Daily reminder that Banjo is a shoo-in for Smash DLC, literally the most requested character not in so far

did someone say the b-word?

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20,000 votes from a bunch of greasy american basement dwellers represents the desires of over 10 millions current smash owners.

What did i expect? Did i really think people here know about basic math or even that anecdotal non evidence like this is literally useless?

You forgot the spirits

as of what? I thought Sora overtook him recently

Dude, lets not lower to the level of Steve supporters, unless you’re next level delusional and are in fact a Steve supporter falseflagging, I wouldn’t be surprised honestly.

>getting a new game this year
>got numerous crossovers very recently
>satisfies sakurai's nes era hard-on
>already from a game with a lot of fighting in it, so moveset is all but pre-made
>stars are pretty much aligned for their inclusion
>steve-vs-banjo-fags still think it's only about them
why haven't YOU accepted the chaddletoads already, user?

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spirits
and Decidueye got incinecucked

And people wonder why the rosterfags cheer behind Banjo is louder than it's ever been?

None of the other rosterfags even come close in their obnoxiousness.

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they don't own ff6, mega man 2, or re4, but those all made the top 10.

And square's jewery deconfirms sora, thank fuck

Banjo does not target a new demographic for Nintendo. He will not be DLC. Maybe in Smash 6

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>square's jewery
>not Disney
yeah okay

disney is willing to give out their lisences to anyone who gives them money. that's why we got wreck it ralph in sonic and sega all stars racing transformed

This is the only thing that keeps me from agreeing with OP. Depends on what Nintendo means by "emblematic". Is it in the sense of only recent, new release, corporate shill picks?
You could say "Well Banjo targets a demographic in the form of the Xbox players, being exclusive to them currently" but that's a hard stretch. I want Banjo, but feel more inclined to believe the former option.

Double jewpardy

>literally has Joker in because sakurai likes him among the picks of Nintendo
>corporate shill

Someone who plays platformers > a new demographic

Solved

user, it’s just pr talk because it true for all characters

>among the picks of Nintendo
that's what I mean. Could Banjo even make that list?

>New demographics
>first was fatlus fags who'll buy anything...
>next is gachafags since they'll buy everything

I don't care about circlejerked characters in Yea Forums, I'm just talking about how "corporate shill" is a poor example with the current character we have

Why not? Who is “nintendo”?

rosterfag logic: any character that isn't circlejerked by rosterfags is either a "shill pick" (if it's new) or a "joke character/insult to the fans" (if it's old). either way, it's a "waste of a roster spot."

You can't honestly be acting like the game that has Mario, sonic, and megaman doesn't already appeal to platformerfags

Glad to not be a retarded smash fag.

Quit posting fan polls. It’s not a substantial enough source to hold steady ground. It always comes from literal who’s and should be laughed at, this goes for stevelets and banjoids

>next is gachafags
>fire emblem heroes
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

honestly I don't even know why I entered here since the OP is a clear indicator of the kind of thread. I guess I just enjoy bile.

It was an example, There aren’t really new demographics that I can think off... We have shooters, puzzle games, platformers, adventure games, retro games, rpg’s, strategy games etcetc.

What would a “new demographic” be?

>irrelevant puppet from obscure game at 2
>another anime swordsman at 3
>hat goomba at 4
What kind of retards voted in this?

I'm here to target the doujinshi community

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>Shadow
It would have been so easy.

>all star, memorable characters
This falls apart when you look at Fire Emblem

>puzzle games
dr mario doesn't count, user

Demographics aren't the same as genres man...

he's in

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I mean, he is a very recent character who has no history with Nintendo, and was not anywhere to be seen on fans polls. It could have just been coincidence that Sakurai likes him.
I imagine they're the awful fags who pushed Corrin.
They could always just put on the theoretical 'list' given to Sakurai: (Microsoft character) and from there he picked Banjo, but I'm thinking that's his best hope.

Furfags!

HES IN

Nintendo already said they only want to prioritize zoomers and casuals, banjo won't be in

>Battletoads music in Smash
Go on...

>implying Pokemon and sonic didn't already cover that

Ok, well we have childs, women, trannies, old ass people and self mutilating gender benders.

THEYRE ALL REPRESENTED

Wakey wakey Banjofags. It's almost over

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Don't mind me while I be an autist and imagine a reveal video for them

>the Smash invites have been piling up in Banjo-Kazooie's mail box for years
>Banjo has slept through it all/hasn't checked the mail while Kazooie's been trying to wake him up/get him to check the mail
>she finally succeeds and they set off to the join the fight

Pretty simple but I think it would be a cool sequence.

>Sakurai would rather put in a literal faceless goon then someone anyone would have cared about
Good. I'm glad Sakurai makes the game he wants rather than validate the retards that think Geno and Isaac in Smash are a good idea

Source or GTFO, hint: he never said such a thing

Here to target the VNs community.

