>For many months now Japanese, Chinese, and South Korean developers have had to tiptoe around an amorphous set of rules opaquely employed by Valve regarding what sort of games are allowed on the Steam storefront. Valve has been using the term “child exploitation” to axe anime style games from mostly smallish Asian studios whenever they feature sexy or attractive female characters in romantic settings that some of Valve’s staff consider to be inappropriate. This is despite the fact that some of these games are the all-ages version and don’t contain any sex or flagrant nudity. Well, Valve completely forewent that curation standard for Dontnod Entertainment’s Life Is Strange 2: Episode 3, which featured an underage sex scene, which featured nudity.
>The sequence doesn’t contain explicit nudity such as genitalia, but we do get to see some of Sean’s butt as he’s getting into the water, Cassidy’s butt and her breasts, as well as both Sean and Cassidy topless during the sex scene.
>
However, the real story here is that the depiction of underage sex also went unchecked by both Sony and Valve, two platform holders who have been aggressively enforcing censorship and bans on games that they either deem as containing too much “sexual content” or for containing “child exploitation”.
Steam Must be Forced to Live by It's own Rules
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This isn't "too much" of a sexual content and it's sure as shit isn't "child exploitation".
It also went unchecked because almost no one played this shitty mediocre sequel no one really cares about.
>americans
you fatties are beyond help
>oh no two 16 year olds are fucking eachother
let's just pretend this doesn't happen all the time, in fact it usually happens younger than that
Wait, doesn't that mean the game is illegal in some places?
guess they endorse gore too with all those violent games
but oh think of the children
I like that you whine about Americans every time but you aren't obsessed enough to know that all American normalfags talk about is a show where the main characters get stronger for every dick they take
Yeah but what's the visual disparity between the anime girls and the 16 year olds? Are we talking 10 year olds vs. 16? 16 is technically adolescent porn and the distinction is less biological and more legal insofar as the definition of "child". There's certainly a proclivity for the hentai artist to go over the top. It's also why pedophilia isn't the sole term, there's hebephilia, ephebophilia (which actually goes into early adulthood).
There's also legal precedence for using underage models in artistic pursuits in the US domain, if I recall correctly. So meeting the vague definition of art, and especially as applied by those precedents might be more difficult for the VNs or whatever.
>Americans..........
Who gives a fuck? Go outside.
>16
>underage
'murricans
Proud pedo!
it this game was a japanese game it woudlve been instantly banned lol
age of consent bs doent any make sense either. it just means any cp game on steam is ok if a country accepts it.
steam just should be equally and fair here. all games like this is allowed or banned.
Gamers, it's time.
>anipedos are being retarded again
this game has a real cp content
How is it cp if both of them are teenagers
16 is the age of consent in my country, americans are just overgrown children.
Yea Forums is surprisingly pro-authoritarian.
16 is the age of consent in many states.
Stay obsessed, Mohammed.
hahahaha
you amerimutt sjws are losing your shit
Yea Forums is whatever gets the most replies at that time.
we're pro-fairness
Nudity and sex is the biggest sin in america.
This is not a "battle" any of us can win by sheer virtue that none of us actually give 3 shits about any of this so videos like this just end up sounding like we're mad about anime or something.
16 is age of consent in almost half the states.
lmao you'll still go to jail for cp whether they're 10 or 16 user.
Yea Forums is pro-(You)s and whatever it takes to get them.
This is blatant SJW hypocrisy. They sperg out over the tiniest transgression when it's something they don't like, but are deathly silent on shit like this because it's a series they love. Vote Trump in 2020 to put an end to SJW bullshit.
Get Woke Get Rope
You can't argue logic with pedophile weebs.
Except the polfags
Except you won't because they're made of polygons. This isn't Canada.
that's cool but don't act like 16 makes porn legal. if that was true there would be 16 year old porn everywhere.
Causing a stink about this won’t make valve go back on censoring anime games, will only make them possibly censor LiS.
Pointing out hypocrisy doesn’t work against SJWs. You can’t really fight them. Not sure how you defeat the willingful ignorant when they are the majority.
Pretty sure this sort of thing is illegal in Europe and Canada.
It's stupid anyway, that girl would be fucking a guy five years older if it was real life.
Its obvious that Valve has totally turned into an awful SJW company. Very western centric and massively biased towards western "progressive" values.
Although this is just pedo shit tho.The devs OFFICIALLY say they are underage.
SJWs cant be objective to any fantasy they came up with.
Can't have sex in movies, that's indecent and a child might be watching
>meanwhile, in the background a serial murderer is tearing a woman's spine out in full graphical detail and gouging another person's eyes out with it
>will only make them possibly censor LiS
winning and losing in this are stupid concepts. its about annoying them with their same arguments because its nonsense. same with that gunn faggot.
16 year olds have sex yes. But someone over 18 can not view sex between 16 year olds. So this is CP and this game should be banned
>lowqualitybait.jpg
Yes it is.
16 year olds have sex tho, the game is just portraying reality
delete this
A lot of anime tiddies are also teenagers. Older actually, 17 as is the standard for 2nd year of highshcool in japan.
I finished high school at 17
Are gooks really that dumb?
From what I understand, people upset that they ban anime tiddy shit and just let this stuff through without a thought? Why is this directed towards steam though, shouldnt sony be the ones taking the heat?
GNOMED
To tell you the truth, this ain't illegal in the US. Loli already won it's supreme court battle so I'm sure this is covered. It's just that the nip stuff isn't illegal either, they just want it banned because they're racist and find it icky.
>how dare they censor anime games
>how dare they not censor western games
You're not allowed to vote until 18, that's a pretty big barrier to the state considering you an adult
because snoy is a lost cause, and they won't allow eroge anyway
the first point is bad.
that law only works for real actual CP
2d porn with shota and lolicon or SFM loli porn doesnt get you arrested in the U.S.A.
Since first point is invalid,the second one goes out too.
I dont give a shit about France to talk about the third point
Brothers, as an emissary from the true Chan, let us bury the hatchet and and unite our legions with based one angry gamer, and mass report this degenerate filth. If we are not allowed to have our loli tits, normies shall not have this pedo sim.
those loli/shota porn arent sold officially
you pirate all of them, and online cgs dont define characters age
The fire is spreading, the war is fucking on!
This doesn't fall under the current law of child pornography and someone who at the very least acts like they know the law is just being disingenuous and twisting its law term in his own favour.
I could do the same nonsense and say they are teenagers, not children.
Actually, in the US this game doesn't violate anything. Can't speak for frogs, but considering how much nudity I've seen in French comics I'd probably say that's a load.
What were they thinking?
They are still underage, no?
>missing the point
it's about the hypocrisy
Why are incels so upset that two 16 year olds are having sex? Oh right, because they can't get any themselves.
just don't specify age in your fictional story
How does that change anything?
Buying or pirating,you are still in possession of the content and if the content features illegal features (such as real life CP images) in both situations you get arrested for possession of CP.
Since the law only applies to real life CP, 2d shota/loli porn is unaffected regards federal laws (California doesn't represent the entire other 50 states)
I wish Arch posted this shit on second channel
where is my Vraks and krieg sacrifice
meh, 2/10
But trying to get a game banned in the name of anti censorship isn't?
its illegal even in japan tho. any japanese loli stuff doesnt officially say its underage. at most they just imply it. funny if it isnt cp in the us
No, trying to make sure everything is treated evenly is not hypocrisy. The fuck are you smoking?
>Loli already won it's supreme court battle
No it hasn't. They have consistently denied appeals for loli cases and loli has been successfully prosecuted multiple times under obscenity law
Name the supreme court "loli case" I'm sure you can.
