Guys, I need help bad. I work at a game studio and they're trying to make a moba. Yes, a Moba. I don't even understand...

he can't use them all at once, imagine if invoker could literally just hit one of any 12 keys on his keyboard and throw skills out

also he's a mage and has weakneses, wtf weakness would a highly mobile assasssin with stealth shit even have

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that shit but with 12 skills including stealth, no fucking thanks

>thinking 12 skills is a lot
Someone didn't play pre-Cata WoW

>hey, guys. how can I ruin the company I work for and lose my job
Are you fucking retarded? If you don't like it quit and go work somewhere else.

explain From software then, and the guys that did Hollow Knight, indie doesn't mean your games have to be pants on head retarded

Hey OP, remember when you were at video games university and your dumbass team were trying to make a 3d fighter instead of a 2d real fighter?

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Too bad this is a MOBA or supposed to be a variation of one, not a goddamn MMORPG. No Moba has characters with that many skills, and even Invoker is gated off by having to do those orb inputs to do his moves. He can't just hit 12 keys as shit happens.

They are essentially competing for customers that have most likely already sunk in thousands of hours and hundreds of dollars in League of Legends. It's not viable. Very few people swaps MOBAs because the formula is very one dimensional.
New MOBA players will ONLY want the most simplest renditions because more buttons=harder and they don't want the most intimidating skill curve, which is where League shines.
If you are signing up to play a genre of game infamous for its toxicity, would you want to play the one with 12 skill champions? Hell no. Only players well familiar with the genre would swap and then return once they remember all the bonus features Riot/Valve offers.

>implying this game won't ruin their company

any company retarded enough to make a moba post dota 2 and league has it coming

Mobas play exactly like MMORPGs.

This company is also dumb at handling toxicity, I talked with them about it and they basically said trash talking and being toxic won't be banned unless you use racial slurs or death threats/act overly vicious. In other words, you can tell someone they're garbage and should uninstall and wont get banned so long as you don't say nigger. Which is bullshit and just encourages toxicity.

What's your job title?

They play nothing like mmorpgs. They use an isometric from above camera and use click to move, mmorpgs use a behind the character camera and wasd controls

Yes yes great astroturfing now fuck off

>This company is also dumb at handling toxicity, I talked with them about it and they basically said trash talking and being toxic won't be banned unless you use racial slurs or death threats/act overly vicious. In other words, you can tell someone they're garbage and should uninstall and wont get banned so long as you don't say nigger. Which is bullshit and just encourages toxicity.
that sounds based though

Tipped your hand, Senpai.

Thats how valve does it and they make bank

Sounds like a pasta desu senpai.

They're target select and hotkeys. The mechanical skill involved is exactly the same.

nah you get banned for saying nigger in dota 2

Suggest to add big anime titties to every character. That'll do.

are you from 2013? I think that was the time everyone tried to jump on ASSFAGGOTS bandwagon and many cancelled

also you sound like an underaged idiot

If you want to attract customers, marketing that you arw more competent than your comptetitors is key
Handling the number one complaint of the genre with less restraint is a sure way to bankruptcy

Abandon ship while you can!

lmfao no you don't. I haven't played in a few months or hafl a year, and my roommate used to say, "I've never seen anyone type nigger so fast".

Did something change?

Why not take this opportunity to spark innovation and pursue interesting new directions in this tired old format?

Here's your one rule that will guarantee people will play your new MOBA: not another fantasy setting. Do futuristic cyborgs and shit. Do WW2 tanks and shit. Do historic medieval heroes and shit. Do a MOBA but with insects.

>nah I'll whine instead

ok

do they have any usp's? do they have a unique artstyle or control method? anything that'd give them an edge over smite or hots (the ones that they'll actualy have to beat since lol and dota players are way too entrenched)
if they have anything to offer then stick with it, if not then you may want to move on

battlerite

That hasn't been a thing since floppies, user. There are already strong magnets inside hard drives.

Then you have nothing to worry about. You'll be vindicated either way. No point in wasting your time on something that is going to happen regardless. Go work somewhere else where you'll actually enjoy what you're doing so you're not a vindictive little shit.

Cluck cluck cluck cluck CLUCK

the setting for this game looks ripped off of warhammer 40k and dune, so I already know it's gonna fail for sure based on that alone, people aren't gonna want to play as edgelord characters in some edgy looking maps

CATER TO FURRIES.

Wtf that sounds based, tell us the name

>the warcraft 3 moba about playing a ship you slowly upgrade into the craziest shit and repair by standing in a dock until you manage to send your ships past enemy lines to their docks
now thats how you innovate

No you don't. I've shit talked chinks,russians,germans and more and still have 10k behavior score.

