Shadowbringers

With TBN being virtually free, DRK is gonna be even more of a "stand in AoEs" job than it already is.

No thank you I like Lalafell.

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>kojicuck shitting on muh nakama faggots
He ain't that bad, in the end

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From what I've seen, GBR looks like a lot of fun and since I don't do cutting edge stuff (I'm in a shit timezone and its really impractical for me to find consistent statics) it sounds right up my ally. I do still have DRK at mid 50s so if I want to get them up to speed it shouldnt take that long.

so why was fray such an angsty little bitch?
and why do so many people here seem to like him?

It looks fun though you just spam that hard hitting skill 5 times.

>WAR
big hits=big damage
>DRK
mp/gauge management
>GNB
nobody knows for sure yet, but looks like long combo specialist a la DRG

begone, speedreader

we falllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

lol what tbn cost even more mp and is going to be harder to break

Why were you?

The only little bitch here is you.

>fray

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>1/3 of MP
>virtually free
Was there a change I missed somewhere?

If I wanted to unga bunga I would play war

Hancock is the ultimate weeb and I love him

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Ill just stick to big DPS WAR

TBN costs the same as Edge/Flow of Shadow and gives you a free use of either of them when it breaks. A 25% HP shield is easily broken by almost any AoE, especially if you put it on a squishy job like BLM.

hancock was a very consistently entertaining character

We do know they have a 3 move combo that can be upped to a 6 move combo (3 gcd, 3 ogcd) on a 35 second CD.

but
why not just use edge instead

yeah sorry. My WoL is not an angsty bitch on the inside since hes not in his teens anymore.
grow up.

I do like him overall but I'll never get over changing Knight to Paladin.

I'm trying to remember a specific situation where Hancock had basically teleported behind you with no warning just as he was needed

because
and i'm going to type this very slowly so you get it
yoooou geeeet a freeee shiiiieeeellddd

But the animation for the skill is better than fel cleave.

You don't get to say what WoL is or isn't.

>being angry ever means you're angsty
you have to go back

and if it does't break because mobs in dungeons do no damage you're fucked
they should have increased the duration to 15s to gnb shield

I'm really excited to play everything. Almost have my last job at 70, I'll have it there by the end of the week. Hopefully my DoH too but I'm lazy and only do Namazu quests and Custom Deliveries

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Sounds more like you're the realm's eternal cuck

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>they should have increased the duration to 15s to gnb shield
No they shouldn't have because it would've become a "use on CD" ability which is boring as fuck.

>DRK questline went completely over his head
Based 2-digit IQ retard

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I'm just gonna wait till ShB before I bother to level everything up. The exception being hand/land which are all 70 already.

come on now
i'm a drk main and even i can admit that bloodspiller is nowhere near as cool as fell cleave
fell cleave spam is carried by how well made the animation and audio for the skill is, you can really feel the weight, and the literal chainsaw noise is perfect
whereas bloodspiller is all WOOOSHYHSHAHSWOOOSH and you do some really weird spinning flip thing that admittedly looks kinda cool but also kinda retarded

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but why use the shield on someone else in the first place
rather than gambling on whether or not the shield breaks you can just use edge instead
if new DA made the next edge do more damage you'd have a point, but as it stands there isn't one

He's living the dream.
I wish I was in his place.
I like to think of my character as a massive ijin weeaboo faggot too.

One of the best NPCs introduced with SB and I'm gonna miss him in ShB.
They should make him teach you the grorious Hingan culture more.

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0-4 get the 100 tomestones for the useless earrings i'll never use
5-9 give up and buy the minions

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he absolutely is, boyo

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>that admittedly looks kinda cool
End of discussion.

get brachiosaur

Check the price for Baby Brachiosaur on your server before you go in for the tomestone purchase. The Magic Bucket can be gotten from fishing too, if you're 60+ on it.

already have it, only missing magic bucket, unicorn, calo

Making it eat a third of your MP isn't any better
It's also the reason you only have one other physical cooldown, compared to the other three tanks having like 4 each.

bucket then
And good job quitting this event is fucking gay.

less damage taken, by either the group or yourself, equals less healing required by the healer, equally more healer dps
also I really shouldn't have to point this out, but reducing your own incoming damage as a TANK is pretty fucking valuable
blue DPS meme has gotten out of hand

really cool > kinda cool

...

Why get the earrings? I just don't get it. Normal people use Emperor's 24/7 but even accessory fags should see it looks like shit, literally just meme earrings you'll wear for a bit and then forget about, wasting yet another eternal inventory slot. They offer absolutely NOTHING of value. On top of that is literally the most expensive item of the bunch.

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If WAR is the big hits = big damage I feel like GNB is more like fast hits = damage. Not big because the potencies are bad right now but that could always be fixed. The point is GNB is all about hitting stuff fast with its signature move being a 6 combo interlaced into 3 GCDs.

>15 Syrcus runs in and I've only seen one Amon piece
>I have more pieces from other sets than I have from the one I can roll Need on

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It's not even about dps, entire packs of dungeon trash can barely break my shields as-is, boss autos sure as shit won't, and the shield is going to be even STRONGER now.
Like yeah it's neat that I take 0 damage for a few seconds, but I can only do it like once per minute without dropping darkside because mp generation is so fucking slow

It's fun to collect exclusive things, user.

Sorry, man. Going GUN. Granted, DRK will still be my second favorite tank behind PLD, assuming GUN doesn't overtake it.

To wear in my Whisper-A-Go-Go

bet it smells fucking sweaty

Why would you play something if it's only third on your list?

Why can you buy rep mounts from the moogle tomestones? Are 2.0 reps going away?

It definitely looks pretty fun, unlocking day one for sure.
If DRK is getting as cucked as I think it is, I'll be going DRK>GNB>PLD unless my static has me swap roles.

theyre limited!

TBN (and every tank CD for that matter) shouldn't be used to tank auto-attacks unless you're disrespecting the dungeon content and have a shitload of mobs wailing on you.

I was about to cherry pick a post from there right now but seems I don't fucking have to because THIS is their OP. Literally the 2 images posted after that speak for themselves too.
Go fuck yourself.

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I'm one of those mentally damaged people that enjoys almost every class. I think if there was a class I'd have to say I actually disliked leveling, it was White Mage.

If you could at the very least put them in armoire or if they were a bit cheaper I might have considered it but it is none of the above.

the fujotrash ruined vg even more than the trannies

I do, faggot. DRK questchain was so shit, I consider it non-canon.

>wahh wahh wahh, why do you people always need help. Im so much better than you.
sounds like a little bitch and not like my WoL.

GNB animations look really cool. I especially enjoy the moves that use cartridge and then you get these explosions along the cut line.

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I enjoy playing everything too, but I more meant why would you main something if it isn't your favorite?

You get a free hit off that Bloodspiller pipe.

Someone mentioned in a previous thread that it may be possible to switch from UI to AF using flare since at three UI/AF stacks spells of the opposing element cost 0mp. It's probably possible, but I don't think it's worthwhile because flare will still eat umbral hearts. The enhanced umbral hearts tooltip mentions that casting flare immediately ends the umbral hearts status, and I don't think it factors in whether or not it reduced flare's mp cost beforehand. In the end, switching from UI to AF using flare will still mean you'll get to use two flares, but the one used to switch will be weaker since it's not under the effect of AF and doesn't get the damage bonus.

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Militant gays were a mistake.

Why couldnt fire v be real

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what did they mean by this?

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Stay on your containment board, fag.

>I consider it non-canon.
Good thing you're not the judge of what's canon or not, then.

>the one that hits a shit ton of times and ends with a diagonal cut explosion

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>go in as another role for a change of pace
>every amon piece drops in succession
>there are 3 bards in my party
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

is it too late for me to look for a 5.0 static?

they really did an amazing job with GUN. It looks cool as fuck. here's hoping those doom posts won't become a reality but even so I'll still pick it up asap.

