Say word

>Post sjw/onions thread
>Thread devolves into baiters baiting baiters and baiting the bait

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cry more

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that's all Yea Forums is these days
no one can tell if you have a genuine opinion on something anymore because everything is bait/doublebait to get people angry.

>I AM SILLY

it's not but you faggots keep giving them money and refusing to take the piratepill anyways so what do they care

True, I've also noticed people come to their threads just to post their own opinions and not read anything. So you get like 20 posts saying the same thing with 0 replies instead of a discussion.

>agree to TOS
>break TOS
>get banned

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... yeah, so? whatcha gonna do about it? cry on Yea Forums faggot? huh? little bitch

Okay niggerfaggot go take ur tranny pills and take a different site maybe fall In a pit on the way
Blacks are smelly subhumans

>spend hours on drawing your strawman
the mental illness is deeply rooted.

it's the principle of the matter you fool
What if I get into an ideological debate over post-social acceptance, avenues and evolutions of language over teamchat and some little niglet reports me over it and I lose my soft earned sheckles?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW CENSORSHIP MUCH?

Yeah, I just use this board to dump my opinions or bait people haha.

>drawing something to own the pedes takes hours
lol

From a legal perspective it would not stand up in court, and they'd be required to at least refund the player their money.

But nobody is ever going to sue over being banned from a video game so video game publishers can get away with it.

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The First Amendment doesn't apply to privatized corporations that are providing you the opportunity to play on their game servers in exchange for money. Retard

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based onions poster

I miss pre-2016 Yea Forums, who would have known this website would become an even bigger dumpster fire

lefty memes are fucking novellas
all right wingers need to do is say "nigger" and their opponents crumble.

>From a legal perspective it would not stand up in court, and they'd be required to at least refund the player their money.
why though? you violated the TOS. you were perfectly aware of the rules before you even started playing.

Moot let it happen by allowing /pol/ to fester and grow even after it became stormfront 2.0

all i have to say is drumpf and you start seething lol

it's not even a strawman when you have mentally ill faggots on this very website believing that deletion of nazi memes is jewish propaganda to wipe out the white race

/pol/, racism in general exists because one group or another is not allowed to voice their opinion.

I doubt saying nigger breaks the TOS in any way
It’s a fucking word u faggot

Because game as service is a scam. You don't own anything.

>I heard you said nigger once so I'm afraid I can't fix your toilet, but thanks for the payment in advance bro

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I guess you won't miss anything then?

moot wasn't here anymore when GG and elections happened, I think he would have done something about the refugee wave that resulted considering it was well known he was fucking tired of /pol/
hiro just doesn't give a fuck though

It's not a first amendment issues, dummy. It's consumer law.

If a corporation has sold a good or service they don't have the right to rescind said good or service without compensation if at all. The company that built your chair isn't allowed to take it back even if they hate you. And if you pay money to go to Disneyland, but they reject you at the gate for wearing the wrong shoes they have to refund you.

The only edge case is when it can be reasonably said that the player has consumed enough of the product that they are not owed compensation. As in, you don't have to compensate throwing a drunk out of a night club if they've been in there for hours.

Yeah yeah you're so oppressed. What a joke.

>'don't be a racist'
>ZOMG YOU ARE LITERALLY CENSORING ME FROM SAYING NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER YOU FUCKING FACIST

>paying up front before the task is complete
fucking hell burgers are fucking stupid.

I always report people who say gg ez and other shithead statements like that. The less of you on OW the better

TOS are generally incredibly illegal. And tech giants will do anything to prevent them from being tested in court because they know they are illegal.

For example, if a business had a term of service that said they can steal all your money and beat you up if you sign. And you sign. It is still illegal for them to beat you up and steal your money, because the contract was always void.

you want them to charge you for the game only after you beat it?

>OW

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yeah, that checks out. i'd do it too, and any alpha male wouldnt put up with bullshit they dont like either lol

I got banned on Yea Forums for criticizing the US's support of Israel in response to another person criticizing the US's support of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Criticizer did not get banned.

>playing online

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>For example, if a business had a term of service that said they can steal all your money and beat you up if you sign. And you sign
why would you though. are burgers really that stupid?

yeah bro your post just reeks of alpha male energy, bro

Only oldfags will remember this meme!

>I'm silly

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>walk in burger king
>order a cheeseburger
>start eating it while screaming about the niggers, faggots and kikes and harassing everyone
>get thrown out
>cry on Yea Forums(nel) about the ebil SJW lefties

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Holy shit dude it’s a fucking word imagine getting this pissy over a single word that’s meaningless and is literally in like every rap song by a black person
Ur a fucking faggot if I have seen one

>wastes money on a video game
>mad when the jew fucks him over
wtf?

Presumably they signed knowing the term of service was illegal in this hypothetical and they planned to sue the pants off them if they did anything of the sort.

you've been saying that since 2016 and nothing's happened.

TOS

That is the worst analogy I have ever read

replace "burger king" with "adult swim" and you have sam hyde's career.

this happens on Yea Forums all the time. if someone posts an opinion the mods don't like they get banned.

Stop buying products where the other party has a kill switch to your game

And are they representing all opposition? No. It's a strawman. It's the classical lowcost approach of trying to discredit a opinion by finding an idiot who supports it and suggesting the whole group is like him.

it's true though.

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this kek, imagine giving goldstein money to ban you from his game

Any burger join that had such an altercation, that did not result in calling the police, would make you leave with the burger or your money back.

>money stolen
I know this is bait but this isn't how it works.

How about you take a look at yourself: A retard who thinks anything remotely right wing is nazi.

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racists don't get refunds though.

I lived in NYC for four years when going to school there. I saw several people with MAGA hats. I expected an riot after the election, but nothing really happened.

>Mute and ignore
WHAT, YOU EXPECT ME TO HAVE AGENCY OVER WHAT I CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO? NO MOMMY CORPORATIONS PLEASE CODDLE ME!

That's why you should only buy games in PHYSICAL format buddy.

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Because not everyone wants to hear your fedora tipping, faggot. Join a discord if you want to act like a bitch. Stay off comms if you're just going to screech like an autistic downey. People are trying to communicate for team advantage, not hear you spew your ideological bullshit.

>STILL playing online games with forced matchmaking and no community servers
>complaining about SJW devs pandering to soft cucks' feefees

You have only yourselves to blame. The golden age of online gaming is long gone.

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Fake, Burger King will take any customer they can get.

Then they'd get to take their food out with them.

>play well
>opposite team gets pissed
>reports me
>get banned for 'toxic behaviour'

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they can still ban you

>accept the terms of service
>get punished according to the terms of service you accepted
>WTF HOW IS THIS LEGAL
Fuck off.

you incited and contributed to off topic posting, faggot nigger. you deserve it

>buy a gun
>shoot up a school
>get arrested
>OH MY GOD LITERALL THOUGHT POLICE STEALING MY HARD-EARNED FIREARM. NOBODY TOLD ME MURDER WOULD BREAK THE TERMS OF SERVICE. FUCKING FACIST POLICE STATE.

TOS won't hold up in court though, lmao.

In a few years, they'll get rid of the confederate redneck stawman shit and just have it aimed at all white men.

You're free to try.

TOS aren't legal just because they claim to be

nobody would want food that a racist has touched anyway.

Yikes, buddy.

pretty crazy how seriously they take text these days

back in my day typing things online was considered harmless series of keystrokes
like lmao they're just letters who cares

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>user, did you agree to the contract
>yes
>and you admit you violated the contract?
>yes, BUT IT'S NOT FAIR TRUMP SAID I CAN DO WHAT I WANT AND I WANT TO SAY THE N-WORD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>have to accept tos to play the game
>nobody actually reads it, takes it seriously, or sincerely agree to it

>tries to make an analogy
>fails and talks about school shootings
>shits pants

Ew man, don't shit your pants. I can't believe people pro-censorship shit their pants.

