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Kayden Howard
boy let's hope they don't pull another ps3 out of hubris huh
Jaxon Phillips
Sneed
Leo Scott
It's sort of silly that over 1% of humanity owns a PS4.
Blake Johnson
where's my cut?
Zachary Ross
Man they really had no competition this gen...
Jason Watson
my thoughts are that this thread will be deleted in a few minutes because this is nintendogaf
Ryder King
Here
*unzips dick
Dominic Thompson
All those sweet exclusive games, enjoy
Matthew Harris
yeah haha
Mason White
It's the best console of this generation so it deserves to sell the most.
Lucas Ross
Wow what a shit generation
Aaron Taylor
there's no chance this is not happening.
Colton Gonzalez
Good for them. They don't appeal to me but I'm impressed they can sell online subscriptions and and short movie games for $60.
Thomas Jones
Remember to mod your vita and download everything for free.
Asher Rodriguez
Found the PC gamer
Hudson Lee
Power of marketing. Microsoft took the XBone out back and shot it every time they had a chance to make it look good.
The XboneX (fuck that name) only claim to fame was that it was going to be the most powerful console this generation
Would it have good exclusive games? No.
Would Microsoft fund smaller studios to help populate its library? No.
Would you be able to cross-play with other platforms? No.
Would it have VR? No.
Would it be less expensive than a PS4? No.
Would it be able to change graphical fidelity like the PS4Pro? No.
Would it have backwards compatibility? Sort-of
Will Windows Crossplay work with every game? Most games.
So why would you buy an Xbone? Why would you ever buy a console if it just does the job of a shitty computer? This is what happens when they won the last generation and attributed it to the 360 being unique or special and not because of marketing and games.
Now that's out of the way, I expect to happen and the PS5 to instantly give the player a lethal dose of radiation on start-up.
Hudson Adams
>Already sold more than Wii
>Almost overtaking GOAT PS3 sales
Domination, baby.
Michael Murphy
My PS4 is still just a fighting game machine
Owen Russell
This.
Brandon Cox
Microsoft hasn't done nearly as well this gen as they did with the 360, so it's no surprise Sony is winning.
Tyler Baker
I am a SONY drone and I am getting tired of winning
Carter Foster
Can't wait to see them pass that on to the consumers.
Gavin Walker
>company makes massive mounts of dosh
>pass none of it onto the loyal customerbase that gave them that money in the first place
>don't invest it into better hardware, better online, better security, or game development
>"no refunds goy"
Basically, what these guys said.
Eli Evans
You might as well say even worse about the 5th and 6th console gens then because Sony consoles sold even more back then compared to their competitors.
Joseph Murphy
They have no competition
Xbox doesn't have exclusives and Switch only has exclusives, there's no other reasonable choice for people who want a console for multiplats unless they have friends who play on Xbox
Benjamin Watson
Post your face when you're not Nintendo.
Julian Gonzalez
Why would they do that? They said the PS4 is the best place to play games. Just deal with it goy!
Nicholas Johnson
Yeah also the PS brand has the Japanese 3rd party devs by the balls. They have their support by default.
Sebastian Watson
Glad you are, because the next generation is coming and Sony is starting to fall to its own hubris before it even starts.
Like most generations, it starts with one bad decision, then they double down with another,then they go back on some of their bad decisions and start making others, then you get an XBone at launch that has a camera built-into it that you can't turn off or a six-core processor that has nogaems that support it or a lame mock-up of your previous wagglin' console that has a second screen that no one asked for.
Sony is getting out of touch and I suspect the first of the awful decisions about the PS5's design will come to light shortly.
Kevin Hughes
Zero profit AND moving every exclusive to the ps5 in fear of Microsoft e3
Jace Adams
What's worse is that people defend it.
>WOW LOOK AT THESE AMAZING PROFITS
>okay but how does this help you, the player? You still have security breaches every other year, they're still cracking down on the content of games on their platform, and you still pay way too much for VR.
>SHUT UP XFAG REEEEEEE
Landon Morris
is the ps4 worth in this year, i`m gonna have the money to buy one in a few months, but i don`t know if i should wait for the ps5 announcement, in wich i hope it`s backwardsa compatible with at least ps2,and psone
Parker Collins
Wii won last gen, dipshit.
Connor Powell
The PS2 was great. The PS3 had a shit start but came into its' own.
