Why is everyone so damn excited over this? Even the kickstarter is 6-7 times over the initial goal.
StudioFOW are the definition of hit and miss, heavily leaning on the miss. Seriously, they put out 20ish SFM porn videos and maybe 3 are decent. I can understand normalfag miscreants pledging because of the kickstarter video and page presentation, but even Yea Forums and some other boards regularly have 500 reply threads about this game. Shouldn't we know better?
Word of mouth, chance to piss off the SJW and morale police.
Carter Davis
They're really not
Henry Thompson
If it sells big, even if its shit, could it be the start of higher budget porn games?
Aaron Fisher
The game filed their trademark first, he was using the brand without legalizing it.
He is fucked.
Leo Brown
There is such thing as Trademark Protection by Use, and along with the fact he has proof they knew about him (to the point of having an opinion on his work) before coming out with the name isn't going to look good for them.
Hudson Ward
that doesn't fucking matter if they trademarked the name before he did. He literally filed for it last fucking week
Mason Price
Meaningless. Unless Pool is branching his brand out into porn games, he doesn't have a leg to stand on
Caleb Gray
There is no proof they knew about him, there are other games using the same name and the word wasn't made by him. It means to subvert.
Also if he valued the brand he should of trademarked it, he had no excuse because his main channel is making shit loads of cash.
Also who the fuck cares anyway, the lawyers can sort it out.
Gavin Brooks
>There is no proof they knew about him, Yes there is, he talked to them directly before the announcement of the game and they referred to him as "That guy who makes Jorden Peterson videos"
Why are you discussing this when you clearly don't have any info?
Eli Williams
I'm excited they decided to make it play like xcom. I have a boner for that type of game anyway.
Jose Roberts
Trademarks only apply within the media, for Protection by Use to apply, he would have to be creating or have created a video game with the trademark. For example, I could write a book called Subverse, and trademark Subverse for the purposes of printed media, and that would be uncontestable by the game devs as it is legally considered a completely different trademark.
Asher Johnson
i have only one complain - all girls looks like reskins for single character
Michael Jackson
it's the same as the fortnite dance lawsuits you can't copyright a dance move unless you're copyrighting the entire routine, else it's like copyrighting a word in a sentence
..which is why you can't copyright Subverse, as it's a word. Copyrighting it would mean you could be sued for using it in a sentence, so it's not allowed.
Robert Adams
This isn't about copyright though, it's about trademark
Charles Garcia
>700.000$ and it's still rising I didn't expect that.
Austin Wright
understood have a great day
Aiden Torres
I would like to have porn games that have good gameplay.
Chase Long
It'll probably end up being shit, but the entry level price of ten quid is cheap enough to be worth a punt in case they can land it.
I mean the basic concept and art seems pretty great. If its not, well I've spent more on previously totally disappointing games over the years.
Christian Moore
On the visual front, there are free games on /aco/ that look way better than this. On the gameplay front, there's no way this approaches the autismal detail of some japanese porn games.
All the extra money is probably from furries who wanna see the girls get fucked by dogs and horses because these geniuses put creating your own sex scenes as one of the pledge tiers.
Oliver Ward
As much as I think Pool's in the right, he doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. He fucked up, and needs to cut his losses by switching to 'Timcast' or something.
Landon Robinson
He talked to them as TIM POOL, also they checked his videos after he complained and you are going fully of what tim pool said anyway.
Anthony Morgan
>As much as I think Pool's in the right Why?
James Gomez
I doubt he'd say it if he didn't have the messages saved
Grayson Cooper
I wish they would add a fake loli. At least the cat girl is somewhat flat.
How did Sargon get confused with a porn kickstarter and his shitty website and this is the same guy whose running for EU Parliament. I know he's a boomer but come on.
>Sargon being an absolute retard is going to get Pool into a dumb legal battle he can't hope to win Amazing
Bentley Morris
sargon knows what it is, he has talked to arch a few times about it.
he was pulling his dick but tim has no sense of humor.