>play dota
>some LARPer wants to have an "ideological debate"

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That dude is so full of himself
>LOOOK HOW SMART I AM LOL IM DA Scienceman XD

>Agree to ToS
>They change it every week for 3 years
>Bans you under completely new and different terms to original
Completely legal and holds up in court :))))))

Actually, they will be the only thing that holds up.

I've gotten my money back on every single online game I've been denied service to.

Imagine comparing words that offend you to killing someone. Imagine thinking these two things are even close to one another.

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Blame the normie invasion and their constant effort to bring real life shit into cyberspace.

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>>nobody actually reads it, takes it seriously
not the game's fault that you refuse to read it
>or sincerely agree to it
by hitting the 'i've read and accept' button, you have agreed to it.

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>comparing a word to shooting up a school
This is your brain on 100 levels of propaganda

Not when
Happens and they don’t send an update email

you seething crybaby redditors have been posting shit like this nonstop for YEARS shut up already
muh pol
muh goober gate
muh previous year meme is ruining Yea Forums !!! can't we talk about video games xD

Be glad you got to live though our own version of the wild west.

/pol/ are nazis and have been for some years now, you'd have to be a retard in denial not to see that, you retard

TOS is not a contract. Contracts require signatures. TOS is toilet paper in the legal systems.

>the state of the libshit IQ

Sorry, but the TOS can't void basic laws. Go make a contract that says the person who signed it has to suck your dick, see how far you get.

>by hitting the 'i've read and accept' button, you have agreed to it.
No I do not. I have never actually agreed to a tos. I just lie and click "agree" in order to play the game.

>getting owned by toilet paper
so this is the power of the right...

>not the game's fault that you refuse to read it
Legally, it literally is
>by hitting the 'i've read and accept' button, you have agreed to it.
That doesn't mean anything in court if what you have agreed to is illegal. You've been watching too many movies.

>play game
>"Okay guys, we should do X Y and Z to approach the objective"
>"Why should we listen to you, faggot?"
>"Uh, just saying"
>"Quick, everyone report user for causing us to lose"
>1 hour later
>You have been banned, your account will no longer be active nor can it be reinstated. That will be $60 plus tip. Have a good day! :) -Jew Admin

THEY ARE FUCKKNG TURNING THE FROGS GAY

>No I do not.
yes you have.
>I just lie and click "agree" in order to play the game.
then don't get bootyblasted when they ban you for breaking one of the rules you couldn't be bothered to read.

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kill yourself, I mean it

You cannot tell me what I agree or do not agree to, any more than I can tell you that you agree to give me all your money and possessions.

It’s funny because their rules are incredibly flimsy. I could get someone banned for being a racist just because I report them too

Being racist and hating colored people isn't something unique to Nazis. It's quintessentially American.

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a car manufacturer can't take my car away because i call you a niggerfaggot, that would be theft. being unable to use your product because you're a big meanie is also theft.

>Unf daddy corporations please fuck my ass! Anybody who hates you is just a right-wing Nazi!
It's crazy how the actual fascists have deluded themselves into believing they're freedom fighters.

LMAO

>You cannot tell me what I agree or do not agree to
cool. enjoy getting banned then.

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What you're describing is theft

Just admit you are fine with a corporation stealing from customers you disagree with.

yes, you're absolutely right, /pol/ has been ruining this website for years :) you retards could just stay on your own board but you don't really have the attention span for that

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>unf daddy trump please send my foreskin to israel right this second and make the evil rainbow flag go away because it scares me.

>make thread
>get lots of replies
>keep making the same thread over and over again for more replies
How is this allowed?

>impact other players experience negatively on purpose
>get banned
you deserve it faggot

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Ive stopped posting because I started to realize that removed from my voice you cant tell if im posting my opinion or satire. I thought that was fucking ridiculous, I dont even bother anymore.

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>imagine being this butthurt by /pol/ just existing
U should actually leave no one gives a fuck what u think

sure, whatever, but that doesn't really refute what I'm saying

>Pay entry to a movie
>Start screeching like a spastic and get removed from the theatre
>Complain that this is somehow theft

>do you agree to [thing]
>yes, but i want to violate the rules
>ding dong bannu
>WTF NOT FAIR

>HURRR ANYTING AUTHORIATIAN = FASCISM
>GURRR LOOK AT ME I'M FUCKING STUPID AND AMERICAN

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If its not theft then why is piracy illegal?

>paying for video games

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>Game gives you the tools to mute and avoid players
>Yet you're such an inept manchild that you have to cry to a corporation that doesn't give a fuck about you

They can refuse to give you warrantied service, and send you somewhere else, yes.
You still own the game, you just use the online.

>wtf, there are rules I agreed to?
>purchase plane ticket
>repeatedly scream Alluah Ackbar on plane
>get kicked out
>fuck communism, Sjws at it again
>literally censorship

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you can't sign your rights away. im not sure how old you are, but there are laws that supersede any contract between two parties. those laws can make the contract unenforceable, which most eula's are. im not sure why you so happily suck the cock of a corporation that doesn't know or care that you exist.

cope

wow simply ebin ancient history redditor!
except I posted on it when it was /new/ before it became pol so that global rule didn't exist
cry more baby

It’s one thing to remove someone from a game, it’s a different thing to make it so they can’t play what they purchased. IE, theft.

DUMB frogposter, go have a crisis elsewhere

No one reads that shit u shill retard

>>Game gives you the tools to mute and avoid players
why should other players have to implement measures so they don't encounter the toxic tards?

>HURRR ANYTING AUTHORIATIAN = FASCISM
Stealing a product someone purchased because they said a bad word is a gross misuse of power that breaks all trading practices and is in fact authoritarian as fuck.

>Contracts require signatures.
they dont. what you're trying to say is that contracts can be unenforceable if the terms of the contract are illegal.

so you admit it's your own fault when you get banned then, gotcha.

Verbal contracts exist

>Ruining Yea Forums
>waaah these ebil nazis called me a fag
HAAAAHAHAH

>pay entry money to a movie
>movie have build in voice chat and mute functions and encourages users to use it
>you use it
>gets banned

rules good
automated bans good
no think
youtube.com/watch?v=skWzi3o4oGI

>were you aware of what was in the TOS
>no I was not
Doesn’t hold up

>contract is unfavorable
>americans still sign it
lol

I'm fine with them banning the player, but the corporation should provide them with their legally required refund as required by consumer law.

Also you should not support the further push of "software as a service" in the first place. You may be happy it's happening to people you don't like, but in ten years time it could be happening to everyone.

Would you like to live in a world were all digital transactions are limited time deals. And you only get to play your Call of Duty 16 for a couple of months before you have to rebuy the game again.

>hurr why do I have to wear clothes when going outside? can't the weather adjust to my needs instead?

>mute someone sperging out in chat
>they just teamkill you anyway
happens a lot when you deal with retards that can't put a cap on their anger. most of the people that get banned for "toxic behavior" deserve it in my experience.

Who are you to decide what is and isn't toxic? What would be considered banter twenty-years-ago that would create friendships is now grounds for having your shit deleted and banned.

>Food analogy

>see a sign saying 'if you say nigger you get banned'
>say NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
>get banned
>wtf no fair REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ok, the fact that you're a hopeless boomer who should have moved on years ago doesn't change the reality of /pol/, its status as a containment board and the fact that everyone who isn't a fucking retard polnigger hates you, and that the global rule was implemented because you were too retarded to understand your kindergarten enclosure's purpose that literal zoophile degenerates understood immediately

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fuck this image, I couldn't call my character Mona in monster hunter because it's a bad world in italian

Ignorance of terms or refusal to accept them doesn't protect you from them.

Most companies have you agree to revisions of a ToS, retard.