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>banjo

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Yeah and look what happened to Geno and Issac.

suicidal and abused zoomers are already represented with the question mark character, sorry user

Good thing Banjo has that covered thanks to e-celebs.

>Banjo
>Geno
>Isaac
Is this the triforce of shit taste?

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>Fan demand and the personal backing of the man in charge of the Xbox vs BUT HE HAD A CROSSOVER WITH SHOVEL KNIGHT
lel

exactly. People don't realize Sakurai doesn't give a fuck, he adds what he wants. Look at the FE reps compared to LOZ, this should not be, yet Sakurai wants it. We got ROB over anything people want. We keep getting Maryh Clones because Shitkurai wants it.

Shovel Knight is a fucking assist trophy, yet we get Inshiteroar instead because that HACK wanted a wrestling moveset in the game. The first DLC character is a nobody generic blade user that no one gave a shit about over anything anyone wanted.

If popularity polls mattered for DLC selection
We wouldn't have Joker

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>new consumer demographics

they're in

>Hayabusa
nostalgiabait and has been playable in recent games on Nintendo consoles
>Terry
SNK Heroines, late 2018
>Jill
Revelaitons 1 & 2, late 2017
>Astolfo
Fate/Extella Link, 2019

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Uhhhhh I don’t feel so good

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Every character for the base game will be fan demand because Sakurai said he consulted the ballot this time 2.0

GoldenEye, Conker & Perfect Dark all made the list but Banjo didn't

Or Piranha Plant

>hey do you want your character in smash
>yea sure
>ITZ HIZ FAVE LOOOL

>a new demographic
he's in

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She's in.

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wtf? Conker wasn't even released in japan. source to this list?

the only reason joker is in is because sakurai is fucking BASED

>literally who characters
hahahahahaha

I gave up my invite for this shit?

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Nice try banjocucks

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>hating on ROB and incineroar
>wants shovel knight
rushdown niggers should die

I rather prefer to see pierce brosnan in smash before the bear and bird

Highly requested by who? The neckbearded rosterfags who make these polls and ask for garbage like Geno?

>Geno
>Sora
>Skull Kid
>Paper Mario
>Sans

CRINGE, I can perfectly picture the low test c u c k s who voted, their thick rimmed glasses, their s o y beards and "hoype smile". Kys you're of selves.

ROB is boring and Incelroad is just bara furry garbage

>Brought it up several times, once unprompted in an interview, treats it as the obvious and only choice for an MS character in Smash
>Is the one Nintendo will be negotiating with
>I-It doesn't mean anything
My sides.

A Microsoft character isn't a guarantee but it IS a guarantee that an MS character in Smash would be Banjo and Kazooie as long as Phil Spencer steers the ship.

hey guys, I'm here for the meme community

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>It could have just been coincidence that Sakurai likes him.

did you literally forget that it's his final say on who gets to be in right? did you really think Nintendo only picked 5 characters?
twitter.com/sora_sakurai/status/1059958604818657282?lang=en

>Shovel Knight is a fucking assist trophy, yet we get Inshiteroar instead because that HACK wanted a wrestling moveset in the game.
how dare that "hack" prioritize gameplay functions in a game!

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Geno, Skull Kid and Sans are shit, but Sora and Paper Mario would be awesome (as long as Paper Mario is based on the originals)

T.Dickaxe

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>ANOTHER Mario and ANOTHER anim7 sword guy

No

>"Muh list" retardation still exists
Neck yourself dumbass. That's obviously talking about him determining whether it's physically possible to implement them.

"I decide if we can create a fighter"=/="I decide if I want to make the fighter"

san

That's what I meant.
>Nintendo makes the list
>Puts Joker on it as one of the selections, because he's new, recent, and profitable
>Sakurai makes sure to pick him as one of the 5, since he's a fan

It's a crossover first and foremost.

Those are the most faggy picks I have ever seen

I haven't been in Smash threads since the final direct. How is Steve shitposting still going on?

Makes me wonder who Nintendo could've picked that would possibly make Sakurai say "No, no...no. There's no possible way I can make a moveset for this"
Considering we have fucking plant

so that means it's not a shill pick since Sakurai included him through the bottom of his heart

There's another interview where he explicitly says him picking among them. Also are you seriously saying they only picked 5? Because that's not how things work.

Tbh I'd be more open to the idea of Shovel knight being playable then the Wrestling Cat

Don't get me wrong, he's fun and all even though his design is shit but I'd like to see how a knight wielding a shovel would work

There is no list you fucking tard.

Nintendo came to Sakurai with a selection of 5 fighters, he looked it over and said "yeah I can make these work"

No, it's a game first and foremost.

it's a game first and foremost, so a new moveset that adds something unique to the gameplay SHOULD be valued more than your autismal indieshit.

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Yes and? Also note that the poster you replied is a faggot in claiming Incineroar only a function.

Based on the poster counts of these threads? 5-10 seethers holding the torch.

Stevefags attacked Banjofags. They didn't react well to someone pointing out that Steve would be pure logically speaking more likely than Banjo, and now it's basically a constant flamewar between the two.
Stevefags are trolling the Banjofags but they just don't stop falling for the bait.