Your ISP would be getting everyone on this site arrested, I doubt everyone here knows how to mask their IP Address
It's not a porn if you are ugly.
Sounds like a foolproof way of getting lots of fantasy games with little kids that actually are a thousand years old
I really have trouble understanding the problem people have with things like this or anime, I mean its just a damn game, or in this case more like a movie, dunno I've never played it. I wonder why it is that normalfags/moralfags have trouble separating reality from fiction, and if anything they seem to care more about policing the latter for some reason.
>Americans
Oh no! Butts! Quick replace this with gore so it can be suitable for the children!
It probably slipped under the radar because nobody plays this trash
endorse sex
i like my loli porn as much as the next guy but there's probably nothing graphic in that shit game
and
its only a few individuals banning the wrong side of history games on steam, they sure as fuck are not going to ban this one
theres no written rules on purpose you troglodyte
loli is only illegal in California
>Cassidy's age is left ambiguous. She appears around Sean's age, yet refers to herself as an old gal and acts like she's been doing this for a while.
not pedophilia
The problem is double standard
Laws and what it actually is are two different things. I'd say it's child pornography, but the poster on Steam is twisting it.
Unless Steam does something, the game isn't going anywhere, Worst case it'll be banned from some countries.
because even if YOU were 16, its STILL cp to your underaged ass!
nothing will save you unless you were like 10 or some shit.
Friendly reminder that Sony cut this while allowing that.
Cool, glad you agree 1000 year old lolis are a great thing and shouldn't be censored.
Is that underage gay sex or straight one?
No, if anything California has looser laws regarding obscenity than most of the nation does, but it doesn't matter because loli is federally illegal under the PROTECT act
well, to begin with, none of japanese media officially say its underage because cp is illegal in japan. my take is the us has just followed the norm of japan at this point. this game would be illegal in japan.
i thought you knew it. i was thinking you were talking about very risky underground stuff
So if those requirements are met, it's fine?
nothing should be censored
What part of it is gymnastics? If anything it's regular theater, and it ain't us that started this play.
>doesn't actually show them having sex
>she isn't a minor
its not illegal at all
>Life is strange 2 is CP
Kek no it isnt, if Blue Lagoon isnt banned then it wont be either.
I have no intention of reporting Life is Strange 2 myself, but my side lost the day Sony banned Omega Labyrinth Z last year. Since then, at least 19 other Japanese games have been censored and Senran Kagura has effectively been put on ice. Senran fans have also been branded as pedos by liberals on social media the moment they heard about Intimacy Mode (). There's no chance of a comeback for us, so I can't really blame others for lashing out now. It'll be interesting to see if Valve and Sony respond and how they phrase their hypocrisy, at least.
It's better to just accelerate this shit.
But Sean is. If that scene used anime artstyle, and even if it's not shown, but implied, it would be removed. Also,
>she isn't a minor
her age is never stated. whatever the case, a minor is involved.
>exploiting digital children
Woah!
>us
what did he mean by this
So is this episode 3 on the Sony platform?
>lmao just take it bros
>if you try to make others follow the same rules you're a bigot tho
unironically a smooth-brain take
No it isn’t, lol
anime is censored cause its embarrassing that grown men masturbate to it
So is this sex scene really graphic? Does it exist to titillate? If not, then it doesn't really count as pornographic.
The movies Titanic, Romeo and Juliet, and many more have underage sex scenes, but they're not considered child porn. Why wouldn't a video game be able to do the same as them?
Fans of Japanese games. Who else?
>vote trump 2016
>
>vote trump 2020
>but for real this time!
You pissbabies are so transparent. Search "Life is Strange Episode 3" on Twitter and see what most people are saying. Good luck getting your nympho kiddy porn games back over one tastefully done sex scene where the only nudity is of an of-age character
I'd rather just do the first part
Embarassingly f*cking epic'
>Why wouldn't a video game be able to do the same as them?
Ask Sony.
>The sequence doesn’t contain explicit nudity such as genitalia
Retards
see for yourself. its like movie sex
>completly missing the point
NA might be fat, but europeans sure are retarded
Yeah, internet warriors are only good for taking the easy way.
>tastefully done sex scene
lmao you act like you're convincing someone smooth-brain-kun. there ain't shit you can do to stop it.
Wait, of age? Wouldn't that mean one of the characters in the game is a pedophile?
hello arch. how's the tase of sargin's cock today
I just hear crying
Why the Mickey Mouse hands
See
its not pedophilia when women go after minors dumbass.
same goes for anime games that got banned then. its just for fun. doesnt even have a sex scene. i dont play moeshit but gotta say valve is totally biased
There's no point here. You're just upset at two 16 year olds fucking for no apparent reason. Teenagers fuck like rabbits, this isn't anything new.
So what you're saying is that it would be really funny to report it, and deprive some retard of a mid game fap session?
What's stopping people from just reporting this to Sony?
Lmao getting riled up at the idea of a character being pedo is laughable on a site where everyone calls themselves proud pedos
Save ur virtue signaling fuckboi
>doesn’t contain explicit nudity such as genitalia
Same goes for the games Sony censored.
>tfw no tatted up drifter qt that lovingly takes my virginity
>DYKED
I just wanna understand when it became an SJW selling point.
>yfw
Cant wait for the SS Vampire masquerade DnD with sargoy and Arch Lolinist. I will love the headlines.
>arguing for censorships to own da libs
It's not even the same, chud. Do you ignore context to be purposefully stupid, or did you skip that lesson in school? Try another argument
>The first conviction of a person found to have violated the sections of the act relating to virtual child pornography was Dwight Whorley of Virginia, who used computers at the Virginia Employment Commission to download "Japanese anime style cartoons of children engaged in explicit sexual conduct with adults"[15] alleged to depict "children engaged in explicit sexual conduct with adults." He was charged with 19 counts of "knowingly receiving" child pornography for printing out two cartoons and viewing others.[16] His conviction was upheld in a 2-1 panel decision of the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in December 2008.[15] This decision was consistent with the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition in which the Supreme Court held that virtual child pornography was protected free speech, provided that the virtual depictions are not obscene. Obscenity, including obscene depictions of children, either virtual or real, is unprotected speech.
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Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition is the case you posted btw
Whatever you say, homo.
Have sex
Yeah, this is pretty tame.
Amazing. The same niggers in this thread is usually the ones screaming that fucking 14 years old isn't pedophilia is now flip flopping yet again that two 16 years old is cp. Do you faggots ever had a single opinion that wasn't based on reactionary contrarianism due some other faggots presumed opinion?
Nobodys playing this for the sex oh my god
How do you think acting stupid makes your argument better
>oneangryincel and his gang of outrage artists faking outrage because they think they are being clever
>in which the Supreme Court held that virtual child pornography was protected free speech, provided that the virtual depictions are not obscene.
Now please, define obscene.
So Yea Forums is just mad it's not gay sex, I'm guessing?
You people have a lot of trouble accepting that other people just aren't as gay as you.
you are talking about specific peoples subjective views. thats just the valves biased view. whats the "good" context and who can judge it like "this is evil"
Fuck off, concern troll.
Funny how his gang of virgins are the only ones even mentioning this on Twitter either, while the rest of world is just praising a good game
>its ok if they imply it
>its ok if its more realistic
>its ok if its for the story
>its ok since theyre consenting
>a grown woman with an underage boy is art
When will it stop?