But it's not fascist
You're falling for the programming

Kinda does when you consider anybody who is a racist to also be a Nazi.

NIGGERS!

>were you aware of what was in the TOS
>no I was not
>but you still signed them and accepted them
>yes but IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR

>Most
And there’s the problem

>Doesn't read terms and agreements
>Cry about it
Stay banned brainlet

>wow wtf how come no one appreciates when i come to an unrelated board and start sperging out about jews? fucking cucks

>They can refuse to give you warrantied service
they literally fucking cannot retard. warranties are enforceable by law. they have their own stipulations, no law is written "unless you're mean"
>You still own the game, you just use the online.
if the only way to play the game is online then you effectively took my product a broke it. this is illegal.

stop acting like a child and defending fucking nobody because you want to have some kind of moral high ground

>Be a retard corporate cocksucker
>Can't give actually good reasons for why people should have their products stolen from them after a legally binding purchase
>Make absurd comparisons about screaming nigger and faggot in public establishments where features such as muting and blocking do not apply

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And those ToS are still not legal.

Get better bait.

You let women vote, not deal with their antics.

No, they shouldn't. Annoying autists need to learn their lesson, fuck the "law"

>acting like ur better than someone because u took hours to read some stupid service thing
Ur an actual faggot holy shit

cry more pede and try not breaking TOS next time.

>agree to tos
>violate tos
>get banned
>don't care
>make new account
>get banned again
>don't care
>make new account
>etc.
These contracts aren't real. I don't have to take them seriously if I don't want to.

>go to sporting event.
>say word
>get removed
>money stolen

>go to private establishment.
>say word
>get removed
>money stolen

>go to theater.
>say word
>get removed
>money stolen

>go to private club.
>say word
>get removed
>money stolen

>go to gym.
>say word
>get removed
>money stolen

etc, etc, etc. grow up dumb faggots.

I'm talking about /pol/ exclusively, and there's a pretty fucking big overlap
which is why I stopped posting there

Take a basic law course u dumb niggerfaggot

sneed

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>he can read that means he is gay
what did he mean by this. the funny bit is that since you can read too, you must also be gay lol

Holy shit Autistic_Frog is still at it.
Dude it's been a year, let go

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thats fine and good if i didnt pay you any money and you kicked me out of your own space. but when you take my money for a product then brake the product that prevents me from using it, its theft.

> Purchase a beer bottle
> Smash it on someone's head for a good laugh
> Nigger gets upset and can't take a good bant
> Beer spills out of the broken bottle, can't even suck most of it off the ground because it's peppered with glass shards and HIV-positive blood
> The cool sticker on the bottle gets taken away from me by the cops because it's "evidence"

Fucking bee brands infringing on my freedoms

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So when is the mod coming in an mass banning us all?

>online service = product
wrong faggot.

It's part of the banter, just like saying bad word in the first place

Well I'm glad you at least agreed what the corporations are doing is in violation of the law, even if you agree with it.

>Agree to EULA without even reading it
>Do something that violates EULA
>Lose access to thing covered by EULA
WOOOW

Why don't you fight this shit on the front line; if you have an issue with game companies restricting words in their games, say that. Don't hide behind this little pretend barrier of "boo hoo they stole my money" when you know you didn't even read the agreement to the thing you bought.

Or just get creative with how you call people niggers, I guess.

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>law course means i can do what i want.
ok

TOS and contracts in general cannot be enforceable if their terms are illegal.
i think you got your law degree from day time TV

/pol/ and /new/ before that actually used to be good. It was always incredibly right-wing but on a good "4channy" way, if you know what i mean

Pretty sure the pedo is more likely to be you.

And in any of these public spaces do I have the feature to block and mute people I don't like?

Oh wow it's been a hot minute since I've seen you Frog. Still posting the same thread I see

m'lady

you violated TOS though.

Yes. You can put on your snowflake headphones

They are. They do usurp or undermine federal, state, or local law in any way and enacted on private property (servers). As long as it doesn’t prevent you from booting up the game and accessing single player content, they are well within their rights to tell you to fuck off for being a retard, retard. Educate yourself.

That’s exactly what your doing
U would realize how dumb U sound right now

>TOS is above the law
America, not even once

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none of your examples are applicable to paying money for a product, then having your product broken by the seller. sorry chump.

>grow up and start making absurd analogies for things that would never happen, start being offended by words, start blindly defending corporations no matter what, start taking contracts seriously which aren't legally binding, and start arguing against your own rights
No. There is no point.

Literally any online game will have a clause that you agree to upon launching, installing, or purchasing the service that gives them the right to withhold the service from you if you break the other rules. That's legal, that's the law.
>i-i-i paid for it
Not going to hold up in any court ever, especially if you have to defend yourself with "Well I paid for it, why can't I call for Holocaust 2 Electric Boogaloo?"

>he thinks pede = pedo
lol fucking retard

Fat-shaming in video game chat isn't illegal.

Fatty.

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>Don't impede someone else's access
>Simply choose to ignore them with an all-encompassing mute and let them carry on
>I'm the snowflake because I don't want another person banned
Hilarious.

Shut up u fucking subhuman darkie

*They do not

It's a video game, you autistic fuck. People want to play the game, not hear some retarded "ideological debate"

Imagine being so fat you have to relate everything to food

yeah I know, maybe it's just because I was underage but everything seemed like it was just in jest, now you can't even tell if some retarded rant is someone baiting or a boomer who forgot to take his pill

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>Buy hamburger
>Say word
>Mc Donald burst into your house and takes your burger away
>Hamburger stolen

>That's legal, that's the law.
It's not legally enforceable at all.

The principle of the matter is that your right to enjoy the game ends where other's right to enjoy the game begins, you can't have your fun at the expense of everyone else's.

are you fucking retarded?
just because you access the product(video game) through the internet does not suddenly make it not a product.

>That's legal, that's the law.
No it isn't.
Just because you write something in a contract doesn't make it legal. Even IF the consumer reads it and agrees to it. In many cases you literally CANNOT sign over your legal consumer rights, unless you're dealing with some off-shore corporation or a native American reservation.

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While they legally can do it, it's a retarded strategy that lose a lot of money on the long run, as they're literally fucking the majority to cater for a tiny minority of rich fucks.
There are MANY ways to skin this cat.

Also if the game is online only, they should return the money if they permaban you.

>agree to ToS saying you can get banned for any reason
>be surprised when you get banned
???????

> Eat food
> Can't eat it anymore
> Money stolen

WOOOOW

terms like "pede" are plebbit cancer

If you cant hang, play games where it isn't an issue you weak faggot.

You signed the EULA. Which says your game is only licensed to you which can be rescinded at any point for any reason.
So don't be a dick online.

TOS cannot be enforceable if its terms are illegal. such as breaking my product because i was a meanie to someone.

>word games
You can't deny someone a service they paid for without returning their money.

>accept TOS
>break it anyway
>consequences
>BROOOO WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUCKUUUUGH

>agreeing to rules then breaking them is perfectly legal in america
lol

I wish i would be turned into a woman haha

>Burgers
Nothing was said about America why are you so fucking obsessed. Also
>Hurr Durr why would you even sign
It's a hypothetical you mongoloid

nice greentexting you have there boomer faggit

>>Buy hamburger
>>Say word
>>Mc Donald burst into your house to take my burger away

>quickly eat burger before they can take it
>ate too fast
>sue McDonalds for my digestive problems

Which is why it has been done since the dawn of civilization.

Not legal.

>TOS cannot be enforceable if its terms are illegal
preventing you from saying nigger on our service isn't illegal, cleetus.

If people are so mad about what they can and can't say in voice chat why not just use teamspeak or something? Why not find like minded people to play with?