There is little advantage that the PS4 has over the last two generations aside from Sony at least understanding that it has to fund games to get games. Something Microsoft just forgot because I imagine it's ran by monkeys at this point.
The PS4 doing well now is only because its competition is mentally disabled.
Bentley James
Sure bud.
Kayden Sullivan
Sony should thank this man
Jace Perry
>Ps3 disaster
Is not the first time .
Noah Walker
lol salty PC turds, I like how you delude into saying they don't invest in game development
Lel movie amirite XD
very delusional
Xavier Gonzalez
It's not. Shawn already addressed the shortcomings of PS3 at that summit, and said it would never happen again. Sucks to be a doomfag.
Oliver Gonzalez
Apparently yeah the PS5 is going to be backwards compatible with PS4 games. They didnt say if that was the case with the other gens though.
And yeah I would suggest waiting for the PS5 and see how much it would cost.
If it's like 400, yeah if I were in your shoes I would just buy a PS5 and play PS4 games while waiting for the Bloodborne of next gen.
Unless you want something cheaper now then yeah go for it sure.
Jack Scott
Keep reporting the thread Nintendies. Make sure to scream for James while you're at it.
Thomas Perez
>ITS ONLY SUCCESSFUL CAUSE COMPETITION SUCKS!!!!
wow what a revelation, top dogs are better then competition more at 11
Joshua White
NO NO NO NO... IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FAIL
SNOY SNOY SNOY
Cameron Hall
I pay 200 dollars tops for any VR solution on the market, and I got over a dozen to choose from.
What about you? Oh you had to buy a new console to get VR.
You still have security breaches every year because Sony has retards managing its IT
and you still have to pay for online because you idiots just sucked it down when they wanted to adopt the XBox model.
Don't lecture anyone about being delusional, queer.
Eli Smith
There's no competition for the PS5 unless Microsoft wakes rhe fuck up and get some god damn exclusives for their next console.
No one cares about Nintendo when it comes to "hardcore gaming".
Carter Gonzalez
thanks, guesss i`ll wait for the next absolutely state of play to see if the ps5 price, and hopefully some games
Gavin Smith
>Shawn already addressed the shortcomings of PS3 at that summit, and said it would never happen again.
They said this about the Vita, too. The fact of the matter is that just because they won't repeat the *same shortcomings* doesn't mean they won't have a set of new shortcomings.
Jaxson Reyes
The PS2 was the most underpowered console of its generation if we don't count Dreamcast in the same gen. Multiplatform games were always better on Xbox and even Gamecube. The only real difference is the same difference PS4 has now. It has a ton of games including the lesser more niche games from Japan. That is it. How about just admit that for whatever reason Sony is just dominating this industry as far as support goes? They have yet to have a flop of a gaming console not called the PSP Vita which was a handheld anyways. Not a single one of their home consoles as of yet has sold less than 80 million units. I can't see PS5 being any different.
Its competition has been retarded for decades. Nintendo has only continued to survive as long as they have because of their insanely strong franchises that put them over the top thanks also in large part to nostalgia. For Xbox if it weren't for Halo Microsoft wouldn't even be making consoles anymore past the Xbox OG.
Jaxson Hughes
Didn't they say that they're cutting down on AAA games though? Won't that mean even less exclusives than this gen?
Samuel Evans
>Oh you had to buy a new console to get VR.
You dont, stopped reading there cause you're retarded
Luis Kelly
We did it Era!
Chase Parker
Looks the the Wii is getting knocked out of place next.
youtube.com
Jason Nelson
>goldenface.jpeg
Eli Sanders
Still one of the worst video game console reveals of all time.
Cooper Jones
Ryan Flores
> It has a ton of games including the lesser more niche games from Japan.
Literally the only reason why i bought a Ps4 and now sony is trying to kill that market FML.
Jaxon Reed
No
Andrew Brooks
those data are bullshit, it's like adding the mega CD sales to the megadrive sales and pretend the sega won the gen.
Adrian Myers
can i get a cross analysis of actual active ps4 users
Dylan Watson
It's still getting them. But butchered this time. :^)
Gabriel Martin
Remember when Marvel wasn't at Hall-H last year, yet still controlled 80% of the conversation? E3 will be the same, except Microsoft has to figure out a way to hold an audience without paid shills.
Alexander Carter
Do you think Sony is actually goinh to talk moree about their next gen system at around E3?
Gabriel White
Remember.
