It was a different time

It was a different time

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2008 Japan was weird.

Naoto is based and redpilled

>it's now considered problematic to encourage people to embrace who they are even if they go against gender roles because it's considered transphobic
JUST SOCIETY ME UP BROS

I love Fuuka !

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What the fuck are you even talking about?

God I would pay anything to have Fuuka sit on my face in pantyhose and let me drink her piss straight from the source

>japan pussies out the gay relationship: the game
>japan pussies out on having a ftm character: the game

something something Fuuka is not for lewd! yes!

talking about I guess

>I want my game to be about identity politics when that's not the point: the retard

Fuuka is not for sick perverted stuff like that!
She is for pure, tender, healthy loving only!

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Its fine to go against gender roles if you prove your worth, its stupid to think you need to change your gender to do that

Not really. Hashino is jut a known homophobic ass.

See: this, and negative stereotypical portrayal of gay men in Persona 5

You should really avoid saying things like that. One day you will get your twisted wish, at the cost of something that is irreplaceable.

It's considered oppression to suggest a trans person isn't trans, so you aren't supposed to argue with any feelings or thoughts that can be interpreted as transgender because it's considered morally equivalent to conversion therapy. Sounds retarded but there are plenty of twitter mobs who will act on this line of thinking.

Why is Yea Forums so obsessed with trannies?

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Morons out there have still somehow convinced themselves that Naoto is trans to the point that they say the writers are wrong

Back to Discord with you

>somehow
They convinced themselves they are a different sex

Is it a negative stereotype if there's a disproportionate amount of sex offenders that are gay?

oh god that kinda looks like me and i hate trannies i need to get /fit/ so i dont look like a woman

Because we need to fix the problem.
We're tired of pretending it's ok

Trannies want to have a great specimen like Naoto to be one of them so they're technically not lying when they claim not all of them are hideous abominations

Not really, I think the messages of Kanji and Naoto's character about showing "feminine" traits like an interest in sewing/knitting while being male, or the struggle of females to be accepted in a primarily male workplace are still relevant topics for the japan of today. Persona's really Persona because it can freely talk about these topics, and other issues of japanese society the creators want to tackle.

and yet she is still best girl

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genital surgery sucked back in 2008, especially in japan

shits cash now

true.

>People forget Kanji literally admitted to coming out in P4

yikes

Humanity mastered dick growing technology?

This guys right, just look up Jazz genital surgery to see for yourself

Explain why.

It's funny that the people that want Kanji to be gay and Naoto to be a man don't even realize that they're supporting stereotypical gender roles enforced on them by society.
They missed the point that everyone called Kanji gay because he liked to sew and work on clothing. Naoto used her gender as an excuse for how she was treated and thought she had to be a man to get respect and acted like a stereotype based on her favorite novels and shows.

say no more senpai

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>He is just bisexual really
There's no indication that he's attracted to men while there is evidence that he's attracted to multiple women. He just subconsciously saw through the disguise.

because I like her social link and think she is cute, also great fashion. its just my opinion though, I like most of the P4 girls

My issue with people perceiving this as trans erasure (though thats a real thing and is fucked up) is that the context of the scene is Naoto wants to be a man (at least based on the implications) because of the biased/patriarchal nature of society, which, in Japan, is much more extreme than America
That's literally the story she wants to break free of society holding her back
Was there anything ever in her character to implying that there was a reason beyond that for her wanting to be male/assume the role of a male because I don't think that's the same as reasons people have for wanting to transition, maybe I'm wrong but I think people misinterpret that
The gay kanji thing is just Japan being bad at describing that for sure but I think Naoto is often misrepresented

you know it's rather funny that a few years ago a case could have been made for naoto being seen as a good feminist character who realizes she doesn't have to be a man to compete or be better than the men who dominate her profession but fast forward not even a decade and she's a problematic character because she realizes the same thing.

KANJI LIKES CUTE THINGS AND LIKES TO SEW. WHY ISN'T HE TAKING IT UP THE ASS AND SUCKING DICK ON THE DAILY?!?!?!?

I can't believe there's still retards that can't understand such an obvious fucking character arc. Same thing with Kanji

Naoto isn't trans and didn't want to be trans. Naoto's dream job is one mostly run and staffed by men, so she felt like she had to stifle her true self and conform so she could fit in
Kanji isn't gay. Kanji is insecure because he likes girly things. That's fucking it. I hope some of you niggers are just pretending to be retarded at this point

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Her dancing all night outfit had no goddamn right to be so fucking sexy.

Big tits, big bank account, big Mind Charge+Megidolaon hits for farming hands.