YOUR FAGGOT BEAR WILL NEVER BE IN SMASH HAHAHAHAHA

it's happened before in the past. heihachi didn't get into smash 4 because they couldn't make a workable moveset for him no matter how hard they tried.

>it's a game first and foremost
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sakurai doesn't give a damn about the mechanics of this series

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Discord and sour losers who didnt get their pick in and want to shit on the current most popular choice.

Yes and?

Reminder that online polls can easily be rigged and unofficial polls mean nothing.

Would they put in Nick after he him already being in MVC3? Also I would KILL for Rayman but sadly, probably never ever.

I don't know, I see people bringing up a discord full of those Stevefags so I assume a bunch of people are just constantly shitposting every time they see Banjo getting mentioned which causes seething and any time someone not a Stevefag mentions Banjo probably not getting in they're accused of being a Stevefag

It really keeps the flames burning

Stevefags are delusional/shitposting fucks who enjoy shitting on Banjofags

Banjofags are some of the only never ever OGs left and everyone has suddenly turned on them and have no one to defend them

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>literally sakurai's own character
>"it's a crossover first"
lmao nice

NOOOOO DELET THIS BANJO TOPS ALL THE UNOFFICIAL POLLS THAT MEANS HE'S IN FUCK YOU

None of us know exactly how the process went, you brainless ape. If Sakurai said "I decide if we can make a fighter from the selection" that implies Nintendo had a larger list of characters to choose from in case he denied one of the selected 5.

Why are always the results different

The statement contradicts itself:

What new “demographic” does Joker belong to?

If we play by that game Banjo and Kazooie would fit the bill now that they’re property of Microsoft, that’s a whole new demographic!

>It's a game first and foremost
ahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Shut the fuck up it's his turn.

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but he does. that's why he added a wrestler, to add to the mechanics of the series.

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>What new “demographic” does Joker belong to?
personachads.
>If we play by that game Banjo and Kazooie would fit the bill now that they’re property of Microsoft, that’s a whole new demographic!
manchildren aren't a new demographic, they're the core demographic of smash.

Rumored Erdrick wouldn’t be a different demographic either

Look pal I love both N64 banjo games, I collected all jiggles in both games, He lost his chance when rare sold his soul to the green devil, he was doomed to bad games and lame cameos and never showing in smash.
Instead of bothering Nintendo about him not being in smash you and all Banjo fans should be demanding Microsoft to relinquish all Rare IP

Persona has been Sony exclusive since its inception, so he targets JRPG fans and Sony enthusiasts.
The only people who care for Banjo are Nintendo fans. Banjo has not seen any success with Microsoft and Xbots only care for FPS's.

Yes and? What are you trying to show?

Okay. Looks to me like it's just a case of Banjofags responding to bait.
Why do retards respond to obvious bait? That's the exact reason why they don't stop kek

see, THIS is a good example.

You work for me now Banjoke.

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Have you considered the possibility that none of the DLC will actually be heavily requested characters?

Wait. Where's Steve?

You just make it up as it comes huh? Oh well, guess we’ll see soon enough either way

Everyone but the trap is at least plausible, although I wouldn't count on Terry.

In the game.

My husband is my assist trophy, I was gonna let him be a skin but.. well *blushes* Banjo Senpai had other idea.

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Just disappointing enough to be true

cope

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What?

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I don’t care I’m just pointing out the obvious holes while the rest is shitposting.

To bring up a question, what would happen if for the final character neither Banjo or Steve got in, and instead due to the universe conspiring to meme, we somehow got fucking Bubsy in instead?

>One of the best attachment rates for a game in Nintendo's history
>Have you considered Nintendo isn't going to add any characters that will sell gangbusters to the fuckload of people who already own the game?
Based retard

Who or what?

I think it's funny just how desperate people are to deny a square rep because cloud didn't get any extra spirits or whatever.

A DLC deal is a totally different thing. Even without whispers from leakers/rumors, a Square rep makes perfect sense with all of the properties they're sitting on, especially one as big as Dragon Quest.

Reminder Smashfags:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_highest-grossing_video_game_franchises

>Dragonquest at #22
>Smash Bros at #39

If we're really honest here I didn't see anyone requesting Joker to be in smash
There was very little push for persona in general let alone Joker himself

There's a reason they are selling passes, because they know no one owuld buy the characters individually so they hace to trick people intobying before they know what they biu
or maybe everything will be bad shill characters meant to sell shitty games

I dunno, can you name a character specifically put in to attract Eastern players? That's been a thing for the West but none for them that I can think of.

See Nintendo already knows that fanboys will eat whatever shit they're served.

Try again, now try to be coherent

There are definitely RPG purists who are not interested in Smash Brothers.

It also serves as multi-facted approach, not just appealing to new demographics but also enticing DQ fans to get a Switch because of the definitive edition of DQXI.