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next expac will be healer and another ranged physical

Their OPs have been getting gayer and gayer, from fujoshit to trap lalas

We can't have tier V spells. Even though in the english localization we just use roman numerals, other languages use the -ra,-ga-ja system, and there's no proper suffix for tier V. It would've been kinda cool if despair was meltdown instead, but I'm ok with what we got.

The point I'm making is that it's currently way too expensive and mp regen is way too slow to use TBN on anything but a tank buster, and even then it's just a poor man's Thrill of Battle. Also, since other tanks DON'T have a tbn, tank busters won't be frequent enough for tbn to be worth using, they'll be a minimum of 90s apart like always.

kek the mechanic on it is awful

>new healer
no healer until we balance three other healers first
prease understand

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There's some stiff competition out there for the amon set recently. My alliance roulette earlier had 11 bards/machinists of 15 total dps in the group.

despair is just a fire 5 anw in all but name

>Disrespecting the dungeon
Jesus fucking christ

Oh, my bad. I meant PLD is my favorite tank, with DRK in second behind it. If GUN goes well, it will overtake PLD as my favorite.

>since other tanks DON'T have a tbn
but they do now and theyre freeeee
raw and heart of stone

yes I am. Since you dont have to do the job quests, they are not canon.
thank god. already bad enough that I was baited into this shit show of a quest line and wasted my time leveling this bore of a tank job.

>mfw lalafell wont get to see any of that

>PLEASE RESPECT THE CONTENT

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Kingdom Hearts uses -Za suffix for the tier 5 spells. Just use those.

MP is only useful for using Edge/Flow of Darkness user. You SHOULD use TBN everytime you're sure it will break and that happens very frequently in any kind of savage content, and not just from tankbusters.

Well, no. It functionally acts like flare does. It's a single target flare.

isn't there a ZA suffix?

>syphon went from 1200 mp to 600

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It's a fire spell that deals more damage than fire 4 and has a different gimmick to it. It could just as well have been called fire 5. People would be saying "fire 5 is just ST flare" which is fine.

>atma's are supposed to have a 25% drop rate
>do 4 fates and don't get one even though this should be statistically impossible

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Is this our Abyssea? One of the big downfalls of XI was the expansion that took players off the world map completely and took them to the new Abyssea zones. This left the normal city states barren of players. I know technically places like Ishgard, Doma and Ala Mhigo are walled off to newer players, but the MSQ, Sidequests, hunts and everything else all brought us back to the 2.0 areas, keeping them populated. Travelling to The First seems way more exotic than any of the Expansion city states. I doubt that ShB will require us to go back to Gridania halfway through our journey in The First.

I just get the feeling that the majority of the player base is about to fuck off to a new world and leave Eorzea as a barren wasteland that new players don’t feel comfortable in.

post yfw diversion is gone

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>he doesn't have all atma and zeta
What is this 2015

That's not what statistically impossible means

is pizza a tier 5 spell?

Doesn't really bother me since I never used it. Seemed like a waste of hotbar space.

yoshi
there is nothing left BUT balance
you took away everything else

Flare has always had a distinction in FF games, by having a name that wasnt just fir-, usually not even actually a fire spell either.
They're wanting to keep this distinction with the single target one.

shadewalker is gone
b-but single pulling slow tanks

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Its just a new zone like doma and ala mhigo. It's more disconnected lore wise but ingame it's literally no different than those.

I play on Balmung so this won't happen to my server.

Don't worry, you don't use mana for anything but two moves now anyway!

What are the best necklaces for a witch glam

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tfw they cut duality and shadewalker and NIN now goes six levels (54-62) without gaining a new ability

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Threat management reduced to retard levels like in WoW.
Literally just toggle (tank stance) and nobody will ever steal the tank's aggro.

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gee you mean tanks have to tank now?

i want to pull aggro off shitty tanks

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Better than depending on dps to help you out with diversion otherwise things spiral out of control. Not saying this was you as a tank, but we both know a lot of them were like this. Warriors especially always wanting to dps.

>Tanks now have to play their role
>We'll never have to discuss diversion ever again
It almost makes gutting the fun out of healers a fair trade.

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Threat management was already a joke aside from agro wipes.

*aggro stance
They literally don't. All the have to do is press 1 button at the start of the fight and that's pretty much it.

Never used it anyway.

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>>Tanks now have to play their role
By doing DPS rotations lol

thats literally how it already was in raids because of shirk
dungeons with dumb tanks who dont priorities aoe will still go exactly the same as they normally did (random mobs breaking off and beating the shit out of a dps/healer), because threat generation isn't being increased and most dungeon tanks are tanking stance heroes

honestly about 95% sure that people complaining about the threat "changes" do not play tanks

Since titan-egi is no longer a tank summon, is anyone ever going to use it or will people still just stick with garuda and ifrit?

tfw all the retarded tanks that pull with provoke won

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>just realized after 2 expansions that healing abilities don't benefit from increased healing

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>playing optimal is bad now because it means the brainlet dps has to press "1" additional button.

I just hope they stick a few things in the old zones. Heavensward had us revisiting Ul’Dah for the Nanamo questline and every MSQ from 3.4 onwards. Stormblood made Mor Dhona the central hub of most post-expansion quests.

Maybe the opposite will happen. Once we’ve rescued the First in the Expansion MSQ, we’ll never need to go back there and by patch 5.3, the Expansion areas will be dead.

a necessary evil sadly, the vast majority of people don't know or care how threat works, they just want to dps

it took me a fucking scary amount of time to realise this myself

Yup, all 12 of them
Fucking bastards

so the same as now minus the bullshit formalities

yeah the constant stop start going back and forth to uldah for the most disappointing denouement to the whole banquet situation was certainly not the highlight of heavensward

On the one hand I wish they would change that because of how much all three healing jobs' toolkits are getting dependent on oGCD abilities. But at the same time, oGCDs on healers are already overpowered as they are, and making healing buffs affect them would just spiral things out of control.

never played tank at max level. how do tanks keep their aggro in dps stance 100% of the time while the dps is wrecking the shit out of the boss? (specially in the opener)

>BLM can't mana shift or Apoc anymore
BLM even greedier now.
Still gonna play it.

-za is tier 4 in Kingdom hearts aside from KH1 where it was -gun

what is yoshi laughing about?

What does then?

We have addle.
I've never used it. Never will.

>mfw having to level again soon

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Aggro dumping in tank stance then swapping and not doing trash DPS
Bonus points if the braindead DPS hit Diversion so you could remain in DPS stance longer

ideally a nin uses shadewalker on the tank, the ot shirks, and the rest of the dps use diversion

with this level of threat manipulation the main tank can start in dps stance and maintain aggro

>I can't do my job so you better help me out or everything catches on fire
I use both diversion and lucid by the way. I just think it's ridiculous how tanks need my help in order to tank.

>armor crush
>assassinate (moved to 60)
>hellfrog still at 62 (where the fuck did you hear it wasn't)
>dream within a dream at 56
user are you okay

Healing spells

Reduce potencies of all off-GCD heals but make them benefit from increased healing
Two birds with one stone

oGCD healing is already too important for the game, they cant nerf or get rid of it now unless we were willing to have a massive uprising of the healer role community

typically you open with 1-2 threat combos
in dungeons thats usually enough to hold aggro until the boss is dead, but if you need to throw in a threat combo now and then you do
in raids it is a different story. you can bounce the role ability shirk between the two tanks for literally unlimited threat.

>never used it
signs of a shitter, addle is terrific during prog against raid wide magical busters like Ion or Light

In literally all savage fight for the entire SB expansion, you are in tank stance for like half a tank rotation, so 10 seconds of the fight.