Literally what point are you arguing for? I'm against people being banned because they said a mean word, I'm advocating for people to stop being coddled faggots and just mute what you don't like. I do not approve of someone losing access to a video game because he said nigger.

So why are you seemingly arguing FOR people to be banned for these things while calling me a pussy because I don't want to listen to it? It's contradictory.

lol yeah those people should be hauled off to prison or shot lol

Why do people continue to come into this thread and post shit that's been refuted 30,000 times?

>knows it will get him banned
>does it anyway
WHAT, YOU EXPECT ME TO FACE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS? NO MOMMY CORPORATIONS PLEASE CODDLE ME!

Your boots sir

You get a gym membership, handstamp, theater ticket, etc. That's what you pay for: access to a service. Games are both products AND services. The online portions are services and you still own the product (game) even if access to the service is denied.
>absurd analogies.
These are very realistic analogues that happen every day. People are kicked out group settings constantly for acting like chimp niggers.
You get a gym membership, handstamp, theater ticket, etc. That's what you pay for: access to a service. Games are both products AND services. The online portions are services and you still own the product (game) even if access to the service is denied.

And the rest of the west, where consumer law is generally even stronger.

>it's been refuted because user said so
lol k

>Buy videogame
>Page 435 of TOS has a regulation that sells you into slavery if you ever write "Pumpkin" in the chat
>Yeah bro, slavery is illegal but you signed the TOS, now go back to the field or i'll get the whip

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Jesus motherniggering christ, this spammer's back and continuing to bait idiots into bumping his retarded threads. How many months has it been by now?

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should've read the TOS then, slave.

People offended by nigger?
Coddled faggot.
People offended by being banned and making threads on Yea Forums?
Coddled faggot.

People losing access is legit hilarious just like people literally crying because someone says nigger.

Nigger.

This is why you vote with your bullets and not your wallet

>months
make it years

Triggered.

Why amerimutts get so easily triggered by words?

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Fucking American you should be grateful to be sold into slavery you read the ToS

one, or more of you are very confused here. ToS and EULAs cannot be enforceable if the provision that is being used against you is illegal in the first place.
for example, you can't enforce a contract where one party is anothers slave because that isn't legal in the first place.

The thing with video games though is usually when you get banned t's because you broke the Terms of Service. It's stated right there in fine print what will happen to your privilege to access the game servers if you are caught breaking these terms. Morons deciding to be deliberately provocative and not realizing that giant wall of text when booting up the game is there for a reason other than to waste 5 seconds of your time isn't the company's fault

hey i know you got your law degree from reddit and TV, but check this out.

To add on to this, playing on online games is a service not a product you consume. You still have all rights of ownership to your copy of the game, just not access to any of the multiplayer services usually provided

Explain how it's illegal.
Refusal of service isn't illegal, it happens every day in theaters, clubs, private groups, paid establishments, venues, etc.
>games are a product.
The online portions are services.

Terms of Service are not enforceable if they are illegal.

It doesn't matter if it's in fine print or a bold heading. If the ToS is illegal (such as violating consumer law) then it is not enforceable by law.

>Months
I wanna say he started back in 2017 but I'd have to check the fireden

>These are very realistic analogues that happen every day.
Only in pro-corporate social justice fantasy land. The reality is, even when given maximum freedom, most people still won't bother doing absurd things. Just look at Yea Forums, we can come on here and say pretty much whatever we want, but only a small percentage of posters actually push the limits. Most people are no longer amused by getting banned from things and shitting up forums once they're past age 14. Trolling gets old.

>. People are trying to communicate for team advantage
you're the fedora, my hombre

have sex incel

No it's been refuted because it's been refuted. Don't come into a thread with 250 replies, not read any of it, then post the same horseshit that was said in the first 20 posts and already argued against.

>You get a gym membership, handstamp, theater ticket, etc.
all places
>That's what you pay for: access to a service.
at a physical place
>Games are both products AND services
no they're not. one does not equal the other.
games are products. i gave you money for a game, subscription services are just a means of access to a product.

taking my access away after taking my money is theft. your examples of physical places have no merit, you're comparing apples and oranges.

Nigger European countries have been fucking arresting people and fining people for saying things that aren't PC.

>buy game
>you don't actually own it

thanks ToS

what law are you speaking of

>ToS says i can't say nigger
>lets me say nigger in chat
hmmm

This. It's not like you can sue a game company for shutting down the game's servers.
>buy game
>company shuts down servers after 5 years
>money stolen

>You still have all rights of ownership to your copy of the game,

Which is now worthless because it's an online only game so by not giving a refund you have effectively stolen from me.

>See back and forth of people saying ToS is and isn't enforceable
If it's not enforceable then take it to fucking court, no one here cares. Stop being a retard online and you won't get banned. Crazy.

>le bait xD

it's an interesting thought provoking topic so people join in

unlike your shitty spam "what's her name Yea Forums xD" threads

No legal expert would ever agree with that. They tried that with movies in the early 2000s and judges ruled hard against it.

That's why rental companies exist. Because consumers had to fight with publishers for the right to rent their own property, which was called a violation of the term of service.

These threads are garbage but atleast they keep the corporate shills sequestered

>wahhh they said I word I no like wahhhh
>reeee wahhh why aren’t they banned
>reee stahp existing wahhh
Yah u are faggot get over it
No one cares about how u feel
Maybe u should try tranny era
Seems like mods ban everything there u will fit in better u insufferable faggot

yes they would dumbass

this is obviously false because the workers didn't start pelting you with milkshakes the moment you started screaming obscenities

Siege has a singleplayer mode.

you're this guy righti answered you here>taking my access away after taking my money is theft.

i don't know how i can make it any clearer to you people. you can't damage my product after you took my money because i said something you didn't like. this is not legal anywhere and is not enforceable by any EULA or TOS. it just isnt.

Sage

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i was chat banned in overwatch for telling a girl "you're not really that bright arent you?"

not video games

The thing is though that a lot of us do want to be "retards" online and not get banned for it. Furthermore plenty of us here do care about this stuff.

That is past the 'reasonable use' date.

No you can't get a refund after enjoying five years, but if you bought the game and a day later they shut down the servers you damn right entitled to a refund.

What constitutes 'reasonable use' is up for interpretation. But not the fact that if it is rescinded before 'reasonable use' has been met, the consumer is entitled to a refund.

>posts the same retarded OP again and again and again and again after getting BTFO countless times
>whether it's okay to be banned for calling people niggers is an interesting thought provoking topic
>reddit spacing
>"Yea Forums is one person" fallacy

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>announcing you have saged
see you in a few days plebbitor

No, they wouldn't fatass.

Have you got any evidence to suggest otherwise? Case precedent? It's an open secret that tech companies ToS

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>If it's not enforceable then take it to fucking court, no one here cares.
You know that people won't actually bother to do that. What's more likely is that they'll just make another account and get that one banned too, then another and another. If they have to pay for the game every time, they'll just pirate the game. The point is, we can't completely stop these behaviors, so it's actually wiser to just accept them to some degree.
>Stop being a retard online and you won't get banned. Crazy.
Why are you allowed to say retard, but other people aren't allowed to use an ethnic or homophobic slur? You will just brush this under the carpet, but many people are sincerely offended by that word. This is all arbitrary, and that's part of the reason people are right to push back against the corporate ideological horseshit.

If you go a club, people are kicked out all the time. Please grow up.
>all places
you're still paying for access to a service. That's what online games are. Trying to discredit it by saying "it's just a place" doesn't hold up as a reasonable argument.
>at a physical place
So? Digital spaces are real too. If you don't think they are, then you are completely at the whims of the service-provider.
>no they're not. one does not equal the other.
>games are products. i gave you money for a game, subscription services are just a means of access to a product.
>taking my access away after taking my money is theft. your examples of physical places have no merit, you're comparing apples and oranges.
They sure do. You are literally paying for access to a service when you buy a game with an online component. You saying "no it's not" doesn't change it. There's a product component: the offline portion. That remains intact. Denial of service isn't theft.

