Is this it? Is this the extend of the battle system of FFXV? Hold one button to win? Fucking disappointing

Is this it? Is this the extend of the battle system of FFXV? Hold one button to win? Fucking disappointing.

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it's not like there was depth to final fantasy to begin with though

They also have the audacity to tease some FF shit at the sony direct later. After being let down by FFXV and KH3 I expect absolutely nothing but disappointment from this company.

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>nuFF is shit
In other news: grass grows, birds fly

Old FF is equally shit without muh nostalgia

It's really dependent on the game, I'd say. 4, 6 and 12 were good for their time and most of the games besides 8 before 12 are decent, if a bit aged.

Still cannot believe that they released this shit game.

The biggest disappointment in gaming right next to fucking Phantom Pain

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Did they really? Didn't it just release in pieces, only to have the last of them cancelled recently?

blame Tabata for wanting to pander to casuals. At least he can't ruin FFXVI with his shitty decisions because Square fired his ass

>Didn't it just release in pieces, only to have the last of them cancelled recently?
yeah but the cancelled story stuff was eventually sold back to us as a novel.

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who's that

KH3 is worse, do nothing to win lol

>KH3 is worse, do nothing to win lol

Only for one boss fight

No.

Fuck off KH sperg.

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No, the full game was always there and all dlc that takes place parallel to the main game released

they only canceled the non canon alt timeline bonus round dlc, all the initial planned dlc all released as intended during 2017 and 2018, and the prequel DLC in 2019 released too.

you can also direct your AI partners to perform an ability with the arrow buttons, but yeah, holding the O button turns on the "attacking AI" that performs actions for you.

Then you get the ability to dodge and teleport by pressing X occasionally.

>he criticizes FFXV
>HE MUST BE A KH FANBOY

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To be fair turnbased is too boring for your average gamer now. And nobody understood FF12.

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>birds fly
No they don't you fucking liar.

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>has to post a webm where he intentionally doesn't use a healing item to revive himself in order to prove that the game is hard
This will never not be funny

Two actually, but yeah you have to actually decide to do that in KH. In XV there's just the awful battle system, no other options.

>that webm
how much one needs to suck at playing games to have no healing itens on fucking FFXV?

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That dude just lost 7k health to a Lv34 monster. He didn't even get put into a weakened state to use potions; he was killed instantly

Yeah the final boss lol

GET IN HERE BARRY

Yes, because coeurls have the death spell as a counterattack with nearly no prior indication that they're about to use it. Tabata can't into game design.

Oh god I remember those tiger things. I was raped by those things every goddamn time.

I hate insta kills.

why is it that kh3 addressed this issues by releasing a harder difficulty mode but xv never bothered to do something about it's item system being broken or even make a harder difficulty mode

FF12 plays itself, there is nothing to understand. If you're that bad just look up some gambits online and you're set for the rest of the game.

Pretty sure you can hold that button. The game for me was hold O when my health was high, hold X when it was low, and then use those partner attacks when the gauge filled.

Beat the entire game in like 14 hours. Didn't actually have a picture either so it used that default one at the end, kek.

>turn based is too boring
On what fucking universe?

seems like an improvement from 12, that game required a grand total of zero button presses, just hold the stick forward

Nobody understood gambits when it came out. It was completely new. Coding my characters was unironically more satisfying than anything ever done in a FF game.

FF12 was beautiful, it fixed endless repetition that JRPGs are known for.

as opposed to tapping x over and over to win?

Thanks for explaining that. I didn't know they could do this, and I thought it was crazy he insta died to such a low level monster.

>Nobody understood gambits when it came out.
>this is what zoomers actually believe

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Water isn't wet

>how much one needs to suck at playing games to have no healing itens on fucking FFXV?

He's sucking on purpose to try and prove a point

>but xv never bothered to do something about it's item system being broken or even make a harder difficulty mode
Comrades tried but the combat system was too broken to fix.