>kept 50+ million people's passwords and credit cards in an unencrypted wordpad file
Robert Edwards
This is true but the ignorance by some of these guys on here is astounding. When you go look up the sales breakdown of the sixth generation and fifth you begin to see the bigger picture that Sony has been dominating this industry in reality for decades while Nintendo has stayed relevant due to very strong brand loyalty from their diehards that are zealot like in their love for Nintendo. Mario, Link and their other shit may as well be like religion to Nintendo fans they are that worshiped. As for Sony I think its just that the mass of casuals see Playstation as the go to gaming consoles for their fix. Microsoft almost had it last gen but Microsoft being Microsoft just continued to make an ass of themselves and lost it for this gen.
If it weren't for casuals you could remove over half of all current gen console sales in total and probably get closer to the real number of actual video game fans and I guarantee the lions share of that half would be coming mostly out of Sony because to be a Xbox fan these days you have to likely be a diehard that doesn't want to let go or a Nintendo Heretic which will imo never die out.
Aaron Hernandez
Remember every company has been hacked moron
Connor Garcia
So they are going to keep making single player movies?
Xavier Wright
Hasn't Microsoft landed third place every gen? Why do they keep trying?
Aiden Gonzalez
>If it weren't for casuals you could remove over half of all current gen console sales in total and probably get closer to the real number of actual video game fans
>and I guarantee the lions share of that half would be coming mostly out of Sony
Fucking lol
Matthew Gutierrez
this dude literally hurt the xbox brand so much his ass literally got fired a few weeks after the xbox one reveal!!!! HOLY SHIT
he was the cunt behind the kinect
fuck him and microsoft
I want to fuck this microsoft girl
Caleb Harris
~70 posts in and I'm getting record high levels of cope.
Robert Kelly
Leo Richardson
This is probably the peak of the PlayStation, unless China suddenly gets into consoles and decides it prefers PlayStation.
It's hard to imagine Sony having so many years to itself without any serious competition again.
Jackson Johnson
That's the thing. The only gen that had proper competition was the last one when both Microsoft and Sony were fighting hard to gain the most marketshare by seducing the casuals with the biggest AAA games. Once you lose the casuals' good grace and they go to the competiting platform, your console is already beaten. This is the case here. The PS4 was objectively the most powerful console this gen (before the mid gens) and with the right marketing deals (like pretending tht the latest COD was only in the PS4 with the ads and whatnot) Sony "tricked' the casuals to go their way.
Sony has to be careful for next gen. COD/GTA/Fifa casuals dont give a fuck about brand loyalty and they go where it's the most satisfying for them.
Also I never said that Sony doesnt have a hardcore fanbase. But it sure as shit isnt all of those 95+ million users.
Leo Lee
if you want to shitpost at least write post most people will read. every time i see shit like this i dont even read the first word
Benjamin Rogers
Of corse they do, they had to cut so many of their departments in the past, they can only profit now.
Luke James
You can't sell more than the Wii and less than PS3 because the PS3 sold less than the Wii.
Hunter Hughes
They could drop the whole brand if they wanted. This whole Xbox thing is just a side thing for Microsoft. They make a shit ton of $$$.
Hudson Cooper
>Already sold more than Wii
...You mean the Wii U, it's still got a ways to go
Adam Wright
better raise psn prices
Asher Nguyen
Fuck trannies
and
Fuck Snoy
Noah Sanders
>all that money, and can't even produce some video games for E3
Why don't they just take a small team to start making non-AAA video games based off of old IP.
Jace Johnson
What is with those unnecessary commas? That's infuriating.
Parker Myers
...
Josiah Phillips
They don't "win" but Xbox Live (and soon Gamepass) makes them enough money to keep going. It keeps Microsoft relevant for consumers.
Anthony Kelly
>brand loyalty
Is hilarious that this is a thing , i mean do you think sony /microsoft /nintendo gives a fuck about something that is not your wallet ?
Wyatt White
Pretty gay, that means next console generation will be even less unique and more like an overpriced, underpowered PC.
>inb4: durr hurr but all gonzolz are peeseez!
Only in the literal sense, they always served a different function from an actual build-a-bear customized PC, they were more streamlined directly to their purpose both in hardware and software than a PC, and didn’t even usually have an OS until relatively recently, and they were far more affordable and portable. Now I won’t be surprised if the PS5 is more than $700 at launch
Adam Morales
I hate when bad people profit, and yet it's a common occurrence in the entertainment industry. These guys censor everything like they're fucking puritans and they think it's actually the right thing to do because they're getting paid. I'm retreating to pc gaming for a while, call me back when Sony pulls their head out of the dark ages.
