Best game from fromsoft. Prove me wrong

Best game from fromsoft. Prove me wrong.
>Atmosphere is 10/10
>Best one lore-wise
>Enough item variety to make builds/ narrowed enough so cheese tactics are minimized
>Agressive and fast paced combat is an OBLIGATION
>Bosses and locations are FUCKING kino
> Best aestethic.
Been revisiting bloodborne after sekiro. Why is this even a contest? Does someone prefer sekiro over this masterpiece?

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The only people who prefer other games in the series over BB are the ones who have never played BB

>chromatic aberration
>Uneven frame pacing and poor performance
>Second half of the game diminishes in quality significantly
>Build variety is garbage
>DLC mandatory because of how many issues it fixes
Haven't played Sekiro yet but Bloodborne is hardly a masterpiece.

Pretentious atmosphere

OFFICIAL Yea Forums ranking is

bb>sekiro>ds1>ds2=ds3

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I raise Dark Souls 1

Average area is the same as bloodborne in quality but the best if DS1 beats the best of BB

Areas are a bit more threatening than BB

Wider range in weapons and build diversity, although BB did it’s thing well and I wouldn’t change it

Probably the strongest overarching story, although BB had more kino moments

Nothing in BB is unsettling to look at as the Primordial Serpents (idk if this is a plus)

There is no way that Yea Forums, in all its infinite bitching, puts Sekiro above DS1

We’ve had too many Sekiro cry threads

Its good yeah but forever tainted by low FPS.
Also personally I am not a fan of the upgrade system and that the weapons are all samey.

Going to start a new run today though, either Bloodtinge or Arcane as I never tried them. Arcane seems more versatile though with having gems that change weapons to scale of it (if i remember right)

1) The loading screens are unforgivable. If Bloodborne was a Sonic game, Arin would bitch and moan about every. Single. One and we all know it. But since it's a game he likes, it gets a free pass. He even pontificated about how it could be seen as a good thing. Smfh.

2) There's no soul, no creative vision at all. It's the most cliched, uninspired, insipid sort of "blood is cool" game world imaginable. It feels like the thematics of this game were decided upon by a ten year old.

3) The experience system is absolutely unnecessary. There's no reason a hack-and-slash game of this sort should have an experience point system. All it does is pad out the game length and offer a false sense of progress and accomplishment. Anything locked away by experience could've been a simple pickup or upgrade. I'm especially disappointed in Arin for not complaining about this, given how much he hates meaningless RPG elements thrust into non-RPG games for no good reason.

4) Forced farming. Do I need to say more? It's an inexcusable, terrible design choice that again adds fake length and padding to the game. If Bloodborne were an honest game, the Game Grumps playthrough would've lasted about twelve episodes, not 76.

5) Having to constantly. Constantly. Constantly pop in and out of Hunters Dream. This might be semi-excusable if the loading times weren't atrocious, but they are so it's not. I get that there's a thematic reason for you going into and out of the Hunters Dream, but from a gameplay standpoint there's absolutely no reason whatsoever that Lanterns shouldn't've just been surrounded by the Hunters Dream NPCs. It's awful game design to make you actually load into another part of the game just to talk to an NPC to level up or buy stuff or refill your health. Which brings me to...

Sekiro is better, challenge curve is consistent. Unlike BB where is tanks 1/3 into the game and doesn't rise back up until the DLC was released

6) Low on Health and Blood Vials while you're grinding and grinding and grinding in this padded-out, fake-progress game? Hope you like loading screens! Again, I get the thematic idea behind the Hunters Dream and in a novel or a movie it'd be a neat idea. Heck, it's a neat idea in the game, but only thematically. From a gameplay standpoint, again, it's inexcusable that in a game so focused on grinding for drops that you'd have to six through two minute-long loading screens to refill your health and repopulate the mobs in the area. And people complain about auto-refilling health.

7) The random drops themselves deserve their own bullet point. Their own Silver Bullet point, you might say. Inexcusable, terrible game design, padding, enough said. This game should honestly be called Farming Simulator 2015. It's bad enough that it almost feels like Bloodborne is one of those shitty freemium iPhone games. And speaking of that...

8) The clusterfuck that is Insight. Basically, Insight is just a cheesy, money-grabbing ploy to force you to sign up for Playstation+ so you can bug other people to help you farm. And of course, make your friends buy Bloodborne to play with you and help you farm. It has absolutely no value from a game design standpoint, it's pure Modern Gaming bullshit. This one I'm especially ticked off that people aren't pointing out for the bullshit that it is. I mean, Insight is spent even if the summoning is unsuccessful? So based on pure random chance, you could lose too much Insight and be forced to farm! I can already see Bloodborne defenders lining up to say "optional this, optional that, you don't have to farm" but yes you absolutely do! Farming is a fundamental, required.

Just spend a couple blood echoes on vials and bullets lol they're dirt cheap

>>chromatic aberration
unironically love this. i also play the silent hill games on PS2 instead of PC. aesthetic > everything else.

What's insight even good for? I only played the game offline so I only spent it on NPC summons.