The universally accepted concept in law, by which a person is beholden to the contractual agreements they make. pacta sunt servanda

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Most games with online multiplayer usually have a training or single player mode with bots. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that completely locks you out of the game completely is WoW. And even then you still OWN the product, you just can't log on to any of the servers

>What's more likely is that they'll just make another account and get that one banned too, then another and another. If they have to pay for the game every time, they'll just pirate the game. The point is, we can't completely stop these behaviors, so it's actually wiser to just accept them to some degree.

Sounds like a tidy profit to be made banning people

Your product is the binary code sitting in your hard drive and/or the plastic disc that you bought.

yeah the tos is part of the contract there
based retard

you're really gunning for comparing physical venues and shows to video games. these are not the same products.

>There's a product component: the offline portion.
heres what you're not getting

>That remains intact.
by no means is it intact. you broke my product. i can no longer enjoy it in the way it was meant to be used -> online

>Denial of service isn't theft.
that is EXACTLY what it is bucko

>pirate an online game

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Contracts absolutely do not need a physical signature like most people seems to think
A handshake can seal a contract, a few words can too, and clicking "I agree" can too
The problem lie in the TOS content that depending on the country will hold up in court or will be considered unfair and makes the contract void

shut up nigger

based retard has been spending an hour still making the agrument that you can sign your rights away

Not him but that's not the point, I couldn't give less of a fuck about the word nigger but if in the ToS it says "dont be racist lol" then they do have the right to ban you. That said, you have zero reading comprehension, and wouldnt be surprised if you were an underage white amerifat desu

Racism is absolutely natural. The vast majority of people are racists to some degree, like it or not.
We are fucking different.

Buying a product itself is a contract, and that comes with consumer protections that override any bullshit ToS that says otherwise.

If you go to a shop and buy a faulty product, and it says "no refunds", you are still entitled to a refund.

This has never happened and is peak autism. Nobody cares if you get banned for saying stupid shit.

>join in a friendly game of basketball
>"HEY WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S NOT FAIR THE ENEMY TEAM IS ALL NIGGERS YOU NIGGERS OUGHTA GET OUT OF MY WHITE AMERICAN BASKETBALL GAME YOU HEAR ME NIGGERS"
>"OH HEY WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE YOU KICKING ME OUT YOU'RE LITERALLY RAPING ME HELP HELP ME MUH FREE SPEECH YOU'RE LITERALLY STEALING MY TIME"

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the argument isn't whether or not they can ban you, anyone can ban you from their place of business. the problem is that when they keep your money after the fact

>boomer who forgot to take his pill

That's pretty much the current userbase of pol currently. It's pathetic how stale pol (and most of Yea Forums) has gotten since 2016

And your point is?

>arguing against your own self-interests and freedom
lol!

case precedent of what exactly? nobody has even tried to sue
the lack of a case precedent proves my point

what rights exactly

>How is this acceptable in any way?
By agreeing to the terms and conditions at the beginning you didn't read but clicked ok on anyway.

How is that racist u fucking retard
Go choke on some kike cook

> I couldn't give less of a fuck about the word nigger but if in the ToS it says "dont be racist lol" then they do have the right to ban you
They do have a right to ban you, so long as they refund the money.

>payday2 xbox360
>kick a guy at end of mission who joined at end and didnt even help
>sends me a message saying he is disgusted in how i acted and i am officially banned from playing with him and any of his friends ever
>ask how
>they will all remember my gaymer tag and kick me if i ever happen to join their game
Stop complaining about ur ban op im literally on a watchlist by this dude and his 3 friends for the rest of my life

>How is this acceptable in any way?
It's acceptable in ToS way, user.

Technically you agree to follow the terms of service before you even install. If you violate those terms then ding dong banuuuu

>all these precedents don't apply because I say so
>no I will not substantiate on my claim
>I will not provide a precedent that applies to online video games and supports my claim either
>instead I will arbitrarily declare my opinion to be truth and call it a day

If you buy a chair and beside the contract to buy the chair, you also bindingly agree to only use the chair in previously determined ways and agree that ownership of the chair goes back to the previous owner, and that exact case to which you agreed happens, tough shit. Consumer protection law is supposed to protect a malinformed, or inferior consumer from being strong armed by enterprises. If the consumer is fully aware of what is going to happen and still signs a contract putting him into the hole, no consumer protection is going to help.

If you have any issues with the way contractual freedom works here, guess what. feel free to not contract at all with people like this. Video games are a pure luxury good. You can do without.

It's not, people should sue and file class actions against them.

They're solely operating on the principle that nobody is going to do that over a $50 game.

nigger

>Go to arcade
>Call someone a nigger/faggot/whatever and harass them during a game
>Get thrown out by security
>WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY STOLE MY MONEY

>pay movie ticket
>act like a fucking retard and bother everyone in the teater
>get kicked out
>money stolen
This is just how it works in society, why should anyone have to put up with your faggotry, just because you want to say the "funny bad word xD" .

It's acceptable because despite raging about it for years people still give the game companies money

Because the internet is not real. It is a fictional playground for adults, and always will be.

private servers

any rights you room temperature IQ mongoloid.
contracts can't be enforced if the terms are illegal in the first place.

>HURR I'LL KEEP COMPARING PUBLIC SPACES WITH NO MUTE/BLOCK FUNCTION TO AN ONLINE GATHERING THAT DOES HAVE SUCH FEATURES

Stop slapping that shitty wojak on everything

it isnt
only zoomers defend this

Those terms of service are not legal. Non-legal ToS are not legally binding or enforceable.

You can't violate a contract that was not valid in the first place.

what's illegal
also yes they can, just that one term is void

just say "no u" if you really have nothing else to say and would like to continue to confuse what the internet is, and different product types

How many times has OP made this thread?

Because the internet isn’t real life
And they did more than just say nigger
No shit if u act like a retard and Bother people ur going to get thrown out not the same as saying a word
Imagine getting this butthurt over a word on a screen

I think you mean millennials. Zoomers will be the generation to try to reanimate Hitler.

Yeah this sounds right. Get the fuck out of your parents house

sage

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>well after 10,000 hours I'm finally done with this online game, time to get reimbursed and buy another one
>yes yes, I did say nigger in chat, I'll have my sixty dollars back please thank you

Because reading offensive words on a screen isn't actually disruptive compared to somebody acting out in a theater. You can still play the same MP mode if somebody is calling you a faggot. If said insults are bothering you that much, you can always mute them.
>>but I shouldn't have to take the half-second or so to mute somebody for annoying me
I fail to see why anyone should cater to your lazy ass then.

Every single hurt feefees faggot in this thread should do everybody a favour and watch the original Xbox Live a

>2:40
>Bruh just fucking mute them

youtube.com/watch?v=XWALEOfgkuI

How the fuck is bothering people in real life real? like put on ear-plugs lmao.

>what's illegal
>being unable to use your product because you're a big meanie is also theft.

don't try to make the argument that you still own the software. thats irrelevant. if you damage my product and say "well you still have it" even though it can't be used in the manner its intended then its still theft.

>Internet
>Not a public space
Stay mad. I appreciate Blizzard "stealing" your money because it's going to fund more SFM/Blender shit for me to jerk off to.

what is the right to refuse service?

It's not acceptable
But it is something we have to learn to live with since it is not going away any time soon
t. toxic gamer

YOU NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

right to refuse service and im not going to finish the job but keep your money are not one and the same

>IT'S ILLEGAL MOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>lol no I will not sue
Then shut up you triple nigger, the only way to prove your point is to sue and win, if neither you nor anyone is willing to do that then that's an admission of defeat.