Jaxson Roberts
Good idea, let's handle Sony the monopoly entirely.
There's absolutely no one anymore that can get in this industry and compete with them. If MS and Nintendo get their shit together at least it isn't a monopoly market for Sony.
David Gonzalez
No one but drooling retards care about brand loyalty
William Scott
Why not? At least you're not like they're shitty fans who seek to eliminate the competition wholesale.
Aaron Russell
Console manufacturers sell at a loss on launch, and get discounts for buying in bulk. PC has literally never beat console near launch for bang-for-buck.
Nicholas Lee
If you seriously think Nintendo has much casual fans left you are sadly mistaken. Switch has done way better than Wii U for them but that is only because Wii U was a shitshow and most Switch buyers are the hardcore. Xbox is only still relevant because they to are being held up by their die hard fanbase that they at least built up the previous two gens. These die hards though might not stick around for more Microsoft fuck ups if they continue. Sony has been building this casual fanbase since the PS1. Sega which I haven't mentioned yet is another that got crushed by Sony and made so much dumb decisions they are no longer making consoles.
The industry would have been so much better off if Nintendo and Sega could have at least performed better than they did in the mid to late 90s. Fifth gen was a huge changer for this industry.
Leo Jackson
Like I said. Sony captured the casuals' attention and they're at this level because of that. The fanbase latching onto exclusives is just the icing on the cake really. and yeah that's all that matters in terms of business: market share.
Juan Myers
>Literally most games that matter this gen are free to play on PsNow
I don't know. I kind of like it alot
Jeremiah Allen
>Nintendo has stayed relevant due to very strong brand loyalty
Despite what Yea Forums wants you to believe, the vast majority of Nintendo fans are literal little kids and girls who otherwise absolutely don't give a shit about video games.
The Wii was the prime example for that, it was the "least video game" video game console. Anyone who cared about video games bought a PS3 or Xbox while families who don't even care about it bought it to the living room.
The Nintendo fans on the internet are just an extremely small and loud minority.
Aiden Campbell
Just stating how it is. Not commenting.
Ethan Myers
Looks like I have to get a shitch now. I hope Microsoft just lets Nintendo have a shitload of their brands to spite sony and their fifa box
Adrian Kelly
>Also I never said that Sony doesnt have a hardcore fanbase. But it sure as shit isnt all of those 95+ million users.
And I would argue not even half of that userbase is true diehards. The amount of casual console gamers is enormous. Yea Forums likes to say a lot that casuals all moved to mobile but that isn't fully true. A lot still also play console games. In fact most console gamers are casual.
Easton Edwards
I really wish Nintendo didn't pivot so hard after the GameCube. The switch is cool, but I can help but imagine what BOTW could have been on modern hardware.
Liam Sullivan
>Despite what Yea Forums wants you to believe, the vast majority of Nintendo fans are literal little kids and girls who otherwise absolutely don't give a shit about video games
[Source needed]
Bentley Parker
shit.come back in a month once they reach 100 mil.
Ryder Howard
Sony is still the console people buy in Europe because of FIFA. You don't see billboards and comercials for other consoles during and between football matches. And considering Europe has a lot of buying power and more than double of the population than the USA that's a big deal.
Bentley Hughes
It would’ve been asscreed mixed with Fallout 4
David Gonzalez
Microsoft is preparing two fucking consoles for the next gen. They aren't going to jump to Nintendo.
There are rumors that the lockhart might be a handheld.
Leo Thompson
Never ever, snoygger.
Austin Rivera
But I thought yuropeepees liked breasts?
Gabriel Hernandez
Do you think Nintendo makes family friendly products for the sake of 30 year old manchildren on Yea Forums and reddit?
Ayden Allen
Sony pretty much has Europe and all 3rd world countries to themselves.
Adrian Richardson
That's not the reason people buy Sony consoles in Europe. The real reason is that Sony treated mainland Europe as a first-class territory with full localisation when other console manufactuers didn't, creating a lot of brand loyalty and consoles being synonymous with PlayStation.
Kayden Powell
>NativeGaijin92
yikes
Oliver Brown
You mean you really wish people bought the GameCube?