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>I hope some of you niggers are just pretending to be retarded at this point
It's obviously a much less popular viewpoint on here, but a lot of people really believe it off site.

Trannies aren't even real, why do people pretend they are out there ruining video games.

Everyone in Inaba is secretly gay, they just need to come out.

biggest tits among p4 girls and really smart.

These "people" only see a missed opportunity to forward the LGBT agenda through another piece of media, they're too fucking stupid to understand things like character development or social commentary. Literally braindead fucking morons. Luckily Atlus dosen't give a fuck what Western SJWs think or want.

>This kills the tumblr tranny.

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>backwards country is backwards
wooooooow
i mean are you suprised that japan is culturally decades in the past

gays are a negative population

>plays dumb
Youre not fooling anyone, retardera

everyone'a gay at your junes

they are really vocal in Yea Forums and speedrunning community. Maybe even in gamedev.

i'm not complaining

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Those people can go suck a fat surgically altered tranny dick

No wonder Yea Forumsesetera hates 4 so much. It finally makes sense. This and the thread complaining about "fat shaming" earlier today finally help me see the truth.

I have a trans friend who pretty much guaranteed that Naoto is trans. Doubt anyone who worked on P4 knows anything about trans stuff so...

>Naoto wasn't a tranny
That's the entire point of the thread, what's your problem

But 4 is reseteras favorite persona game

Is this Abe's doing

so fucking cute

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It's problematic unlike based 2 and 3. 2 even has based LOVECRAFT dude

>Yea Forumsesetera
It's not actually Yea Forums. We've been under 24/7 raids for a long while now.
>just pretending

Why are the patients suddenly running the loony bin and why is everyone acting like it's normal? I want out of this timeline, take me back. TAKE ME THE FUCK BACK.

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Why is it that Persona 2 is the only acceptable game where a character is allowed to be gay without people spazzing out?

>people now try to identify as trans instead of one or the other and trying to transition over and assume a as normal as possible life

I can't understand how hollow these people feel when all they crave is attention of any kind and at any cost.

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But Naoto is saying those things about herself. She identifies as a girl. Have you even played the game we're talking about or are you just here to tell us about some boring shit you read on Twitter?

>my friend knows more than the people who wrote the game
>the fact that he's trans means he is an authority on all things to do with anyone who is trans or who ever considered becoming the opposite gender
Mate, your friend's mentally ill. The difference between him and Naoto is that Naoto confronts her psyche and realizes that she isn't actually trans, whereas your friend is padded by society and goaded into buying further and further into their delusions until they reach the point of no return and end up being another suicide statistic. If you're actually this person's thread talk them out of that shit, going through with a transition is statistically like a 50/50 death sentence.

I really hope Persona 6 is filled with homosexuals and trannies just so Yea Forums can talk about it nonstop.

Because a girl with a dick is the best of both worlds.

>The difference between him and Naoto is that Naoto confronts her psyche and realizes that she isn't actually trans
There is no "realize", she never identified as a man.

Yea Forums already talks about Persona non stop. There are at least 3 threads a day.

Naoto was trying to act like a man, but she was doing it because she thought that she wouldn't be accepted as a detective unless she dressed and acted a certain way. There are plenty of women that don't want to act feminine, but that doesn't make them trans either. I understand that people want to see some deeper story about her, but Persona doesn't provide that.

>indentified
She never was. You are or you aren't. The OP image has the in-game dialogue.
>b-but this extremely rare birth defect that doesn't apply to me or anyone i've ever known
fuck off

She identified as a detective which in her mind was strictly a masculine thing, she felt her identity was incomplete because she wasn't a man. It's practically the same thing.

Not sure some spic posting pictures of Ann is talking.

Oh, it's just schizoposting again. Never mind.

On any given day there is
>1/2 fag whining thread
>P5R speculation thread
>3/4 nostalgia thread
>Waifu thread
Not counting Smash threads obviously.

Fuck, I wanna play P4G so bad, but I don't own a Vita. Why the fuck doesn't Atlus just outsource their ports and release em in every fucking platform. They would make their investment back so fucking fast.

Koromaru wouldn't participate in their delusions

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The same reason any gay vidya character is allowed: because 13-year-old magapedes from Reddit haven't heard about it yet.

Why hasn't any Persona game trumped Persona 2 in terms of story and characters? It's been a decade now. Also, when Hashino is finished with Re:Fantasy, will he be coming back to Persona, or do you think he's done?

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Hahahahaha

Not for Atlus. Didn't you see how Catherine Fullbody went? They still do the same shit.