Tyler Davis
it's all about how the sex is portrayed, your science officer being a horny slut getting gaped by aliens? Whatever it's sex in a porn game Your science officer acting like she's into your character and then going off to get gaped while you're told you are powerless to stop it and can only watch? Cuck shit Same goes for the robot waifu, she sucks and fucks old men for money? Cliche scenario for a porn game She acts like she's interested in your character and the goes off to get gang banged for money while your character is literally masturbating in a corner while it happens? Cuck shit And all the cuck shit is how the game makers have been presenting the work so far
Fuck you degenerate scum, Tim even if he fucked up needs the power of the word subverse more to fight back against the Jewish media overlords, cant you incels see this is what those Jews want, to topple Tim just as his power is growing.
Colton Lopez
Tim "I asked a multi million dollar company for a comment on my nothing youtube channel and they didn't reply because they think I'm a porn game" pool.
Thomas Cruz
>incel you need to go back and take their buzzword with you
Parker Cruz
What's this got to do with what I posted?
Juan Lee
>Yea Forums is now shilling cuckshit
I honestly thought this place couldn't go any lower. At the very least it used to be unanimous in calling NTR the garbage fetish it is.
The Devs literally talk about how they're "breaking new ground" by having the girls fuck other guys, and you're lining up tp give them your money. Fuck that.
I'm definitely interested, but StudioFOW is pretty fucking overrated.
Mason Butler
Then fucking pirate it when it comes out.
Kayden Miller
>LOL BOOBS i thought this was the video games board
Nicholas Ramirez
>chance to piss off the SJW and morale police. >Paying for a cuck fetish game to piss off SJWs
Oh shit nigga, what are you doing!?
Charles Thomas
I legitimately want to see the girls railed by big alien monsters. That's the only shit StudioFOW does well. I won't be playing the game to romance them
Andrew Wood
why aren't there any porn games based around robots
>Game literally tells you to play as "your" character >All the taglines and marketing are about building a harem of waifus >It's literally NTR garbage
Shill your shit fetish somewhere else
Luke Myers
people who are not pedos like you user.
Cooper Watson
Money laundering.
Jaxson Gonzalez
Ok, and?
Thomas Hughes
StudioFOW are bed shitters indeed, but that game can bring enough attention to the weg market to push for more and better productions. Right now the weg scene is not even an indie market, just a bunch of amateurs on Patreon.
Camden Young
>there's nothing wrong with cuck shit
Neo-Yea Forums
Angel Hall
Shit that's rad. The adult game industry is still fresh and this is a step in the right direction
Isaac Howard
>implying incel doesn't more than appy in this situation of a virgin losers getting in the way of the reinsurance of a honest media
literally have sex.
Jonathan Turner
It just wouldn't make any sense in a situation as serious as this and something so easily and quickly proven wrong.
Aiden Gray
It's not cuck shit if you're not a self-inserting loser
Tyler Cruz
This is all I need to know about this shit. How about fucking no. Fuck the U.K. Fuck the British "people", I ain't giving them a single fucking time.
>not liking unrealistically huge cow tits makes you a pedo Settle down there, Australia
Nathaniel Green
So he knows it had nothing to do with baldie
Brody Diaz
>Defending cuck shit >Game literally advertisers itself as a harem game
Pathetic.
Matthew Roberts
Not legally, mind, just morally. He's had his channel has been promoting the brand since 2015, and has been pushing and making notable content for it since about this time last year. Not to mention his 'alternative news' platform is far closer in nature than 'sci fi hentai' is to the meaning of the word. It sets a rather gross precedence if someone with the bigger stick can just walk along and just take an establishing brand for themselves. It'd be like if Activision just come along made a game called "Lisa" or "Dwarf Fortress", and just out-lawayer the competition.
Christian James
>so damn excited No? Not even? Its just a 3D porn game with no premade horrible DAZ goblina models and made by a group of people with a semblance of experience, that automatically makes it better than 99% of shitty patreon western porn games right now.
