Has the most engaging combat out of any souls game

>I cant refute what youre saying, so I’ll incite the reddit boogyman

>moves them even further

>I literally did it.

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.
You experienced a hollow victory.
Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.
It's sad that you don't know the difference.

Except cheesing things in this game often takes 10x longer to do than just playing it normally. You're rewarded for not cheesing by you know actually having fun and also not taking 10-20 minutes longer. You're just a retarded BBfag.

>plays the game in a boring uninspired manner
>man this game sure is unchallenging and boring
The absolute state of snoys

>play BB
>best weapon in the entire game is in the first area
>pop beastblood pellet
>mash L1
>kill boss in seconds
Great game.

>reuses bosses for multiple encounters
>genchiro, ogre, voldo guy, snake, schimen, ape, snakeye, blue robed samurai, 7 spear guy, drunkard, headless.

Fighting the same bosses. Shit game.

>Implying being a shinobi is honorable

I played the game by taking advantage of the games stupidity. If anything I got the exact same reward with minimal effort.

>Plays the game in a way that the game allows you to play it without actual outside tampering

Again, just playing whats in front of me user. It wouldnt even be considered cheating.

Annnnnd no one brought up Bloodeborn weeb

Okay, BBCuck

SEETHING. Come back when you have a substantive argument to refute me

>If anything I got the exact same reward with minimal effort.
and taking ten times longer.

What a shitty defense.How do you just admit that you can cheese everything/not deny you can

>Puts podcast on
>Listens while cheesing
>11 minutes later
>???

Profit

Almost everything in the Souls games can be cheesed. Also why would I cheese the game if it takes twice as long as just playing the game normally? Now that I've gotten good at the game hardly any enemies actually pose a threat to me and I can kill things in seconds. Cheesing is only a major issue if its difficult to avoid doing during normal play. You have to go out of your way to cheese in this game. You're just retarded my friend.

Not talking about what you did to "tamper," user. You said yourself you used boring cheeses to get past challenges, and then went on to say you didn't enjoy the game. If you don't see the correlation between these two actions then I can't help you further. All From Soft games are easily cheesable so if we all were to critique them based on a purposefully uninspired playstyle then they would all be 0/10s

There are two bosses in the entire game that you can’t cheese, and they’re the two giant bulls.

You can, legitimately, spend the game running and swinging from checkpoint to checkpoint and not fight a single enemy.

I wound up in the gunfort waaaayy early because I just ran around ignoring everything and laughing.

No ones saying the souls games arent cheesy, you can summon people.

But people are putting Sekiro on a pedestal when its just another form of cheesy souls game

The thing is though, the other games had stuff like the lore, gear, builds, etc to carry it. Summoning is cheesy but it could be comfy.

Atmosphere was also way better in souls/BB.

Acting like Sekiro is better is foolish

>taking 11 minutes to kill a single enemy in this fucking game
Literally no bossfight lasts longer than 5 minutes if you parry and mikiri counter

Also the way you are describing this is just sad. Like why even play the game if you're gonna do the most basic low effort strats and divert your attention to another thing. Go watch a movie or something if engaging combat bores you this much

I played it because people talk about it like its gods gift.

Again, my play style is just as valid as yours. I’m not cheating.

>Floyd Maywearther moves around and exploits other boxers weakness, chipping away at them
>WH..WHY ISNT HE JUST SWINGING LIKE A REAL BOXER I WANT TO SEE REAL BOXING

I didnt cheat, I just played the game

You're acting like Sekiro doesn't have Lore,
Seven Different Skilltrees (which contain skills that can combo with Tools), 10 Tools that can be levelled and combined, and a good atmosphere. It may not be as good as DS1, but its definitely on par with Bloodborne.
(Also, you finally mentionef BB, so a snoy after all)

Its lore is surface level.

You only need about 6 skills to beat the game, and barely use the prosthetics.