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If you've ever played it, you'd know it's better than any of the newer generation games. You niggers are a little too addicted to Social Links.

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In reality, the game ended up being "embrace who society wants you to be" and they only realized after. That's why they went so hard on "shitty adults" for 5.

Haha yeah.

5 months is barely time for any effects to show and the guy is already in his 30s most likely, what was he expecting?

I mean just look at her, she's irresistible. It's not fair to the others.

>Implying any of these zoomers have the attention span to play anything pre Persona 3
>Implying people play Persona for anything but the waifus these days
(LOL)

I have that same shirt. Oh no.

Haha yeah.

Oh no no no

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Not really. Yukiko and Rise choose the paths they do for reasons outside of what society wants them to be and Yumi makes peace with her father before he dies, not because it's what's expected of her but because it helps her move on.

>tfw persona is to intellagent for Yea Forums

> Persona 3 > Persona 4 > Shitttttttttttttttttttttttt > Persoyna 5

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I don't give a shit about nu-Yea Forums politics, post Naoto!

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Naoto is literally the perfect P4 girl, she does everything the other main girls do, but better.
Chie is a Tomboy with secret girlie tendencies? Naoto watches tv shows for young boys and is such a wife that she can cook for you.
Yukiko smart while secretly silly and the princess of her families in? Naoto is an honest to god prodigy who is the heir to a wealthy clan of detectives.
Rise falls for you in a second and keeps trying throughout the game? Naoto falls for you so hard that she considers uprooting her life to follow you to Tokyo.
They hit perfection in P4.

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This
>Nullifies the final boss with an underleveled person
>Auto battles through the whole game with nothing but starter personas
P1 and 2 are just too hardcore bro...it has Nietsquee and freaking Nyarlyhotep and stuff.

>Make a character who's whole arc is about coming to terms with her gender identity and realizing that she doesn't have to follow the strict gender roles set out by society, but instead can express both femininity and masculinity in different ways while feeling secure in her identity
>"progressives" say this is wrong and she needs to be trans because of the way she acts
I love it when these filthy hypocrites get confused and end up attacking the ideals they claim to support.

How is this even fair. I'm really glad sane people have begun showing irritation and disapproval.

I'm as much of a liberal "muh feelings" faggot as they come... but why the fuck is this problematic?

Just in the same way a transgender person transitions to be what they feel their "true self" is, how is it problematic for someone to NOT transition because they accept who they are?

This politics shit is so confusing.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

the "female" teams for the summer Olympics is going to be noting but trannys

yes yes yes

>why the fuck is this problematic?
It's not, it's /pol/ trying to start shit

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I want to bury my face in these legs and die.

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Because if you're not with them you're against them

Some people on some sites think it's either all or nothing, and a discussion of gender roles and the relationship between sexuality and personality is an issue as opposed to just slapping labels on characters and calling it a victory. You know, one of those things that was the entire point of P4

Because trans = good and not trans = bad

it's that simple, these people have the brains of children

case in point:
>"Everyone I don't like is /pol/!"

It's pretty bizarre to say the least.

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I can't believe this is what people are mad over.

No, people legitimately have a problem with the fact that Naoto isn't trans. Yes, as ignorant as it is, that is an actual complaint.

its like watching a adult play sports with little kids I might actually watch the "female" teams play in 2020

Why is this board so obsessed with trannies? I swear we haven't gone a day in a good year plus without the word getting thrown around.

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gaymer gayte and /pol/ phone posters moving to the next big thing

>But Naoto is saying those things about herself. She identifies as a girl.
Tell that to tumblr.

>that girls face in the first pic

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well....this is just how shit is now

okay then

Remember when we thought people with enhanced prosthetics would be what broke competitive sport?

Me on the number 44 shirt

SIND SIE DAS ESSEN? NEIN, WIR SING DIE JÄGER!

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I was curious so I check her tag on Tumblr. And yeah.

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I remember a lesbian tennis association chief or something got blasted and forced to apologize for saying putting trans in women tourney isn't fair.
Shits surreal.

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Have sex.

>Character explicitly identifies as female
>Still insists on referring to them as a man because they didn't get what they wanted
Jeez

Naoto didn't want to be a man because she felt she was a man on the inside, it's because of how women in her desired field were looked upon. If she lived in a more equal society, her dysphoria wouldn't even exist.

Tranny discord radiing Yea Forums regularly. All an attempt to make trannies seen as normal and ubiquitious

Accept Jesus.