You stay dps stance for the entire rest of the fight.

On warrior for example you dont even need to do the enmity combo even once to maintain aggro, you literally start out with the storms eye combo.

Zero problems to keep aggro with diversion and shirk.

I wasn't a fan of DRK in Stormblood, and Shadowbringer doesn't really sound all that much fun to me. GNB sounds like it's gonna be really fun though, pretty much what I expected them to do going from HW DRK to SB DRK instead of what they actually did. I'll max DRK first in MSQ then GNB. I hope I'm wrong though and DRK is super fun, I just don't see it.

Isn't that what he just said doesn't benefit?

leveling is fun
having to do fates for maps and mats won't be

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abilities and spells are two distinct things

>I wasn't a fan of DRK in Stormblood
who was desu

Energy Drain/Siphon is SMN Aetherflow, which is on a 30s cooldown, so you have 4 aetherflow per minute now. It's only used on Fester and Painflare (Bane is a free 10s cooldown). On top of that, Lucid Dreaming is only 60s now so MP should be the least of anyone's problems.

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Weapon skills and spells = GCD
Abilities = oGCD

It was during the Ivalice stuff. I think it was a side-quest or whatnot and you were messing with wine. He pops up in Aleport out of nowhere with the answer.

But I'll start with GNB which means that I have to slog through 60-70 first before even getting to new content...

>mfw remembering I'll have to go hunting for aether currents again
>mfw the size of these fucking zones

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Abilities like tetragrammaton, lustrate, essential dignity, and the like do not.
Cure, succor, benefic, regen, and the like do. They are spells.

Hell yeah I'm popping every buff I have for whenever that part of the song happens.

fates COULD be fun
if they'd just make more interesting fucking fates other than
>kill a bunch of monsters
>kill one big monster
>kill a bunch of monsters, automatically loot some dumb item that you then turn into an npc
>escort some retard (awful)
give us something crazy man, i want an item collection fate that has a jumping puzzle in it or some shit

>wine

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I just got into FFXIV, it's pretty fun. Lvl 29 gladiator atm, I think I'm going to get Shadowbringers and level from 50-60 as a paladin before switching to Gunbreaker. After that, I'll do Stormblood and proceed to the new expansion. Don't think its worth dishing out money for the expansions since I'll get them in 3-4 weeks with SB

>He doesn't enjoy exploring the map on the ground

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Provoke has more range than Shield Lob AND is ogcd so it can be used as a tool to pull packs idiot. This has already been said a gorrillion times by now.
The tanks that did won however are the unironic WoWfugees that use Provoke on cd because they think it's just like "Taunt" in WoW which generates a fuckton of aggro and is moslty used on cd.

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>talking about dungeons cd usage
Is there any reason not use free mitigation when pulling trash. Even if you are completely respectin said content and only pulling one pack at a time.
Have you ever actually paid while playing this game? Dungeon trash hits harder than dungeon bosses.

glasses are shitty and gay and they're double shitty and double gay on tanks

Egi-Action 1 gives a 20% Shield. So it'll be useful as something you do on a pre-pull before a boss, or during a boss' Invul phase. Even a panic desperation move if you fuck up and your healer cant reach you. It's clearly a gimmick, but it'll come in handy.

I like it with most zones, but both expansions have that one fucking zone that's awful about it. Churning Mists in HS and Lochs in Stormblood were a chore and a fucking half

Brainlet here. You are talking about stuff like Largesse and Convalescence?

Command Missions suck as a Tank. Why is the Healer so shit? I feel like if I can learn in here I can Tank anywhere at this point.

unless it's like early HW where Yoshi-P wanted you to respect the content and you could only pull like mobs of 3 at a time and mitgation doesn't even do anything

He's talking about DRK syphon strike afaik.

I meant the tanks that pull bosses with provoke then do their 1-2-3 gcds IDIOT

Some people according to this site and people in game do enjoy it. I just doubt those people play DRK that much, once you do like your 10000th soul eater there's no way you can still be having fun. I'm just not sure how ShB DRK is going to be much more fun. Like blood weapon doesn't even let us go faster now. And the blood weapon + delirium phase is easily the most fun part of drk right now.

What is raw intuition, what is sheltron
user please stop discussing tank things

27 DAYS UNTIL YOU FALL

youtube.com/watch?v=5h3U1tV_kBs

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Yeah, anything that buffs healing potency.
Not sure if Defiance counts since it buffs healing you receive.

it's still mainly for solo content since on paper it's just a weaker Ifrit Egi except for the shielding HP part for Egi Assault 1. On the flipside, Garuda is now 100% consolidated to AoE and only AoE now.

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>BLM sacrificing their dps for support unless the stars align
>taking a BLM during prog in the first place

sounds shit. but same goes for everything related to DRK so it fits.

most healing increase abilities increase only SPELL-based healing spells. so abilities (oGCDs like Indomitability, Assize and Earthly Star) dont benefit from that at all

The lochs are great though. Having to go through that tomb and come out in the royal hunting grounds for one aether current wasfantastic.

WE FALL
WE FALL
WE FALL
WE FALL
WE FALL (we faaaalllll)
WE FALL (we faaaalllll)
WE FALL (we faaaalllll)

Best fucking lyrics.

>Level 80 trial might have the trailer version of this theme
Fucking damn it, Soken, I need it NOW.

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Don't you have little boys to molest light cuck?

Holy shit they removed garudas knockback out. Thank fuck for that.

WE FALL

>smoothbrain still mad his WoL canonically has feelings

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they also removed mch's knockback
fucking thank god

guys i miss low blow procs and the old delirium animation

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your WoL might by an angsty little bitch. not mine.

god fucking damn it, we have kino like that and youtube.com/watch?v=HQZZqvBjpjg
but at the same time we get trash like youtube.com/watch?v=8cybC-bSw2U
It sounds so fucking out of place, like at 0:45 in youtube.com/watch?v=HQZZqvBjpjg

I want to see the level 60 gear gnb and dancer will start with

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Same happened with SB and Doma and 2.x areas were fine. We'll also be able to teleport anywhere, any time, unlike in Abyssea or BC.

The battle theme sounds like it would fit better as Dungeon Boss 1 and 2 theme. It's going to get annoying fast in the open world playing for 10 seconds then fading away over and over.

I heard the Heavensward battle theme today and got mad nostalgia. This is really eh by comparison.

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Is garudas third move and ultimate not better in any situation though?

>low blow procs
I genuinely don't remember what that looked like, and I played DRK in HW
>old delrium animation
aren't they keeping it the same between SB and ShB? or is there an OLD old delirium
I literally have almost no memory of anything relating to HW DRK, Dark arts has burned it all from my mind

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t. C'uckri Tia, Fetcher of the Realm

dont you have to cut yourself and blame other for your failings, darkcuck?

I don't think that's the battle theme is it? The battle theme is the one that starts playing when you engage a mob. From videos it seems to be that guitar one from the GNB reveal video.

>internet tough guy in an mmo
That's a whole new level of special.

>hotspring at 2.11

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>REEEEEEEEEEEEE why is my 1-dimensional headcanon not real?

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Why is Scott the best FFXIV content creator right now?

sorry, but thats what you get for having DRK as the poster boy. at least its just a filler story and nothing too relevant.

I genuinely don't remember what that looked like, and I played DRK in HW
Same here. I don't even know what it is. As far as I know it was just a stun move like it is now?

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>blaming others
what a pld thing to do

Bros I can't take it anymore, I just want to play the new jobs to the point where I can't bring myself to do any of the content left that I need to do as any of the jobs already in the game

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>do my first big boss mission against ifirit
>Realize that the cutscene is getting a bit long so I skip it
>3 of the party members shit talking me for trying to enjoy the story

IM SORRY I PLAY RPGS FOR THE STORY YOU FUCKING FURRY FAGGOTS

I FUCKING HATE PARTY QUESTS

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Delirium was another combo finisher, it reduced magic damage of target iirc.

but the normal battle theme is gnb trash, not drk

From now on watch every cutscene in its entirety. Make them suffer.

