>silencer reduces damage
Silencer reduces damage
Jacob Bennett
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Ayden Stewart
It kinda makes sense, since if you want a silencer to actually "silence" the gun you would need to use subsonic ammo, which has a lower velocity and thus would do less damage.
Jaxon Reyes
I actually don't have a problem with e-celeb threads
Julian Young
No. That's not how guns work, you're retarded.
Blake Ward
>a firecracker makes the same amount of noise as a bullet
Jayden Rogers
If a bullet moved faster it would still cause a massive shock to the body
A fast bullet might move so fast it interacts less, it cleanly exists or something.
Jaxon Harris
>silencer
Alexander Wright
Far Cry doesn't do this.
Michael Carter
>it's a "Yea Forums pretends to know anything about guns and bullets" episode
Austin Parker
moddern suppressors/silencers don't slow the velocity down
but back in the day the original ones did, hence the video game logic
if you want to be quieter then yes subsonic+suppressor is your best combo
Mason Rivera
That is my face everytime i see this in Siege for the past 3 years. But i guess that's how Ubi balance them.
Owen Sanchez
>loudener increases damage
Ryan Rodriguez
No one gives a fuck /k/ autist
Eli Turner
Not that guy, but that is exactly how guns work, what the fuck are you talking about? Silencers only work on subsonic ammo, otherwise you still hear the sound from the sonic boom the bullet makes (defeating the purpose of a silencer). Subsonic rounds have less penetration and do less damage on impact because less kinetic energy. Literally what the fuck are you talking about you goddamn noguns brainlet?
Isaiah Miller
>50 cal round to the head from a machinegun
>player lives
>50 cal round to the head from a sniper rifle
>player dies
Ryan Torres
>suppressor makes shooting quiet
Hudson Rogers
>silencer increases damage
Gabriel Anderson
Jayden Nelson
Suppressors are actually pretty loud.
Julian Carter
Depends on the cartridge and model of the gun/suppressor.
Juan Cruz
Juan White
>pull trigger
>gun goes bang
And with that, I have understood and summarised everything anyone needs to know about guns. Shut the fuck up autists.
Tyler Wood
>Loudener
American?
Levi Ross
Silencers were designed so that firing your gun does not harm your ear drums, it was not designed to reduce the noise your guns make in stealth missions
Grayson Collins
You don't need to run subsonic to use a can
Parker Nguyen
>Idk what kinetic energy is
Aiden Peterson
You do if you want to actually stealthily kill people. Even with a subsonic and a can you might make too much noise.
Ian Moore
dumb noguns weeb
James Morales
>boer war camps are concentration camps.
Thomas Hughes
i use a loudener, and bullet velocity does increase, albeit marginally
Alexander Gutierrez
>Berserkers use double bitted axes instead of sword and shield.
Josiah Perez
These are my favorite off-topic threads on Yea Forums though, because they expose the userbase for the brainlets with inflated sense of self-importance that they are
Henry Thomas
Can anyone explain why they don't just make subsonic guns with massive caliber bullets so you can have stealthy shots with enough foot poundage to take someone's arm clean off?
Isaiah Stewart
They do
Josiah Anderson
>9mm
>metal object coming at 380.0 m/s
>9mm subsonic
>metal object coming at 298.0 m/s
>all this vs. flesh
>less damage
Technically yes, but also nah.
Noah Watson
it also makes shooters much more difficult to locate
Nathan Rogers
How?
Just look at the impact of the bullet and you can guess the trajectory from there with a pen and a sextant
Xavier Thomas
How did that go in?
Brayden Carter
It does, or more accurately the subsonic ammo does less damage, particularly to armour.
John Perez
clip and magazine is the same
now go fuck yourself
Jaxson Morris
Garands are literal death traps
Benjamin Hughes
Adrian Allen
Supersonic rounds can pierce level III body armor. Subsonic cannot.
Also, you're looking at a kinetic energy difference of
KE = 1/2 mv^2.
Mass is constant, so it's a difference of 298^2 / 380^2, or roughly 61.5% of the kinetic energy of the supersonic ammo.
Blake Roberts
Most pistol caliber ammunition is already sub-sonic genius.