Where do you think you are? Besides Yea Forums isnt just one guy, retard, of course there will be people with different opinions.
this is censored in ps4 version (because it looks like tits) while life is strange has complete sex scene in playstation, westerners have a bias against japanese games and we all know it
I don't get it was there actual on-screen sex shown or are people overreacting to nothing?
16 is not underage you sheltered fucking retard.
Fuck off Arch, nobody like you.
It's also kindof ok in France.
Some dude said he identified as the loli in some loli porn, he got away with it.
CP is a BIG no no, of course though
It works so well too. Truly, autistic neets shut in their dank basements ODing on testosterone pills sold to them by conmen is the easiest group to manipulate.
When it actually gets bad, slipperyslopefag.
Anime pedo trash is there to help incels who want to fuck kids whack off.
This game has a short, tasteful sex scene for character development purposes only.
How on earth did you need that spelled out
Every game that Sony censored was already approved by the Japanese rating board CERO. They don't allow retail releases to contain any nudity or explicit sex acts.
>Amazing. The same niggers in this thread is usually the ones screaming that two fucking 16 years old isn't pedophilia is now flip flopping yet again that 14 years old is cp. Do you faggots ever had a single opinion that wasn't based on reactionary contrarianism due some other faggots presumed opinion?
B-but #bonerculture #waronboners!
Then why are nip games with characters 17+ not allowed you retard?
It is part of the art, though, so eat my shit
Did you mean to reply to someone else?
nobody cares. we are just illustrating the racism of steam, since they only ban anime games
The games censored by Sony were cringe anine games.
There's a difference between
>Making a story game with a sex scene
over
>Game a sex game with a story
Persona 3-5 has you fucking kids your age and even adults and no one bat a fucking eye.
Just yet another proof of SJW hypocrisy, showing a sex scene between a minor and an adult but when its american made its fine.
They should just admit they are fucking racists, but of course they will never be honest about their double standards, fuck these people..
underage nudity is cp
Definitely not
Because they look like actual, unironic children. Go ahead and point out any game where the girls/boys look their age
>respectfully
This poster is talking completely out of his ass, but if you're going to try to sound intellectual at least learn the language you're using.
OK, so if 16 isn't underage then why is school setting anime games getting boned off Steam?
Even it has nothing more than ecchi shit and no sex it's still bad.
But if this shit has it it's ok? I don't understand someone please help me understand i am sooo lost someone help me please dammit....
Louder for the incels in the back
>The average person, applying local community standards, looking at the work in its entirety, must find that it appeals to the prurient interest.
>The work must describe or depict, in an obviously offensive way, sexual conduct, or excretory functions.
>The work as a whole must lack "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific values".
This is the legal test for obscenity in the United Sates. Loli could be if they really wanted it to be.
Oh right because this has actually nothing to do with Life if Strange 2 and everything to do with lolis. Ok just making that clear.
waaahhh I want my 1000 year old fantasy children to jack off too, why is this game allowed and thats not.
Because real women and their white knights are offended by the perfection that is 2D.
Yea Forums is communist and capitalist when it benefits us
How much of a retard are you to not realise that people are sperging because anime games were removed with the excuse of "underage lmao" while a western game is accepeted because underage sexual activities is progressive? This outrage is a response, not the the starting point.
gaben should have never allowed anime weebs to start selling those shitty vn "games" on his platform
no argument. no scientific view. full of prejudices, easily triggered. and you easily show your racist colors to asians.
go back to ghazi, white sjw landwhale. have sex.
>What has boners?
>Penis
>who has penis?
>biological xy chromosome males
>war against biological males for the sake of it
If I can't have my anime tiddies, then nobody can have anything they like either
>Steam's been banning certain hardcore porn games which are usually Japanese and also lolishit
>For some reason not banning this game with a tame sex scene means Steam is racist
why
Yes it is racist, but have you actually met the types that advocate the hypocrisy?
If they had self-awareness, it would have been evident some time ago.
And hey it is because Lolita is still taught in high schools
Which contained no nudity or explicit content.
ITT: closet pedos rage against pedophilia after fapping to constant shota/loli threads on other boards.
>when its american made
I'm getting angry about something I have no idea about!
Why should it matter? Stupid games like Senran Kagura don't have sex scenes but are hated and banned, just because it's "not artistic"? Why is erotic BAD but sex scene with minors in a narrative GOOD?
Do you people even have an objective argument against it or are you against erotiscism now too?
>age of consent is 15 in my country
>most people wait to get really sexually active until their late teens anyway
This fucking country man I'm telling you
>greentext
nice generalized statements without any proof you have there
Brilliant buzzword spew, I'll take this as a victory then
>>The work must describe or depict, in an obviously offensive way, sexual conduct, or excretory functions.
This is literally the only one that's not an opinion, and with the nips censoring laws, is also one steam-tier eroges literally can't break.
Explain, then.
>Forced to Live by It's own Rules
>by It's own Rules
>by it is own rules
Retard zoomers, christ
Disgusts me that there are people on Yea Forums who are actually pro censorship. Why can't these manbabies just avoid things they don't like?
Weren't LiS2 SJW to the fucking bone?
I emember that it even had a fucking bearded hipser looking author self-insert.
>No explicit content
Sure it didn't
>Why is erotic BAD but sex scene with minors in a narrative GOOD?
only when its done by some old french dudes obviously
sjws are so racist they don't even know they are racist
Oh man the irony in your post is too much, must have been intentional
europe is american you zoomer incel
>getwokeget.jpg
>vote for this Goldmansachs puppet in the next fake election.
That's the most beep boop thing an NPC can do.
>all anime girls are lolis
>pic related is a loli
>anime is loli
>i only think about lolis
>a loli is best when its realistic
Stop before you get arrested, lads.
the king is dead,
long live the king!
You're a racist liar, those 17yos girls in shit kusoge like Senran Kagura don't look like actual unironic children.
This is what SJWs always say but you're nothing but racists, the lolis look like little girls, all the rest are full on huge boobs and hips, there's no children in there you hypocrite. In THIS western game there are actual minors with a realistic non-anime art style and you seem so keen in defending it.
Lolita has "artistic value"
[CLOCKWORK] I Can't Believe My Little Sister is a Sexy Demon Succubus! would probably not pass that test
One is a game with a sex scene and the others are sex scenes with a small amount of game.
Its like comparing an HBO show with tits in it to porn. Why can I watch Mindhunter and discuss it with other people but not Massive Asian Asses 5?
Why are you pro-censorship, manbaby?
>no explicit nudity
>breasts and butts of 16 year olds
>not explicit
Is this really how far society has fallen? That now only actual penis and vagina nudity is considered explicit?
If a character is designed to look sexy and they look like a child, their stated age is irrelevant. It's still child porn. That's why anime fapbait is unacceptable. End of discussion
Because it's funny to kick over a nerds sand castle and take his toys away.
It is. That's why this is an excellent way to kill this sjw studio and bring back rationality in gaming
But that's exactly what Steam has been doing and you retards are upset a game with a tame sex scene isn't banned. Why?
...................
Not illegal to state an age in 2D stuff in Japan. Most publications avoid it however because it's harder to sell when it's outright stated to be underage as many places wont carry/publish it. Comic LO still states ages occasionally from what I remember but they have their situation sorted, it's different for games however and douin artists that can't self-publish.
Its called hypocrisy and they will never admit it, making up some excuse on the spot and in a few months contradicting themselves again.
Oh, im sorry
>when its western made
better for you faggot?
Just get out of your hourly shota thread?
Yes, that was my point
Whoever first coined the term "fight fire with fire" really needed to be reminded that doing so causes a bigger fire.
They don't have sex scenes with small amount of game, they don't have sex scenes at all and are still banned.