>falling for viral marketing this hard
Jesus christ, kill yourself. You too OP

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>Can I get them sued by Riot and Blizzard and Valve or something?
I mean, you could get sued for breaking NDA.

Someone already made a game like that. I distinctly remember being able to choose between several different ships and equipment. Then you had to make it to their base and destroy it.

I don't get why people always say MOBA is dead. Every single one of them is:
>top, mid, bot, jungle lanes with clearly defined roles and metas
>mage, ADC, fighter, support, tank, assassin - no exception
>boring fantasy shit

Change literally one of these and you have an entirely different experience you can market to the millions bored to death of the big two.

Just make it and get paid. Or give somebody else the job buddy,

Better then boring stale “fantasy” league

This post made me fucking LOL. I hope its true.

this shit literally does not matter you faggot

sounds like they aren't the problem in this scenario

no title yet, its currently under the name "Project Babylon"

>Random indie game steals from LoL
>LoL stole from DotA and other games
>DotA stole from Warcraft
>Warcraft stole from Warhammer and DnD

And so the cycle continues

>>boring fantasy shit

you mean you don't want to play as a buff man with a sword and huge pauldrons or a buff man with a beard and a pirate gun?

I betcha this guy is either 1) Lying, or 2) In QC. Get a skill that matters, then you get to have input.

>baby that has only played league thinks he knows anything

yeah but this stealing is worse, how the fuck can you literally steal entire kits and slap them together? this is some mugen level shit, like those edits where people give K' Iori's moves added to his own or some shit

Will this game be a top down moba though? There’s like 500 of those on steam.

I love Katarina!

Name one big MOBA that isn't exactly what I listed.

Option one: Do your job, get the game done and count your money while it flops and the company crashes.
Option two: Go to the boss/executives/design leaders and tell them what's what. Tell them their design is lazy and retarded and that the game is nothing but a rip-off of a dead genre. Might make a difference, might get you fired. Read about their failure while looking at job listings and know you did what you could to help them.
Option three: Quit. Avoid discussions of morality, and just accept this project is a dead end. Look for a better one elsewhere. Later down the line read about their failure and be glad you didn't sink with the ship.

You can't get them sued, btw.

Dota

it would have to be, how on earth would you be able to control characters that teleport all over the place if it had a camera like smite

she was one of my mains

one of my fav skins was the asian one since you could see the curves of her ass better when zoomed in

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Can mods ban this thread for viral marketing? This entire "sabotage" pretense is clearly fucking asinine and this chucklefuck is just advertising features. Delete this faggotry.

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Why would you even care to sue the place anyways? Why does morality matter so much that you want to quit and sue? Let them make the shitty league clone and let it die on steam

>no mana just cooldowns
>don't do this for every champion
Why the fuck is rito so fucking stupid holy shit

Unironically dota

>implying an assassin that is highly mobile with 12 skills is a feature anyone would actually enjoy
>implying it wouldn't cause massive salt and rage

Yeah I know I can't wait to fight against a stealth assassin that you can't escape from and has projectiles that hit multiple targets

if fizz had no mana costs he'd be even more hellish to fight

If they insist in going full MOBA, try to pander hard to waifufags and furfags to, at least, recover the money spent on it.

some of the female characters have big tits and long legs and some skins are revealing

also one of the characters is a buff lizardman

Then go full on with that, don't fall for the diversity meme.
Maybe make one character gay or something to cause some controversy or some shit and make your game be heard.
The rest, go full waifufag and furfag pandering.
That's going to be easier than getting the project shut down.

that ruins the warhammer 40k aesthetic then, women in that weren't fapbait

When did I say that you stupid nigger? Case in point

I swear this topic sounds entirely the same as the one about some guy making a fighting game.

One side has autism here.

how is describing a feature people will hate a form of viral marketing then?

your game better have sexy elf women in it

If they're paying you steadily just do it. Sounds like it's a trainwreck so keep an eye out for other work and as long as you're ready to jump ship when it fails you're good.

>how is literally the oldest viral marketing trick in the book marketing
Fuck off you weasely faggot

>hey guys, our new soda tastes like dogshit
>oh boy, I as a consumer can't wait to try that product!

Dont be dumb.

>Can I get them sued by Riot and Blizzard and Valve or something? Is there some copyright on these different skills I can exploit to get this project shut down?
That's not how this works and you're beyond stupid if you think it is

you need an engine that allows the characters to interact with each other on a more direct way. dynamic hitboxes and more complex animations. not this basic bitch shit that league has where when Lee kicks a champ he is kicking the hitbox and not the actual model.

other than that a 5th ability is totally fine if you make sure that the kits have ~2 one hit wonder abilities. evry kit in league is spammable q, one hit wonder and then 2 abilities for the gimick that the champ has. just adjust thsi and change it for a 5 skil system. it is possible but i doubt you have the money or talent to do this right

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I am pretty sure you can't blatantly steal an entire character's moveset for your game. Some company can't steal Nero or Vergil's moveset, make a game called "Demons Can't Sob" and make money from it

No they don't you fucking dunce

>It's like their design philosophy is "lol make everything broken as shit"
Looks like you found your niche

I regularly call people taco niggers and say shit like "sorry I don't speak nachos bell grande" and I've never been put in low prio

this is how league was at the start as well. but once they grow big they clean out all the toxicity for the gamr grillz and investors.