And then you have to consider that they want to expand DQ's audience to the west, especially with the amount of time they gave DQ in the last direct. They might see a Smash Bros character as a foot in the door. They may feel the time is ripe/it's worth a shot, even if it doesn't fully pay off this is their best bet if they want to reintroduce DQ to the west.

Enough Erdrick

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I can make up 3 imaginary demographics for each character you want.

Can somebody please explain to me how Persona fans and Smash fans don't overlap?

They're both 19-34 year olds with body odor
And historically its been very uncommon to own a handheld and zero homebound gaming platforms, and with Nintendo being all handheld now, there's no doubt that much of the Switch's fanbase owns either an Xbox, Playstation, or PC, and given that Playstation beats out the Xbone and Gaming PCs for ownership, statistically speaking it stands to reason that a hefty percentage of Switch owners own a PS4, and the majority percentage of Switch owners (19-34 year old males) are a demographic that Persona attracts, and given that this was the most successful international performance for the Persona series, even more PS4 and by extension primarily multiplatform Switch owners than normal are fans of the series

You can mathematically prove that Persona and Smash fanbases overlap, this statement is nothing but empty business speak to make the shareholders happy. They're just trying to make the shareholders think/understand that their continued support of Smash Brothers isnt just going to make money off of pure DLC sales but drive more base game sales as well. (Since the game will frankly continue to sell to new players regardless of post-game support because it's a Nintendo multiplayer staple like Mario Kart and a large majority of the people who buy their console intend to get those two games.) I'd be willing to bet money shareholders probably said something dumb like "well Smash Bros sells a shitload on this platform so you should pump out a new one as fast as possible, because a new retail game is more pure profit than your DLC model" and they responded by basically saying "well our DLC isn't going to just sell to current buyers but entice new people to buy the whole game as well" to shut them up

You're insane if you think Nintendo is going to completely ignore current owner's interests when its one of the best selling Nintendo games ever

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Nintendo litterally owned Banjo until they realized he wasn't worth it and sold his ass to Microsoft

Banwho has no chance, give up grinchfags 2.0

Rest in piss Erdrick.

square is a bunch of diva bitches. it shouldn't surprise anyone at all if nintendo/sakurai don't even bother trying to negotiate with them for another character.

The whole statement is so open-ended, I can't even see how people are making things of it.
You could twist and interpret it almost anyway you want. Hell, even against Steve.
>Minecraft is already on the most recent Nintendo consoles, has various crossover content, and everyone loves it so putting in Steve wouldn't be pandering to a new crowd
>Banjo on the other hand has been strictly an Xbox character as of late, so putting him in would appeal to that demographic!
I can do it vice-versa too:
>Banjo only appeals to manchildren/oldfags who already have the game. There's no new demographic.
>If they put in Steve however, it'll reel in all the kids who don't have Smash yet!
We only have one character. It's far too early to be making up rules, but I guess that's what smashfags do.

This
Brawl didn't save the best for last
Smash 4's base roster didn't save the best for last (and had Corrin as one of the last DLC characters)
Ultimate's base roster didn't save the best for last
They want to sell the fighters pass early so they start with a surprise character, than a fairly hyped up character, than another one, until the fourth or fifth being whimpers in comparison
Probably a first party or a niche character they know only appeals to a small group
If Banjo isn't the second or third, chances are he's fucked

GIVE ME BACK MY WIFE BANJO, NTR IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

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Old Japanese people

>actual new, good OC involving Steve

am I dreaming

>Ultimate's base roster didn't save the best for last
yes it did.

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Here is the entire 285 games, in order

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>plant
>base roster

>Smash 4's base roster didn't save the best for last (and had Corrin as one of the last DLC characters)
What a funny way of ignoring Bayonetta's big reveal being the last character for Smash 4's DLC

Face it, historically a big reveal has been saved for the end of the DLC. Cloud was also pretty late into the DLC

That's actually really hot, does anyone have vore porn of him? Or a source?

>Stevefags are delusional/shitposting fucks who enjoy shitting on Banjofags
>Banjofags are some of the only never ever OGs left and everyone has suddenly turned on them and have no one to defend them

Hmm, I'm sensing a little bit of bias here.

Steveposters are...DELUSIONAL?
And Banjoids "have no one to defend them".

Oh yes, the poor, poor Banjo boys. Innocent, alone in the cold, with nooooooooobody left to defend them.

Man FUCK banjo niggers!
Stevechads are where it's at.
You assholes are the delusional ones and you're converting normal people into Stevechads just by accusing them the second they try and correct you and say Banjo isn't that all likely, because they're right.

Banjo is a fucking longshot at this point and there's no bullshit reason you can pull out of your ass to prove otherwise. No matter how much you attack other characters, Banjo's chances won't increase. You're like Hillary Clinton at this point. You think bringing down the other candidates will make you more likeable. It wont.

I'M
WITH
BEAR

GUH-HUH

fuck off you bear-brained birdfucker.