Also, are leftists against erotiscism and porn now too, I grew up with you defending that shit against the prude right.
I think this bot is broken, lads. It's just spewing buzzwords hoping something will stick
This is a delicious thread
If any of the games Sony censored did, CERO would've thrown a hissy fit long before Sony interfered. Besides, aren't few of them currently available uncensored on the Switch?
Sony's censorship has only applied to anime styled games and there's literally 0 reason to believe they'd enforce it on non anime games. If you DID believe that, you're a fucking drooling braindead retard.
none of the games steam has banned has any sex scenes, brainlet
>Senran Kagura don't have sex scenes but are hated and banned
SK isn't ban and I'd say most of the hate come from the gameplay being bad.
>im a baby amd feel insecure
ok retard.
I should NOT have to get a Shitch to play games the way they were meant to be played
Your "anime pedo trash" include a bunch of woman in prime peak form that fuck irl. 17+ is considered pedo trash for you because you're retarded, no pedo wacks to that.
Good. Burn it all down.
I unironically agree.
I LOVE BEING A PEDOPHILE
>Life is strange
>Good game
>game
>good even in the slightest
my 8 year old cousin could right more convincing dialog
Go on, post a cherrypicked image showing one of the adults so you can pretend they all look like that
(((artistic value))) to molester producers and directors who wanted to fuck REAL girls. No real 16 year old is abused in some animoo, especially when no sex is actually happen, just some paltry upskirts.
We also might as well ban Big, Real Genius or Vice Versa while we are at it.
>pic related are lolis
This
Just let your own house be burned down bro
Anti-anime fags once again proving just how brain dead they are.
highschool is 3 years in japan
semantics. When your piece of media has titilation and eroticism as its primary reason for existence rather than narrative or gameplay. There is that better for you? Can you understand now? Theres a load of weeb shit still on Steam with lolis in it just that those games are not overtly obvious fapbait like most of the shit that got removed. LiS is not fapbait, its a load of garbage but its not that.
Not really, firemen do fight fire with fire...
Some men just want to watch the world burn, user
>obscenity law
That, that right there is the problem. How the hell is such a law acceptable?
Obscene things exist, they should be regulated as such that those who don't want to look it it won't. When we're talking about drawings here, digital data, pixels, FUCKING FICTION, punishing someone over creatin something that someone else might consider obscene even if they're never exposing it to anybody that doesn't want to see it... how the hell is that not a violation of freedom of expression?
Obscenity law is just a workaround to arrest someone over the "victimless crime" and to censor, something people have fought and died to abolish
Just wait for PS5, they are ramping up the censorship on that. Already announced.
Doesn't matter. ((Artistic value)) is literally just normalfag opinions and there's no fucking way you're going to convince normalfags that a VN like Euphoria isn't obscene.
It wont work anyway, motherfuckers are literal borderline sociopaths and will keep up their double-standard bullshit even when you point in their face.
Why do you think a common strategy for these fucks is to double-down when shit aint working? They dont work on logic, they are all batshit insane.
>REEEE THEY TOOK OUR LOLI GAME
>LETS REPORT ANYTHING SHOTA LIKE THAT MY SUMMER EXPERIENCE
>HAHA WE DID IT BROS WE GOT SHOTA BANNED TOO IN THE NAME OF ANTI CENSORSHIP
At one point one would assume that they learn from their mistakes, but that would require self awareness and double digit IQ
why does this cunt roll his R's trying to sound like some kind of British lord?
you do this while posting goro, ironic aint it?
I don't get why japs have to up the ages of some characters by 1-2 years either desu.
I don't even know what counts as loli anymore. One time I masturbated to some doujin with some busty chick and it had loli tags in it.
Then you have actual pornstars that have the sticc body-type of a 14 year old taking dicks that are bigger than their own forearms
Why are people so retarded?
>drank a little last night
>see this and wish i had more
tfw no island cocktail gf
burning everything down is the only way, user
Or use something less volatile to put it out.
Or atleast get some professional help and not rely on the abilities of 1000000 anonymous underaged.
And what is the problem with something being fapbait, why do you want to ban it? Why are you people pro banning jap games at all just because they're "fapbait"? LiS2 shouldn't be banned but so is the case with lots of asian shit.
And btw, most sex scenes in movies and everymedia is also there for titilation, don't kid yourselves.
There's a reason why hot lesbians having explicit sex is so common in movie festivals but two guys isn't. It's because titilation and hypocrisy.
Wait, if you "win" and get them to censor this, doesn't that just set a precedence that'll make it easier to censor anything? Is that what you're fighting for?
Read french comics, hell just watch tha ladybug cartoon.
Europeans SJWs have many problems too, of course, but fortunately they are not so obsessed about sex than americans.
Daily reminder America never stopped being puritans.
of course it's 2 dudes
Or you could just not care about jacking it to depictions of little girls and troll people by taking it away from them.
>And what is the problem with something being fapbait, why do you want to ban it? Why are you people pro banning jap games at all just because they're "fapbait"?
becaus I don't like them
For once, it's not about "pwning the libs", grandpa. It's just a matter of fact that Steam is acting with bias, and needs to be held accountable.
Maybe more western game fans would care about censorship, once they realized that even their games are victims of it.
Quit shilling your channel, fag.
Make him seem refined and thus credible as he's pushing for censorship
>so, what did you fight for in your lifetime?
>>I wanted Steam to have Chinese pedophile games on it.
Because they're drones and cannot think at all.
>hardcore japanese porn involving child-like character
>"woah im a pedo weeaboo degenerate retard and this pleases me based steam"
Vs.
>Mild scene
>"woah im a pedo weeaboo degenerate retard and thus bothers me"
That's the gist of it. It's about pedos thinking they have any moral ground or standard and pretend to be retarded to ignore the fact that what they like doesn't compare to what they are bitching about.
Fuck off, manchildren.
Except that's not the point OP was trying to make but for some reason you and many other idiots here think that it is. Nobody is trying to censor this, nobody is trying to "win" anything here. It's pointing out Steam's hypocrisy.
How hard it is for you to get that?
Best case is to have both of course
If you look at Miller V California (which is where all modern obscenity law stems from) you can see why they wanted to do something about it because the case is about some douche who was mass mailing pornographic ads to random people, but I feel like that case really failed to note the difference between reaching out and grabbing other people with your porn like Miller did and what you privately keep for yourself which is what the decision should have been about. Instead it was entirely focused around what was obscene or not.
I'm don't want anything banned, please don't mistake me pointing out stupid shit as me endorsing the removal of obvious sexual titles. The two are not the samething at all.
>only I can determine what's important and what I determine applies to everyone and everything
outrage culture is cancer and so is anyone who doesn't use sage in this thread.
literally kill youreslves
>why didn't you fight against censorship?
>I thought they would just stop at the things I don't care about
... By reporting this as cp, to get it removed, yes. Sounds like you're pushing for censorship to me, even if it's not your end goal
People who are pushing for a ban just want revenge or to watch the world burn, they arent looking for logic.
And you are the double digit IQ if you think giving this a pass will "help" the anti censorship campaign, when in the future you try to use this game as evidence, the censorfags will just make excuses like this one to justify bans and will LAUGH at your attempt of logic, as they work on feelings instead.
So yeah, this are the 2 options, short timed revenge or long time pointless suffering.
Too late to care now, the damage have been done. I want everything to go down and censored if its the last thing I do. You censor my stuff I censor yours too. Equality for the win.
mail is a fucking racket, that's why they didn't want to touch it at all
this
stop fucking complaining and do what the big company is telling you
yeah nah, you're just fighting for censorship under the guise of "sticking it to the man", but keep believing whatever you tell yourself to deal that sweet cognitive dissonance
>"I'm a pedophile and I'm pretending to be fighting for something entirely different when I'm not"
Sure, retard pedos.