Levi Lewis
But I own both
Sebastian Miller
Yeah and they’ll sell like 2 consoles a piece lmao. Xbox doesn’t even have exclusives anymore, half of their series are just on windows now
Gavin Richardson
Wonder how this coon looks IRL given his gay avatar
William Foster
>Do you think Nintendo makes family friendly products for the sake of 30 year old manchildren on Yea Forums and reddit?
Yeah. Have you being looked outside for a while when the Switch was hot and people were buying them? There's a lot of nostalgia manchildren.
Also dont pretend kids dont buy the other consoles just because they look "mature". Because you would be quite naive.
Oliver Clark
>half
All of them more like
Robert Kelly
Nintendo still does have a lot of diehard neckbeard fanatics though. The Wii was their massive casual console and they won out huge last gen since Wii sold the most but those casuals moved from that gimmick console to mobile or other consoles. Wii U and Switch is proving that Wii for Nintendo was just great luck for them thanks to that casual market. As of now its mostly NIntendo diehard fans buying their shit and what that true number looks like who knows. I'm guessing they got anywhere between 20-40 million die hard fans though. If Switch fails to sell past 40 million remember this post. If Nintendo does got that casual magic again they should have no issue at least matching PS3/360 last gen sales numbers.
Colton Carter
I’m glad that Sony gets rid of all that icky stuff on their platform
Samuel Perry
This is the calm before the storm. The normalfags haven't yet seen the effects of their latest policies.
Evan Green
>westerners forcing other cultures to convert to theirs over some false sense of superiority
wew lad
Adrian Jackson
I don't get it. When I was a kid, it felt like everyone owned a GameCube. I always grew up sonytendo, feels weird knowing now that the 64 and GameCube were flops
Brody Diaz
kek what policies? Those about those niche titty shovelware? lmao.
No one really cares about this shit outside of some marginal virgins here and there. Certainly not the casuals.
Logan Bell
As an european I can confirm this. Although a lot of people jumped to the 360 in 7th gen because it was 500-600 euro.
Xbox never really had a strong presence here. I don't know how or why it got popular in America in the first place. I know people were crazy about Xbox Live, Halo and open world games like Morrowind getting ported but here in Europe Counter Strike and multiplayer games like Warcraft and games like Gothic were already incredibly popular on PC. Xbox was more of a niche
I don't know about America, must be different there. but where I live there is no nostalgia for Nintendo. the people I've seen with Nintendo consoles were all girls or people who got it as a present or something but did not really care about video games otherwise.
James Thompson
They sold 50 million consoles despite fucking up for half of the generation.
Aaron Torres
that's why nintendo markets to children
Connor Diaz
Brazil and Mexico sill buy Xboxes. Europe doesn't.
Spain has a 1:6 Xbox to PS4 ratio for example
David Rodriguez
MS doesn't care anyone. They make all their money off NSA contracts. Xbone is just another red division to give the illusion of being a real business
Ryan Lewis
Also manchildren.
Matthew Perez
Cyberpunk is going to be heavily censored if it even releases on Sony platforms. Also later whenever another GTA game comes out it will probably be censored unless they’re already accounting for snoy policies
Parker Edwards
Fuck off faggot tranny.
Owen Flores
That it doesn't matter. Who the fuck cares that it sold 96.8 when it's being overshadowed by being so close to 100 mil? You should feel ashamed for making a thread about this when it would be much better to make a thread once it actually reaches 100 million sold units.
Levi Barnes
>MUH SALES
Cringe
Oliver Hill
>feels weird knowing now that the 64 and GameCube were flops
They weren't though, they were profitable. The Wii U is their only actual flop, it didn't make money.
Nintendo made more money with the GBA+GC than Sony did with the PS2 despite it outselling both of the former combined by 50 million units.
Ayden Morris
Xbone is absolutely not at 50 million sold, not even close. MS stopped releasing numbers in 2015.
Aiden Reyes
PC Sold 259million units. In 2018. But your 96 million is adorable. Good job, kiddo.
Carson Thompson
Yeah we'll see about. When was the last Western game that was censored by Sony again ?
>being realistic
>Fuck off tranny!!!!
Is that the typical go to reply that people use when they're lazy to respond properly?
Josiah Baker
>lets have a unique snowflake architecture DA CELL and also cutting edge blu-ray
Zero chance of it happening. Its just PC architecture, easy to make shit for and port around. They said 8k support but I don't think its going to require a crazy new drive like a blu-ray player did
Camden Powell
Remember when /biz/ was new and sales threads were all supposed to move there? Mods didn't keep that one up for long, did they?