>be the nerd girl i always wanted to date.
Can we not fucking admit these people only do it because of mental problems. he only did it because he could not get puss

learn to recognize a joke you autistic cocksmear

>RESPECT PEOPLE'S PRONOUNS
>UNLESS THEY'RE NOT USING THE PRONOUN WE DECIDE THEY SHOULD HAVE

>Tumblr
Yikes

I like what I like.

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I believe it is "Sie sind das Essen und wir sind the Jäger".

Ah yes. It is so unfair to acknowledge that someone with the body of a man is stronger than someone with the body of a woman. In women's sports.
Strange how easy it is to say that you are a woman now.
Why isn't there just trans sports then so that transwomen don't infest women's sports?

Naoto accepting her biological drive to have children as a woman with a man she loves!

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Yukiko: Has to decide between leaving and becoming her own woman or following in her family's footsteps
Rise: Idol struggling with seperating her public image from her real self, comes to realise that those two things aren't mutually exclusive
Kanji: Bully with a heart of gold, feels he has to live up to his reputation even though it doesn't fit with who he's comfortable being
Chie: Srong sense of justice with a will to protect, has to overcome her jealousy of Yukiko to accept who she is
Yosuke: At first appears to be an easy going goof, but is deeply insecure about how people view him becasue of his parents and the impact of Junes on the community
Naoto: SUPER DETECTIVE ORPHAN CHILD PRODEGY WITH BIG TITS AND BLUE ANIME HAIR THAT EVERYONE THINKS IS A CUTE, COOL BOY BUT SURPISE, SHE'S ACTUALLY A GIRL WHO COMES TO TERMS WITH IT BUT IS STILL A SUPER DETECTIVE ORPHAN CHILD PRODEGY WITH BIG TITS AND BLUE ANIME HAIR THAT EVERYONE THINKS IS A CUTE COOL BOY

Naoto is just the worst.

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>Why isn't there just trans sports

there will be just give it time and all female sports will just be trannies competing against each other

The really ironic part for Kanji specifically is that these people are literally doing what Yosuke is, which the game itself paints as fucked up and bad. Insisting characters are a certain way due to their own world view, despite evidence to the contrary and the characters themselves saying otherwise. It's not like Persona games are complicated stuff to grasp.

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see left

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if only trannies had that same mentality they wouldn't end up kill themselves so much. Like seriously, cutting off your dick and then having to live the rest of your life with a literal wound between your legs that is always trying to heal itself must be hell. That's why they lose their mind and then kill themselves.

I am not sure why still people do not get Naoto is not a trans but just a woman confusing her identity. There is really nothing to be upset, well, maybe it is not in amurican land though poisoned by political correctness.

is "she" castrated? I wonder how far along somebody has to be in a transition to make it into a Woman's professional team.

if I remember right all they need is the right hormonal levels

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Nope.
They checked his hormone levels and his testosterone was under a certain limit so he's good to go.

A more sane time.

I don't think that's good enough. I think you have to be past the point of no return if you want to professionally play for the other team. Who is to say that person won't flip-flop back to being a man and keep their woman championship trophies? Fuck that, I demand her balls if she wants to play for the woman's team.

Because her entire character struggle is about wanting to undergo some kind of magical surgery to become a man, after having spent the rest of the time posing as a man being called the Detective Prince by everyone.

And the only reason she decides not to is because she says "well that's impossible" instead of flat out "that's not what I want to do at all"

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>she doesn't need to turn herself into a man to be good at something that men typically do

nobody transitions because of stereotypes you polcel.

Man, truly this is clown world. What the hell has reality become?

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every day i struggle more to live in this day and age. I though im getting old, but its the times that changed to the worse.

>Why hasn't any Persona game trumped Persona 2 in terms of story and characters?
cozy okada and tadashi satomi both left atlus between p2ep and p3. the writers hashino brought in were a downgrade from satomi.

I can't believe that they don't understand that Chie doesn't literally want to transition into a steak.

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get off my website. i don't care if you're being ironic, you aren't funny you little faggot.

It's plainly unfair for the rest of players. Trannies need their own league if they want to play.
>reach peak growth as man
>switch to female
>easy win
Just plainly ban it, it will never be fair. If shits like that accepted I bet my ass some countries will start building their women olympic teams around that strategy.

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how long until lefties start asserting that all tomboys are actually trannies
or is this already a thing that i’m thankfully unaware of

I can't believe they pussied out with Yukiko's arc. It's just embarrassing how they bent to the BDSMphobes. Her entire character struggle is about wanting to become latex.

>only person who gets to be what they want to be is Teddie, because of magic
No fair.