>liberals are starting to worry their own smut is next
Now do you understand why censorship is bad?
God I love these posts. Seethe, retard, you brought this on yourself.
Steam has a tag system
It's impossible to have child pornography in a videogame that has no children
Drawings are not children
3D models are not children
Even a really highly detailed fern-filled child model still isn't a child
>anime is conservative smut
Huh?
>Retard says California doesn't represent the rest of the states
>Doesn't realize that California is one of the few states that explicitely makes loli and shota okay when drawn, versus red shitholes that explicitly don't
lol
its illegal or treated as highly illegal-ish stuff if it sells as porn for 18+. comic lo is actually risky stuff. you wouldnt be able to resist if you got arrested for it. japan however just has a bunch of grey zones, and the authorities arent that moral faggy. also the manga industry is too fucking strong influences on society. ishihara, the former far right leaning tokyo governor, made some shit law against cp in manga a decade ago or so. the puritans were so desperate but it was instantly ignored and totally been a dead law.
normal "young" mangas like young magazine for high schoolers/adults have a sex scene too sometimes, and it isnt considered as cp. this one isnt manga. so it could be censored.
I get off to handholding user.
You can't stop me, no one can.
en.wikipedia.org
stay mentally imbalanced, pro-censorship authoritarian
Is it a trend for Americans to think that anything that contains tits or sex is only for sexual titillation and gratification?
Is this entire thread just one huge case of cognitive dissonance?
americans love pedophilia when it is homosexual in nature and involves 3d models or real children
of course they're not going to touch this game
He's wrong, 17 is the age of the third year of HS there, which is also their last year of high school (they begin HS in 10th grade unlike americans who do so in 9th).
>Is this entire thread just one huge case of cognitive dissonance?
yes and it's affecting both sides rather hard
Sony says otherwise, user
Visual representation of a kid used in a porn game so degenerate pedos can jack off to it. Very hmm.
>all these RetardEra faggots completely flipping their stance and accusing Yea Forums of wanting to censor games
Either Japanese tiddy games and Life is Strange 2 are both okay. Or neither of them are. How are you cum-guzzling knuckle-draggers not getting this?
Obviously there are some fucks ITT that want to report that game for various reasons: they hate the series, they hate dontnod, they want to watch the world burn, they're contrarians, but I never said anything of the sorts. I barely saw the thread and I only pointed out the reason it was made which was to show Steam's hypocrisy over banning anime games that have that shit but accepting western.
You keep projecting, tell me more about who I am.
>he doesn't know
SeeIm not asking you to try to get this banned, nor i will do it so, as i know its a pointless battle, but if you think trying to be "righteous" and "fair" against people who dont mind being hypocrites then you are the fucking retard. They know they are being unfair and want you to be fair so you can be crushed easily.
OP's still mad about that VAC I see.
liberals are capable of self-reflection
Not really.
>15-16: 1st year
>16-17: 2nd year
>17-18: 3rd year
>people understanding the law and telling you what it is is the same thing as advocating it
You should stop using words you don't understand, since you're the dissonant one and are just projecting. The word you should have used is hypocrite, and we're fully aware the position is hypocritical. You're the one experiencing stress because you don't realize your position is contradictary.
This. Weeb games being censored are fanservice or blatant sexualization of women, underage or not. Game modes that exist only so you can touch the girls while they squeak. LiS2 scene is just a regular sex scene in a story that isn't sexualizing anyone. The intentions of the developers and the audience of those games are completely different.
Mental gymnastics a la
This. Censorship is a black-and-white issue. You can't have it both ways.
C'mon man, don't come with that subjectivism bullshit, just grow some balls and admit you only care about yourself and your first world problem, you are in fucking Yea Forums, nobody cares, and sure as hell you are fooling nobody except yourself, if you seriously think loli erogues in steam are a just cause to fight for in this world and age.
so you're saying you're in agreement with the user who's saying you're operating on pure emotion and no logic at all?
>rance raping a loli explicitly just because for 90% of the game is the same as some movie tier fade to black character development that leads to a bad end
I'm reading through the thread and noticed this too, notably from anti-anime fags (probably a mix of retardera/reddit/OAG cronies), they seem to think that we have to pick a side between east and west when in reality we should be against censorship in both.
Because Asians don't have massive asses.
A tastefully done romance scene is not the same as big anime titties and explicit sexual content meant only to get your pee pee hard
Sorry if companies are finally growing spines and demanding some level of dignity by not allowing degenerate smut on their platforms. You want your hentai VNs so badly go to the many other websites that cater to you and stop whining. Grown men crying about titties being censored is the most pathetic thing imaginable.
This is what happens when tribal mentalities set in. As long as it's for the good of their side, consistency on their points doesnt matter one bit
It's ok if SJWs do it, fascist
Rules for thee but not for me
>i'm now pro-censorship because it happened to me once
LITERALLY your argument
>no one bat a fucking eye
Guess again.
>VAC Ban
>for publishing games
Just couldn't help saying something stupid, could you?
>cognitive dissonance
If they had cognitive dissonance, they would hold the belief that anime titties should not be banned while this should be. None of them actually think this should be banned. Everybody realizes it has artistic merit, even if they don't like it. The point they are making is to try to get it banned because of a double standard. That is hypocritical, because they are against banning anime titties but trying to get non anime titties banned to prove a point, but there isn't an ounce of cognitive dissonance as proved by the fact they would not do the same thing had anime titties not been banned.
Please, for the future, learn what things mean before you try to laugh at people while saying it.
What is there even to debate? Big companies aggressively censor stuff to please SJW culture all the time and have been doing it since GG. Since life is strange is a property about empowered teenage girls of course it gets a pass. This shit is a no-brainer, what is there even to debate?
funny how you only care now that it threatens you
maybe you should have taken our side to begin with
better luck next time
Only resetera and Twitter faggots care
You have it backwards. It's because I care about others that I am against this censorship. I haven't and never will partake in type of censored content that is currently being discussed, so it doesn't (currently) affect me. Certainly, though, another reason I am against it is because it will eventually come for content I do enjoy.
>liberals are capable of self-reflection
>A tastefully done romance scene
who are you to decide what is tasteful and well done? Why should anyone be allowed to decide that? Either you allow everything or you dont
Oh damn, is that resetra? We lost now lads, can't beat that powerhouse!
When did he say that?
That looks like Jim Sterling honestly
I don't like them either but not allowing things to exist because we don't like them is, ironicaly enough, childish shit behaviour.
And our society of "mature adults that worry about morality" keeps acting like children and going against asian shit because it's an art style they don't like.
For me even loli should be fine, it's not real. I'm tired of this moralfaggotry coming from people who fought that exact shit just a few years ago when I was younger.
I still remember all the problems with Jack Thompson and his speeches against video games and how they turn you into a killer or molester and now all the media and leftists who fought against him are using his same arguments against anything they don't like.
how low is your IQ that you just assume that everyone who is against censoring this game was FOR censoring other games? Literally, how do you even dress yourself in the morning?
That's my point.
god amerifats ruin everything
>those stupid ear holes and half shaved head
The majority of normal people think that sexualizing underage characters is fucked up.
ok you made me kek
>LiS2 scene is just a regular sex scene in a story that isn't sexualizing anyone
How do you include a sex scene, without sexualizing the characters? Aren't they being sexualized by virtue of having sex?