You can, but it makes battles extremely slow if you don't dodge, warp strike, or position yourself for blind-sides

I thought this was a Batman Arkam thread, but realized you pressed circle instead of triangle.

>a motherfucking DEATH spell
>he just crouches down like he's tired
Great game.

I am not a zoomer user. I was there. Gamefaqs was filled with angry people (gamers never change). For years FF12 was hated but people are now seeing the light.

If you think Gambit is "playing the game for you" but hitting x4 Slash fifty times in a row in FF7 is somehow engaging gameplay, you should probably think again.

>"Hmmmm, the combat in these FF games is easily broken and repetitive. Maybe Square should work on balancing their battle systems and encounters and figure out how to make them more engaging?"

>"Naaaah, just let the game play itself for me"

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>Is this it? Is this the extend of the battle system of DQXI? Repeatedly tap one button to win? Fucking disappointing.

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Funny thing is you could have just set up auto attack gambits and play the game like an early xenoblade game.

i cant believe barry is STILL defending this fucking game

>kh3 addressed this issues by releasing a harder difficulty mode
That solved nothing, the combat was never XV tier obviously but don't pretend getting one shotted offscreen more often made KH3 any better.

funny thing is you can ignore the main mechanic of every FF game and pretend it's difficult because you intentionally gimped yourself

I'm glad you didn't say "water is wet" because water is NOT wet. water makes something wet, but water itself is not wet. water is just water, a liquid substance consist of hydrogen and oxygen. if water meets another water, the water won't make the other water wet, they'd just be water.

How is it different from selecting the attack command every turn? It's the same shit

>don't pretend getting one shotted offscreen
From someone who did a crit level 1 run, this rarely ever happened to me

>FFXV is an absolute dumpster fire of shi-

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-t
it's a shit game, period

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not sure how this is impressive in any way

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No, there’s actual action game stuff(action cancel, just timing, positioning, etc.) but there’s just no reason to use any of that because Square gave people a crutch and they abused the fuck out of it.

The funny thing is, playing it optimally means actually do playing it like a turn based game(waiting for your attack).

>imagine thinking this is what good gameplay looks like

And brother? I hurt people.

Devs
>Hmm, we don’t want to alienate people who don’t play action games so we will give bad players certain crutches to make sure they can beat the game. Hopefully the better players will not abuse these crutches and play the game like how we meant for it to be played.
Players
>abuses the fuck out of the crutches and then complains that it’s too easy

Then the devs are retards

Sounds like you need to git gud.

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>play the game like how we meant for it to be played.
The game is still easy even if you don't spam potions or hold O. It makes no difference in the end

>the game isn't easy, just dont use the mechanics that make the game easy, lmao

The point is to be stylish, user. I can easily beat DMC by spamming the same basic combo on easy, but i don’t think that’s anything to brag about.

>handicapping yourself because devs made a retarded game
or i can play something good like sekiro

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Well, yeah, actually.

Choosing a difficulty and ignoring rating systems is not the same as skipping over mechanics

Based and Sekiropilled.

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>Sekiro
>Good
It would have been good if the combat wasn't shit

There is an old interview from way before the release of the game, where it was stated that they aimed to make the game playable with one button, because he had grown old and tired or something and didn't have the energy that he used to have when he was younger.

For a group that prides itself on being “hardcore”, you fuckers do like to take the easiest road possible when given the choice.

>FFI - DUDE JUST PLAY AS FOUR THIEVES
>FFII - DUDE JUST DON'T USE ALL THE BROKENLY OP SPELLS
>FFIII - DUDE JUST IGNORE THE JOB SYSTEM
>FFV - DUDE JUST IGNORE THE JOB SYSTEM
>FFVI- DUDE JUST NEVER USE ESPERS
>FVII - DUDE JUST DON'T USE MATERIA
>FFVIII - DUDE, JUST NEVER JUNCTION ANYTHING
>FFIX DUDE JUST IGNORE THE AUTO ABILITIES
>FFX DUDE JUST DON'T LEVEL UP

brilliant argument

This but unironically.