Samuel Phillips
Let me just pull out my pen and sextant in a combat situation
Owen Richardson
Are you a retard?
Nathan Watson
nice try NIGGER.
Tyler Jones
No they're not, a clip is used to load a magazine, the clip is what keeps the rounds together, the magazine is what loads the rounds into the chamber.
Ian Hall
Imagine being THIS nogunz
William Perry
>you can recover your own used bullets from enemies killed
Brayden Price
>Pull pen
>Stick in hole
>You now know where the shot came from
Combat situations aren't INTENSE REACT NOW OR DIE
Cameron Jenkins
Fair enough.
Still no difference in how much you'll die without that body armor.
Aiden Watson
>near fib levels
CURSE YOU NATURE
Dylan Howard
he do it on purpose just to annoy his try hard dad
John Ramirez
9mm isn't
Henry Foster
It's designer 'balance' trade off. Get the power fantasy satisfaction of being a stealth operative and enemies around you won't react to your shots. But do 10% less damage. I hate it but I understand the dev logic.
Colton Sullivan
He's retarded user, even .22lr isn't subsonic.
Hudson Price
>9mm round from this pistol does more damage than a 9mm round from that pistol
Nicholas Ward
>.308 automatic rifle
>43 damage per shot
>other .308 rifle
>38 damage per shot
>5.56 rifle
>48 damage per shot
>Other 5.56 rifle
>45 damage per shot
>44 magnum autoloader
>53 damage
>.357 revolver
>59 damage
>other .357 revolver
>57 damage
>MP5, MP5k 9mm
>27 and 29 damage per shot
>MP5 Suppressed
>30 damage
>Taurus M9 clone 9mm
>39 damage
>Same gun but with a suppressor and subsonic ammo
>60 flat damage all ranges
>9x18 Makarov pistol
>61 damage per shot
>Shoot someone with a .308 semi auto
>3 shot kill
>.308 bolt action and scope
>Instant death from grazing their toe
David Parker
In terms of practicality, a suppressed firearm should only do less damage against bad guys wearing body armor
Connor Robinson
>9mm C1 SMG
>46 damage
>UMP 45
>38 damage
Dylan Smith
Real life would be a horribly balanced video game. Imagine spraying your bullets and landing 0.01% of them to get a kill. That's real life. -
Matthew Reyes
So like Escape From Tarkov
Austin Diaz
>friends play CoD every day
>they rage, but play it daily
>join party to laugh at them
>mfw last night friend goes on a 10 rant about silencers
>"if you can't handle recoil go fuck yourself"
i just stood quiet. i hate these people.
Jonathan King
There's so much bullshit in that series how is silencers the thing that pisses him off?
Jaxon Cook
It wouldn't do less damage. Just less penetrative velocity. It's range also would be reduce.
Ayden Reed
Most modern silencers, more correctly known as "suppressors," in fact do not affect a bullet's velocity in any significant way. Early suppressors contained a rubber gasket (called a wipe) that would briefly be in contact with the bullet, and the idea is that the resulting friction would slow the gun bullet down a bit. But modern suppressors don't have such wipes anymore, and they are manufactured with high accuracy such that they do not influence the bullet's trajectory in any way.
Brayden Gomez
Well barrel length can change a few things
John Peterson
Using a suppressor with supersonic ammo isn't going to do much to reduce the sound, the bullet breaking the sound barrier is what makes it so loud.
Jack Turner
Sub-sonic rounds however are used with suppressors, which do have lower velocity. That doesn't necessarily equate to less damage, but less kinetic energy
Adrian Mitchell
The point is, it is not the suppressor that affects the bullet, but the type of round being used.
Charles Foster
Not inherently. Suppressors are not strictly and solely for sub-sonic rounds, that's just what's efficient to lower your sound profile - but it doesn't matter what round type you're using, that thing's gonna "fwip" real loudly, people in the imminent area are gonna hear it unless you're using a handgun with subsonic and in an area where sound doesn't propagate well.
Suppressors are less about being quiet sneaky like and more about lessening the readability of your position by hiding muzzle flash and squashing the spread of the noise from firing to make it harder to figure the location.