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>don't try to make the argument that you still own the software. thats irrelevant
It's not. It's the product you own.
And damage caused by the buyer is the buyer's fault and therefore he can't ask for refunds based on that damage. In this case the damage is caused by the user. Thus, your argument is void.

>If you buy a chair and beside the contract to buy the chair, you also bindingly agree to only use the chair in previously determined ways and agree that ownership of the chair goes back to the previous owner, and that exact case to which you agreed happens, tough shit.

That would get thrown out of court in a second. The chair manufacturer would get fucked.

>Consumer protection law is supposed to protect a malinformed, or inferior consumer from being strong armed by enterprises. If the consumer is fully aware of what is going to happen and still signs a contract putting him into the hole, no consumer protection is going to help.
No, that is literally wrong. Just because a company puts in "if you sign this contract you are my slave" in the title, it is not enforceable.
You've been watching too many cartoons where a sneaky lawyer puts in a evil clause in the fine print .

>If you have any issues with the way contractual freedom works here, guess what. feel free to not contract at all with people like this. Video games are a pure luxury good. You can do without
I don't play modern video games, I just understand basic consumer law, stupid.

Dilate

OBESE

If you signed a legally binding agreement prior, freeing me from all contractual obligations regarding fixing your toilet, in case you say a specific word, that's how it would go.

this is a very good point thats not brought up between the shit slinging of corporate drones and self thought lawyers.

us gamers are too oppressed to afford a lawsuit like that

No it would be more like, while he is fixing the toilet you are screaming nigger in his ears

>you're really gunning for comparing physical venues and shows to video games. these are not the same products.
If you want real-world legal defense for products/services, you need to treat them like real world products and services.
>by no means is it intact. you broke my product. i can no longer enjoy it in the way it was meant to be used -> online
That's denial of service. It's ultimately legal in the scenario you're describing. You bought a product with a service component and lost access to the service. When you're kicked out of a theater, your movie ticket is effectively broken in a similar way even if you get to keep your bag of popcorn.
Denial of service isn't theft. When you're kicked out of an event or establishment, it's not theft.
If you say "well, videogames don't count because they're not real places", then they're also not beholden to any laws since they're effectively "not real." You can have it both ways: online games are either legally accountable services that have the exact same 1st amendment rights that other assemblies and associations have and are able to modify and deny service legally, or they're wild-west corporate dystopias that can eject whomever they want for any reason.
Good luck in your crusade.

OK sue them soi

See

>>lol no I will not sue
People don't sue because it's going to cost you everything while it costs the corporation nothing just for the judge to say "yeah this TOS is not legally binding, give the guy his $60 back or allow him to play again."

ITT: Retards who think not reading the rules and TOS of a product means they aren't bound to it.

>It's not. It's the product you own.
yes, that product is broken, because you came and broke it.
>And damage caused by the buyer is the buyer's fault and therefore he can't ask for refunds based on that damage.
yes i can. you can't damage something to the point it can't be used because i was mean.
>Be nice or I'll break it!

You agreed to the terms of service, user. Unfortunately for you, the terms of service include the right to deny you service if you insist on being a dingus, regardless of your purchase.

Videogames don't preemptively ban you. Are you fucking retarded?

>Go out to dinner
>food comes
>bussed by n*nwhites
>foam at the mouth and start shouting racial slurs at them
>kicked out and banned
>money stolen

How is this acceptable in any way?

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Because you can cause actual physical harm to a person in real life. If you walk up to someone in real life and punch them in the face, that's bad, but if you do it in a video game, it doesn't really matter. That's why reality is real and fiction is fake. Not sure why you feel the need to pretend to not understand this, and you wonder why people push back against your mentally ill ideology.

I said masturbation once in a game. Got banned from chat for 24hours

>Buy gym membership
>Insult other members
>Get thrown out

You buy a membership for their online service for their online service room, if you behave like an ape you get tjrown out and you have wasted your money deal with it, retard.

>Spending money on Games as a Service

Deserved it

the left can't meme

>Break Terms of Service
>Service terminated
h-huh?

>arguing about suing
some banned wowfag sued and got his acc back. So cease your ignorant squabbling peasants.

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I didn't even do anything wrong and had my account wiped on fallout 76

You're the one damaging it though.
You were given clear instructions on what not to do and you did it, thus the damage is your fault.
It's not hard to understand. If I assemble a chair wrong even though I had the instructions, it's not the seller causing damage but me, and therefore I can't ask for a refund.

>no consumer has ever sued a big corp ever
>class action lawsuits don't exist

millennials grew up with server browsers, mods and trash talking
zoomers are the ones who were raised by matchmaking and automated report button

We aren't talking about physical violence though. And if the treat of real life physical violence is the only reason you aren't calling people niggersfaggots in real life you are just a fucking pussy.

>Denial of service isn't theft.
it is. I don't know why you keep trying to say this. service is a product. keeping my money after cutting off my service is theft.
imagine i pay a $15 a month sub and get banned day 1, i paid for a months access and you want to keep my money while i can no longer use the product, you stole the rest of my money.

>1st amendment rights that other assemblies and associations
no one is making a constitutional claim here.

a merchant can refuse service. but once you took my money you can't break my product because i did something you told me not to do

>terms of service doesnt allow free speech
shit game from the get go

based, it's as if you're playing with other people and not by yourself

If the requirement is only assembly on a full moon is allowed then you're at fault for making retarded requirements.

>You're the one damaging it though.
I'm literally not the one that made the product useless.
What you're trying to say here is "well you started it."

This is a consumer rights issue that affects you no matter how much of a good boy you are.
Five years from now when the game you like shuts down and dies forever it won't matter how polite you were, the developers are going to tell you the same thing they say to these people who get banned: "go fuck yourself, you don't own the game you paid for".
I'm not even going to argue whether or not these companies should be banning people for toxic behavior on their servers, but all of this raises the question of why the developers have to be the ones running the servers to begin with. Why not just have community servers and let the players police themselves?

Saying nigger isn’t doing anything damaging lol it’s a word u fucking faggot it’s not breaking the game in anyway
Ur so gay

>I'm literally not the one that made the product useless
Well you didn't comply with the instructions, so yep.

No you're at fault for not reading the fine print, it's why you get a no questions asked refund if you return the product within a few days.

how is it not acceptable? that's what you agreed to.

hey that's a good idea

>Be nice or I'll break the product!
Bad argument.

Venire contra factum proprium. This saying describes the concept in law, that if you behave a certain legally relevant way, it does not matter what you think while doing it, or even what you yell while doing it. For example, by getting into a taxi and telling the driver to drive you to your destination, you contract with him, even when you keep muttering "but I won't pay you anything for it" while doing it. Or by stepping into a train or plane, you willfully enter into a transportation contract, even while loudly screaming "I am not buying a ticket for this".

t.neofag

>sign treaty of versailles without reading it
>start a war anyways and kill 6 gorillion jews
>ay lmao
>the allies invade and steal your concentration camps

Literally what the fuck is this shit, how is this legal?

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Stonetoss made a career off it

I don't want to call people niggers in real life because that isn't cheeky or fun. Calling them niggers on a video games chat is fun.
Did you dumb niggers not have a childhood or something?

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Your service was contingent on an agreement to which you gave your legal affirmation. If you violate said agreement, they can legally rescind your service without owing you anything in return. It's quite a racket, but you decided to go along with it when you scrolled all the way down and clicked "accept".

It's not bad, it's the legal way of looking at it.
Sorry.

game companies are fucking scum that abuses legally grey zone that are video games because its a relatively new industry. Only now authorities are starting to look into it with the whole lootbox shitfest
Imagine if apple would brick your precious $100 iphone if you sent an sms to your friend calling him a faggot. This is the future you choose

>say word
>get banned
Have you tried not saying anything? Is this not a viable strategy?