It's a much higher quality game than the other From games because Sony co-developed it. Unironically peak vidya kino.

I think it damages the aesthetic. It's just a load of visual noise - I don't know why you'd deliberately imitate defects in physical recording equipment.
It'd cost absolutely nothing to make this a feature you can disable, but because this is a console game we're not allowed.

Pretty much. I honestly didn't find sekiro all that distant from the souls formula everyone wanted me to believe. It really didn't warrant removing the RPG elements even with the slight upgrade to the combat. Last time I really loved a FROM game was BB. Looks like I've gotten the souls fatigue.

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Compare these flaws to say Dark Souls 1:
>dogshit bosses.
>dogshit enemies.
>a third of the levels are unfinished.
>midi OST (trash).
>easy.
>worst movesets in the series.
>shields, magic, and ranged are all broken.
>tons of poorly designed mechanics, like kick being completely useless.

You're such a raging faggot I can't even comprehend what I'm looking at. When those scientists set out to photograph a black hole they should've just snapped a polaroid picture of your stretched out asshole. You really expected people to read all of that shit, after referencing a gay ass e-celeb and using "smfh" unironically in your first bullet point? Why are you even using bullet points? Use greentext. That's why greentext exists. This is not reddit you fucker. "We all know it." Who is this we? I don't think you're even the same species as me, pal, don't try to put words in my mouth. God. Fuck you.

Dark Souls 1 is completely fucked. Anyone that nonironically elects it as best-in-series is showing a huge nostalgia bias.

Based bait

>still only playable on PS4 at sub 25 fps
PC port when?

When they remaster it on PS5 in 3 years

Orbital emulator is making progress, but I don't think we'll ever get a port.

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Oh shit this nigga gets it

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Bloodborne is co-developed and funded by Sony. It's never going to get ported to a non-Sony platform.

>I think it damages the aesthetic.
you are retarded then.

>Bloodborne is co-developed and funded by Sony
So was pic related, yet it still got a port.
Never say never.

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If we're talking objectively, BB is probably their best game, but I still prefer Dark Souls 1.
The interconnected world, atmosphere, lore, and overall feel of the game is just amazing. Don't call me a nostalgiafag, I just played the game last year and I recognize it's flaws, but damn do I love it to death.
It's just special. BB recaptured some of that, which I wasn't expecting, but it still falls short.
Love them both though.

You're a nostalgiafag, but it least you know you are. Demon's is my favorite game and the one I played first, but BB is the best easily.

Whos the semen beast

It's better than Sekiro in most aspects but it was also shit before it got it's DLC, which everyone seems to have forgotten. Looking forward to seeing what Sekiro's DLC is like.

You have bad taste in women user.

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Most of Yea Forums would prefer to marry a cartoon to a real woman their brain is so scrambled.

W-wasnt very nice user

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>nigger not understanding what an attractive white female looks like

Felt more like I was mashing buttons than learning patterns to be honest. Didn't bother finishing it.

I do, she's not

No hard feeling user just watching out for you

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Bloodborne lack some variety.
I honestly enjoy DaS3 the most.
But Sekiro is extremely good too. It just lacks the replayability the other games have for me.

Based post

>30 fps

>horrible frame pacing

>ugly color pallette. Everything is purple, red or black

>short game

Not really, Sekiro beats it in production value.

Insight store i guess.
It kind of hurts you to have a lot.

I can disprove that with three letters. OST. You probably played Sekiro on PC, which is why you think it had higher production value. Literally the only negative against BB is the console it is limited to.

>2015 game
>Asking more than 30 FPS in such a detailed ambient
Seethe more you idiot, surely the same fucking map revisited 3 times in sekiro demands a lot of hardware

Sekiro OST aint memorable but it also doesnt stand in the way, it does its job so i cant take points out of the game for it.
But the game has verticality, underwater gameplay, a lot of variety and attention to asset placement and a bunch of difderent animations from bosses to sekiro himself. It's also a very long game. I was very impressed the game kept offering me new maps.

>Thinking BB achieving sub 30 fps in 2015 is impressive
Are you for real?

questlines are shite and pvp was a mediocre tacked-on mess.
Chalice dungeons are a sham because they aren't random and the final unused moon presence phase 3 in the mud lake would've been kino.
9/10 because miyazaki slipped up only slightly.

ALSO HE FUCKING KEKED US OUT OF GUIDANCE 3 WTF MIYAZAKI

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>1
They were patched in latest update.
>2
(You)
I daresay Miyazaki put the largest amount of soul into bloodborne with the only downfall being a few mediocre bosses (One Reborn, Amelia not being a waifu/cuter, Wet Nurse being cool in design but shit in combat)

>the weapons are all samey
I found this more of a problem in ds3 and 1 than Bloodborne.

Don't mind me, just the best FromSoft game.

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>weapons are all samey
Youre trolling, right? Weapon variety in BB is MUCH better than in any of the Souls games, every weapon is unique and has two movesets, as opposed to weapon variety in DS, where you have 15 longswords with same moveset of hwich some are 10% longer or do 14% more dmg.