>I demand her balls if she wants to play for the woman's team

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Should've bought the Persona Dancing: Endless Night edition for PS4. It came with it exclusively as a digital download.

just accept what it is. its not like every fictional story is made to perfectly suit with your degenerated ideology. anyway, these saying Naoto is a trans are moron.

Did Chie get it the worst of the 1 note character deterioration? In Arena she jumps out a window because she thinks she smells steak

it's a thing but they try to claim every character nowadays so it doesn't really matter

Jun is actually written to be gay and is written well enough. Kanji being considered gay is fujo idiocy and flagrant bisexual erasure. Naoto being considered trans is just moronic reaching by ignorant trannies who don't actually understand the gender bullshit they've fucked their lives up over.

it's not /pol/ or an imagined boogeyman, resetera is full of mouthbreathing retards that really think naoto is trans and kanji is gay, and that it was a mistake of the writers not to acknowledge it

P4G, not P4D.

I mean, I thought it was more she felt she had to undergo this surgery to better conform to what everyone thought/expected of her, to be the "detective prince". When she realized she could accept herself the weight of everyone's hopes and expecations stopped getting to her and she could be herself.
It's been a while since I played P4 though.

Why is it always the people I like who get shit on?

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Sounds like you're just a faggot man

no surgery ever came up outside of la-la land. I'm sure Kanji's arc flew over your head as well, but do you retards think the BDSM shit is real, too?

>canonically the lewdest of the main girls

It might be fair if they're more strict on the requirements for being a woman.

I can't imagine that HRT and being castrated are good for gains, maybe set the bar so you have to be castrated and have been on HRT for FIVE YEARS before you can compete in woman's professional sports. In that time, their peak physical condition male body would've deteriorated into something soft enough for women's sports and it would be completely fair.

Is that an actual costume in the game?

You keep making bad bets I guess. It's a shame since Chie is a lot of fun when she's not a meat-obsessed cavewoman. It remains to be seen if P5 will have the same thing happen to its cast.

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>an imagined boogeyman
>brings up resetera

tranny is retarded too lmao the absolute state of this man's brain

hate to bring /pol/ shit to Yea Forums but
some people genuinely should transition and it's a good cure for some cases of gender dysphoria
however
so many fucking insecure incel retards are doing it as a meme. it's blatantly become trendy/"fashionable" to transition. these people only want to be the opposite gender out of appreciation rather than actually feeling like they belong there. just look at all those fucking discord trannies. their autism is ruining the public's eye on this issue.
transitioning is getting to the point where its promoting gender roles and it's fucking disgusting.

>5 years
>professional athlete
>meaning they got their dick cutted-off when they are not even allowed to drive
Jesus, the slippery slope is strong in this one. I know professional sports have always being a joke, but that will be too much.

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the fuck does this even have to do with metroid

I chose her because she's cute and when I played the game I like her SLink. Motherfuckers at Atlus had to fuck her up.

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even more reason to love naoto desu

Naoto is an inspiration to everyone. Like seriously, this is how you deal with identity issues in a mature way. It helped me through my issues which were very similar to hers (minus the ace detective bit obviously)

I don't know, just trying to make more sense out of it so that I, a man, can't be allowed to put on a wig and masquerade a woman's sports star.

He said "or" didn't he?

there are people that unironically use both resetera and Yea Forums and complain in both places about Yea Forums being """toxic""" """bigots"""

I want to be extremely lewd with Naoto!

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Nothing, it’s pure narcissism.
Note how many people gave it an upvote. Yea Forums might be shit, but Reddit’s the worst fucking place online.
>if a girl has some masculine characteristics, than she must be a man
Isn’t that a bit, dare I say, sexist? Do these people realize the irony at all?

in modern day and age its hard to maintain sanity. I think that those people with low iq is like children that believe in all kinds of shit because of lack of basic knowledge and critical thinking. Plus so many people act like its some kind of normal thing.

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I never liked Naoto but I'll admit her wedding path scene in PQ warmed me up to her a lot. The way the questions were going I expected the game to pair me with Fuuka

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This generation is absolutely blasted

Shit’s been put in the drinking water to turn everyone into a bunch of smoothbrains who believe what they’re told.
Drink your fluoride, kids! t. George Soros

w
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>no pretty short-haired reverse trap to hug

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She likes to dress up.

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This artist draws the best Naoto's.

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why are there so many adachis

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>She likes roleplaying Sentai.
>You know she would mess with the toys and joke around with you while watching the shows weekly.
This is how you know she's a keeper.

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Or she roleplays a villainess who capture the hero
Either way she has a costume budget.