I think what you really meant to say was that the characters in LiS aren't subject to the harm of the "male gaze."
But even if I take your argument at face value like a dope. It doesn't even stand up. Because the game includes cheeky shots of the character's bodies. If they truly wanted to tell the story in an artistic fashion, they wouldn't show the character's nude bodies. Much like how in the first LiS, characters only stripped to their underwear for the swimming scene, and slept in their clothes.
So are you saying that the nudity in LiS2 is necessary? That leaving out the nudity would harm the artistic integrity of the game?
This. That's why we need to be proactive and declare war on everyone to stop everything before it affects us.
Tribal niggers unite!
Really helps you understand why Yea Forums wasn't receptive of retards who liked "mature" anime or whatever. It inevitably leads to retards like this infesting your community. Also, as Miyazaki said, what the fuck is wrong with wanting to be in love with a 16 year old?
>You are no longer allowed to reminisce about times earlier in your life when you felt love and weren't as jaded because the thought police say that's exploiting children
I find it quite weird really, though maybe not surprising. If someone sees hypocrisy in something and they want to point it out 99% of the time they do it because they obviously know hypocrisy is simply wrong and that it shouldn't happen at all. That's just logical.
Yet others, when they see it being pointed out, they completely flip it and claim that "oh so now you want it to happen/oh you want it to happen to EVERYBODY".
it's pretty obvious when you jump into this thread to defend it
you aren't tricking anyone
Calling people pedophiles is not an argument. Even if they are, not an argument. Or are you just repeating the moral stances of your group. This groupthink bs is tiresome.
Here's some from Twitter. Liberals everywhere hate Japan.
Yes, and so it's been for pretty much all of our history. Good job blowing this up so normies start fighting you.
This but unironically
>mfw I'm pro censorship now
Thanks retardera, now I understand how good it is to take fun from others.
this but unironically
>psychowave writes like a retard who is desperate for attention
>psychowave has idiotic opinions
I wonder if there is a correlation
>350 replies for a shill thread
Do the janitors work for Valve?
Weird. You'd call me liberal too and I like nippon. Might as well post the Facebook wall with conservatives shitting on japs fukushima disaster as divine punishment for pearl harbour if we're gonna play that game
Whiter than you Mohammed
>Live is strange, i dont know what that is, sounds like a indie leftist anti donald trump game
WTF IS THAT FAGGOT SAYING
Im not trying to get this banned, im 100% pro feedom of expression, but if you think the other side will give a fuck when another animu game get censored you are stupid, they will make an excuse and feel justified, just like you are trying to make me feel bad for pointing out the hypocrisy.
I know its a losing battle i have for freedom, and the others know that the other sjw side will never be anticensorship (which you might be part of), only when it suits them, so i dont berate them for wanting to ban this out of spite and betray their values, for they would be ok with this game if what they liked hadnt been censored first. I just know its pointless, as the sjw thrives in the double-standard, they will make an excuse to let this pass and censor the next anime game that doesnt have a fucking minor sex scene like this one does, but makes them feel "icky" so its ok.
And the world will keep spinning.
>You'd call me liberal too and I like nippon.
I wish more liberals were like you.
str8
Link me to the post where I said that faglord.
I think both games have a right to exist, and you can’t laud one while condemning the other. This hypocrisy needs to be made an example of.
Golden-era Simpsons has a whole episode on this shit that explains it in no unclear terms. I’m sure a pop-culture loving ReshitEra snowflake like you has to have seen it at least once.
He did point out a very logical thing, though. Not doing anything while hypocrites and unfair people push you down or censor things is not a good strategy. "Being the better man" just works in some situations. Mostly when you already have lots of support. It doesn't work when you're on the defensive and losing cultural or any other kind of battle.
But you probably know that and using these "arguments" in bad faith anyway.
You know what's worse than pedo weebs? Pedo weeb snitches
>posting retarded e-celebs
Fuck off, it's obvious why this is a thing and the double standard has existed now for a while. Nothing is gonna change until the all of these loons are gotten rid of permanently. By all means you can try to do something about it, however with the modern political climate and gaming industry it's doubtful anything will change.
>Human figure and emotions is somehow against or devoid of artist merit
Puritanism is a disease. Almost all of human reason is derived from a desire for sex. Saying something pornographic isn't art is absurd. Not all porn is art but porn can be art, just like not all movies are art but can be art. If Sasha Grey Licks Toliet while getting Railed isn't art then neither is The Avengers, but something doesn't lose it's "art" card because a penis goes into a vagina and it arouses people.
>call me liberal
Xir have to go back, tranny. Call your wife(male to female transgender, non binary) before xir calls Tyrone.
Yes it's the same thing because they're both fictional stories and you don't even have real life actors doing those actions. The context is the thing that's different but context should only determine what rating to give it to serve as a warning label for whoever cares about what they see, not whether or not it should exist and it especially shouldn't turn its creator into a criminal.
A fictional portrayal of a human being is only that and NOT an actual human being. "Killing" that character doesn't make you a murderer and having them fuck another fictional character doesn't make you some sort of sexual predator
Leftists have decided you're alt-right if you're reasonable, sorry.
Get fucked pedo
>arguing for other games to be censored because a game you wanted got censored is logical
yeah that's definitely not the absolute boot-licker stance at all. So if you get wronged once, you advocate for the same shit to happen to everyone under the guise of "point out hypocrisy".
>I got in trouble for leaving work 5 minutes early so now I snitch on all my co-workers if they do the same, fuck hypocrisy!
>I got arrested for possession of marijuana so now I call the cops on my neighbors if I smell smoke, fuck hypocrisy!
literally your logic, you are double-digit IQ brainlets who can't understand that other people being mistreated doesn't actually negate your own mistreatment
>How is it cp if both of them are teenagers
>whatever the case, a minor is involved.
wrong, the thing thats involved i not a minor, its a videocharacter.
also 16+ is ok for propably 7/8th of the world. the usa is the only country in the world that propably treats 16yo like children
This game is not only for titilation. Sure. But why is it OK in that case, but ecchi stupid shit for titilation is BAD and should CEASE TO EXIST.
Why can't we have both?
>Imagine being so mentally ill you spend your days getting upset and outraged at fictional stuff you don't like
>disregard the fact it's fictional and try to defend the rights and life of non-existent characters, regardless of age, race, species, what have you
>but somehow be fine with lgbtq real life sexualization of minors because it's progressive
Rent free.
That's LITERALLY the opposite of what he said you ape
Maybe in burgerstan and bongland. Thank God I'm not an Anglo though.
Considering their whole Movie and TV industry runs on child semen by this point, of course they attack games to make everything else look better.
Specifically white people
u mad bro?
>muh Anglo
KILL YOURSELF.
KILL. YOUR. SELF. ASS. HOLE.
A scene where two teenagers are completely covered is different than a scantily clad Loli that only has her nipples and pussy covered by a microbikini.
Have sex
>What do you mean, loli cunny smasher 2 isn't the same as tastefully implied sex scene in a game?
Alright
What can we do to fix it?
>Why can't we have both?
Liberals.
>Link me to the post where I said that faglord.
Just look at all of your posts defending censorship because it happened to you once. Did you read your own posts before hitting submit?
Or, wait... you can't actually be stupid enough to think that getting another game censored is going to make them re-think censoring whatever game you were butthurt about in the first place, right? Surely anyone with an even half-functioning brain would realize that you're just advocating for more censorship.... right?
>some 16 yo make out in the water
>there is no actual sex
>C-C-CHILD EXPLOITATION
can it get even more stupid?
When American's do it, it's progressive.