I remember playing DRG in ARR and pissing the fuck out of everyone because I'd use leg sweep as an oGCD damage skill whenever I didn't have any other oGCD to use.

Good times.

>you have to be an angsty bitch to not be one dimensional
I always wondered what kind of people liked characters like sasuke. guess DRK players are the same kinda people.

I legitimately don't believe you.

how are you trying to enjoy the story if you're skipping the cutscenes? I dont follow

They really have no right to bitch when they're getting tomestones or EXP for doing literally nothing

Fuck those guys, as a person who's played for 5 years I enjoy the time at the start just chilling while people watch cutscenes, take as long as you need senpai

Just watch the cutscene. If someone starts cussing you out for not ruining your first timer experience, report them for harassment.
Fuck all whiny niggers who think ruining their experience means they get to try ruining everyone elses

They can't touch you. As long as you don't say a word or do an emote they ain't got shit on you. You can even report them and you bet they'll get a free trip to the goal.

old DRK kino

youtube.com/watch?v=lrxzr_JUd4A

It is, but think of how much damage Ifrit auto attack does constantly compared to Garuda

I watch the cutscenes all the time just to spite those faggots.

>trying
There's your answer.

Both low blow and reprisal used to do damage for one, and they used to come off cooldown when you would parry. Delirium was the other combo ender off syphon strike, it had no dark arts potency gain and was a -10% INT debuff. We also had dark dance a parry chance increaser, could use blood price without grit, blood price itself was much better, dark side could fall off, we could dark arts dark mind and dark dance, dark passenger (RIP) was cheaper and stronger, then we had scourge a non combo'd GCD DOT.

You shouldn't have skipped it t b h, I just tab out, rather wait 5mins than do a 30mins dungeons with shitters

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thats the reason why battle theme is good and "boss theme" sucks monkey balls. just compare it to the SB boss theme.

You don't owe them anything. Feel free to watch cutscenes in all content.

I want to level up my crafters/gatherers for Ishgard stuff but level 50 and beyond is such a roadblock for me. I feel like I'm severely undergeared but gear and tools are so hard to craft now. Got any tips please?

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Why is FFXIV the only FF with blatant reddit characters?

>He still insists that DRK questline was about being an angsty bitch
I get it, you are an underage dumbass but god damn, even speedreaders have better reading comprehension. Stay mad, faggot, your headcanon will never be true.

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I for one welcome the new healer changes

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No of course, it just seems weird that they made the ultimate and third skill 100+ potency each.

Where are my fellow Lalafell enthusiasts at?
Just imagine having a cute Lalafell lass bouncing on your lap

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Dumb WoWfugee. There's no suffix for tier 5 spells.

>battle theme is good and "boss theme" sucks monkey balls
but its the opposite

Buy shit. You can get better tools with company seals, get to 51 through daily deliveries/level 50 leves and then buy crafting and gathering shit with gil in ishgard.

I'd rather be the lalafell girl but yeah I'm here.

Exploring everything the first time was unironically the best thing about the game.

Garuda for most part is still used only for Trash pulls in dungeons until 3 enemies or less remain then switched to Ifrit.

strawpoll.me/18096810

Well, Yea Forums?

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>and they used to come off cooldown when you would parry
Reading all of this really makes me understand why so many people keep saying HW drk was the best.

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depends on if summoning is still on GCD and has a cooldown, could be potentialy worth quickswapping to garuda, dumping skill 3/ult, then swapping back
Assuming potencies stay the same which they probably won't

Oh look, another idiot who didn't understand the CNJ questline at all. End yourself.

I'm imagining punting it off the Brume

Ok thanks. I'm dirt poor but I should be able to figure something out. Is there something I can gather/craft at that level that could net me some easy gil for buying gear?

Reminder that bringing BLM to prog was super common in ARR and HW, and several world firsts were done with one on the team.

Shit bro, you that stupid to realize the DRK quests were about the WoL's PTSD? Not that I know anything about that.

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Imagine playing a lalafell and missing all the cool new GNB animations.

It really was something else, a whole lot of fun. I wish everyday I could go back and play it.

Thanks for explaining to him, bro. Sick DPS and Healing by the way.

Both of which are way more valuable because they actually persist and don't cost resources. If Raw cost you a Fell Cleave WARs would be foaming at the mouth.

Honestly if it didn't fall off after 7s, if it were aoe, or if MP were easier to come by, I wouldn't care.
>C&S only gives 600 mp
>Syphon Strike only gives 600 mp
>Blood Weapon grants maximum of 3000 mp once per minute because it doesn't work on autos any more
>new Delirium grants a maximum of 3000 mp once per 90s
>no Blood Price
>no Delirium-equivalent mp tool
>no other way to get mp back
>takes either 38s or a cooldown to use your primary defensive tool, a one-time heal that reverts itself after 7s
The strength of TBN was that it was a short cooldown that was easy to access because of Grit's Syphon interaction. Now? Not so much.

Meanwhile, in PLD town:
>here have three (3) fuckin THREE bloodspillers that restore mp every basic combo
>also Riot Blade restores mp
>also you only need mp to do dps for 10s rather than all the time
>Sheltron only costs gauge and blocks for 6s
>Passage still exists
>Intervention still exists
>Veil still exists

10sec recast but instant cast time, Maybe not worth it but unsure.

Huh. So you could pull out titan, get your shield, and swap right back. That sounds kinda alright, more summoner-ish than what we've had so far. Making ifrit single target and garuda aoe is alright too, but that still means you'll have one or the other out for pulls and boss fights rather than swapping around mid-combat. Guess that's what demi-summons are for.

>He thinks anyone remembers CNJ or WHM at all outside of that screenshot and Raya-O's panties

*waddles to you*

more windows for comic relief and characters that seem human due to how long the game is

*pats your head*

They dont "need" help

It just makes the fight easier for everyone involved if it dies faster.
How cant brainlets grasp this.
That you actually use their complete rotation with diversion included does not make you special or make you deserve a pat on the back. It just means you are not retarded.

Not pressing diversion and lucid is literally playing your class wrong its not "helping", thats like me saying im helping the party by pressing buttons at all, i mean i sure dont need to.

probably not then
ifrit will probably get his buffed anyway if hes meant to be the single target choice

A slightly weaker cd that costs nothing and a slightly stronger cd that pulls from your defensive resource that isn't used for anything else.

haha how is PTSD even real nigga like just get over it, don't be an angsty little bitch and just man up haha

I suppose the math would be how many attacks ifrit is losing not being there+having to walk back to boss vs garuda's damage from ult+dot (and whatever else she happens to do like her own autos)
little much for me and even seeing that I'd go simple brain and ifrit on single, garuda on multi

>characters I don't like = reddit

Made a Lala BLM alt
There's just something so satisfying about dropping a leylines, along with everyone giving you their buffs and having the raw power flow through such a small body

>daily roulettes have had more and more "DPS needed" the past few weeks
>start playing this morning
>trials, alliance raids, leveling, and normal raids all need dps

What going on?

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wtf it worked

>2deep4u :)

Got a problem with that, Koji?

So when is WoL gonna fuck someone?

We know Bahamut/Pheonix only uses his wyrmwave auto skill during our spells not abilities also, but I want to know if he'll still not do it if we're moving at the same time.

Imagine a Lalafell girl bouncing on your cock

heh, experience this raw power *unsheathes dick*

Everyone is practicing tanking for their Squall cosplays in 5.0.

Do you have one?