And I mentioned BB in relation to atmosphere, not gameplay.

Using bazinga words still doesnt help you refute anything Im saying. No one in this thread is refuting anything Im saying

What a terrible analogy. Its like running and gunning in MGS then complaining about low health, or using the white Tanuki suit in Super Mario 3D Land then talking about how theres no stakes. If you're gonna go out of your way to make the game boring, don't complain about the game being boring. Simple as that.

Why are you incapable of typing like a normal, functioning, non-reddit using human being?

You are either underage or genuinely braindead. Possibly both.

You only need the claymore to beat DS1. I guess all the other weapons are useless right? I was talking about Bloodborne's atmosphere as well, since Sekiro's superior gameplay is not even a debate. If you think any of what I said is "bazinga words" then you really are just shitposting arent you

Snakes entire moveset in Smash is based off running and gunning though. It’s an entirely viable way of playing the game. If someone says “THIS GAME IS THE BEST STEALTH GAME EVER” and someone says “Well actually I play it like this because its easier”, you cant say that person is playing it wrong.

Also theres a distinct difference between gameplay for gameplays sake and using literal baby features in a game.

Running around a boss in sekiro is a strategy, not a baby feature.

SEEEEETTTTTTHHHHHEEEE

Well...yeah. I never said the souls games were some incredible bastions of gameplay.

I’m just saying Sekiro is more of the same, nothing revolutionary.

based

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if you wanna finger your asshole to thought of being a special snowflake that doesnt like a great game go ahead. im gonna enjoy and support quality shit though

look at the soulsbaby seethe how can one ever recover?

I played the game to completion though. I even got the good ending.

All I’m saying is that its not as good as this board says.

And so far no one can say anything to refute it

Why is it that From is always the trendsetter in those kind of games? People liked Souls and try to rip off their combat system. Then Bloodborne comes out and people think Souls combat sucked. Now Sekiro came out a few weeks and it's a perfect mix of fast paced gameplay and kino swordfighting and Bloodborne fans are in meltdown already. There is no doubt devs will start copying the game's formula now

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Read the thread. Sekiro is being BTFO

What the fuck would Smash have to do with Metal Gear Solid. Anyway, someone who runs and guns in MGS1 will get fucked. It ruins the experience. Someone who does nothing but boring tricks and cheeses will make the game a cakewalk for the most part, again, ruining the experience. If your purposefuly ruin the experience of a game, you cannot criticize the game for having a lackluster one. It's like speaking to a rock I swear.

>ignores counter arguments and gets called out on ignoring mechanics
Yeah, Sekiro fags are sure getting BTFO'd fellow redditor

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It’s you who isn’t understanding.

If a game allows you to play a certain way without cheating, and you WIN, its a viable way to play.

People run and gun in MGS and win. And love it. And people like you freak out because you can’t handle the idea of it.

Sekiro can be played by death ofa thousand cuts, and people can win, and no one can say anything.

Saying the gameplay is 2deep4u is ridiculous. The games a flash in the pan

>Complains about the game having no depth having no depth
>Plays as shallowly as his arguments
Like clockwork aint it

What?

If you can play the game with one sword, then yeah the other weapons are useless on a technical level.

How is that truth a shallow argument?

The keyword is that they like it. People """""freak out"""" because you play in an alternate way thats not enjoyable for you (you've stated this yourself) and then complained about how unenjoyable it was. Its like you don't think before posting.
Literally nobody is saying that the gameplay is 2deep4u.

But the other skills aren't useless. Using the bare minimum doesn't make the add ons obsolote. Also, different people have easier times with different skills. Ichimonji might be good for one but Nightjar slash might be the Go To for someone else.

Dying a bunch of times just to learn a parry routine would literally make no difference.

I played the game in a way that made it palatable to me, and noticed glaring flaws.

You’re angry.