Damn I forgot I own this. I need to go unlock all the girls
I believe this is the very scene you were thinking.
youtube.com
No genitalia is visible in either situation, user.
>you need consent from 2D girls before you're allowed to fap to them
This is what these fags actually believe
>videocharacter
>6+ is ok for propably 7/8th of the world
Alright. Then anime games should also be allowed.
POST THE WEBM
POST IT
I can't be arsed to look it up on youtube let alone playing that walking sim.
Why link Arch Warhammer. This fucknugget is so up his own ass sniffing his ego farts that he has no ground to stand as a neutral party journalist.
There's a difference between hardcore porn involving kids and a game with a slightly sexy scene.
user... I agree with what you just said. I'm just playing their game, so they understand how ridiculous they sound when they have their own logic fly in their face.
I would rather live in a world where both LiS2 and weeb games can be published uncensored.
Also, it's kind of nuts that LiS is popular in Japan, but hated by weebs. They even went out of their way to give LiS a proper Japanese dub.
>Weeb games being censored are fanservice or blatant sexualization of women, underage or not.
And that should be banned/censored? Why? Why should the intention matter? It matters on the value you'll give that thing, and it can be considered trash easily, but banning? Not allowing things to exist on the basis that you don't personally like it? That's fundamentalist shit.
Better tell Sony.
But they are faggot. You can easily buy loli erogame hmangas or cg set digitally nowadays.
Sony only censors weebshit
>American: "Euro's sure are dumb."
>European: "99% of blacked cuckold porn is made in America"
>American "I WILL LITERALLY FUCKING DIE FOR ZOG YOU EUROFAG SCUM! USA! USA! USA!"
Of course the scene could be done without nudity, but in this case is harmless, natural and it's not objectifying the characters at all. The scene it's about the characters and not about the sex, while the anime games are only about the sex. Even when this game is most explicit, a game mode that exist only so you touch the girls and they lose clothes in the process is obviosly more sexual adn tasteless and you should see why SJWs would be agaisnt one and not the other.
lol at this ignorant amerimutt sjw view on french. nothing but asshole-y western centrism
you dont understand what frogs do. frogs wouldnt screech against anime games like you fucking stupid delusional amerimutts. they dont really side with you.
user... holy shit. That's exactly what I was talking about, you're further proving my point by completely misreading my post. That is the actual OPPOSITE of what I said.
Hopefully I can explain this in words an idiot could understand:
Me pointing out that steam accepts Life is Strange is me pointing out the hypocrisy in them removing anime games that contain characters that look underaged and do even the slightest lewd thing. You following me?
The reason I'm doing that is because, normally, logically, we don't agree with hypocrisies as they are unfair and could potentially violate human rights. Hope I didn't lose you so far.
What I would WANT to happen after that is that NO GAME should be treated like that, NO GAME should be censored. Me pointing out the hypocrisy is the building block of my argument because it shows that THEY CAN CHOOSE NOT TO CENSOR OTHER GAMES SINCE THEY GIVE THIS ONE A PASS.
I don't want them to censor/remove Life is Strange, I want them to stop treating OTHER games unjustly and don't censor/remove them because they showed they can keep them with this game.
Was that easy enough for you?
Op is seething about valve not sony. Valve has always allowed games like senran uncensored.
I can see Evenicle on the store, and that game lets me fuck a loli
A feral killer loli
>kids
These two were removed and censored at some point because of Steam policies. Do they looks like kids to you?
yes, they should.
america is propably the only kontinent in the world making a deal out of shit like this.
>gore, guns, etc
completely fine
>cartoon character
fucking disaster awakens
>16yo making out
p-p-p-p pedophilia!
in my country 16 yo girls literally are allowed to marry.
Okay, great. None of these weeb games are hardcore porn. Glad we sorted that out.
All hardcore porn games. Girls look 16-17 like op.
>Surely anyone with an even half-functioning brain would realize that you're just advocating for more censorship
He made it pretty clear he wasn't. Is libel really how liberals debate people these days?
Steam : FINE EVERYTHING IS ALLOWED EXCEPT FUCKING CHILDREN YOU CAN DO ANYTHING EXCEPT FUCK A CHILD
Japan : WTF OUR RIGHTS!!!!
I know, I was venting. Sorry.
This game is also on the Playstation
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This isn't a steam issue, this is an 'The industry has gone fucking bananas and is racist against Japan' issue.
Fuck the person who made this video for not pointing this out. That Sony will ban a game for its characters having large tits but not for showing JB ass and tits.
>I agree with what you just said. I'm just playing their game, so they understand how ridiculous they sound when they have their own logic fly in their face.
Except that is not what is going to happen. First of all nobody is going to look at this and think it's actually comparable to lolicon, and in the end you will just have been advocating for even stricter censorship, because if some teenagers having semi-realistic implied sex isn't OK, there's LITERALLY NO CHANCE that lolicon is.
So hentai games are not hardcore porn? Wtf lol.
>pedo weebs are this autistic
please just kill yourselves
Including this, I have made exactly three posts in this thread. Stop thinking everyone who isn’t agreeing with you is a hivemind you disgusting cretin.
Yeah and those guys seem to have a influence in the industry
The banned/censored games being discussed are not hentai games.
>Waaahhhh I should be allowed to show tits and ass of a realistic rendered 16 year old but you can't have literal drawn cartoons!
Just admit that the problem you have is that they're japanese
Its because they saw in that a case an opportunity do pass a law to give them free reigns in cases like that, regardless of context. "Never attribute to malice what can be explained with stupidity, but never rule out malice". We underestimate those retards, once in a while they can make a move this disgusting and effective.
It should technically be illegal almost everywhere it's sold besides some third world countries
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>Girls look 16-17 like op
>literally anime bad 3d western models good
Sean looks underage and that's fine>
>some of them are short
yikes
I'm the user who said that. And i'm not defending or claiming it should be banned. All i'm saying is that is not hypocrisy wanting games that exist only for objectification of women censored, while not being against the Lis2 scene, because the Lis2 scene it's not objectifying at all. Also, Sony or Steam choosing not to allow that kind of content in their platforms anymore it's not denying those games their right to exist. Those devs can look for a different place to sell their games if they want.
>Of course the scene could be done without nudity
So why is it in there? Why is there EXCESS nudity? It's not natural. These scenes aren't real life. They're written and directed. And you can be certain that the devs combed over every shot, to make sure it was exactly what they wanted.
So if the nudity was not needed, then why did they include it? Fact is, it was to excite. To titillate the audience.
>while the anime games are only about the sex
If the anime girls were only about sex, then why would they put in a touching game mode? It appears that the game you're referring to, has a system where the player can build up the character's affections. Romancing them. This is the opposite of explicit. The player uses gradually affection, so that the characters eventually consent to barring themselves. What's wrong with that?
eroge characters arent underage. devs never state it and theres no need to do it. this argument isnt even new in japan but in burger mutt land its new and seems like they cant handle it.
>yes, they should
Why the fuck are we arguing then?
And what's considered underage keeps changing. It wasn't always 18 (still isn't everywhere at all) and if it changes to being 25 (which is when our brains are actually fully developed) people will be called pedos for loving 19yos.
Going along with norms and not criticizing them is stupid.
It is when people argue from a stand of anti-censorship. Don't pretend that wanting to fuck over Steam and Dontnod isn't a personal vendetta for screwing over Japanese developers. Surely you can't be this stupid.
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>Girls look 16-17 like op
>literally anime bad 3d western models good
Sean looks underage and that's fine?