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>No you're at fault for not reading the fine print
huffpost.com/entry/legal-challenges-to-a-con_b_6425582
>While freedom of contract and the enforcement of contractual provisions are fundamental legal concepts, courts view their responsibility as including broader considerations of justice and fairness. These considerations may favor a party whose legal counsel challenges a contract’s “fine print.”

Under duress, I guess.
With software, you can't use the product unless you click to accept the EULA.

Holy shit. You people are insane, how many of you out there actually believe that you can sign your rights away in a contract? You can't!

>Talking to random shitters in the first place
>Not having a group of friends to play multiplayer games like this with to avoid getting banned for slipping a nigger or two
better yet
>Playing modern multiplayer games in the first place

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Zoomers also grew up with obese dyke millennial aunts with herpes, who they use an anti-role model.

>We aren't talking about physical violence though.
You're acting as if something on the internet might be real, which is why I used that example. As for the other thing, the reason you don't call someone a name in person is because that's real life, and they might take it seriously. But it isn't to be taken seriously at all on the internet.

that's not the same, it would be as if you called one of his other customers a nigger and he refused to fix your toilet the next week.

>Being this retarded
Learn to computer, retard.

Nigger

It's not illegal. You are using a service they provide. As such, they can remove said service if you do something they don't like.

A good example of this in action? No shirt, no shoes, no service. If a restaurant has that rule and you show up wearing only a pair of shorts and some socks, you get kicked out. And the law can do jack shit about it. As a matter of fact you can get kicked out of any business for any reason. All the business has to do is be vague about why they kicked you out.

In the case of online gaming? You're playing on someone elses servers. Thus you play by their rules. You break the rules, you get kicked out. And it's 100% legal.

*$1000

It is bad. You're confused. You cannot sell me something and then come and break it or prevent it from working in the way it was intended because I did something you don't like. That's what theft is.

they can do anything they want because all you did was pay to sign a EULA and you can get fucked

Racism is annoying not because of muh one race human race bullshit but because they insufferable faggots that only act out for attention

Here is how we solve this, instead of putting all the people who get reported into their own queue, we'll put the people who report others into *their* own queue instead.
That way all the cry-baby retards can have a safe space with all the other soi-children and the adults can carry on saying what they want to each other.

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>Don't question the rules goym!
>*slowly adds more and more restrictive rules*

I don't know why, but i laughed so fucking hard at this, thanks user.

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niggerfaggot detected

Yeah. What does this have to do with this where you break your shit?

stop :clap: comparing :clap: physical :clap: places :clap: to :clap: goods :clap: and :clap: services :clap:

I see what you're doing employing a time-based model in an attempt to modify your lost argument, but I'm not convinced.
It's not legally theft. If you want to interpret it as theft, go ahead, but that doesn't change it in a court. Some companies will pro-rate and offer partial refunds for time-based terms, but in many instances they don't and these instances aren't theft. If it's an non-specified amount of time (like most online games) the second you lose access, you're done.

Merchants take money all the time. There are plenty of services that ask money upfront for access and deny service if you act like a chimp. This is the reality of the world we live in.

>the legal way of looking at it
>t. fatass that never went to law school.

How do physical formats even work now? Aren't new games like sixty gigabytes?

>buy gun
>kill people
>get thrown in jail
what the hell man

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I'm a law student though. Are you?

I didn't break it retard, you did.
Stop trying the "you started it," argument.

The difference is you haven't paid for the service yet.

sounds like this nigger woke up on the wrong side of the bed

Denial of service isn't a rights violation.
Stop this.

You do realize that means it's up to a court of law to decide, right? As in, they can still decide the fine print is correct.

>break the instructions
>oh what do you mean I broke it?
Idk man.

>people still defend wrongthink bans
We are at the point where people got banned for writing GG. It's way tilted from where the sane middle ground would be.

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There is a whole lot of difference between an obviously unacceptable clause like "You are my slave" or "I am allowed to kill you" and stuff which boils down to "We are allowed to end buisness relations with you, which includes ongoing services regarding our products". By forcing the argument into absolute extremes, you make it a farce.

In german ToS for example, there are multiple levels for determining the validity of any ToS clause. From absolutely forbidden things, to things which need to undergo a weighing of interests. Up to special cases like unexpected or unclear clauses.
And ToS get attacked and overruled in front of courts all the time. Most corporations put a lot of effort into making sure to be as watertight as advantageous to them as possible while still being court-proof. Your vision of evil overlord corporations who put absolutely ridiculous things into their ToS as traps on the off-chance that a consumer actually believes it (e.g. becoming a slave for noncompliance), is way overdrawn.
Of course some ToS in use are exploitative and reprehensible. Which is a reason why most bigger enterprises make use of compliance lawyers to make sure they keep within what they can get away with.

>This is literally the same as saying words on Cock of Duty.

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>but that doesn't change it in a court.
neither does it make your assertion that you are correct. thats exactly where this argument would be settled. the reason it isn't settled is because no one really bothers to challenge flimsy terms of services in court over $60 or less.

its not fair bros

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If you can convince a court of law to uphold your continued use of an online video game as a legal right, then more power to you.

blu ray holds something like 70 gigs also I got rdr2 recently it has a fucking install disk and a play disk

>I'm a law student
>t. fat ass larping to give weight to his argument.

?
Yes they can.
They do this with any place with an access pass. The second they deny service the access pass is effectively broken or modified.

In my 25 years of playing online games, I have never been banned. You can trash talk without going too far or resorting to racial slurs; I feel like anyone trying to justify that is probably one of 'those guys' who has a hard time separating Yea Forums memes from their daily discussions with their echo chamber of a friend circle and can't go 5 seconds without posting crime statistics charts or screaming nigger. You're given a Terms of service to read and agree to comply yo before you even start playing the fucking game which also includes termination of your rights to play if you're that much of an ass to ignore warnings or get extreme enough. Spend less time being ostentatious and more time getting gud; don't be that guy, user. It's just Vidya.

I didn't agree to it, I just clicked "accept" to be able to play the game I bought.

>Want to get social thing
>buy social thing from business
>business lets me enjoy social thing with other owners of social thing
>harass other owners of social thing by calling them "niggers, faggots" etc
>company doesn't allow me to enjoy social thing with other owners of social thing anymore

WOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW LITERALLY THEFT WHAT THE FUCK HELP I'M BEING CENSORED

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Wasn't that you though? You brought this up, as if it was relevant.

good luck getting a judge to back up your handshake deal. promises are worth the paper they are written on

stop confusing rules as instructions.
you made a rule that i can't say something, you didn't instruct me on how to use something.

>Denial of service isn't a rights violation.
That's completely debatable and subject to change. If enough people care about this and they see it as a rights violation, then the laws would change.

Also, the law isn't reality, like people are trying to act in this thread. The law is a system created by people in order to maintain social stability and guarantee peoples' rights. There is the law, morality, and physical reality, which are all totally different concepts.

Act like a nigger, get treated like one.

>moving the goalpost
Nice, nobody ever said they should be continued service. They're arguing for reimbursement.

>The principle of the matter is that your right to enjoy the game ends where other's right to enjoy the game begins
Lol
No it fucking doesn’t

You started by confusing products as services
And damage as a relevant term in services

OKay, nigger.

no it isn't because we do not own that. that is the property of the copyright holder. what we own is basically a service agreement that allows us to use a copy of that information.

This isn't the 90s or the 00s anymore, the internet is real life and even your grandma is on it. Why are you still acting like the internet is some 1337 hax0r sekrit club?

My assertion thst it's legal is based on the reality of every day business and service operation. Your assertion is based off of your opinion. Do you see the difference?

Too bad you're not the one who decides that sweetie

have sex

>Why are you still acting like the internet is some 1337 hax0r sekrit club?
I'm not, but you're acting like mugging someone in a video game is akin to doing it in real life, and you're shocked, bewildered, and confused that someone would push back against this idea.