It’s ok

The difference would be that you would be having fun. The fact that you would go into this game with a dread of dying is also showing of how much disregard you have for the intended experience.
>I simply played in palatable way and noticed flaws
Its almost like you weren't suppised to play in that way. If you don't enjoy it don't do it.

I just disabled rumble on my DS4, and immediately noticed a significant improvement in my input delay, and am no longer getting dropped button presses. I'm playing on my PS4 too, so it isn't a PC only issue.
How did FROM fuck this up so badly?

From is notorious for having shitty optimization. I love most of their games and I can admit this.

>FROM makes 3rd person action game, that's advertised as relatively difficult
has no...
>weapons
>stats
>build potential
>co-op/PvP
>lack of replayability across the board
>soulsfags/BBfags don't like it
>some found the combat loop too shallow for a game with nothing but one katana and gimmick firepower abilities, and didn't like the shift from european aesthetics to feudal nippon
>others found it too difficult or didn't like the forced Prepare to Die meme
>sekirofags respond only with "git gud", SEETHposting, or "sonyygers"
Sekirofags really need to understand that people enjoyed FROM's previous works too, because of all the aforementioned things not present in Sekiro. People found distaste for the game and wanted a sequel to their previous titles that they loved. Is that a concept too hard to grasp for you git gud redditors?

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>t.needs summoning to beat a game

No, YOU found distaste for the game. This is a very big difference. This is why dumb fucks like you are always told to "git gud." If someone calmly says what aspects they didn't like of Sekiro, most reasonable people would be understanding. But that's not the case. Dumb FUCKS like you barge into the thread and DEMAND that people understand that Sekiro is "objectively bad." You list off the reasons why, which tend to be illegitimate, and then you fuckers get in a huff when we explain that you need to get better at the game. You are arguing in bad faith.

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>>stats
>>build potential
>>co-op/PvP
>>lack of replayability across the board
>>some found the combat loop too shallow for a game with nothing but one katana and gimmick firepower abilities, and didn't like the shift from european aesthetics to feudal nippon
And that's how I know you haven't played it. Good shitposting

get a load of this games journalist

I don't wanna be that guy that tells you that you played the game wrong but it sounds like you didn't even try to have a good time with it.

>GIT GUD RMAOOOO
yikes, fucking corny, git gud redditors
NG had decent challenge, but it only peaked difficulty with Genichiro, then it's smooth sailing, and beat Isshin in under 8 tries
NG+ is a literal joke in terms of difficulty
your game isn't hard in the slightest
just doing Royal Guard in DMCV on DMD shits all over your game in terms of difficulty

>game with hardmode is harder than the base difficulty of another game after completion. Jesus christ, who wouldve thought

The reason I compared it to another game is because you subhumans seemed to think sekiro is hardcore shit, when literal twitch zoomers are ploughing through it rn. Fuck off with your reddit retorts, nigger.

>4 years later and Yea Forums is still furious over BB's existence

You are reffering to multiple people as a single person, seething faggot. I for one don't think its that hard of a game. And it doesn't make it a bad game because you personally think its easy

>>Makes son!ggers seethe and compare it to bloodborne every thread
That's the best part desu

100 Bloodshit threads the last day alone

Almost like you can literally run away from Nameless King and shoot magic shit at him every 5 seconds without ever getting hit once.

>Again, my play style is just as valid as yours
It's not. You're a shitter.

>its not enough that I enjoy/don't enjoy a game, I have to construct elaborate scenarios where I'm somehow winning and other people are losing
Opinion Wars I: The Phantom Menace

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I think it's shittier game than the souls game, desu.
One katana, a few gimmicks that synergize with the moment to moment gameplay, and MGR:R parry autism doesn't warrant removal of builds, weapons, pvp and co-op, which is everything every soulsborne game has

>I barely died
>this game is so easy to cheese
>died
You see the problem here.

cope

The way I see it, there's two branches of "Souls" games. There's the branch that has Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne. Those games have a certain charm to them. Then there's the one for all the others. The Dork Souls branch was okay for about one game but god DAMN did they not have anything left after that. BB has a certain something that hooks you. Sekiro just gave off that B-team vibe, and instantly turned me off. Also, feudal Japan as a video game setting is as tired as WW2. I am so sick of ninjas and samurais.