William Cruz
They are somewhere past 40 million but definitely not 50.
Sony also fucked up the whole last genre but still outsold the 360 by the end
Dominic Hill
Damn that’s pretty good for something that can only play blu-ray movies. I’ll stick to my PC
Ethan Rodriguez
>pass none of it onto the loyal customerbase that gave them that money in the first place
Why would they, you stupid idiot?
You buy their shit because you enjoy it, they get your money. Of course they should listen to critical feedback and improve but they don't own you anything. If they want more money, they'll have to come up with some other good stuff and not pat your head.
It's about how MS fucked up big time.
MS stopped caring about the xbox console, they still shilled the fuck out of the X1X but it was obvious that their plan became something bigger. They rebranded Xbox and want their shit everywhere. In Playstation, in Switch, in Android, in iOS, everywhere.
Basically they want everything to use their system/service
Hudson Johnson
Sony just didn't see the transition from custom to standardised architectures happening and went all-in on a shit expensive custom architecture. Now they've suffered that transition, it would require a lot for them to totally fuck it up again.
The worst that can happen is that it's a bit underpowered compared with the Xbox. That wouldn't be ideal but wouldn't be another PS3 situation.
Kayden Garcia
*the* worst. at least ps3 reveal had *some* sort of logic to it with ps1+ps2 support and an actual name. this nigger literally thought people were gonna call his console "the One"
Justin Nguyen
Its going to fit between the two Xbox SKUs. Sony can't compete with Microsoft R&D or money throwing, so they will always have the weaker of the two if Microsoft doesn't go full gimmick.
Levi Sullivan
>They are somewhere past 40 million but definitely not 50.
I'd be surprised if they were past 40, there's millions rotting on shelves and in warehouses and estimates always have it way below what is claimed its shipped
All those digtial-only Xbones are probably repurposed return shipments too
Eli Hill
If that's the case then they'll probably win.
I actualy think Sony nailed the PS4 Pro by making it so low-key and not replacing the core console.
Xbox going for "teh h4rdc0rez" with a $700 super-console is just going to limit their audience. No-one wants to buy a shit underpowered console.
Xavier Hughes
They never said exactly how backwards compatibility would work, if there would be a fee associated, or if it would be universal. It could very well be on a game-by-game basis with a $4.99 fee to activate it.
That entire reveal Sony did lacked specifications on every single point they brought up. It made me a lot more suspicious than hyped. How vague everything was, and how many people didn't seem to notice because they're sheep with no eye for when someone is blowing smoke up their ass.
Tyler Thompson
What was the last western game to have human tits and pussy to come out after their new policies? Face it, the Witcher games would have been censored for their “juvenile sexuality” if these policies were already in place, and cyberpunk will be censored by them, since they go much further. The game that has anything near sexual in it after these policies was RDR2, in which you couldn’t have sex, and the only real female nudity was a single black prostitute in the drunk mission. Plenty of horse cock for the snoy fan base though
Aiden King
PC is composed by various companies, Sony is one company, nice try kiddo
Lincoln Nguyen
>No simple refund policy
>Paid online
>First and Third party hostage Exclusives
>no crossplay
>weak security
>have to upgrade the hardware every two years to run the lastest game on smooth 30 fps.
I love how everyone love to attack epic store but modern Consoles are the real cancer.
Thomas Gonzalez
I think we are looking at a 350 and 500 dollar box for Microsoft, and Sony sneaks in at 400. Everyone always takes a loss, but I think Sony needs that 400 dollar which isn't TOO expensive but also doesn't look cheap.
Dominic Ross
Sony has the European market and Japan. MS doesn't.
Carter Turner
They're not going to be charging for backwards compatibility - they're not idiots, plus they can make money from last-gen purchases.
It wasn't really so much a a 'reveal', it was a low-key tease to get in front of the competition. I thought it was pretty smart - give enough detail to provide a taster of what they're going for but minimise specifics until everything is locked down. Get everyone ready to know the PS5 is coming but not too soon. Kind of took the wind out of any MS hype.
Xavier Lewis
>It could very well be on a game-by-game basis with a $4.99 fee to activate it.
Oh man imagine the shitstorm if that's a thing. Nah Sony doesnt have its head up it ass that deep does it?