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>Call of Duty #3
Soap's in
>Fifa #12
Cristiano Ronaldo is in
>Digimon #19
Agumon is in

Banjo has been getting merch unlike ever. Cope.

What's the point of saving the best for last if it wouldn't mean people aren't gonna buy the entire pass?

See , Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about Banjo. It's the only n64 Rare game that wasn't listed

It's just a game lol.

GREETINGS, PUNY EARTHLINGS OF Yea Forums! We have come to remind you that we are another day closer to Space Invader (yes, THE Space Invader) getting confirmed in Smash Ultimate! Make sure to save your mercy begging for the upcoming Fighter Pass when Space Invader invades the spotlight!

>b-but Steve is super-important to the gaming industry! He’s gotta be in! “NO.”

FEEBLE EARTHLING! Why would Nintendo choose a character who hasn't made as nearly as big of an impact than the Space Invaders have, and is nowhere near as recognizable and mainstream as them? Keep in mind that without Space Invaders, your little blockhead (as well as many, many other Smash staples) wouldn't likely even EXIST! And don't think you're safe, either, Banjolings. The DLC characters have also been confirmed to be “surprising” according to the developers, so we're afraid your "popularity" wanks for Steve and Banjo are going to be obliterated with the reveal of one of the most influential and recognizable video game enemies of all time! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, EARTHLINGS. YOUR TEARS ONLY STRENGTHEN US.

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>merch

We're getting characters outside of the Nintendo rosterfaggotry circlejerk. Is that so difficult to understand? Whether Steve is in that category is open to debate, but Banjo is fucking done.

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>implying people aren't going to spend gangbusters on the entire pack simply because it's Smash DLC, regardless of who the characters actually are
I think you underestimate this fanbase, user

And you're just a braindead bearnigger

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i just want characters who are fun to play, i couldn't give a rat's ass who they are or what they're from

You have to be mentally challenged to think Corrin sold as much as Cloud.
They may be safe from entirely flopping salewise, but Nintendo is still going to want to maximize profits.

>but he's not X! but he's Y!
of all the people rulefags are by far the worst. There are no longer any rules, save for the character being in the pool of characters that Nintendo gave to sakurai to pick from.

And even then, we don't know about how this pool was picked, so there's no rules about getting into the pool... so no rules overall anyways

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>Sakurai: We heard loud and clear from our fans they want a Rare rep in Smash
>unveils this
your reaction?

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>COD at 3
We made it CODchads
Who will be our rep? I'm in favor of Richtofen myself.

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>Fighters that cannot be realized

How many of you faggets voted for Rance?

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>Mass reply asspain
You guys sure are getting defensive lately

Is his final smash rubberbanding

>trips checked
Banjo is in.

every time

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Rulefaggotry is making up rules based on arbitrary patterns. These are statements given straight from Nintendo. Ignoring them means ignoring the truth.

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the fuck? I am not even in favor of Banjo in Smash (Chief fag here, and I know he has no chance), nut still, how the fuck did Conker made it to that list over the Banjo games?

"I consulted the roster while selecting characters this time" - Masahiro Sakurai on his approach to Smash Ultimate's base game

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I don't get this. Every person who wants Banjo doesn't like Incineroar for some reason? That's not true for me, at least.

Probably not as much, but it most likely still made bank pretty handily by just being Smash DLC

Not every reveal can be Cloud, and Joker sure as hell wasn't

Guys, don't believe this alt right fake news nazi trash
I have NEVER seen those top 3 in ANY of our Discord polls EVER
It's probably all just /pol/ trying to fuck with us

>"animal crossing characters can't be in smash"
>"ridley can't be in smash"

>No joker, Isabelle, pirahna plant, or incineroar in sight
Every time you fags post a fan poll it hurts your argument rather than helping it

the ballot*

The absolute STATE of Banjofags.

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Wtf is this, I don’t even...

If this is supposed to be our competition I spit on it!

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He did not say that every character selection in the base roster was off the ballot. In the DLC's case, Nintendo made it clear that each character was selected in the same vein as Joker. ie: targeting new demographics

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I really want to believe that stupid Google Theory just for Artorias, but I know better.

Those were statements made years ago before Smash 4's development. The statements in were recent and have been made after the DLC has been finalized

>but nintendo said words shareholders like to hear, that totally impacts the smash roster!
You can't say who qualifies for "new demographics" anyways so my point still stands.
There's no way to prove who is in the pool of characters and who isn't.

Then you must not have been around for the Grinch/Incineroar's reveal.

Everybody was assmad because the direct ended on a "flat note" with Incineroar.

People didn't want any more pokemon reps. Memeowl fans wanted Decidueye instead if it had to be a Gen VII Pokemon. Incineroar was rumored at/leaked and nobody wanted to believe it but EVERYBODY wanted to wish Muh Banjo and Muh Geno and Muh Isaac were in instead.

Yet Incineroar and a fucking plant came through and annihilated the lot of the roster fags. Now all they have left is Banjo and they're still assmad over Incinniechads.

