I really hope you guys won't fall for this

What was his name again?

frostbite engine? y or n?

>Support EA
Fuck no.

>discounting all the games that prove him wrong
let me guess, he thinks they don't count because they're established brands, yet star wars doesn't count

Haven't RE2 Remake and Sekiro already proven this?

single party or in RE2s case, a remake so already made it big

>single-player
Yeah i fucking loved Turok, shit was so cas-
>Story driven
No way fag

No, he says GoW and Spider-Man don't count because they're first party.

RDR2 doesn't count "Because it has multiplayer and mtx"

Sekiro counts but fuck you it still doesn't.

Based tinychad laying the law.

what if the game sucks?

Yeah but they don't count because reasons.

Chomping Chimp

Unchained Pat is my favorite

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SHHHHHHHHHHH, Single player bad, but our single player game good, gamers rise up and save Vidya with your wallets. Brought to you by Respawn entertainment, a subsidiary of EA™

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all 3 of these games sold like shit
Anthem sold 20m+ copies and is considered a gigantic failure, you think EA gives a single fuck about your 3m copy games?

Show me a gameplay trailer. If it looks good I buy. If not fuck off.

Best Star Wars game is Jedi Outcast/Academy.

Anthem sold 20+ million copies??
What?
Then why do they bother to act like the good guy here?
Continue their deceptions and aggressive marketing then.
It seems to be working well.

most multiplayer games are bombing nowadays because fortnite has totally taken over the market, no kids want to buy another game when fortnite exists

"Story-driven"

Stop asking questions goy and give EA your fucking money.

If they're such failures go out and make your own vidya user, can't do worse than shitty 3 million copies right?

>blue cuckmark talking about King K. Rool
go back to sperging out about shit you don't know about to people who you think care basedlord

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Define Story-driven

Fuck star wars.

>RE2make doesn't count cause remake and had the name brand to go with it
>while saying FUCKING STAR WARS doesn't

I smell treasure to be plundered lads

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I don't like star wars

What, did the plot in all those games get patched out in the last 20 minutes or something?

or do you mean story-driven games as in "movies with the occasional button prompt" in which case fuck off, I can turn on the tv if I want that.

if he means that, GoW is that

I didn't say any of these are bad you dumbfuck, in fact, Sekiro is my GOTY, I just wanted to point out that if an EA game sold 3m copies the devs would get crucified

Uh, we just had sekiro bro. Now that I think about it a lot of single player games have come out and been successful. What is this guy on about?

Pretty sure that's already been proven with GoW and Spiderman. That is the standard to which it will be compared.

>hurr durr BUY Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order™ if you think you're so tough
I don't generally like modern AAA western games, and never cared for Star Wars as a whole. These past few months I got Sekiro, DMC5, and RE2, and I can barely even remember the last multiplayer game I spent any money on.
Why do I need to prove myself, again?

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You mean games on rails?

Thats pretty much code for linear, so some of those like Sekiro still count.

>you have to buy it!
we don't even know if it's a competent game.
God what a piece of fucking trash
so done with this fanboys, internet communities, and game dev outreach. So much cancer and stupidity in this industry.

>Anthem sold 20m+ copies

lmao no

>story driven game with female protagonist
Already very wary of it after the last Star Wars movie and it's hilariously badly written female characters.

didn't kingdom hearts 3 sell like 5 million within a month?

It's the same shit they've been pulling for like, ten years. They put it on the consumer for something to be successful. So they have a scapegoat if things go to shit. Rather than themselves because the game is just bad.

>HEY GOYS!
>PROVE THAT YOU'LL BUY EAS NEXT BIG AAAA CASHGRAB! IT EVEN FEATURES YOUR FAVORITE DISNEY IP!
>YOU KNOW THOSE COMPANIES NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET RIGHT?!
>LAST YEAR THEY ONLY MADE 30 BILLION! THINK OF THEIR STARVING FAMILIES AND BUY BUY BUY OR STARWARS GAMES ARE CANCELED FOREVER!
>REMEMBER AT-STS! LIGHTSABERS! WOOSHING AND PEWING! VOTE WITH THAT WALLET! BUY A FOUR PACK!

It has a male protag you fucking idiot.

Don't have to prove it. God of War 4 sold 6 million units

Single player story driven games are perfect to pirate.