One would think that Barry would try to make new material after people have been consistently unimpressed by his webms for the past year. Maybe even he doesn't want to play the game again.

>The point is to be stylish
That sounds like an excuse that xv fans made up to justify the easy combat
>I can easily beat DMC by spamming the same basic combo on easy
See, that's a difference between actual games and XV. You can do that on easy in DMC sure but try it on harder difficulties, would you say it will still work?
But on XV, you can breeze through the game no matter you do. On either difficulty.

Or maybe your game just has options that are badly balanced

>would you say it will still work?

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>posts a webm on easy mode
Even the guy who recorded it called you out on your shit.

Cope.

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>hold stick to right or left side + hold O the webm

No shit, dipshit. No one is denying that the game is heavily skewed towards casual. All I’m saying is the people saying the combat system is basic are wrong.

Performing 4 distorted real impacts in a row is harder than finishing the entirety of XV kek

>this sandbag garbage is what DMCfags enjoy

Top kek. At least the enemies in FFXV actually fight back.

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>hold O and wiggle the analogue
>press triangle twice
DEEP GAMEPLAY MECHANICS

Cope.

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HOLD O AND SPAM POTIONS
I WIN

Are we still pretending that Sekiro has good combat? It's average at best

Press X to Jason has more depth than FFXV, Barry.

It kills me to know that Squeenix will give the 7 Remake some XV-ish combat

Game is dead on arrival

Still better than the combat the game originally had.

All these mechanics, yet holding O is enough to circumvent any hindrances in the game.

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Just from a quick glance I can already tell that most of the stuff listed on FFXV can be put under Dark Souls as well, but I guess that goes against shitpostingr shitposting

Based

Turn based / ATB is the peak of FF gameplay

>deleted
Sounds like you need to git gud at posting, bucko

It won't though. Why do people always spread the meme? Do they think there's only one way to make an ARPG? It doesn't even look like FFXV in any way

Bring back ATB.

ATB is literal fucking trash. FFX and III were FF at its peak.

You have more ways to approach an enemy in XV than any Souls has, you have far more combat variety too and there's more enemy variety. You can shoot in XV, you can switch to Prompto to vulnerable an enemy and shoot them, or use a charge attack on an enemy in XV either before or after a warpstrike, different weapons have different warpstrike like AOE warpstrikes or individual target ones, or multi hit warpstrikes etc. Plus there is less weapon types in any Souls game than XV, there are countless different weapon movesets for Noctis to use, plus the other three bros who all play different and unique from each other. Same with how attacking ebemies in the air works in those too, because of things like death drop/airsteps in XV you have much smoother targetting and zoning on enemies, Souls doesn't even have aerial combat.

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Based, redpilled, high IQ (read: >160).

Too bad the game is easy.

Is Barry self aware or is he just naturally braindead?

He honestly believes everything he types.

We're talking about FFXV, not Souls. Keep up.

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I chose to believe that he's just a dedicated shitposter because no one can actually be this obsessed and delusional.

Projared

Honestly I think the only old FF game that still holds up is 5 because of the job system still being more fun and rewarding than most JRPGs nowadays

See

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Why do the shitposters who say this never prove it

Post yourself beating omega or naglfar or MA-X angelus or Cor or Bahamut or Ifrit or level 120 aranea or Cerberus or the fierce or the rogue or the mystic or ravus or quetzcoatl or dread behemoth or nagarani or red giant or etc

Bazztek is mentally ill person, he really needs help.

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>Battles take place in a separate screen
>No environmental interactivity
>Characters can't move around the battlefield
>Spells can't be freely targeted anywhere on the battlefield

>Holds up

Jesus christ.