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>No no no no no you see THIS time my astrology tier predictions based on vague statements by Nintendo will come true

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Based

Based incinechad poster STILL working grinchie refugees 7 months later

>"I consulted the ballot when selecting characters"
>He did not say that every character selection in the base roster was off the ballot
>"We added characters who will draw in new customers"
>These are statements given straight from Nintendo. Ignoring them means ignoring the truth.

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>You can't say who qualifies for "new demographics
I can't, but I doubt that Nintendo's business advisors will think Banjo Kazooie in smash will attract new people, compared to characters that are typically on other gaming platforms.

>Not using Banjo's most recent appearance

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It's funny because even Jet Force Gemini made the list ahead of Banjo

You missed a very important statement on the DLC
>Persona 5's Joker is emblematic of Smash Bros Ultimate's DLC approach

You mean this?

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>chad
>even after gamefreak poured all of their marketing budget on trying to make him popular he wasn't even top 10 most popular sun/moon pokemon
>STILL not after getting into Smash

>REEE ROSTERFAG FUCK YOU

All of what I said applied before he was announced for Smash. Inceniroar never is and never will be popular no matter how much Gamefreak tries.

They didn't for Simon. Or Pac-Man.

No, I mean this. You know, his most recent GAME appearance.

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These polls mean nothing.

Meaning what? They're all going to be anime weapon users?
Characters moreso related to other consoles?
Characters wearing masks?
What the secret here?

It doesn't matter whether Incineroar is popular or not. The whole point was that GameFreak/The Pokemon Company/Masuda himself had been shilling him non-stop prior to his reveal and everyone was trying to downplay it.

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Just like you have to post cartoon Pac-Man if you talk about him in Smash?

The fighter pass will come and go, there wouldn't be any sign of Banjo, Steve nor any Microsoft rep for that matter, because the only reason we are discussing this is for that stupid leak war between the Steve sources like Hitagui "no ATLUS rep for DLC" and Vergeben of "Minecraft content in the BAS game, namely a Boss" and no "Link's Awakening remake" fame, against the... sigh, the Grinch Leak.

Why, in the bloody hell are we still discussing the posibility of a Microsoft rep? Nintendo and Microsoft have good relationships? The same goes to almost all third party companies and Nintendo this days. The fact that so many people takes the "Microsoft rep" as a fact without any evidences, still baffles me.

Honestly this. I'm in 6 Yea Forums Smash Discords and all we ever talk about is how much we love Steve, Sora, Sans, Doomguy etc.

>Persona 5's Joker is emblematic of Smash Bros Ultimate's DLC approach
You don't have anything concrete to connect the two statements. They don't tell you what about him is reflected in the other 4, it could easily just mean "5 guests characters". And the other statement doesn't guarantee that every DLC character will be targeted at new demographics.

This is basically Astrology.

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The statement contradicts itself though, Joker is in

b-but all my sweaty neckbeard friends say they want Banjo and Senran Kagura s-so that must mean Sakurai is listening because we speak for all gaymers!

>Astolfo
I'd like to see him in just to see how absolutely nuclear the entire internet would be.

Something definitely isnt right in that case. I think Nintendo really DOES have a hate boner for Banjo

>Refusteves: Banjo's 2018-2019 merch with his classic design doesn't matter, it's not a game
>Also Refusteves: Simon and Richter are relevant because of a Castlevania Netflix show that they aren't in, so what if they aren't getting new games?

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Save your breath, why would it be possible? Because that is what Smash has been doing, making characters possible not caring about boundaries.

The absolute cope, the bear isn't making it as dlc. Joker ruined his chances

Would it kill them to think these shitposts out a little more thoroughly?

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>OMG DUDE LE MINECRAFT GUY IN SMASH XD

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It's called speculation, that's the whole point of the "discussion". Even the people claiming to know don't really know, but we're making bets basically. It's just lighthearted fun at the end of the day, it's really not meant to be taken seriously.

>All third parties have the same good relationship with Nintendo.

Nooooooot exactly. If a western third-party is getting into Smash, there's a good chance it'll be a franchise like Minecraft that is not only the best selling game of all time at this point, but is very popular in Japan as well and still selling like crazy.

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So you're not gonna tell us what it means?

Gee, I wonder why. You’d almost start believing Yea Forums doesnt represent humanity as a average

Simon and Richter were ultimates retro characters.
>Melee
Ice climbers
>Brawl
Pit
>Smash 4
Duck hunt

based smoothbrain

The opposite is true, what have you been smoking?

>Simon and Richter were ultimates retro characters.

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>you have to be relevant
>unless if you're REALLY old and can be called retro

Pretty sure Banjo is older now than Ice Climbers were in Melee.

>So what if they aren't getting new games
>Minecraft has literally been in the top selling list on the Eshop in Japan and US ever since it's been released and hasn't left.
>"i-if Minecraft is so good why isn't there a Minecraft 2 heh"

Goddamn Banjoids use your fucking noggins next time.