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>Naoto orders a Blue Swan costume in her size
>Way too tight over her chest
>Has to have it altered in embarrassment

>Catherine best ending has a tranny going back to being a man
>Naoto and Kanji's story dabs on mentally ill trannies and fags
THESE JAPS ARE ON A ROLL MAN!

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To be fair, that was a joke ending. Her flanderization didn't really start until Q

Was it? I remember it being midway through her P4A story. You fight Akihiko over the meat because his character had also been horribly derailed into Training, Protein, Shinji

>roleplays a villainess
>Naoto in Mele's outfit.

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Naoto is a tranny he wants to be a dude else even disguising himself as a guy.

Yeah. You can choose to follow him out the window or move on with the plot. Akihiko also wasn't flanderized in Arena 1 and his story was more about coming to terms with adjusting back into society and protecting people/fighting injustic in ways that don't involve punching things really hard. His flanderization started in Ultimax.

Yukiko and Kanji also have joke endings where they let their delusions take over. Yukiko with her terrible cooking and Kanji thinking everything's a dream.

Shit, she'd actually be down for it.

I literally have never played any of these games except Persona 3 and I only come in here for some nice fanart. Please keep dumping. Thank you.

Also, your DNA will never change despite chopping off your cock. You will always be a male. Hormones, clothes, feminine activities, and rejection of masculinity will not help you. The reality of what you are is etched into your genes. Rejecting that is simply rejecting reality.

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this generation is just full of manchildren
hard times, strong men, good times, weak men and such

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why was this posted to a metroid subreddit and why did it get more than 171 points?

Naoto is so beyond DTF at the end of her romance arc that its insane. She is such a unique combination of touch-starved, horny, and head over heels in love that the list of what she wouldn't do is probably shorter than the list of what she would.

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now hold on a second what is going on here

>he didn't get the true "Adachi bukake" ending

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I dumped p3 stuff yesterday and now I'll dump random p4 images if you guys want

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living in bizzaro world

it's all a joke

clown world

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It's too bad Naoto is a fucking shit detective.

Well, I’m ready to die now

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delete this now

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Live with it

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>Boomhaur has accepted himself to the point where he doesn't need glasses
>Bill broke his and also doesn't need them because he Billdozes per Hank's directions

Post the rest of them, or post the archive.

>Teenager struggles with identity like an actual teenager
>this is somehow chickening out.
Get fucked idiot.

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That applies to all the girls really, but Naoto is the only one who's personality switches to be totally submissive. Like you could do anything to her and she'd accept it without question. It's such a drastic contrast from how she acts normally, like she's mindbroken before you've even touched her.

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It applies with the other girls, but it's more gooey, less direct. Naoto is the one who goes straight into cosplaying for you, wanting to be around you as much as possible, and wanting to have sex on the beach.
And the best part is that it's all her idea.
It's why I look at stuff like with my eyebrow raised. Naoto at the end of her romance was more intimately direct than Rise wishes she was, she wouldn't be content to just hold your hand in bed.

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Isn't Naoto's whole thing just "I want to get into this profession and no one takes female seriously so I will be a male?"

post the pastebins negro

Basically yeah

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Her idea of a detective is antiquated from the shows she watched growing up, so she's extra convinced that no one in the justice system will take her seriously as a female detective

Literally yes. The Shadow is the exageration of the true self's desires, which is why hers turned what you said into "I must become a man physically"
Lefties are brainlets.

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So I remember right, sorry haven't played it since the original P4 came out and never since. Why do people make up shit then about her wanting to be trans?

Should I go for Marie or Naoto for my second playthrough?

because trannies want to self insert

Trannies are all almost exclusively men being women, they can't even related on that level.

Not that I don’t believe you, but can you show me any pictures of posts that argue that Naoto is trans/Kanji is gay? Genuinely curious to hear what their argument is.

She realised her huge tits would go to waste if she had the surgery.

Also it's imaginationland the Shadow would probably slice her in half because they're not a fucking doctor.

Because the distortion of her self that her shadow reflects is her belief that she'd be better off as a profession if she were a man. At the end of her dungeon, her Shadow is pretty much getting ready to transition her as the logical end to that line of thinking. Then she accepts those worries and tries to get over them, which has her personality normalizing.

They make things up because some people see it as a cop-out on Atlus's part because they didn't understand her character arc. She doesn't ACTUALLY want to be a man, she just thinks that it would be the logical thing to do for a detective, for her to become the actual Detective Prince at the cost of her the rest of her self.

During the whole time she wanted to be a man she was. Or more likely a transvestite atleast.