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Fuck you faggots.
The terror regime of Steam is over, the world is finally changing.
Sweeney and the EGS will put things right.
FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR ENTITLEMENT

Fucking single player Indie darlings that are single player and story driven make a shit ton of money if they're competently made, Let alone a fucking 3rd party company

What the fuck is this retard talking about

>Buy game
>OR ELSE
Ominous.

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Well, I WAS slightly interested in the game, but I guess I'll ignore it now

Gamers.

It's time to join the group.

Will you be a party member?

...Or just another boss...?

The fuck does steam have to do with anything?
You crazy asshole?

Really? Huh, leddit was saying it had a female protag. I should go watch the trailer when I get home from work.

>buy the game we did it right this time

loving every laugh

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What are the odds that they add all that shit in the day 1 patch?

>You better buy our game.
Hilarious.

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Isn't this game cobbled together from the leftovers of a much more ambitious game that EA canned?

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EA can eat shit for life

Don't try to "prove yourself" to anybody. Buy games your interested, and skip ones you dont. If you think this new Star Wars game is going to be shit (and let's be honest, it will), skip it, and dont let any blue checkmark tell you otherwise.

Game journalists need to go back to whereever they came from
Literal fucking shills

>Anthem sold 20m+ copies
Hahahaha no

People are saying it's UE4

>multiplayer games failing to retain players because everyone is just playing fortnite
>try marketing to the core audience again
get fucked and take your shit AAA design by committee games with you

You forgot KH3 and his 5 milions sales.

Also DMC V has microtransaction actually.

>citation needed

They put many anti-developer stuff in their store.
User reviews (reviews from proper critics/journalists count the same like some random idiot), refunds, the 30% cut that almost any other distribution platform has isn't even the worst thing

I REALLY hate jews bros

Yeah stupid "buy exp/items" shit that has been a thing since DLCs got big last gen.

>Anthem sold 20m+ copies
Isn't that game only in beta right now or something?

>multi million
Companies don't want a lot of money. They want all the money.

based and hagpilled

Yet the reality is all these games revenue pale in comparison to games like fortnight, pubg, Mobas, ect.

I love single player games but their profit is baby money in comparison.

I really hope you guys don't use Shitter

I know its just useless red orbs that are compeltely optional, still it has microtransaction, i was just pointing at that.

Anthem is a failure due to inflated development and marketing costs while the three games he listed made back the money put into them and then some.

Doesn't have much to do with this thread.

No, it came out, and it was shit

But what about God of War and Horizon and BOTW and Resident Evil 2 and Devil May Cry 5 and countless other AAA single player only games that have come out in the last few years

It has EA on the box and that alone keeps me far away from it.

And those multiplayer games get out-performed by fucking gacha of all things.

No, those don't count, because reasons

God, Epic shills nor are invading even other non epic store treads?

Yes it does.
Your stupid entitlement will end. You asked for a singleplayer game and now you're going to get one and you complain again. Little bitches, learn your place

>this game won't fuck you in the ass like all our other games did
>praise us for this

True but that market is completely saturated and prone to failure, there is less competition for these kinds of games and there is a dedicated buying market.

didn't kh3 sell like hot cakes?

Oh wow, is this our chance? OUR chance?
I can't wait to support EA, I mean I HAVE to since this is OUR GAME.
No micotransactions, no multiplayer! Wow what a fucking amazing deal!

All these bad things they won't do is really enticing selling points to me!

every Fallen Order thread is also an Epic thread because it's on UE4

You say that like it's an argument but it doesn't make sense.
Buy the game

Oh god that is the worst case of shilling ive seen

>no micro transactions
>has pre order bonus

Aaaaaand dropped. Cute though.

I thought games were supposed to be profitable pretty much no matter what, far more-so than movies.

I feel entitled to the product I've chosen to purchase. Which is not an unfair perspective.

former NeoGAF moderator and massive shithead BishopTL is apparently a dev on the team

twitter.com/VancouverTim

not buying

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It will also have DLCs again.
I mean it was obvious that they were going full lootbox/microtransaction when they announced "NO DLC"

You won't have to worry about that, I'm not buying any of EA's soulless garbage.
Even if they somehow manage to publish a good game, any money I give to them damages the gaming industry as a whole so I will do my best to resist any temptation.

RE2 is totally story driven, literally every time you progress you get more story information.