Mildly interested is the most anyone gets for it. Some mildly interested people just have money to spare. Patreonbux for said horrible western porn games proves that.
Stop this shit. I'm tired tired tired of pretending the EU peons are the west. They are not part of the west. They are part of the east. They are attached to fucking africa. Do you consider zimbabawe part of the west? No. You fucking do not. Stop this shit.
Jordan Lee
I'm mostly interested because I have an incredible fetish for robo girls.
stop self inserting into games you low iq monkey It's not real
Asher Jenkins
>It'd be like if Activision just come along made a game called "Lisa" or "Dwarf Fortress", and just out-lawayer the competition. But that's completely different you retard. That would be Activision fucking with other GAMES Subverse the news site is not a video game
Elijah Ross
I wish they did more stuff based on existing properties instead of their BS original characters I don't give a fuck about.
Easton Collins
Why do people turn into fanboys of something?
You guys need to get laid or something, tim pool or the subverse game aren't your daddies. Get on with your life and let the lawyers sort it out, what the fuck is wrong with you dick riding homosexuals.
Christian Allen
>buying a porn game user, where do you think we are?
Parker James
What will the 1 million dollar stretch goal be?
Noah Evans
The vast majority of their videos are with existing properties. What the fuck are you talking about?
Landon Anderson
>can sucker people into giving them well over half a million dollars >can't get themselves 60k followers on twitter I just wanna know who gets fucked in Project Snow.
Elijah Garcia
I want to see beauties ruined my monsters, if the game succeeds in that who cares?
Okay? Lionsgate then - the principle doesn't change.
Matthew Nguyen
It would be closer to LiSA complaining about Lisa: The Painful because she totally planned on making a game at some point.
Cooper Jackson
Except it does. There would be literally nothing wrong with someone making a movie called Lisa Dwarf Fortress. You don't just get to take a word or two from the english language and own it forever
Probably going to be cuck garbage and dog fucking. However, the money of the type of retarded people who crowd fund will all be worth it if I can get another soundbite as funny as KROGAN COCK - SO GOOD.
>getting mad at a fictional girl cheating on you OH NO NO NO
Noah Lopez
i've been here all along
Charles Parker
There aren't that many porn games with actual gameplay and more than 10 pictures/3 second-loop animations of porn. Most of porn games are RPGMaker/match three/barebones platformers and side-scrollers or just visual novels.
I'm sympathetic to Tim, but I don't think he has a case. If anything, I've learned that Studio FOW is probably run by a bunch of sex positive leftists.
Jack Moore
Based and cuckpilled.
Eli Sullivan
How are those two sentences even related?
Sebastian Harris
I put in 20 bucks because a porn parody of Mass Effect seems pretty amusing to me. If it turns out to be shit I'll only have lost 20 bucks. You're not a wagie who'd actually miss 20 bucks right?
Hudson Young
Also add Valve's guidelines towards allowed XXX content to this.
The game will be shit, because Valve wont allow anything besides missionary positions, toon-chicks in their 30s and consensual sex acts. So if they even wanted to make a good smut game, on steam they cant.
sorry, had a mild stroke. it should be "if anything comes out of this"
Colton Russell
StudioFOW has a huge astroturfing campaign being spread out among Kikebook/Jewtube/Twatter/Reddit and it looks like it leaked here. You can't trust any posts here as being legitimate. Watch out in the coming weeks and months.
Their shit is so bland and vanilla. Their only edge now is the budget
Samuel Jenkins
wow you're so edgy and EXTREEEEEME
Jack Peterson
I'm going to buy that game and beat my meat so hard I'm going to get called Chris Brown
Grayson Garcia
>Being this insecure
Blake Lee
are you just writing some random words now underage?