None of these are comparable to summoning, which literally beats the bosses for you. If we're comparing using everything at your disposal in Sekiro to everything at your disposal in other Souls games, Sekiro is still harder because it requires you to actually do something whereas other Souls games you could literally do nothing save for a few bosses and beat it.

You obviously enjoyed it enough to see it to completion you lying faggot

>plays the game wrong so he doesn't have to learn the actual mechanics
>calls the game boring
You'd think God Hand is boring too if you played it like that, you absolute shitter.

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Fuck off faggot. I do prefer bloodborne but sekiro is fucking great and I can't wait for more from software quality games.

do people really think it's that hard that they have to do these cheeses which are more annoying to do than just playing normally

>no new gear making exploration worthwhile
Only legitimate criticism in your post. I explored the entire map for fucking nothing, but oh well.

>giving the player a variety of weapons and tools to tackle the game in whatever way they want
>"""""cheesing"""""
Git gud niggers are the worst cancer to come out of the Fromdrone pool. Your game isn't fucking hard. Past Genichiro, game is smoothing sailing if you're not a retard. Doing subsequent playthroughs on NG, NG+, kuro's charm, demon's bell, it's all funneled into an identical gameplay loop.
Also
>Sekiro
>cheese repellent
Rooks rike someone didn't pray the game, rmao.

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Only the shittiest shitters even consider cheesing like that. At the very least I'd say they're persistent, but they're still terrible at video games and too stupid to understand when a game offers them satisfying combat.

Stop thinling of it as a souls game faggot. Go play DS3 if you want customization

I never even used the firecrackers because I thought the only worked on beasts and I never watched any streams, videos, went on Yea Forums, etc, during my first playthrough

Firecrackers were never mentioned in my post or the post I replied to. I don't use them, but using them is fine. Sprinting around the battlefield, waiting for an attack you know you can punish, hitting the boss once, then going back to running is cheesing, and it is an invalid way of playing. You can do the same shit in God Hand, but all you're accomplishing is ruining the game for yourself by turning it into a slog and proving to everybody else that you're a retard who sucks at video games.

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You can beat a lot of games using the most basic of tactics. You can run through the Ratchet and Clank games with only the wrench. You can beat all the Souls games unarmed.

Saying something's useless means it has no purpose. It has no use. I'll agree it's not NEEDED, but to say it's useless because you don't need to do it is just plain incorrect.

>lack of replayability across the board
>you literally miss several bosses depending on your playthrough choices

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Not saying you can't enjoy it more, who am I to anyway, I just love seeing your retarded cousins get riled up with """objective criticisms""""""""' about Sekiro in every thread

>Feudal Japan in video games is as tired as WW2
If you think it hard enough it will become true user

>Stop thinling of it as a souls game
But you faggots seem to compare it to souls games.

>cant build your character stats
>no fun weapons to find and use to create unique builds
>lore is garbage, the little it has
>no armor so no fashion souls
>no multiplayer
>ping pong combat that gets boring minutes in
>overall lackluster experience, just another "japan samurai" simulator

This game is fucking garbage. I guess I'm not a weeb enough to praise it just because it has katanas.
I rather replay the entire Souls series than play Sekiro again.

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it's okay to just admit you got filtered, casual user.

Literal NPC tier retort. It really hearkens back to when the DaS1 port happened, and everyone got filtered by the Taurus Demon. It's same shit here, but with the Ogre. In due time, this game will just be another once hardcore FROM game, but this time with none of the things that made "soulsborne" soulsborne.

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The whiners were wrong back then, too. Based gitgud posters are always right.

Git gud