And you want to compare Banjo to Castlevania again?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Castlevania_media#Video_games

Because that's REALLY not helping your case Banjoids.

Don’t bother you’re not going to get serious replies anyway

Doesn't apply for dlc. Look at smash 4s. Cope he's not in

Give up, at this point it’s just too obvious

This is the latest DLC poll, that one up there was before Smash Ultimate was even announced. Sora is #1 (but he's never gonna happen anyway so just forget about him), Banjo #2, and Steve is #4. This also had somewhere around 22,000 votes and, even after everyone wanted Steve, Banjo still outranks him. Now, I wouldn't mind Steve or Banjo, but it's still clear he's one of the most popular choices, which, even then, might mean something.

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Yes, it's obvious that Banjoids are bird-brained bearniggers. I've known that for a while now though.

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>The opposite is true
If that were the case Geno and isaac would've been in the game. As they had as much of a chance as banjo did.

No Castlevania game has beaten Banjo-Kazooie for performance on a Nintendo console. You just use lifetime sales because it's the only metric that supports you.

No Castlevania release has managed 3 1/2 million sales and top 10 best sellers on a Nintendo system.

Actually, THIS is the most recent poll
>inb4 't-too little votes!'

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>Cloud

(You)

>Jill and not Leon having RE 2 and 4 on Gamecube and also Wii, including Wii spin offs

Why Leon would be cucked again for Smash like he was in Marvel vs Capcom?

Fatlus has literally never made a good game.

SRO

This one is about likelihood if the nondescript "insert sword and shield Pokemon here" didn't give that away.

They had, but one’s a spirit and the otter an assist trophy

>Japanese poll hosted on a western twitter
>Also is the most EXPECTED and not the most requested
Just die Stevefag!!!! Banjo is getting in

>No Castlevania release has managed 3 1/2 million sales and top 10 best sellers on a Nintendo system.
>I-It has to sell well on a Nintendo system to get in Smash.

>Castlevania included on the NES classic and the SNES classic
>T-those don't count!

It's really funny how Banjoids will jump from saying "sales dont matter!" to "well no one entry from this series outsold banjo on n64!". Fucking pathetic banjoids.

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This one is edited, you know that right don’t you?

>Kingdom hearts
>Dissideas
>Multiple cameos
>One of the most recognizable and popular video game characters of all time
Cope

(You)

Not gonna lie you had me until Astolfo

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Yes, that is also the latest poll, because the poll was both in America and Japan. I never said Steve wasn't also popular, but Banjo getting #2 in America and #6th in Japan isn't bad at all.

I just think it's weird that /pol/ keeps pushing Isaac really hard.
resetera hate him and call golden sun a "nazi" game, maybe there's something to that.

21 years later and this board is shitting en large on Banjo.

HOW THE FUCK IS HE IRRELEVANT?!

Literally the only reason Cloud got in was because of how iconic & popular he is, Nintendo wanted to add Terra from Final Fantasy VI instead

Must be the color gold, it represents trannies.

Sales only matter if you have proof those sales are affecting Smash inclusions
>Out of the all Nintendo consoles top 10 best sellers only 2 aren't included in Smash in some capacity, Banjo-Kazooie and Golf for NES
Meanwhile
>When you look at the all time best selling game list, only ONE non-Nintendo game on the list has a fighter in Smash, Sonic All-Stars Racing at #36
>Tetris is also represented in Smash but with public domain music that didn't cost them anything
>Several of the Nintendo games on the list also don't have a fighter in Smash, instead only getting an AT and/or Stage

One metric has results behind it and the other doesn't, simple as that.

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My uncle works for nintendo and he said we're getting frogger for the next character.

>posting the "most expected" rather than most wanted poll
dishonest

>they expect Byleth and a Sword/Shield rep
>but they're also putting all of their eggs in Sora's basket
Conflicting

Don’t use a brain on this board

Hmm, number one, you say?

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LOOK HE IS POPULAR BECAUSE SOME NECKBEARDS SAID SO
leave your smash autism jerkoff
literally no one gives 2 shits about him
>unoffical
>fighters I don't like were cut becuaze wahh
why are banjokes so obsessed with these polls
is it because rool got in and if they think they make 100 fan polls were he is first he will be in
howcome litteraly no one else ever posts these polls but banjokes litteraly no one else cares
honestly even if the "votes" aren't fake is it because literally no one else cares?
seems that way

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So his adopted son is number one eh? perfect, we kill both Steve and Erdrick this night.