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when you find an eb

No one wants to play Tanks anymore because they are just Blue DPS with an enmity switch but now their combos are even more basic.

Healers don't get to be Green DPS as they have a single skill for damage pretty much and too many healing skills.

god i wish i was her

L-lewd

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me too

scholars are mad because its less buttons but in an actual fight most of the complicated stuff you do is oGCD healing and management. taking the dps stuff away is barely scratching the surface of our kit

Lalafells only exist to be used as baits when hunting

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Tank combos are literally exactly the same, and everyone that was any good already played them as blue DPS

I'm just getting in the lore
From what I can tell Elezen are basically the White power race right?

Humans are like the mongoloid invaders
Giants and Cat men are literally niggers
And dragons are ????

>too simple
this game needed streamlining.
yea i know a bunch of retards are now gonna tell me >hurr durr too stupid to press buttons because they don't understand that it was a design issue.

Yeah, I got a problem with imbeciles like you taking words and definitions and running them into the ground to the point that it becomes impossible to carry on a conversation.

Dragons are space aliens

If you want actual reddit characters take a look at the cast of Guild Wars 2.

Dragons or au ra? Au ra are just asians

I want to see Viera's Hempen gear.

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please tell me which characters are reddit
i need to understand your thought process

As a SCH main, it just means I'll be switching to SMN for msq and solo content. The other healers however lost tons of their DPS skills, and I can't imagine playing through solo content with them.

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>tfw I casually greeded the chestpiece

Sadly I started playing last year so I didn't know about the magnificence of Lalafell until then.

forced "haha so funny" characters
Godbert's son for example.

WHM lost one (1) DoT, and AST lost that one card, I wouldn't say that's tons of their dps skills

I love this dog

>They dont "need" help
Oh but they do. Prove of it is how they lose aggro whenever I'm in PF and some RDM doesn't diversion on pull.

>Hildibrand
>Forced

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raen are soulless koreans and xaela are mongolian savages

I may be retarded but I don't understand these, I know the top two become bottom two at 74 and one is AoE and one is Single Target.
You start off with no Darkside, and to get Darkside you use one of the skills? Then you get a Darkside buff of 30 then you can use the skill again and buff can reach max of 60, but what is the purpose of the Darkside buff if you can use these skills without needing Darkside?

Or is The Blackest Knight needed to have shield break for Dark Arts? But there is no mention of what Dark Arts is outside of that skill. Please help a retard out.

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I thought every healer now only had one DOT and one/two DPS attacks?

>Don't like Japanese slapstick comedy
>Call it reddit
You can not like something without sperging out like a child. Next you'll say Monty Python is reddit because it's widely liked there. Or Downtown, for that matter.
>haha he did it bad and got spanked on the botty again how reddit

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This is cool but it doesn't really sound like a boss theme

more like something you would hear leading into a boss theme

Isn't darkside just a raw 20% damage up? Sounds like a purpose in itself.

>dude lmao isn't this new dance so funny?

I'm not even that guy who called it reddit, I just understand what he means

it's to keep dps up, you could go full retard and just spam them for the dps they put out, if you didn't care about tbn at all
dark arts only makes it so those abilities don't cost mp

Correct, but beside Stone/Aero/Holy equivalents, WHM has Assize and the new 900 potency nuke and AST has Earthly Star
SCH is the one who went from most dps skills to least now that even energy drain is gone.

>White Mage shifting from elemental based magic to Holy/Light based attacks
>No job quests or lore to explain why
Why did they stop doing that for abilities?

The new dance is great, motherfucker.

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Then what's the point of a Darkside buff duration if you can use the skills without Darkside.

The whole point of the new Dark Arts upon breaking the shield is so you can use The Blackest Night without losing out on dps/threat, because you get a free Edge/Flood as a result.

TBN also costs 3000 MP.

After being gone for literally months, I resubbed because I was really interested in playing Shadowbringers and just investing a LOT of my spare time into FFXIV. But, I couldnt, I wasn't able to even do the post Stormblood MSQ Quests and I decided to try leveling a job next, went into POTD and wanted to get some easy levels on Ninja, It was kinda fun and a much faster pace than my WAR which is the only job I've played but after a while I just got bored and logged off.

I don't know what the fuck it is but I can't for the life of me latch onto the game like I did when I was clearing Heavensward MSQ. Do I force myself through it anyways? I was absolutely latched onto the game and addicted before but something about it (probably finishing the MSQ?) Isn't sitting right with me, I've never done raid content, savage, extreme, whatever those higher difficulties is, I don't have my genesis gear but I don't like the idea of farming for it either.
I'm genuinely open to being convinced otherwise and maybe being point in the right direction because I feel like I have no real end goal.

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my WoL has no PTSD so this makes no sense.

because they keep darkside up/build it in the first place, making everything else you do deal more damage

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You want the skills to need darkside? They are the ones that give you darkside. If they need darkside how will you even get it in the first place?

MMOs aren't for you

was soken high when he made that battle theme? I know he's capable of much better

Don't bother farming for gear. Buy crafted stuff and turn it in for higher ilvl shit if you can afford it, or look at what gear you can get at the moment and see if any of it looks nice. Try and acquire it.
Just play a bit at a time when you feel up to it, don't feel obligated to blast through it in a week. You've got just under a month until 5.0, which is plenty of time if all you do is the MSQ.

>but muh my headcanon
DRK story is great solely because it will never stop making self-insert retards seethe.

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So what i'm understanding is you need to have your first TBN break to even have access to using them skills then you have to keep using them enough so that the buff doesn't wear off so you can keep using them?

youtube.com/watch?v=6iDTaV8jTSs

>lol let me just remix Tchaikovsky's Sugar Plum Fairy with Uematsu's Clash on the Big Bridge

Still don't see why the wol would cry over the heavensward or garleans

No, you can use them without TBN breaking. TBN breaking gives you Dark Arts, which makes the next Edge/Flood cost no MP. Otherwise they just cost 3K MP.

also I guess I can't find it covered anywhere but what does the Evergale effect do from Garuda-Egi's Slipstream? is it just a dot?

no you fucking idiot, tbn is a lv 70 skill
THINK NIGGA, THINK

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WE FALL

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If there wasn't tbn at all it wouldn't affect the abilities. the only benefit tbn has is that you can use it for defense and not have the mp be "wasted" on it.
i don't think i'm wrong here but your first fucking thing you would even touch in combat would be getting darkside up by pressing one of the two abilities.

What is the purpose of Darkside buff then if you can use those "Darkside" skills without neeing Darkside? How do you activate Darkside?
I told you i'm a fucking retarded. I don't understand the need for a buff.
What does the buff do though?

Basically
Darkside = damage buff
Dark Arts = allows one free use of Edge of Shadow/Flood of Shadow
When you use Edge/Flood of Shadow, you get the Darkside buff for 30 seconds, you can stack it up to 60 seconds
When TBN breaks it triggers Dark Arts

Delirium is now a diet Inner Release
Prease rook forward to it

>PLEASE RESPECT THE CONTENT
i always wondered whats the origin of this?

Oh my fucking god. This has to be bait at this point.

i want to physically strike you

Why can I find no tooltips Darkside buff? How much damage increase?

>glamour dresser space and number of glamour plates being doubled soon
God bless

>2.50 gcd drk

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This is why Yoshi made Castrum and Preatorium scenes mandatory

>doubled soon
Source?

You know what, I'll give you that one. Zephirin's appearance didn't really make sense if the theme was supposed to be "Look at all these people we end up hurting"

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if it's anything like current darkside, it gives you 20% more damage.
those abilities put it up and make it last longer.

Are plates being doubled?
I'd love it but I have doubts.

You activate Darkside by using Edge or Flood. It increases your damage dealt. It's simple, you're thinking too much about it, it doesn't do anything more than advertised.