>some of them are short
yikes
You're playing some bizarre semantics to avoid cognitive dissonance. You are advocating for censorship, but you are convincing yourself that it is OK, because you are using this stance *as a method of pointing out hypocrisy*. But it doesn't actually matter, the ends don't justify the means because there are no ends, only means, and ultimately you will have simply fought for more censorship because Valve does not really CARE WHY YOU CAUSED THE OUTRAGE, they will just react to the outrage.
>Man, why is the boss treating our group so bad, I wish he'd stop. Wait, he's not giving your group shit all the time, what's going on here?
>What, so you want him to give ALL of us shit, how can you be so selfish?
Sometimes I think these are just apes in a lab that sit on a computer all day
Yes they are. Stop reading oneangryincel and his fake news. His site is just a nintendo propaganda site. His objective is to make Nintendo look good while shitting on valve by posting fake infos to make them look bad.
good, let's censor every game then after the industry collapses and sjws have to find a different grift we'll rebuild
realistically though it won't even have to go that far, as soon as these companies realize censorship is lighting their money on fire we'll win immediately
If you don't like your rules maybe you shouldn't have enacted them
If you don't like steam's rules maybe you should fight against that, instead of trying to apply them.
>Is Steam endorsing underage sex?
>It's okay when young adult novels and movies do it.
I'm genuinely getting tired of the U.S but I can't afford to live anywhere else. Where were these people when Justin Bieber's first break out song was about losing his virginity?
Applying them is fighting against them. Hurting a company's wallet is the only thing they ever listen to.
I guess postin is back. Let me try again. Ahem...
The Japanese games being censored, are with characters who are 17+ I'm told.(I don't play them, so I'm just going by what I've read) But even if they were as young as 15, it won't change anything. They're not even nude. They are censored where they might be nude. And in some cases, the SJWs are going so nuts, that they're chastising characters for showing too much thighs. Like with that new Persona character.
Point is, the idea that anime lolicon, and western is teenagers is ridiculous. Both are teenagers.
sjws never stop tho. given the comic industry they dont care about low sales at all, and they just fire employees going down
jap men like fucking children cause they have tiny shrimp dicks
We are long over due for a second video game crash.
i want to exploit this child
No it isn't? Acting within the guidelines that someone setup isn't a protest to those guidelines, it is literally supporting them.
If your problem with steam is Censorship, don't use Steam.
If your problem with steam is Japanese targeted censorship, don't use Steam.
If your problem with Steam is Japanese targeted censorship, DEMAND STEAM CENSOR MORE GAMES!!!!!
See how one of those doesn't make any sense.
That's stupid. The average height of a fully grown Japanese woman is already smaller than a white pig teenager.
>waaaaa pls dont target my homo underage games
If one goes down, the others should too.
Fighting fire with fire is an actual thing and is very effective
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Fuck off, Sargonite.
>another american age of consent thread
Right but you are arguing that point from Steam's point of view.
If you were a rational person you'd argue that "if one goes down, the others should too" would be a really great reason not to censor any games.
Instead like a reactionary bitch you are using that logic to censor all games. Congratz you've become the out of touch idiot who will gladly castrate the entire industry out of loyalty to your anime tits.
>Another third world kid fucker thread
>its not CP because they're 16
legal porn doesnt show 16 year olds either
can someone tell me how in my state it's legal for me to fuck my 16 year old girlfriend, but it's not legal for me to share nudes with her?
>let's just pretend this doesn't happen all the time
Why didn't it happen to me you dumb nigger
>4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules
Degenerates btfo.
The same reason you can fuck her, but not drink with her.
Your balls stink and you had no game.
agreed.
Which one of them is supposed to be the girl?
age of consent laws are just batshit retarded, because people are hypocrites and oppressive by nature
so you're saying drinking and sharing nudes is the same thing.
Ff14 isn't porn.
Because it's retarded?
Haha!
I literally only talked about buying loli hentai games hmangas etc.
>life is strange is allowed because it's leftist
Oh come on. Way to fail at your analysis after almost getting it right.
Sure fuck Life is Strange, but its politics has nothing to do with it. Life is Strange is allowed because it's western and doesn't look Japanese, not because of politics. It's the same reason for why The Witcher, Mass Effect, Cyberpun 2077, or GTA or whatever are all allowed too.
>but those are all leftist too!
Sure, whatever, but that's not why they're allowed in spite of everything
You talking to faggots who think hardcore porn is the same as a panties shot
It's a marketplace, not endorsement.
>it's western and doesn't look Japanese, not because of politics.
this is called bigotry or racism. which is ideology driven politics.
This is fucking stupid. Kys
Do you think you're going to trick us or something? Yes, we know censorship is bad. You wouldn't listen when we told you it was bad, so now we'll show you. Maybe next time you'll listen.
No, they aren't, because fictitious beings don't have rights.
long haired one
>bigotry or racism
>which is ideology driven politics
Eh? In what way? You'll find bigotry and racism across all of human history and across the full political spectrum as well as in all contexts. It's just human nature.
Underage teens have sex.
Why don't you?
Based "a company can do whatever it wants" retard
That's just a kiss though, in this game theres balls deep hardcore fucking.You can see the jizz and all that other stuff.
Then in that case they should have not removed those animu games for "child exploitation".
Cringe snoynigger
90% of people were having some form of sex at 16.
Good. Fuck weebs.
Why are Europeans so obsessed with violence and underage sex?
Do they show it? If no then whatever
Now if there's underage nudity, they definitely should take it down until it's patched out.
More like
>European:"ALLAHU ACHKBAR PIG AMERICAN GIVE ME WELFARE AND WHITE UNDERAGE GIRLS"
i'm 27 and i unironically had more sex when i was underage than when i was of age.
There is nudity but they never specify her age.Is that ok?
>two teenagers fucking = fucking a child in vr
>guys why are humans sexual beings aagh so icky
Is kneeling still a thing in muttlandia?
Still whiter than you Jamal llol
Yeah, they shouldn't have, because you can't exploit constructs.
You can't enslave Alexa/Siri, you can't molest a car, and you can't get arrested for murdering a fictional character in a book otherwise GRRM would be in jail for life.
No, but they break the same laws.
One rule for us, one rule for the goyem
Asshurt christcuck and kekcucks begone from our videogames.
>being this underage
No wonder this place is falling apart
>sinking to their level
Congrats, they just won
>calling me underage
gtfo our videogames tourist
Who are you quoting?
We are the masters now, incel. First we take your waifus, then your games, then your lives.
rest of world doesn't even know this shit exists
>incels actually play this
Give me one reason why men who are virgin past the age 16 shouldn't be castrated
99% of Yea Forums
Just saw it, it's literally just an unfocused butt shot of the dude, and unfocused side shot of a boob, that's it, and it's played for laughs. I thought op meant something explicit. It's still weird as fuck that the devs spent time making these character models but it's nothing to write home about...granted this could be a slippery slope in the future if left unchecked.
Is the writer for this game a woman? If so I can see how they managed to get away with this. They could just patch the game with a higher camera angle to hide the nudity, sorta like what they did with R. Mika in sfv
>it's sure as shit isn't "child exploitation".
neither are anime games
Could you link the post you're quoting?
racism or bigotry doenst happen when you are totally isolated from the world/society because you dont have the outside of your world.
a society defines the outside. racism happens when you are a member of society, and accept the common senses of the society.
valve banns the outsiders who dont fit their common senses, policies. its similar to a cultural segregation. nothing but politics.
Itt: non-american third worlders are seething again
you can vote once you're 16 here
>castrate the entire industry
good
But it is the puritans and cencorship advocates from the election and other assorted shitholes that is throwing a bitchfit