Yep, number one I say

You know whats weird? No one is mentioning Goku anymore, he was probably past months’ flavor. Like Steve is now

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Honestly I'd be fine if Banjo or Steve got in.
If Banjo gets in, Minecraft probably will still get repped in Smash one way or another, as a stage or stage builder shit possibly
If Steve gets in, we'll still get Rare Replay on Switch most likely or, if there ever is a N64 Classic, Banjo games on that

cope

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Banjo's best shot was the base game. Isaac scored higher than Banjo. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Th4pdsrzs-6X303PPpw5m-b4JHJ0_cGRKU15KYlTe1E/edit#gid=729442469
And it was still not enough to make hime playable despite being in the same situation than Banjo (from a franchise that has been dormant for ten years), without the burden of being owned by another company.
And with the only two DLC characters we actually know, it's clear tha Sakurai won't use the ballot as a reference anymore. Look at Piranha Plant, why add it when it would have been less or the same effort to include Waluigi, Paper Mario, Toad or Geno?
And why did they add Joker, since Persona or SMT didn't score high in the ballot?
The reply is here: They want characters that were not often suggested for Smash. Meaning a Persona character and, if the rumors REALLY end up true, a Dragon Quest character. In the case of Persona, it's mostly a Sony franchise, so you can try fishing a bit of its fanbase, especially when their latest installement is the most succesful of the whole series. And in Dragon Quest's case, it sold more and has a large playerbase in Japan. It's highly likely that not everyone who play DQ bought Smash Bros.
In the case of Banjo, well, you only see him ever brought up for Smash Bros., just like Isaac and Geno. Contrary to Persona and DQ (and, in the case of other third-parties added in 4, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy and Bayonetta), even if they were not added in Smash, there'd still be fans buying the new games, sharing their interest on the internet or IRL, and well, simply talk and enjoy about the new games. However, Microsoft is definitely not interested in trying to revive the franchise a second time after the newer opus only sold half a million, and the fans don't really expect anything anymore except a few figures here and there. It's not a 0% chance but it's definitely low.

I smell 13 year old Tweeters from miles away you know, why ARE you so obsessed?

Simon was literally the last of the NES icons

Richter isn't as much a retro pick as he is a fucking miracle. Richter has no reason to exist in smash, yet here he is.

Banjofags are more insufferable than genoshits used to be holy fuck, I'm starting to think they're the same people.

>votes were botted
>isacc had 10k more
>BUT BANJOKE IS FIRST BECAUSE MUH Rules
why do you keep posting this litteraly shows banjokes are cry babies that have to always be in first
honestly this just makes you looks bad

Have sex (you)

says the fag that won't shutup about banjoke and keeps posting these polls/making these threads
>get's called out
>NO U
your the obessed one maybe people are tired of seeing this dumb pic and hearing about muh polls

ME GOOD YOU BAD shitpost wars were a mistake

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Ah yes, post the small version of the pic so no one can read the fine print. Classic Banjoid. Let's take a closer look shall we?

>The most heavily botted character by far was Banjo, with almost half of all botted votes being submitted in his favor

And we're supposed to trust these fan polls, the main thing Banjoids have going for them?

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I didn't even comment on Steve, just that their expectations were both more and less realistic than ours at the same time.

Thread should end right here

Man, it sure is getting autism in here

>Rare rep and ad for Switch port

Banjokes are RATTLED

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING, arschlöcher! Just giving your daily reminder we're another day closer to Richtofen (yes, THE Richtofen from the incredibly popular FPS series Call of Duty) getting confirmed in the biggest gaming extravaganza that is Nintendo's Super Smash Bros Ultimate! Make sure you grab your Ray Guns and guzzle down your Juggernog for the upcoming Fighter Pass when our hero Richtofen and the Primis crew make their mark on destiny!

>B-but the leaks said Doomguy would be the FPS rep

Oh no no, Anonmyous. You really think that the talented Masahiro Sakurai would deny himself the opportunity to work with a cultural landmark series like Call of Duty? Unlike Doom, CoD is beloved all across the world, it is the single most popular FPS of all time as well as most influential. No one outside of the US cares about boomer shooters.

>b-but Banjo and Scorpion would be better Western reps, e-everyone knows who they are

I barely know who these people are, unlike Richtofen (or any CoD character desu) which has people from toddlers to old men like me quickly recognizing it! The franchise is a staple of the American entertainment history! Now I don't know about vergebens or whoever this MasterOfHyrule is but I can guarantee to you that you just can't trust everything you read on the internet! As far as I know it could be a scheme by Dr. Monty or the Shadowman to get you all stuck in a loop.

See you fellow CoDchads this E3
Reach for Juggernog tonight!

I think you’re confused with someone else but I suppose I was right wasn’t I?

Fuck off I’ve wanted paper mario and Skull Kid since brawl

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Only poll that is needed is Nintendo's official list of best N64 games

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>isacc most legit
>has 10k more
>still in second because muh rules
wow banjokes outting themselves as crybabies

b-but Banjo is the last of the N64 ICONS!!!
BANJO IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY CLASSIC FRANCHISE, JUST ADMIT IT.

IT'S
HIS
TURN

I'M
WITH
BEAR

GUH-HUH!

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You’re not doing yourself a favor by failing to read the remainder of the text you know, are you by any chance a republican?

Agreed, if your character's only hope of relevance is Smash Bros there is something wrong going on with its franchise