Luke Parker
too bad the blonde one sounds like a tranny
Noah Miller
is this from kunoichi 3? i only skipped thru it one time and it seemed weak compared to the second in the series
Evan Adams
I backed these guys for their Yrel movie. Every scene was up to backer vote. All the scenes where she'd get violently slapped around were the ones that one. Then the movie came out and the team decided "that's too scary to animate" so it was just the usual tame rape into mindbroken vanilla shit that they always do. Bunch of us pulled our support and never looked back, but sadly they rebuilt their community since then with rich vanillafags.
still angry about this. I was hyped for the gits video more than any other and what a shit show it ended up being.
Cameron Rivera
No, they wont. They wont go through trouble animating additional "problematic" scenes and characters. First: its very time consuming, second: Valve could remove the game from store if they catch wind about it. But its mostly the first. No one will do new content for free.
Nathaniel Cox
So? Let them try. If it's disappointing then sucks for them, if not then we can just buy it and reap the reward that the backers risked their money on.
Robert Cook
>cuck complainers The point of the fetish is the humiliation of the guy that got cucked,not seeing a guy fuck a woman who is cheating with someone else.
I doubt very much that the MC would give a single fuck if that monster is having sex with that scientist
Gavin Rodriguez
Like OP noted, there are only like 3 decent movies out of 16 that they made.
Owen Harris
Valve isn't going to censor the game. The only games they censored had pedoshit in them. Subverse won't have pedoshit for faggots.
Jack Bell
I'm not familiar, but sure.
Yes you do, that is exactly what a trademark is. The problem is that maintaining trademark is a very expensive affair, so only those with the more money get to own words. You can't hold onto a generic name like "Video Game", or "... Saga" but a unique name like "Dwarf Fortress" or "Subverse" can be. Unlike copyright, your claim on your trademarked words can be weakened if you do not defend it. Hence, all the Zenimax shit with "Scrolls" and why "Beyond" was renamed "Anthem". I imagine Tarn Adams, Tim Pool, or anyone else rather indie is reluctant to pay $300 for each country he wanted to file a trademark in, and pursue global litigation against those that could threaten his branding. It sounds like Tim didn't register a trademark though, so he doesn't have much of a legal leg to stand on. It's then simply a moral courtesy then to not force someone else to defend their branding, especially when your association to it is damaging (it seems to have already caused confusion regardless of different mediums), and when your relevance to the claim is tenuous at best.
Ethan Peterson
I think gits was a special and new level of bad. i'd have been fine if it was on the level of anything else they had produced but gits is definitely on it's own tier of trash.
Tyler Wood
If user a big IF.
Brody Wright
They censor rapey stuff, racist stuff, young looking chars, even if they have big tits and so on, you uninformed fag. 99% of usual FOW stuff was rapey biz.
Grayson Brooks
>Protag's gonna fuck every single female member of the crew, thus meaning he fucks multiple women (none of which he is in a relationship with, I'd assume, unless you pick that as an option later in the game) >At least one girl might fuck multiple dudes as well (again, none of which they're in a relationship with) How is this cuckoldry again? Just seems like hippy free love shit to me.
Bentley Myers
Sad idiots self insert as the protagonist and think of the girls as their waifus who shouldn't be touched by other men
Christopher Jenkins
>especially when your association to it is damaging Damaging what? Subverse is nothing. Until this whole shit happened, an article hadn't been posted there in a fucking year. Pool didn't care about it.
Justin Martin
And yet there's a bunch of rapey and young looking characters with big boobies in Steam releases, like almost all the RPG Maker and Puzzle Hentai releases. Valve censors underage porn and that's good. They leave everything else alone.
Cooper Peterson
t. cuckold
Jose Baker
>Whilst walking past the Laboratory, the player can hear sexually suggestive moans coming from within as a bipedal alien stud called Bulgetto pleasures your Chief Science Officer. There is nothing you can do about this, so don't even try.
>your
>you
>An enigmatic alien known only as Chodestool will engage in doggystyle copulation with various crew members if you forget to feed him
>you
>A stoned engineer called Dallick proudly lets his tiny penis hang loose as he parades around your ship in a lurid display of free-spirited expression
>your
>The FuccBotts can also deploy ground troops who are robotic soldiers equipped with large sex toys in place of their arms. They will use these sex toys to hit you over the head. Approach with caution.