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1-3 (NES) isn't bad, just incredibly generic and bare bones in this day and age. 4-6 (SNES) were comfy and defined the franchise. 7-9 (PS1) is where FF peaked out. 10-12 (PS2) is the start of decline. 13x3 (PS3) is the dark age for FF. 14-15 (PS4) an improvement over Lightning trilogy but mostly mediocre, uninspiring and disappointing. Hopefully Square can make a comeback with PS5 FFs but we all know this company doesn't have any vision left.

>waste your time to defeat all these damage sponges!
First of all its boring, second - none of them are even slightly hard, except for Cor, which is only 'hard' because of limited healing options.

>more shitpost with no proof
yawn

The Lightning trilogy is head and shoulders above XV, Barry.

You (the player) get to choose how your party is built and functions, a feature that most JRPGs have forgot to include.
And when you don't include that key feature in an RPG, you're not the one really in control, you're just doing exactly what the devs make you do. Might as well be a VN.
One is a small sandbox that rewards you for thinking, the other is fancy simon-says.

seek help

>You (the player) get to choose how your party is built and functions
This is something present in practically every RPG. Games like Jagged Alliance 2 and Suikoden have over 70 characters to choose from and micromanage.

Move XV to C, IX to S, IV to A, XI to B, and the list is solid.

Hello Barry :)

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>Dodge which literally every game has

>Weapon names
>Summon names
those dont even describe mechanics what the fucking shit lmao are you for real

>Phoneposter

Sure, whatever. They're both shit.

Suikoden games have 108.

>FFXV is shi-

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>computerposter

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-t

for how long has this autist defended this pile of shit?

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You're not proving anything with this footage. This is literally worse than spamming Stinger in DMC and pretending that's good gameplay.

based poster

7 years at the very least

How the fuck has Barry not been permanently banned at this point?

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I picked up DQXI in a sale recently and I'm loving it, the Draconian mode is just hard enough to so as not be unfair. Just beat Slayer of Sands but had to go back and grind a few levels but he went down pretty easy after that.

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Jesus Christ.

>this is supposed to be impressive
You can do that just by spamming warp and holding O. Not exactly deep combat, Barry.

Remember how Bazztek would shitpost in KH 3 threads and would post KH 3 had no ending and then people called him a fucking retard and he tried so hard to say “b-Barry boogeyman” only for him to post the same exact shit on Twitter? How much of a fucking autist do you have to be?

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SE has been in the shitter since Enix got involved. It was better when it was Squaresoft. FFXI/FFXIV are the only good games produced after FFIX

Unfortunately, he wasn't wrong about KH3.

>no turn based separate screen battles
It's like you don't even like JRPGs.

No he’s wrong and retarded as usual. Saying KH 3 has no ending is just straight up wrong and retarded

>FFXV was well received
I have never seen a more deluded person in my life. It’s like he lives in a bubble and refuses to accept reality. What a fucking sad and pathetic sperg

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I finally bought it on sale a few days ago. I expected it to be shitty but nothing would have prepared me.
As soon as I played the tutorial, I wished to refund it. But I thought "no way, it's a big game, let's give it a chance". Biggest regret of my life.

It's not even a question of bad combat. Everything feels like a bug. You can't pick up items or talk to NPCs without letting the sticks go and stop on your tracks for several seconds. Loading times are unbelivable, it takes 5 minutes to start playing. The UI is all over the place, one minute the map is on the right stick, the minute after it's on select. NPCs don't even have specific dialogue. They will say "hey can you do something for me? thanks!" Then a quest starts. Feels randomly generated. The camera goes everywhere. Your characters will never shut up and repeat stupid comments as you walk in empty environnements.

>FFXV was well received
In what fucking universe?

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There is a whole universe inside his head. Dude is mentally ill

FFXV just makes me feel sad

It makes all of us sad, user.

GOIN DOWN

VPN

they're just trying to keep up with the times instead of being ahead of them like they were in the 90's

Same here. What could have been. Also, the speculation of Square incompetence is the reason why we never got Nomura's true vision is confirmed by a lead designer.

youtube.com/watch?v=klqbYl8_9s4

This hurts . Nomura was dealt a terrible hand because Square is so fucking retarded. The game went to shit the moment he was no longer in charge

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>Is this it? Is this the extend of the battle system of FFXV? Hold one button to win? Fucking disappointing.
As opposed to the complex and involved combat of past Final Fantasies?

