
>uses copy ability to copy the boss' abilities
>character you choose decides to investigate what's going on, knowing that they have some connection to it
>finds group of hunters lead by a zxa protagonist that is investigating as well
>bosses, stages, getting powerups, the usual
>meet zx protagonist
>something tips off the zx and zxa protagonists that you're prometheus or pandora and a two-way boss fight ensures
>you win
>they accept that you've changed since you didn't kill them after the boss fight
>zx protag refers you to master mikhail who's the last guy in the government that can stand up to thomas
>more stages and bosses
>reach fortress
>one stage is a boss rush against siarnaq, thetis, atlas, and aeolus. might be powered up ala the guardians in zero 2's fortress stages. siarnaq commits sudoku after beating him because he is an honolabu ninja
>models l, f, h, and p separate from their "chosen ones" since their hosts are almost dead ( or dead in model p's case)
>model z reappears and returns the evil models back to normal with model x. this also makes atlas, thetis, and aeolus not be evil since they're no longer being mind-controlled by the evil models. aeolus is still a dick and atlas is a bit of dick still, tho
>final boss time
>horde of gallons and other mavericks appear. your character decides to settle everything with thomas and model w once and for all
>thomas defeated, the world is saved, hooray! your character, the zx protag, and the zxa protag become friends
>prometheus gets vent and ashe
>pandora gets aile and grey
>What would X9 even be about?
Probably still bullshitting the story, taking place right after X8 and never close to or even touching Zero's lore like every megaman game. Oh and Sigma is still there too for some reason.
>Post your ZX3 fanfic
Redemption arc for Prometheus and Pandora. The amount of hoops the game jumps through to tell you that they're not dead after the fight, and they managed to survive getting all of their negativity absorbed by Model Ws makes it seem odd to have them get unceremoniously killed off by a fucking cave-in of all things. Come on, if Dr Wily can survive having some rocks fall on him, then I'm sure some reploids can.
>Survive a rough fight with the player character, okay, they've gotta have exposition with albert
>Survive getting centuries of negativity absorbed by Model Ws, something that was shown to be fatal to a reploid previously in the game. At this point, their story could have been completed, but..
>Model A and the player character both comment on how they're still alive, yet they're unable to save them (Always speculated this to be a 'surprise' when they return during the next game)
Could either write around their remaining two-day life span with Anime time, or have Mikhail unfuck their shit.
>But they're crazy evil and they did a bunch of bad stuff!
Under the influence of Biometal Model W. Could say that all that negativity left them when it was drained, and their W fragments have been rendered inert.
>What would their motivation be?
Revenge against Albert's buttbuddy, or paying off their crimes committed while under the influence of Model W
Their existence is absolutely fucking miserable, and they deserve a happy ending. If you want to go with the bitter sweet route, you could always have a HEROIC SACRIFICE moment too.
The new generation reploids gather together to reform Sigma's consciousness so that Capcom can reestablish the status quo.
There's still some characters they can use.
Ashe is fucking insane though.
>free fall on a airship without parachute
>What would X9 even be about?
Something else entirely.
The X series is under no obligation of crossing over to the Zero series. Just think about it, when has classic ever alluded to actually making the jump? You're basically killing the bronze goose for no good reason since if you just keep making more games you profit more. The Elf Wars are also never given any specific date and they only say the Zero series happens 100 years after it, so they have free rein to do whatever they please.
Also don't forget the biggest reason we even got those small hints in Power Fighters: Inafune desperately wanted to hype Zero. He did everything he could from making him "steal all the good scenes" in his own words to giving him a Not-Aeris to die off when she debuted.
>What would X9 even be about?
Humans assign a new human doctor to help the hunters (its dr weil) and wacky stuff happens when the doctor start to dig into X and Zero's past.
in short, go back to some ideas X6 had like Willy may be alive and pulling shit and for some reason going into the ruins of Light's lab is punishable with death
I want more Nana.
There are eight mavericks, you kill them, get their weapons, unlock a few more stages and destroy a giant robot at the end of the last level.
The end.
The parrot?
You and me both
Probably a soft reboot for the series. If they continue where things left off it would be too confusing for new players.
No. They're obviously going to replace Axl with one of the background Maverick Hunters in Maverick Hunter X's Day of Sigma video.
CUTE
(cough)
green bike dude would be a better choice.
>both a ninja robot and also a fashion model
welcome to the future son
cinnamon was pretty cute
I love the ZX series. If there is one thing that sucks about the first ZX, it would be the shitty map system, and the lack of abilities for the biometals (excluding OX).
As for Advent, make the voices less shit.
wings like a dog tail
Cute!
Reminder that the ZX and ZXA soundtracks were remastered as "Tunes" albums
listen to this bop
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They really should have either had an English dub from the start or stuck with Japanese VA with English text in ZXA. It's a bit jarring playing them back to back.
kino
Thankfully there's patches for JP voice with English text in both games now
> Albert is a white man with fuchsia hair.
> Grey is a brown boy with silver hair.
>Albert wanted to use him as a replace body.
What did he meant by this?
He wants to be the little boy.
Model F best model
Since there's no EXE thread up, does anyone own this?
It's $10 but I'm really wondering how bad it looks.
Also I'm pretty sure it came with a rare chip and the sneaky jap nigger swapped it.
how advanced is PS2 hacking these days (or would messing with the Legacy Collection easier)?
I've been fiddling with shit and I think I've figured enough game design issues to propose a QoL hack for X7
Megaman going "open world" was a terrible idea. The Biometal mechanic is fine but I like the Zero games a lot better.
ZX's gameplay was the best in the entire Mega Man series.
>Classic builds the fundementals with jumping, sliding and shooting
>X builds on them by introducing wall hopping and wall sliding
>Zero improves on them even further by having a melee option
>ZX perfects it by giving the player 5 DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLES (7 if you count Model X and Model OX)
I just want another game with this much diverse gameplay
Reminder that that's not a black bodysuit she's wearing, but her actual skin.
Reminder that who the fuck even cares
Don't we all?