Naoto didn't want to be a boy. She thought that by acting more like a man that she would be accepted more in her occupation and respected more through it. She only acted more male, not actually beyond that. Don't even know why I'm replying like this post is any different from everyone else in the thread.

bad

Faggots like you are the worse.

Hey guys, you use umbrellas in the rain? You're a fag, chop off your dick.

Hey ladies, you like sports? Chop off your tits!

Go fuck yourself tanny faggot with your hypocritical stick that is you furthering gender stereotypes.
Literal retards. The lot of you.

I work at amazon for last two 1/2 years. Seen maybe 2 mtf trannies; 1 was really bad, 2 I wouldn't of spotted if it wasn't for sinful reasons.

I've seen at least half a dozen female to males. Pretty fucked up actually. Even use our bathrooms. Is it a bad idea to whip my dick out in front of a girl with a beard?

>Yea Forums

>knew a dude that came out as a woman years ago
>claimed that persona 4 was his favorite game
>naoto was his favorite character

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Here are the Noots. Give them to me.

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reminder that kanji is bi

I read of a guy who identified as a woman, broke the world record for dead lift, then went back identifying as a man.

Shit is hilarious.

And someone no one saw a problem with it, right? I forget.

Fuck off Pat and Woolie, you didn't get what they were doing, don't get mad at Japan for your personal bias towards character motivations

>Mitsuru would wear nothing to bed.
now THAT'S what i call based

what the fuck....

Reminds me of that damn Shinny Rapidash fag

do not reply to this man

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Hot.

pump and dump

i always knew trannies and most LGBT people were typically self-centered attention whores but i didn't think they were so narcissistic that they can only see themselves as their own gf

Now THIS is cringe. Not Xenoblade

There's different readings of this, and a trans-inclusionary one would be valid.
The kind of logic that underlies this game supports that, if you look at Kanji, for example.

>There's different readings of this
There's not.

To see it posted there is expected.
To it see it get positive attention there is infuriating.
All slackjawed reddit-browsing double niggers need to be nailed to a cross.

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All dogs have detect evil as a racial.

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>The kind of logic that underlies this game supports that
>Shadows are a component of a person's psyche that is magnified to ridiculous extremes and working on a black and white mentality of the subject
Yes, because Chie definitely really sees Yukiko as a tool to make herself look better and Kanji really is gay, which you apparently would agree with considering you said you can somehow read his arc as being about him ACTUALLY being gay rather than just reconciling his hobbies and aesthetic tastes with the image of masculinity society has forced on him

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I've had this as my phone wallpaper for a while now.
Go to the pixiv ID for the original version.

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Jesus you're a retard
She wanted to be a "man" because women were look down on in the detective line of work. It was not about her feeling like she was a man, or that she wanted to be one because she liked women
There's a reason why even the retarded trannnies don't mess with naoto's case. It's because an argument like that doesn't cut it at all. Same for kanji being gay

Have sex

it's not. i have "friends" who went on twitter rants because naoto doesn't transition claiming it was just atlus being transphobic.
people are fucking insane, it's not always /pol/

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Don't worry, the Switch remaster will fix that.

No.

Projecting pretty hard there.
Kanji's arc is about reconciling his enjoyment of things typically considered to be feminine and his sexuality. As societal pressures tend to dictate that such things as sewing, painting and liking cute things is "girly" (and partly due to bullying), his psyche interpreted that as what could be considered a subversion of being a male, eg. being gay - that's what was amplified into his Shadow.
In other words, liking things like cooking and crafts doesn't make a man gay. In the same vein, the desire to be respected by ones' peers in an old boys' club doesn't require defying the gender you identify as to one you would like yourself to be in order to appease them.
Think of the difference between "I am a man" and "I wish I were the little girl".

Trannies get to self insert every day or their hatchet wounds will heal shut

why are you even "friends" with those people? Twitter folks always insane. My friends use it for stupid shit too. I use it for shitposting and bitching to shitty devs.

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Based Naoto proving trannies that you can be cured of gender dysphoria

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because i was friends with them before they went insane and i'd feel bad if i abandoned them
i'm holding on to the sliver of hope they'll grow out of it but i know they won't. they've surrounded themselves with like-minded people who will do nothing but validate them and never challenge their backwards thought processes.

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So other people did think it was weird that Barlog was sticking his nose in this when GoW literally has fewer accessibility options than Sekiro. I was worried I was crazy or something

Extremely SJWy tranny. I didn't notice anything egg-like in how Naoto acts. What I always told myself is she wants to break free from the macho and serious world of Japanese law enforcement and be recognized as the great detective she is, which she couldn't do because 2008 Japan lived in a society.