>you
someone should tell FOW to stop self inserting
Jayden Campbell
Pathetic.
Lucas Martin
>half of Yea Forums unironically defending this cuckshit lol
Zachary Sanders
>>Whilst walking past the Laboratory, the player can hear sexually suggestive moans coming from within as a bipedal alien stud called Bulgetto pleasures your Chief Science Officer. There is nothing you can do about this, so don't even try.
this sounds like it straight out of s NTR game
Andrew Ramirez
it is
Daniel Perry
>170GBP exclusive DLC Fuck this
Cameron Flores
>advertise game stating you can have multiple "waifus" >said "waifus" go around getting fucked by other people and you can't avoid it Do these fags not understand the term "waifu", and more than one ruins your laifu?
Not necessarily the site but the Youtube channel, which has been more active in the last few months. He claims in his recent video that he has lost interview prospects because of confusion between the brands. It sounds like that's what prompted him to make noise about it in the first place.
Studiofow are scum. They intentionally fucked over Tim Pool. I've never watched his content but what Studiofow did is extremely shitty.
Carter Harris
theyre a bunch of cucks
Owen Taylor
>the youtube channel >that only has 90k subs and barely manages to get 20k views on any given video Sounds like he's just pointing fingers because his experiment was a failure
Hunter Thomas
Nekopara OVA. There was a super special tier to have your character animated and funded.
But since it's a short OVA she just comes into the restaurant and says hi.
Brayden Bailey
>>said "waifus" go around getting fucked by other people and you can't avoid it Wait, I supported this. What the fuck?
I think FOW make decent 3d porn. They seem to know what they're doing in that regard. But are any of them experienced In game development? Are they hiring talent? They're not an indi studio trying to find a game, they're a group of people who use source filmmaker trying to make a Game, and I'm dubious.
If only there loads of cuckqueaning and domination of ugly girl monsters then this game would be top tier. Oh well, I got teraurge for that.
William Turner
Based
Noah Rodriguez
Cry sum moar Tim Pool
Logan Perez
jesus christ why does the west have such a low standards for porn?
Cooper Taylor
Tim is not going to win this.
>Tim only filed the trademark 5 days ago. The porno Subverse game filed its trademark in February. >Tim keeps saying "Subverse" is a made-up word. In fact, Subverse is an obsolete old word from the 1500s that is another way of saying "to subvert." It's also anarchist slang. >If you try to enforce a trademark you hold, you must enforce it everywhere, all the time. There are other things called Subverse and Tim didn't give a shit about them so he loses automatically. >Things called Subverse have existed before Tim's Subverse. >Tim never filed a trademark for Subverse LLC. >Tim never obtained an international trademark for the Subverse name,
He literally cannot win and is just going to make himself look fucking stupid and waste his own money, to ultimately still lose.
Elijah Howard
>western porn game >ever fucking lol, not even once, just stick to making shitty AAA movie games and 8 bit pixel meme garbage
Camden Gonzalez
This, I feel for him, he's obviously put in work for his company. I don't follow him closely but I see his vids every now and then and I had no idea he had a company by that name. Honestly he's better off rebranding to Subverse Media or something along those lines.
Well, of course they're sex positive, because they're making porn games. And of course they're leftist because the far right doesn't like porn
John Rodriguez
This
Noah Price
You should have built up an audience/company first then
Nathaniel Ward
In Tims video he stated he filed years ago. Almost 4. In the same video he also states its a made-up word with its last usage being in the 1500's. He has america locked down so he could win it here, but in the rest of the world there will be a porn game called Subverse and there is nothing he can do to stop that.
Justin Kelly
>Tim Pool Can someone explain what that beaner manlet has to do with anything?
Logan Perry
He's the guy butthurt and suing Studio FOW over their game being popular
>In the same video he also states its a made-up word with its last usage being in the 1500's Which is an outright lie, since there are many other things that are named Subverse he has never made a move on.