Ever heard of Supernova?
Yeah I didn't think so

They totally can, it's not copyrighted. That isn't even what you said they're doing anyways.

Dota already has that covered though

That's not what you're doing at all and you know it you insufferable shitstain.

is there a tomboy in the roster, this is more impotent than you might think

>Implying the new mana items makes champions run out of mana
Seriously, the only mage that can run out of mana after the first item is Aurelion Sol, the rest have a watered Urf mode.

That has and still is a thing with HDD's. Its just that modern HDD's require a stronger magnet to erase them and definitely won't fall victim to something like a refrigerator magnet or anything that user likely has readily available.

>12 skill
>stealth
Do you make moba or mmorpg

put girls with big titties and lolis and your game will be fine, otherwise dont promote your shitty game on Yea Forums

they claim its a moba, but I never saw a moba with shit like this. This assassin bitch throws daggers like Kat, can pick them up and attack with them like she can, can blinkstrike to them or to enemies, does that spin shit she does, and has Eve and Valeera skills too from Hots. It's fucking bullshit. trying to fight this bitch in the beta feels like playing a fucking action game not a goddamn moba, and its stressful as fuck.

Yes you can. Otherwise, literally every fighting game with projectiles can be called a "street fighter ripoff". Or every fps can be called a Doom ripoff. You can't patent mechanics and even if you could, it takes a good and motivated legal team to defend it in court.

But stealing entire movesets should be a different matter entirely. I shouldn't be able to take Zed's kit from LoL and literally copy paste it into my own game on a different character. You at least have to change something, and by something I mean the actual skills, not "it's Zed ult but does less damage lol"

is this the same autist op who kept making threads about some shitty fighting game

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Please tell me no one is falling for this transparent plug

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I never made any thread about Mortal Kombat 11 though

is there a tomboy in the game

I Have a question: What does your game provide that's diferent from other mobas?

What i can see your team doing is making each character have 12 abilities, but can only have 4 active per game. Think like darkest dungeon where each character has more abilities they can equip. Make few characters, but with a lot of meat to chew.
From there you can copy dota's big item list or Hots ability tree thingy, or LoL's abilities level, maybe make something new! Mobas are always 5vs5 defend your base, maybe rethink that formula, they should be aggresive about an objective? Search&Kill the enemy in a map, maybe gather a source and each team tries to sabotage the other while trying to acomplish their own objectives(eh, not a fan of this last one).

The managment is shit as far as i can read, so try to make usefull things for future works.

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How the fuck is it a plug, no one wants to deal with that shit. People bitch enough about characters like that in these games.

>try the alpha
>face this bitch
>she runs off and stealths
>am wondering where the fuck she went, go to attack some minions
>a minute later I'm in a smokescreen, get stabbed a bunch a times, go to run, she throws a dagger that hits me, bounces off and lands behind me, she yanks me back to her, teleports to me, throws another dagger that lands on her, spin slashes me, blinks to the other dagger and slashes me again, does that spinny move shit, an ally comes in to help and the bitch blinks to him and stealths away

fuck this shit

there's a girl similar in build to jinx with short spiky hair and she fights using a lead pipe and beat em up style character moves and combos

Definitely not, in pubs I start spewing out racial slurs the moment I see a chinese or peruvian player on the enemy team and I've never even been chat restricted. You honestly have to be a tremendous asshole as in you actually ruin games to get below a 6k behavior score.

What platform is it for?

this is true, I got a premade with 4 white nerd guys that kept singing "nigger nigger nigger" in voice chat and typing it in all and nothing happened to them

give her a cute nerdy rival/possible boyfriend

Oh, is this the part where I engage with you about this needlessly detailed scenario? I'm not playing your little game, nigger. Not your mobashit or your marketing scheme.

its detailed to show you how awful and unfun this shit is to deal with. this is just gonna drive people away

that sounds so fucking infuriating, I'd ragequit

Yeah you totally need to drive people away from this game that literally no one would have known about without your thread here. Drive yourself away and off a cliff you slimy cunt

is there a cute nerd in the game

That would either make Anivia broken or useless

LOL has always been shit and DOTA 2 ruined itself with constant new meta shit.

Your company might have a chance if they do something different, but likely they'll make another shitty dota clone.

original invoker had like 27 skills

What a mess