Naoto doesn't even have gender dysphoria, you fucking daft cunt.

who is calling this problematic? The people in your head?

i started GoW only few days ago and feels like shit after Sekiro.

She wanted to be a man not for degenerate reasons like wanting to fuck girls or hating herself as a woman, it's literally just because she wanted to be accepted and acknowledged more by her male peers, but instead of taking the easy/degenerate way out, she learned that she just have to work harder for her accomplishments to matter whether she's a woman or not.
Also I'm pretty sure if she actually became a tranny she'd be laughed off the japanese police force for doing something so insane/stupid.

>(though thats a real thing and is fucked up)
No one gives a fuck about your opinion on unrelated topics discord tranny. You all do that parentheses shit where you have to inject a secondary argument right into the middle of your explanation like anyone gives a fuck about "trans Erasure" (trans people should be erased from reality tee hee). Make an point and move on next time, dickhead.

She reminds me of Kino, and so is best girl.

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kek

>2/14
does this happen in golden only?
or are these some secret cutscenes

trannies BTFO by Chadsona

>Catherine director says they couldn't complete their vision back then because of sensibilities regarding gay relationships.
>Trannys forget all about Rin and lose their shit over just seeing Erica as a man.
You can't win this game with them.

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Don't even play the game with them.

BUT MUH TRANNY FRIENDS

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man this level of ignorance/retardation even i don't understand. i guess based? if you're unaware of something as a whole even when trying to research it you should probably just drink your tall glass of shut the fuck up.

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>misgendering the character because you're headcanon is still that they're trans

my fucking sides, these people are something else

dialate

>tfw you'll never make Naoto shit out your cum

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>Yu x Naoto

This thread is disgusting and should be deleted.

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>japan pussies out the gay relationship: the game
The only character it applies to is Yosuke since he was originally going to be a love interest for the MC but it got removed at the last minute. Don't tell me you're talking about Kanji here.

Do what I did and buy a Playstation TV and play P4G on that. PSTVs are dirt cheap and you can play the game on your TV instead of a small Vita screen.

The only cut content was Yosuke being gay. It was explained that he is making fun of Kanji and talking about girls all the time, because he was in denial and wanted to validate that he is heterosexual.

Emulate it nigger.

How is vita emulation?

I hope this thread dies before NY wakes up and screams about how everyone is trans and gay even if they don't know it

Wasn't it just her misunderstanding though, its not that females werent taken seriously but they just hated that some fucking highschooler came out of no where and acted as if she knew how to do the job better than the adults

People called the new Catherine transphobic for this exact same message

Because social links contribute to the character development of the main characters outside of the main plot, which is shit, and the calendar system forces the writer to add filler "episodes" and stretch the plot.

>PSTVs are dirt cheap
Not anymore. Ever since USB drive support the price has shot up.

This. You two are so delusional its not funny. Seems about right though for two french dweebs with tranny faggot friends

>No. 44's fucking face

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At some point there's a scene where Kanji says Yosuke actually talked to him privately about how it's ok to be gay and love is love and stuff like that. I think that's during the group date café or some other filler scene and it's easy to miss. So really, Yosuke never really tried to be rude or even homophobic to Kanji in the first place, he's very obviously awkward and in denial.

No it was both. Anons are saying that Japan is worst than the West when it comes to discrimination at workplaces, but stuff like not being taken seriously for being a woman or younger than others is pretty common over here too, it's just that there's nothing that can really be done against it. I look younger than I am but at my previous job I was as old as almost everyone else (mid-20s) and nobody was taking me seriously, I was always interrupted and treated like a drooling retard just because everyone assumed I was immature just based on my looks. At some point I had to recruit someone for our team and the all-women team was asking me way more things about the male applicants because they just wanted a new guy for a change of atmosphere in the company. There were way more competent female applicants with better degrees but nobody took them seriously, everyone's reaction was just "oh, another woman"

I imagine witnessing similar shit when you're a teenager can easily fuck up you self-esteem, because it can already easily fuck up an adult's self-esteem. Being a young woman is already shit when you work with other young women, I can't even imagine how horrible it is when you're working with older men who have a stick up their ass. No wonder Naoto started cross-dressing.

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Dilate yourself

they literally grow a dick on the back of a mouse using stem cells and then sew it on

That's what these retards do now.
This isn't reddit where you downvote the reality you don't like.

With 99% of them, it's literally idealising women so much that they want to become their perfect girlfriend