You're hung up over the fact that it's now a timed buff and not a permanent toggle, but that's ltierally the only thing that changes: your toggle is no longer a toggle but a single or aoe ability that activates or extends it and is thus aprt of your rotation.

It's still shit and won't fit all the Lv.1 Glamour gear that can't fit in the NPC or Armoire.
IT'S NOT EVEN 400 INVENTORY PER SLOT, IT'S TOTAL. FUCKING USELESS.

Polygon interview

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>Haurchefant

>Scions massacred in 2.0, WoL survives
>Haurchefant and Ysale sacrifice themselves so the WoL survives
>Kills the Heavensward and Thordan who had good intentions but were corrupted by power
>Garlean forces are mostly made up of conscripts from subjugated territories, and make up the bulk of the WoL's kills
>Kills Ala Mhigan resistance fighters who just want to see their homeland liberated because they sided with the wrong man, many of them looked up to the WoL as a hero
dude what do you mean survivors guilt and heavy conscience i'm a tough cookie

but its not canon since its optional.
also, nowhere is it stated that WoL has PTSD.
Cant speak for the meme english localisation since I dont have to suffer through this pile of shit.

Okay, I guess because when looking at all tooltips on gamerescape it has no mention of what Darkside buff gives, so unless you know what Darkside did currently it would be confusing. No where on this image showed the buff damage, just how to extend duration.

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he's specifically digging up people who hurt us. The Heavensward killed Haurchefant, Livia killed a shitload of Scions.
If anything I don't get why the Warriors of Darkness are there, they became rather sympathetic by their end.

New DRK changes do nothing to address the complaints anyone had with the job.
EoS/EoD just replaced dark arts but they'll feel the same in gameplay
You still only have one combo
They tried to make bloodspiller into fell cleave but people will see right through it that they're just lazily copying WAR once the game actually comes out
Living Shadow is just a DoT with a fancy animation

Newfriend here, why is the global cooldown so fucking slow?

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This doesn't say the number of plates is being doubled. It's very specific about the dresser being doubled, but when it comes to plates it just says "also be increased" which is unspecific about quantity. You lied.

why does the elemental armor look for Dark knight than the AF 3 does?

Play Classic WoW

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oh i was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you just have shit opinions but from
>nowhere is it stated that WoL has PTSD
i can just tell you have autism since you don't understand what things actually mean.

Then go play something else. I'm excited to try DRK in ShB.

they had to buff holmgang user you gotta understand

I feel like it's going to be increased by 5. Which should be enough for every job if you don't make a plate for NIN and DRG and simply visit the dresser to reglam.

I think the only thing even suggesting that is when Fordola is forced to experience your memories by her uncontrollable Echo, she's flabbergasted that you still continue doing what you do.

meld skill speed

Once you get deeper into the game you get ogcds that you weave in between gcds

Sup Yea Forums, just started out as a wowfugee. Shit's fun so far, but is there really just like half a dozen abilities for each class or am I reading the spellbook wrong?

Myste literally is a manifestation of the WoL's survivor's guilt. Even his appearance is an amalgamation of Haurchefant and Ysayle.

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All of you lalashit pedophiles ITT are gonna get carved and spat on real soon.

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Garuda's EA2 is a 220p dot over 30s compared to Ifrit's 110 instant hit, and her enkindle is 50p stronger too. conversely, Ifrit's EA1 and autos are stronger in singletarget than Garuda's, so you'll have Ifrit out in single target, and every 30s you will swap to G, EA2, enkindle, swap back to Ifrit

Class abilities + job abilities + role abilities.

Sidurgu wouldn't care because Lalafells are consenting adults.

Oh man I forgot about that.

The minimum accepted number of plates is 1 for every job in the game including hand and land. How many is that? 25 ish? Any number of plates under that is shit.

Depends on the job, also at level 30 you unlock jobs which are upgrades to you class and they have additional skills and abilities

Also btw is it frowned upon to just main one class all the way to endgame or should I juggle between them and level up every so often?

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>implying I care about any of these people
I only do quests for the free food they give me

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nice

Lalafell for Lalalife. Stay mad.

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considering you aren't required to level up other classes to get your full job kit anymore, no, play whatever the fuck you want.

My negro

Aren't jobs just extensions of the class? Why not just have them as one universal class?

Exploiting children that do not even understand what is happening and adults that look like fucking midget potato sacks are two different things entirely.

You unlock a job skill list once you hit 30 and get a jobstone for your class.
It's actually the best way to level other jobs, since if you have 1 max level job, other jobs will level faster, so stick to whatever you like.

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They're not. Media tour build had 15 plates at least.

It's only a problem in the early game, later on you have more APM than a lot of other MMOs.

There definitely isn't that few, but sometimes you get traits instead which are like WoW passives. Sometimes they're a minor "increases damage" and others they're a complete change of how the class/job plays.
Also at 30 you can unlock a job which reveals a whole second half of abilities.

Remnant of an old system.

it's a relic of 1.0, and from a storytelling perspective.

Classes are things anyone can do while Jobs are a bit more than that. Anyone can be a Conjurer but not just anyone can be a White mage.

I'm sorry that you are unhappy.

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It's a legacy from an old system they envisioned where a class would branch into multiple job. The only one that does this is Arcanist, which goes into Summoner and Scholar, which are level-linked as a result.

They can't unfuck it anymore at this stage so it stays.

It used to be you had to get your base class to 30 and a sub class to 15 to unlock your job.
This proved too much work for refugees so now you just have to level the base class.

Don't post gayfur.

Sorry, sorry.

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What do XIVfriends honestly think of WoW and the current direction it's going in?

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so you have no source to back your claims up?
got it. so the DRK quest is still about fray being a whiny little bitch.

there's also alcohol bottles spawned about everywhere inside your room at the inn in Ishgard

WoW hasn't been going in a good direction for a good while. Classic is their last chance not to sink and they're still failing at it.

Juggling between multiple jobs for casual content at end game can help prevent burnout. I'm not one of those people who have every job at 70, but I also have a tank, healer and dps levelled so I can fill a role as necessary if I group up with someone who only plays/has one job.

>What do XIVfriends honestly think of WoW and the current direction it's going in?
I can't believe I played WoW for 13 years for it to turn into this steaming pile of stupidity.

I'm glad im fully invested in XIV now.

>He thinks Lalas are children
You do realize that a majority of Eorzea's Economy is controlled by them right? Their cuteness is an act, a facade to get you to think nothing of them. Meanwhile they scheme in the shadows.

My source is what happens in the quest events, friend. Myste is a manifestation of grief and guilt, your ptsd comet to life.
there's also this.

Don't play it. Don't care. Would appreciate if the WoW mods would stop deleting our threads.

I really want to sexualize my lala but if I ever posted her here I would be recognized.

I loved WoW but I can't stand the direction it has been heading and I'm basically just done with modern WoW at this point. It used to be really aggravating but now I just don't feel anything for the game anymore, and even having a bunch of friends to play it with doesn't do anything for me like it used to.

I've never played wow and don't care for it beyond porn.
Please keep making bestiality webm.

>I will actively ignore everyone providing evidence contrary to my beliefs, please debate me :)

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I haven't played WoW since Cata and have no intention of going back, so idgaf

I got a orc shaman to 120. It was a blast leveling the first time but end game was boring because I felt like I wasn't as strong as I use to be and leveling alts became painful repeating each regions story quest lines.

>back when any healer had to level conjurer to 15 for protect
>white mage had a protect trait in ARR so Scholar's was worse
>all casters had to level thaumaturge to 26 for swiftcast
I don't miss it.

>Don't read the quest
>Get angry when you don't understand
>Get even angrier when you're wrong
Are you black or a muslim?

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Post her anyway.