The only problem with weapons in BB is that you get a lot of them too late in the game, and theres too many obstacles on the way, and by the time you do get the weapon the main bulk of the game is done, and youve got only the next playthrough to look forward to.

As much as I love AC games, it's not better than DaS1.

STORY TAHT'S ALL JUST A DREAM

read Polaris, retard
it's not a dream in the traditional sense

>shitiro over Souls
absolute garbage taste you redditarian.

?
The only discussion is whether its BB>Sekiro or Sekiro>BB, everyone agrees both are far superior to all Souls

the aesthetics is shit compared to dark souls as well as level design. dark souls still is king.

>everyone
Nope.
BB is not that Magnum Opus.
das3, sekiro, das, des, bb. All could take the first spot though since theyre all quality games and it all comes down to what flaws can you excuse in them.

BB vs Sekiro

World Design, BB
OST, BB
Atmosphere, BB
Characters, BB
Gameplay, both appeal to different audiences. BB is traditional souls while sekiro is more like MGR with focus on fast pace parries.
Replay value, BB.

Winner BB

Zero build variety and chalice dungeons are trash. The only people who say it’s better than the other games are snoybois.

it's ok pcpoor

>Agressive and fast paced combat is an OBLIGATION
What does this fucking mean? You're rewarded for fast and aggressive play just like Sekiro. Why would you not play aggressive? And what does not playing fast and aggressively even mean? Do you just press the buttons slower?

>Enough item variety to make builds/ narrowed enough so cheese tactics are minimized
BB is Cheese: The Game. The way the parrying system works pretty much allows you to cheese any difficult boss that isn't Ludwig. It practically ruins almost all of the best encounters in the game unless you purposely ignore it. There's no risk to it and the window is even more generous than the parries in fucking Sekiro which makes no sense. Also R1 spam obliterates any normal enemy due to none of them have hyperarmor.

>Bosses and locations are FUCKING kino
The bosses are pretty garbage for the most part besides the DLC

>Zero build variety
The "build variety" in souls is basically what weapon you're gonna use for the run, I'd say BB has a bigger build variety because every weapon is unique where in souls you've got 50 long swords that all play the same but have different texture

>Zero build variety
Imagine being this retarded

BB was a solid 7/10 before DLC, 8.5/10 after it.
Sekiro is a solid 8.5/10 now, I expect it to be 9.5 after dlc.

Incorrect. Have the game and a PS4, the game is just inferior. Try again.

i can post stuff on the internet too.

>say that BB isn't a flawless masterpiece
>droves of Sony fanboys swarm me and claim I have never played it
Why are they like this? The only other fanbase that does shit like this are BotW fags.

Why did Bloodborne fanboys got so insecure after Sekiro came out?
You dont see DaSfags comparing their game to Sekirolike this.
You know you can enjoy both games, right?

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Having a higher insight number will let you see more eldritch stuff
you can see some invisible creatures at high insight

this but the other way round

Bb is not a bad game but def overrated. I disliked the world since every location looks the same, its dark af and I can't see shit, its not like it a design choice, they just made it so you don't see shitty graphics. Most of the bosses are shit too. It is also the shortest and most linear of all their games. Beat it in 3 days and was like wtf thats it? Still a good 8,75/10 game

SL had a more varied campaign and the music is kinda shit, but LR easily blows it away in terms of gameplay, parts, difficulty etc. LRP Zinaida is just unfair garbage though.
Better than Soulshit for sure.

Leveling is an entirely pointless mechanic in BB because there are no sets, weapons, or spells that require building building your character around them. There is zero variety or reason to spec anything.

Imagine having a corporate dick so far down your throat that you think people who criticize exclusives in any way just lie about playing them. Victim complex is a real thing.

Because they have to justify their PS4 purchase somehow.

>all this childish nitpicking
Meanwhile, it has the
>most believable world
>greatest sense of adventure
>most memorable NPCs
>most memorable bosses
>most soul

Go on and prove me wrong, shitter.

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>Leveling is an entirely pointless mechanic in BB
Fucking retard, there's weapons that require dedicated stat levelling, like bloodtinge and arcane.

PS4 is a 6 year old console. I doubt anyone has a problem with buying one.

user, please. Dark Souls has
>Fists
>Daggers
>Straight swords
>Long swords
>Greatswords
>Ultra greatswords
>Curved swords
>Curved greatswords
>Hammers
>Greathammers
>spears
>Halberds
>Sorcery
>Miracles
>Hexes
>Pyromacy
>Weapon + shield
>Weapon + crossbow
>Two handing
>Dual wielding
>Any weapon class + any magic school
>Boss weapons that that always have so me sort of unique gimmick
All of the day bro

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some people would argue that the second half of Dark Souls drops even worse

>Weapon + crossbow
This sounds fun, gonna start a new DS3 run

Each of those have two scaling weapons and you can throw your parry on Bloodtinge I guess. See for a real list.

I swear this is a very well crafted bait

Insight is required to summon buddies and engage in online.
Insight also allows you buy stuff from fountains and see the truth

Also to the first guy, when CoOp fails you get that spent insight back

bb>des>ds>sekiro>

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