Asher Garcia
thats false. in the us tim pool has owned the trademark for a number of years
Adam Wood
They're gonna have to use all their cash to fight a guy over trademark anyways and the game won't get made lol.
Joshua Foster
I’ve never understood why user memed so hard about ntr. The stuff i’ve seen on panda is pretty okay.
Is like every other faggot that browses here a victim of cheating or something?
>many other things that are named Subverse he has never made a move on. like what
Hudson Long
> there are many other things that are named Subverse he has never made a move on. He already mentioned this and pointed out that these few other brands don't matter because they are not threatening to forever destroy his brand the way this porn game is. At least listen to what he's saying before talking shit.
Elijah Morales
>In Tims video he stated he filed years ago. Not according to the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
Gabriel Lee
Hardly, Tim is gonna be fucked pretty quickly considering how weak his case is.
He's basically Maddox. In that he's a balding cuck starting frivolous lawsuits over his ego.
Adam James
citation required
Dominic Howard
>Why is everyone so damn excited over this? You wouldn't understand what its like to have a penis.
Luis Lopez
That's not how it works. You can't pick and choose who you go after when it comes to trying to protect a name.
Wyatt Peterson
>calling some rando a cuck >the devs are unironic fucking cucks
Liam Rogers
NTRfags became extremely vocal and obnoxious really fast. So to respond to that, people who don't like it became equally as vocal and obnoxious.
There's nothing frivolous about it you armchar retard cuck. Any medium sized media brand would be destroyed if a $1 000 000 porn game decided to compete with you.
There's nothing frivolous about defending years of work.
William Davis
>You can't pick and choose who you go after when it comes to trying to protect a name. Yes you can, idiot. Same way video game companies don't have to copyright strike every gameplay video to still have their rights.
Matthew Ward
Done. and you completely just BTFO yourself. Holy shit dude.
Like, are you fucking retarded? Do you think that having intellectual property rights means you have a duty to chase any mild conflict and pay for it?
Noah Hughes
>Filing Date
Asher Moore
>In Tims video he stated he filed years ago. Almost 4. >Filing Date: April 8, 2019 Can you read? Also, this is an application, it won't even get evaluated until 3 months after being filed.
Connor Parker
>NTRfags became extremely vocal and obnoxious really fast. I must have missed it cause I never see that at all. I only see people chimping out at any notion over it.
On the other hand, I see gems like this, I'm hoping for more bantz instead of just outrage as I got no stake in it. Hating without humor is just boring.
Subverse Multimedia Subverse Industries Subverse Studios Subverse Media House Some of these, such as Subverse Media House and Multimedia, are actual news organizations that are in Tim's field, whereas Studio FOW's Subverse is not in Tim's field. By ignoring companies in his field to go after one that is outside of it, Tim just auto-loses.
You are all wrong. You do not know how trademark works. If you decide to go after a trademark you must defend it everywhere, all the time. By ignoring other instances Tim has already relinquished it because he has shown he does not intend to seriously fight for it. You CAN'T pick and choose.
Blake Clark
How is it NTR if you're fucking shitloads of other women as well?
Robert Johnson
its fucking pathetic
Easton Morgan
He's an idiot, his only strong branding is the name Tim Pool, not 'Subverse'. Trying to claim he invented the term is laughable.
Hunter Morris
are you mentally retarded? variants of a name do not count as copyright Retard industries is not Retard
Aaron Perez
Tim never said he filed years ago. Tim pointed out that he filled recently and pointed out that he had to doxx himself. The porn game does not have an american copyright.
Plus, obviously none of this matters, it's just legal means to an end. Obviously it's very shitty for the porn makers to take advantage of the low-standards they have to deal with to step on someone else.
Samuel Allen
They think it's NTR because your harem can fuck other dudes even though the entire point of their game is that the entire universe is sluts so it makes sense that everyone would just fuck everyone all the time.
Carter Cooper
If you defend Fow you are defending a cuckshit porn studio.