Eli Foster
>No-one wants to buy a shit underpowered console
Says you. I bought one for €160 and I'm super happy with it. Game pass + backward compat is gaming heaven.
Adam Wood
I can't see the more expensive version being $500 - more like $600.
I think MS releasing a $350 and $600 box would kill them. The $350 box would be dead, as no-one wants to buy the shit version, and the $600 box would be too expensive to gain significant traction.
Releasing a super-powered version later once you have an install base makes a lot more sense.
Jace Cooper
I own an Xbox One S and I'm happy with it too, but the Xbox One X is a different proposition to having a two-tier system at launch.
I think it would confuse the market and lots of people would end up buying neither, as they don't want to buy the low-end version but don't want to pay a fortune for the high-end version
Lucas White
They would do $2.99. I could see it. They'd say that each game has to be custom configured and that's the fee to reimburse their costs since "it's basically a new game after we're done making it compatible!"
Watch. This is *exactly* the kind of thing you expect from 2019. Not just Sony. I could see any platform doing it, and getting away with it.
Hudson Garcia
>Face it, the Witcher games would have been censored for their “juvenile sexuality” if these policies were already in place
Again that's a what if scenario. That doesnt hold any importance. Lets just wait for Cyberpunk to come out before being that certain about its censorship. I honestly dont see it happening butt hey we'll see.
Mason Evans
Zero chance. They could *maybe* charge for a profile update to make it perform better, with stock performance being free. But... nah, ain't happening.
Connor Torres
That's a lot of fifa microtransactions.
Julian Powell
Personally at worst I could see them doing the same as what the Xbox One did. Pay for the old games if you dont have the discs. Or otherwise it would just work if you have them.
Nathaniel Baker
You have entirely too much faith in Sony. They have shareholders to answer to. Profit is king. They nickle and dime you just like AT&T, McDonalds, Hoover, and every other corporation on the planet. They are not somehow above fucking you over just because you're in love with their toys.
Alexander Anderson
Microsoft wasn't that far behind in the Euro market, it has all the games Sony has like FIFA and shit. They also had the exclusive deals with EA for those games.
The problem was the 360 tapered off hard with how they marketed it with the Kinect investment, while Sony was pushing exclusives and Microsoft waddled with Gears Judgement and Halo 4 at the end. Even Reach wasn't that well liked until NSNB
Parker Lewis
They can't push things too far without pissing people off and ceding ground to their competitor.
And there's already a viable and highly lucrative business model of just selling digital copies of last-gen games.
Dominic Mitchell
My guess is that, if we do see this sort of charging, Sony will charge for "PS5 enhanced" upgrades of old titles, while letting the base PS4/PS4 Pro version work for free on the PS5.
It actually take time and effort to upgrade old titles with a new profile.
But I don't see Sony doing it. PS4 BC is a huge selling point for a PS5 given PS4 dominance. Half the reason the Xbone collapsed so much is the lack of 360 BC making it easier to switch consoles.
Asher Bennett
The true shittest will be if the FF7 bath scene is censored/changed.
Naked chicks? Who cares. Homophobia? that shit is gonna get clamped down on and be a testament to the new policy changes.
Connor Morgan
Well that's why these devices are cheap. They provide you the bare minimum.
Jason Myers
I guess Tifa not being shown on the State of Play was really for a reason lmao. :^)
But yeah in general with FF7, Square is going to cut a lot of shit like that. Even outside of the whole censorship thing.
Hudson Edwards
Sony has done a lot of stupid shit this year. I wouldn't put anything past them. They're clearly out of touch and not concerned about players anymore. The only reason they're still moving units is because they have 7 years of games from BEFORE they went full-retard behind them. But now they're making a brand new console, full-retard-ahead. I expect to be underwhelmed or feel downright screwed over.
Aiden Walker
What stupid shit?
Grayson Jackson
>There's no competition for the PS5 unless Microsoft wakes rhe fuck up and get some god damn exclusives for their next console.
This, I've said it before they should just focus on smashing out a bunch of interesting mid budget titles instead of only trying to make their "big" games stick despite most being shit, bring back old IPs too like crimson skies etc. Nintendo is irrelevant because they do their own thing and are currently successful anyway.
Josiah Diaz
>ignoring PCs and their 56% market share of home gaming platforms. More than double that of the PS4.
>assuming people wouldn't move to a PC instead of buying DilationStation5.