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You can still do all that, though

>This hurts . Nomura was dealt a terrible hand because Square is so fucking retarded. The game went to shit the moment he was no longer in charge

>Nomura fanboy
KYS

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I remember being a freshman in college when Final Fantasy Versus XIII's first trailer was shown. I was ecstatic. It looked so fucking good. So upsetting seeing what it became.

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FF XV went to shit the moment Tabata took over and wanted to turn this masterpiece into a fucking camping and driving casual simulator

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And yet the game didn't turn into a masterpiece until Tabata took over.

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>FFXV
>masterpiece
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>masterpiece

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combat is entertaining to watch at first but all style and no substance gets old quick no matter how much style you can inject into it by wiggling the control stick
story started off okay but like EVERY final fantasy game, gets worse when the actual interesting characters are pushed aside for prophecies and destiny and gods and shit that doesn't have any character to it
the way the dlc was handled was fucking pathetic and more than enough of a justification to pirate it
the main story is good up until you leave to go to that water city place, kill a completely uninteresting boss, and get railroaded into a story nobody really cares about

Cope.

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What is there to cope about? Tabata got cut loose from Square, XV is considered a massive disappointment by fans, game is still incomplete, etc...

>Tabata
>Chad
Fucking kek

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Tabata left Square by his own volition and his opening his owns studio. The literal embodiment of a chad move.

It's not much of a difference really, considering older FFs you just mashed a button to win.

Why do people rag on FFXV for this, but excuse Nier Automata for doing the same thing?

because you play as a sexy robot waifu instead of a bunch of gays

>blaming Enix when it was Squaresoft that fucked up and had to bailed out by Enix
I'm sure Enix execs regret agreeing to the merger.

>being so insecure about your heterosexuality that you think close friends riding around in a car together is gay

Whatever helps you sleep at night, Barry.

You do know if you tap it, you do a deathblow which has stun and more damage right? Just imagine all the other shit you don't even know. This is why I doubt people who say this play video games.

>Open world game but the world is lifeless, dull and bland
>Invisible walls every fucking where and there is no climbing which makes exploration frustrating as hell
>Majority of the sidequests are literally fetch quest which gets boring super quick
>Hunts get stale super quick as well
>Magic is fucked up beyond belief. Magic is used like grenades which can damage you and your party. Better off not even using magic at all
>Summons are literally random
>Combat is brain dead. It's basically hold O with the occasional Warp Strike
>Literally can not die and there is no risk. Game literally stops for 10 seconds to allow you to fully heal yourself and the party.
>Story is an utter mess. Characters are undeveloped and when it starts to get interesting, it just fucking ends
>Anti climatic final boss fight
>Character development for Prompto, Ignis , Gladious AND THE FUCKING MAIN VILLIAN OF THE FUCKING GAME ARDYN is literally paid DLC
>Have to watch a CGI movie and an anime to even give a semi fuck about these characters which means the game did a piss poor job of establishing these characters on its own
>BORING

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He got fired lol

Tabata was fired?

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It was supposed to to be the greatest most kino RPG of all time but turned into one of the worst RPGs of this decade and possibly all time

That alone truly hurts. Well FF's shine has long gone rusted with XIII anyway. Other JRPGs have taken it's spotlight for critical reception this generation and last.

I think relatively few people who hated the game when it came out are "seeing the light". The game is 13 years old now, it has more to do with nostalgia and the fact that every FF since then has been worse.

yeah lol

>the worst RPGs of this decade and possibly all time
Sup.

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Nope sorry FFXV is worse

I think it was worded as him choosing to leave and pursue other things in life, but yeah, he was fired.

At least XV PRETENDS to be an RPG