>I refuse to read or accept any of the proof you've given me, making me the victor

I tried to play WoW twice during the middle of legion and at BfA launch and I just hate it. So much rng in progressing, flying is difficult to unlock, and I hate that there's so much rep grinding to do. I don't even know what to make of that azurite level/armor bullshit.

I still play both, but with the mess BfA is I'm more invested in FFXIV now.
They'd need to fire Golden and that Nathanos-insert writer to unfuck the story, and take a long hard look at their progresion systems and realize trying to mirror Diablo was never a good idea.

They still make good raids, good boss fights, great zones, and whoever writes some of the leveling quest lines needs to be put in charge of the plot, not the idiots who write the main storyline.

yep sounds like a war main pack up boys this kid here is too stupid

>Back when SCH had Virus and Eye for an Eye
I miss it immensly.

Never played it. Blizzard needs to stop being arrogant. Money has corrupted them.
WoW will never die a graceful death, Blizzard won't allow it. The players will remember the good times, as those times will never come again.
FFXIV has issues too. The dev team is rushing and working with bad code. The company interrelationship is not in harmony, despite the public face. FFXIV needs to not follow WoW off a cliff.
Next Gen VRMMO when.

All lalas look the same

I don't really want more than one combo if I have two different resources to manage between Blood Gauge and MP. DRK is the resource Tank.

N-no they're just cute. And love you! Be nice to them.

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>I don't even know what to make of that azurite level/armor bullshit.
Just another classic case of removing things you used to have, and then drip-feeding it back to you under the guise of something "new and interesting" that puts you into another perpetual, expansion-long grind to regain lost features.

What's the lowest MNK Skill Speed set for GCD be at GL3? How low can we go in GL4?

I've only played a trial for WoW a few years ago because a friend nagged me into it, and it was alright. But that's really all I know so I don't chime in.
Except on WoW Classic, that's paying for a private server and I thought it was pathetic when Jagex did it, I think it's even more pathetic that Blizz is doing it.

I played a little for the first time since BC back during Warlords and it was whatever. I think a lot of people are going to have their rose-tinted nostalgia goggles sadly crushed by Classic. As far as retail goes, Allied races are shit except for Zandalari trolls, they had the opportunity to make Broken Draenei playable, which I've wanted since fucking BC when they were announced, and instead they just gave the current ones gold tattoos and eyes and called it a day. Even lazier than Viera and Hrothgar.

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Revenge twice fold is the best boss theme prove me wrong right fucking now you cant

Legion was a legitimate step in the right direction, despite it's faults.

BFA undid all of that in one fell swoop.

>Farming LotA for the ballad set
>somehow get everything in the caster set except the hat while playing as bard
>ballad hat still hasn’t dropped
how

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I still prefer the wow flow of combat over XIV, but everything else goes to FF.

The cinematic trailers look great, in game it looks like shit, garbage artstyle.
The game tries to ride the coattails of it's early years.
Just like FFXIV has an awful erp fanbase, WoW has it's own awful fanbase of players that think they're superior to every other MMO out there.
Classic looks like a cashgrab, I'm reminded of the Call of Duty 4 remake that did awful even though dudebros slurp up Activision's pile of slop every year again and again.

I just hope that DRKs have more going for them than just managing MP. I’m a bit worried that they might not measure up to the others in terms of DPS or raid utility, given the previews.

I second this. I enjoyed Legion, despite its faults.

Desire sensor is a right bitch sometimes

You're confusing them with the Nopon.
youtube.com/watch?v=daznyn2XdK0&t=31m25s

can't wait until literally all male dancers use it
just use the thav pants and emperor chest

Movement in general, and ground-targeting feel so much fucking better in WoW than they do in XIV, it's unreal. XIV is so rigid and trying to hit moving targets with melee skills is completely awful, as rare of an issue as it is.

Basically how to kill the game, it's fucking wow tier no brain one button hyper aggro faggotry.
it's NOT real tanking.

so it is exklusive to the english meme localisation.
thanks for confirming it and thank god I dont have to read this shit.

tbf, the reason the cod 4 remake didn't do so hot was because it was tied to the collectors edition of whatever other CoD came out that year

Literally me with Hullbreaker Hard for the brd/mch gear, and then they went and released recolours you can dye much, much later.

Everything was simplified but the pruning wasn't unwarranted. They took out most of the less used shit.

Going to swap to GNB from WAR. I'm going to miss the big dick dps but I feel like GNB won't be far behind and it's toolbox loadout will make pug tanking comfortable and easy.

I'm also an absolute sucker for breastplate/Duster aesthetic.

CUTE LALA ALERT *code RED*

>I wonder who's behind this post.

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They're terrible though, and aren't as dirty

What's real tanking?

this

bosses should be shitting out tank busters every second for REAL tanking

Nigger, tanks will play almost exactly the same as they do now, the devs just stopped pretending anyone actually used the aggro combo

THIS!

>Pre Shadowniggers
Tanking is basically the hardest job, requires high intelect, skills and planning.
>Post shadowniggers
ME LE PUSH LE AGGRO EPIC WOW WOW XDDD WOW IS SO EPIIIIIC!!!!! WOWFUGEE PRIDE!!!!

When was Tanking in FF complex?

>Quest is written by a Japanese woman and translated by an American man who is fluent in Japanese.
>The English translation must be wrong because I heard it has memes in background dialogue and FATE names
What garbage backwater language do you speak that they had the misfortune to pay for localisation? French?

Yoshi finna needs to apologize for making this nigga bust a nut.

So you're an autistic frenchie?

Tanking has been braindead retarded since ARR

I don't want to jerk off every live letter but here we fucking are.

makes no sense since my WoL has not grief or guilt since he cares not for the one he kills and no one important to him has died yet.

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The DRK questline is actually one of the most accurate unadultered translations.
It's why ShB will be kino, because same writer is now lead MSQ writer.

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> requires high intelect, skills and planning.

What?!!

It only required knowledge of the fight, to use CD during tankbusters.

Played WoW since vanilla up to the end of Wrath and loved every second of it ended up quitting before Cata and skipping over MOP to focus on academics but I came back for Warlords which I hated and Legion which was better and I was hopeful that it was going to build on that and go in the right direction but dropped it hard once I saw what they had for BFA. I'm glad Blizz actually decided to make Classic happen and I hope newfriends and oldfriends alike can find the same kind of joy I did when I played all those years ago but as WoW is right now I'd never go back. Also someone bring back xfire so I can get all my screenshots and videos back thanks

post you're toons

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I know you're just baiting, but the fact that people actually believe this saddens me

What do you expect? Even healers have to do damage or get shit on. When I played years back it was all about damage no matter your role besides. No surprise that it has gotten even worse.

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>Entire expansion dedicated to making self-insert faggots seethe
I can't wait.

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am i playing wrong?
with shadowbringers so close around the corner, i've started rushing through the msq as fast as possible
i just got done with the part where you make all the au ra in the steppes your bitch and invade doma castle, but i feel like i'm m issing out on a lot because all i've been doing is the story

>no one important to him has died yet.
Then why did you smile for Haurchefant like you cared about his dying words?
She was lead writer for SB too.

>finna
Quit talking like a nigga.

Noob here, is braving through ARR content worth it for Heavensward?

I'm leveling a crafter from 50 to 70 and I'm wondering if I should be shooting for a high quality and high a higher chance of HQing a craft, but also a high chance of failing the synth or just shoot for a lot of low quality synths and wait for RNG to do it's job?

*Sniffs*

*Retches*

What is this sudden stench of diarreah?

Ah it's the shit-eating wowfugee blizztards!

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>all those awesome stories
>even the god damn Matoya sidequests
Holy shit this is going to be amazing.

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Stormblood is shit, so rushing it is a big brain move.

Does each Job get their own Level 80 quest or is it 1 Quest only based on Role?