Hunter Torres
kek
Jayden Allen
lmfao
Jose Stewart
>does less damage
>still kills in one hit from head shot
whats it even matter
Carson Barnes
Isaiah King
These images make me giggle like an idiot without fail. One of my favourite internet jokes in a long time. Post Worraz.
Nathan Lewis
thoroughly enjoyed until that faggot AJ started laughing. honestly the most horrible laugh. i hope he dies. he ruins laughter.
Justin Morales
No, most are supersonic in standard loading.
Oliver Lopez
When do we get this addon in a game?
Charles Price
Holy shit far cry is the worst for this sort of crap.
>.50 caliber rifle shot to the chest of “”””armored”””” enemy takes 2-3 hits
>lightly thrown shovel kills same enemy in 1 hit
What the fuck. Seriously, the shovel was the strongest weapon in far cry 5.
Charles Ramirez
It depends on the round, .45 is subsonic on a standard loading
Ayden Flores
Imagine being this willfully ignorant in life and also being proud of it lmao
Lucas Lewis
>He can't separate nonsensical game mechanics put in place for the sake of variety from real life
Nicholas Murphy
How many games actually do this? In most games I can think of it just increases damage dropoff, not the damage itself
Nathaniel Campbell
Obviously, but I did say if you want it to be "silent" you do
Hudson Gomez
Fallout 4.
Owen Garcia
I hope most of these comments are "merely pretending".
Isaac Scott
>get hit by 4 9x39mm rounds
>lives
>get hits by 2 rounds from the same gun with wood furniture
>dies
Nolan Peterson
is there a game that does suppressors better?
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Brody Williams
No.
Ryder Cox
>spears are the best weapon in the game
Adam Anderson
that is correct
Angel Gray
>wood furniture
Austin Cooper
>Silenced weapon has bonus critical damage
Carter Sanchez
In handgun calibers it’s not that much of a difference but for rifles it’s general a really big difference, especially in smaller rounds like 5.56. You’re basically making it 22lr levels of energy... still deadly but significantly less capable of a round.
Mason Russell
>poison bullets
Michael Wilson
>put vodka on bullet
>incendiary ammo
Samuel Richardson
Yep, 45acp is subsonic. Most meaning the other standard semiautomatic handgun calibers - 9mm, .40, 357 sig, 38 super
Alexander Nelson
Didn't yet see the video, but looking at the thumbnail, do the madmen actually somehow do it?
Luke Sanders
Name one (1) game that does that.
Nicholas Hughes
do arrows count as bullets?
Cooper Price
No.
Tyler Cook
>Tactical Clothes
>Wearing a $40.000 Divers Watch
Justin Carter
you wannabe /k/ losers are so cringe
Angel Walker
>putting the bayonett on the handle at the front end of the gun
why?
Hunter Sanders
>do arrows count as bullets?
Thomas Powell
do you even blind?
Parker Roberts
No seriously, what the fuck
Jaxson Reed
>not suiting up
Jeremiah Morris
Mental warfare. If someone's wearing a 40 grand watch on a battlefield they clearly know what they're doing to not worry about it.
Joseph Fisher
>Put a red dot on your rifle
>Allies comment on how stupid your rifle's paint job looks now
Andrew Cruz
>Being such a pussy you want your gun to be quieter.
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Henry Gonzalez
man his life must be awesome
Ryan Wood
That fud is/was so annoying, especially in that video. Imagine being such a try hard loser that you make going to the range with a m1 Garand an absolute chore.
Jonathan Rodriguez
>Shoot your enemies with FMJ rounds
>They're now tougher because they have metal jacket armor
Brayden Ward
What the fuck is wrong with watch fags?
Michael Morgan
>He didn't spend 100k on a watch that's less reliable than a six dollar casio
EL OH EL
Jonathan Morales
Hey /k/. I'm applying RPK furniture onto my Vepr-12. Should I go ahead and add an AKM dongle for the handguard?
Elijah Walker
nothing beats the shovel
Dylan Diaz
>berserkers (literally bear shirters) don't wear bear skins
Cooper Davis
Video games are better at this than other media.
Nolan Stewart