Well perfect. That means everyone who has complains can't have their fun by banning them because that would be at their expense.

Racism is not bad.

you still got your food though. they didn't take away the product you purchased.

If being able to play the game is considered a legal right, then being denied the ability to play it would be grounds for reimbursement, maybe even legal damages if you have a good lawyer. If it is not a legal right, then the developer is within their rights to refuse you service without reimbursement, as dictated by the agreement accepted by the player.

You are choosing to have no power

>I can't contain my power level for five seconds and not sperg out
>I will not proceed to bitch about it on Yea Forums
People like you should be sterilized.

I'm genuinely happy you understand, if not, enjoy your future bans; just don't complain about them.

EULAs, user. Plain and simple.

It is an open secret in the industry that tech firms are terrified of having their ToS challenged in a court of law because they know they aren't legally enforceable.

That's why even the hint that a consumer will seriously take them to court results in a complete capitulation and restoration of their rights.

It's much like copyright law and take down notices. Companies uses these legal devices in unintended ways as a tool, knowing that most people are too poor and busy to fight back.

Yep. Happens all the time. You don't need to agree to terms to be subject to them however. You don't sign paperwork to get into a club or establishment, but they can take your money and kick you out legally.

>>I can't contain my power level for five seconds and not sperg out
Nobody like this exists, and only SJWs think they do.

If you yell niggerfaggot you're gonna get thrown out of the restaurant or any other public place

>That's legal, that's the law.
it isn't law it's a stupid fucking license you mong shrink wrap agreements aren't legal either

A thing nobody ever does

You really think the complaints will stop, nigger-retard?

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I thought we were talking about speaking to people, why do you keep deflecting to physical stuff? I have never once compared them.

In most games you only get a chat or temporary ban, only faggot companys like bethesda give perma bans for it.

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>Accept the end user agreement.
>Do something thats violates the rules in the user agreement.
>Gets punished in a way you agreed to if you break the user agreement.

You read the user agreement and it told you what is allowed and what is not.
Why did you do the thing they warned you about not doing.

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Denial of service happens every day. There are times when it's illegal: you can't deny service based on discriminatory grounds. You can if someone is being disruptive. This is why the 2nd Amendment was created.

The law may not be reality, but companies can remove you for being an insufferable faggot.

So we can only talk about one thing? You're the one deflecting. I talk about one thing, make the point, move on to the next, and you accuse me of "deflecting". You have not actually responded to a single thing I've said yet.

The problem with hating Nazis is that some individuals will go around and label everyone and everything that they don't like as a Nazi or as Nazi dogwhistling in order to justify violence against wrongthink.

The problem with this problem, however, is that Nazis ARE bad, and /pol/, and by extension a large part of the alternative conservative right wing, are quite literally wannabe Nazis. You can complain all you want about how the left calls everybody Nazis but in this instance they're literally right there for fuck's sake.

Did I say that, moron? Stop inventing scenarios to get upset over for the sake of massaging your rage boner over. It's embarrassing and makes you look like a pretentious faggot.

The problem here isn't the lack of free speech, it's the fact that you purchased something yet never actually received ownership to it, just an access to what should be your property. Humans work in such a way that power is the defining boundary in what will truly happen in a given scenario, and if someone has power over you, it's only a question of "when" and not "if" to use it in his favor. Notice how you can buy a house and scream "niggerfaggot" inside as much as you want and no one can do anything against you, because it's your own property and you're not intruding on the rights of other properties.

The same is with companies. You gave them power, or rather ownership, of your property, so it was only a matter of time before they started abusing it for personal benefit, as eliminating "toxicity" from their games is actually a very profitable strategy of attracting casual players. What should happen is that we should be given full ownership of whatever software we pay for, as in "I get to send it to whoever I want for completely free without breaking the law or any retarded copyright meme" and if that's not possible, then paid software just wasn't meant to exist, else you end up in a reality like this where your money doesn't actually buy anything which is some meme version of capitalism, where a product's price is completely unmoved by supply and demand because nothing is actually fucking being sold and the supply of nothing is infinite, yet the price doesn't move down to zero.

User agreements should not infringe upon the rights of the users.

Yet people yell it over the mic, even though multiplayer games are pretty much a public event if you come down to it

>Misread a post
>Calling others a retard

The irony is so thick you can build a fucking house with it

They aren't literally nazis because they aren't literally germans that are a part of a socialist party. This is real simple stuff man.

>I paid $30, so the server should be my property

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You can't say anything bad about the implementation of capitalism or about the greed of people trying to sell you things, or else that makes you a literal communist.

You don't even understand your own rights to justify complaining about this. It is legal for them to ban your dumb ass to preserve the happiness of other users to mitigate legal repercussion. You're not the only one playing, despite acting like you are.

You can't own a service

who actually sits down and reads hundreds of pages of ToS? Contrarians need not reply

>Just don't complain about them
Yeah, you said that, inbred-retard.

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Bitch please, braindead degenerates like OP who only posts threads like these to get a reaction are just as bad as the people who see it and believe in it. They see it, they repeat it, and we get more 500 post long threads like this that are a toss up between reasonable people banging their heads against the wall in frustration and poopflinging monkeys banging their heads because it makes their nuts tingle with every impact.

To say they don't exist is like saying Yea Forums doesn't exist. Read the writing on the wall and then shut the fuck up, you endlessly droning nitwit.

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Every contract containing duties for you "infringes" on your rights in some way. If you buy something you are forced to pay for it.
There are only very few contracts bearing no obligations for one party. Like gifting. And even then there are cases where legal consequences can hit the recipient.

>the right and Fox calls call Obama socialists for years
>suddenly the public likes socialism and likes a real socialist like Bernie Sanders

>the left and MSNBC call anyone they don't like Nazis for years
>suddenly the public doesn't mind Trump and far right candidates

I mean, this should have been obvious a a decade ago. But nobody can help themselves from the good feeling of calling anyone they don't like literally Hitler/Stalin

You didn't even read my post, faggot. This is simple stuff.

>Post says don't complain.
>Respond that the complaints won't stop.
>According to nigger-tranny-retards, I misread the post.
Pic related, it's literally you.

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Well, yes we shpuld adress this before moving on to other topic? What haven't ai adressed? I already said that internet verbal interactions are basically the same as IRL, especially now when most interactions happen online anyway.
I agree with you that physical interactions on the internet are not real in the sense that they can't actually harm you.

What you are arguing for is called theft. You payed money to play the game, denying it denies the purchase and you are entiled to be reimbursed.

I did, you said the people in /pol/ are literally nazis even though the have more in common with the right wing "red-scare" anti-communists that hated the nazis more than anyone. You're literally too dumb to drive, please hand in your license at the DMV.

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Imagine if your grocery store came to your house and took your groceries because you said nigger.

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I mean if you paid money in a restaurant, began yelling nigger before getting food, and got thrown out for that, would you be at fault?

By all means, bitch all you want. Just don't expect it to do anything besides make you look like a child throwing a tantrum after getting their you taken away. I'm only warning you that it's just pointless and an exercise in futility to even do it out of some kindness in my heart. Why bother wasting time getting mad and upset when you could be playing some good Vidya gaems?

You paid money to play the game and play it you did, unless you somehow got banned before opening the game for the first time.

gamers rise up!!!

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Have sex

Duties do not infringe upon my rights. If I agree to pay money in exchange for a good or service, I am no more forced to pay than the other party is forced to provide.
Okay nice strawman, I dunno who you're replying to but it's not to any of the posts I've made. Anyway I'll restate: User agreements should not infringe upon the rights of users

Good thing they wouldn't have paid the check yet. Which is all people are asking for here.
If you an someone for saying nigger from playing the game, refund them the cost of the game.