You have an entire month. That's how long it took me to do 1-70 while reading the entire MSQ. Take it easy.

Wrong. She was lead writer for the Azim Steppes

Played it up to level 54 and got bored.

Nah, she wrote the Azim Steppe. She wasn't SB lead.

If you're not having fun at all I'd say probably no

>She was lead writer for SB too.
No, she wasn't. She was only responsible for Azim Steppe which, to suprise of noone, is the best part of SB MSQ

She wrote everything Azim Steppe related, and 4.3 MSQ. Banri Oda wrote the rest.

Each job gets one at 80. The role stuff is during the msq before you cap.

Tank/DPS/Heal quests until 80, then a job story quest.

>thinks its the first time english localisation changes dialogues
lol just look at FF10
thankfully my language is not translated from the english script but the original japanese one. and also without stupid memes. Win Win for me.

>Banri Oda
When the fuck is his ass going to get retired?

This, honestly I don't get why wowfugees exist they're all so fucking dumb and stupid and do dumb stupid crap like not use aoe abilities and spam provoke....

>The DRK questline is actually one of the most accurate unadultered translations.
False. As much as I liked it, the inverse is true.

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>only 1 job quest in shb
was it worth it..

Thank god, I just hope these Job quests are quite detailed if we're only getting the one.

He's completely correct. Don't be an unpaid shill.

>Hanging out with Hien and having dumb competitions
If the English script isn't translated from Japanese, what the hell is it translated from? Urdu?

thank god its just filler.
would suck if she would ruin important main story lines like she did with optional non canon ones.

She and Oda are co-writers. They worked together for SB. There's an interview where she says they split the expansion up and write parts and flow them together. You could argue she wrote all of the Far East storyline, but I would still say she and him worked on parts of both sides.
She didn't write just the part that you guys happened to like.

So how do healfriends actually feel about the removal of your dps spells?

Still pretty early on desu, just being sent to all the other starting cities at the moment, but I've heard people say base game is boring and Heavensward is immense.

I guess this was inevitable. As the number of jobs increase, so does their workload. Eventually, they realized they couldn't keep up the quality of the quests if they had to make so many while also staying in budget, which I assume hasn't increased much even if it did.

Stop replying to retarded Yuros

I smiled because that fucker was finally dead and I cried because I couldnt kill him myself.

I really think they will backtrack like they did with SCH in SB.

I'm hoping they add more job quests as SHB goes on I wanna assume the one at 80 is gonna be a big cliffhanger for all jobs

Well, I pretty much didn't lose shit, so I'm fine

healers will be boring as fuck, theres no way they will actually make content harder because of all the shitters around

My hope is that role quests are actually really difficult and force people to learn their roles.

I can't, I'm a retarded Bong. Pointless arguing is in my DNA.
loves me a good row sometimes i does

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It's really the least important part of the changes. WHM basically plays the same but SCH and AST are changing, the latter by a lot. And current SCH/AST are a lot of fun. Especially AST. Frankly, 4.5 AST will probably be the most fun we'll ever get in a healer job.

Paladins are just superknights at least. That change was also done in XI, though I'm actually gonna put the blame on the 1.0 Japan team for going with FF1/3/5 ナイト instead of FF4 パラディン since they knew there was a warrior job as well.
I want to gut him for
>fucking up firaga, etc
>War Cry -> Infuriate for some reason
>Defender/Destroyer -> Defiance/Deliverance
>Invincible -> Hallowed Ground
>lots of things in scholar's kit having their tactician flavor removed

We're getting more eventually. There's no reason to be outraged over this.

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That was a minor difference in the 30-60 storyline though in Fray's portrayal as the WoL's dark side. 50-60 and 60-70 were about different sujects.

I WANT TO KILL HIM FOR SHIROI HAVING HER NAME FUCKED

Before 3.0 I'd call it hope. Now I just call it willful ignorance.

Thats not helping, thats the RDM playing their class wrong

>Hien role quest in 4.5 part II had only 3 skills and required you to only not get hit in order to clear
>People still found it too difficult
I'm so sorry, user.

I NEED MORE DOTS EVEN THOUGH I'LL JUST PRESS THEM ONCE EVERY 30 SEC OR SO AND BE SPAMMING THE SAME SPELL

LET ME DO DOT 1 DOT 2 BROIL SPAM INSTEAD OF DOT 1 BROIL SPAM.

It could be still be SB sized quests just all at once.
Right?

Oh no.

It is absolutely, but that initial slog is really really bad. It does take a lot of investment and you still might not enjoy it in the end, so keep that in mind.

My greatest desire is an expanded Hall of the Novice, with an extreme mode that drills you on your role shit super hard.

Yeah, like we're getting more egi-glamour. Go guzzle on Yoshida's balls some more.

It's not a minor difference at all.

>30-60 storyline
Correct, but it's not specified by the post I quoted and the slide posted was from HW.

chaos thrust pisses me off the most

This will never, ever happen and even if by some miracle I'm eternally BTFO'd it would not be placed in the MSQ.

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>LUNATIC
>CHERRY
>BLOSSOM
FUCKING WHY YOU NIGGERS LET US HAVE IT
THE SAM WEAB NAMES ARE GREAT BUT GIVE ME MY LUNATIC FUCKING CHERRY BLOSSOM

Some questlines went on too long. Having one quest is fine if it's really good.

My 2 cents is that Koji and Crow's localization is stellar and just improves the quality.
I prefer their D&D autism over more generic anime dialogue. Same with the VA's.

We are getting more egi glamours. The reason for the delay is that they're working on a UI compartment to go with it instead of you manually having to type the configurations. It'll be added in 5.1 along with Sephirot, Leviathan, and Shiva egis for SMN and Moonstone/Obsidian carbuncles for SCH.

I forgot about that one. Also Circle of Doom -> Circle of Scorn. Why??
So early in 1.x there was still datamining and shit and before jobs were added they put some ability descriptions in there. One of the ones that I remember was the 15 minute cooldown Hallowed Ground, which was invincibility but also required you to stand still. So I'm pretty sure Koji-fox looked at this skill called Invincible and said "lol it needs you to stand your ground we should call it hallowed ground"

Don’t forget about Y’shtola, too. Literally press cure 2 when you or Hien are damaged and toss out a damage spell every so often. Cast Lucid Dreaming when low HP.

I like the dialogue, I don't like the skills for the most part. And I could do with less DUDE GAME OF THRONES REFERENCEEEES but whatever

I hope that to appease the shitters, they allow a "warming up" period before the fight, like if we do play as Zenos
>"oh shit I got my body back, time for some practice"
>kills Lyse as practice
then you can choose to proceed with the duty.

This. 4man content will be boring to heal either way, it already was before.

I think since HW they've made an effort to keep characters to be the same across localization after the Haurchefant mishap so I don't mind it. I wish they'd go back and redo things or change skills (or at least add an option? I want Firaja and Lunatic Cherry Blossom)

what mishap?

People underestimate that a lot of what made classic FF's so great was the localizations, even if they were shitty. Sometimes, ESPECIALLY when they were shitty.

Where would we be without pic related?

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it gets problematic when they add headcanon like they did with the DRK quest..

>Ability has an established localized name
>Change it just because
Really agitates my autism.

He's just meant to be way way WAY more friendly to you.

The Nael mishap was worse I think. One of the silliest retcons in history resulted from it.

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>he's still posting

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In ARR JP scripts, Haurchefant was a creepy pervert, in Eng script he is like how he was in Heavesnward Eng script.
In Heavensward JP script however they changed him to how he is in English, so it was a huge difference in his character.

Not to mention there's a bunch of skills that include direct references to XIV lore but lose that in localization. Shroud of Saints was one that had a reference to Nophica (the goddess) in the JP name. Bard has/had some as well.