>using unreal engine instead of source
yeah nah not supporting this chink loving game

this is just fucking blackmail at this point
>if you don't buy theres no market for single player games
>it's a shit game because EA and doesnt sell
>there's no market for single player games

bounty hunters > jedi
if it's not 1313 I don't care

>Star Wars
>good anything
remember that time a purple haired trannie was a general and his cunning plan was to crash his space ship into another space ship in a kamikaze attack?

What about all the hours developers put into creating these games?
All their work goes to nothing because you play it for 2 hours and say "eh, I finished it so now I'll return it" and leave a bad review because something you don't like happens in 5 years

Noose yourself

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And? They reach different markets. When gacha takes off in the west expect to see big publishers investing into that branch too.

You forgot that journos hate JP developed games and will ignore those titles so they don't count for some reason because the west like always wants to be in the center of the zeitgeist.

This.
Jedi shit is horribly overdone. We need a bounty hunter game.
>where you hunt jed-
NO, NOT WHERE YOU HUNT FUCKING JEDI. Enough with the goddamn jedi.

>by third party publishers
>nintendo
>nintendo
>sony
>sony
>sony
Read, nigga.

Why would you even care if publishers like EA make single player games? They aren't gonna make a good game regardless of whether they monetize it out the arse or making it single player.

RDR2 proved it wrong last year in 3 days. EA and Soi wars won't

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because of Origin's refund policy, you'll probably be able to play this 10 hour game in its entirety and still refund it

>BUY THIS GAME OR EA WILL KEEP MAKING SHITTY WHALEBAIT MULTIPLAYER GAMES. OBEY ME, CONSUMER, BUY THIS GAME.
Kiss my ass you fucking faggot. I don't give a shit about EA published games, and Ubishit will keep making their shitty Assassin Creed games.

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>forgets Red Dead Redemption 2, that has probably sold 30m copies already

>he put it in his shitter bio so it must be true

use your fucking brain for once user

>Your stupid entitlement will end
Kek, the consumer has the last say, I'm entitled not to make a purchase. Unless Sweeney's friends in the People's Republic of China can pay the American government to make a law that demands we buy EA games, the consumer is entitled to the final say on where their money goes.

If you can finish a game in 2 hours in a normal playthrough the devs don't deserve any money

Lol the only reason they're even making a single player game is because its already been proven via GoW4, Horizon, Botw, Nier, Witcher 3, on and on and on. Not going to buy your shitty games EA, especially not a nu-star wars shitty game. Fuck off.

>RE2
>DMC5
>Sekiro
>Hollow Knight

star ocean 5
the legend of heroes

games that focuse on the story and the adventure rather than having storyparts in between hours of gameplay.

UNDERTALE

he was also a part of the other star wars game before it got cancelled

>trannie
Fuck off idiot

TLJ was garbage and had many issues but at least argue properly. The kamikaze attack itself wasn't really the worst shit about the space chase plot

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The Legend of Heroes is so fucking kino.
>JRPG
>church AREN'T the bad guys
>church also has a big dick magical taskforce that hunts down dangerous criminals

idk trails in the sky was really average

The most pathetic thing about this embarrassing excuse for marketing is that it's going to work.

LOOK GUYS WE AREN'T FUCKING OVER THIS GAME AND ARE MAKING IT LIKE IT SHOULD BE, SO YOU GOTTA BUY IT!

But I want story driven games to die desu.

I literally have not purchased a single Star Wars game since the original Dark Forces and that certainly isn't changing with this

>offended by tranny
>acts like a faggot tranny

It's Unreal Engine 4.

>>JRPG
>>church AREN'T the bad guys
Yeah, because having a corrupt organization totally means that RELIGION=BAD even though you have monks and priests/priestesses in your party which actually do good.
Wonder where they got the idea of a corrupt, religious organization

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EA listened to the gaming community.... Epic! I’ve just preordered the digital collectors edition!

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I remember reading about that one Star Wars game that was basically supposed to be an OCean's Eleven-esque heist game that wasn't supposed to involve Jedi at all.

Im still mad that never happened.

yes it was, since it completely dismantles all logic about space battles in Star Wars

it has really gotten better since the new GoG version added turbomode

That is a really cool rant for a game that hasn't shown any gameplay yet. Fuck that guy, if the game looks like shit I'm not getting just because "muh single player support" fuck that noise. They have a LOT to prove before I'm sold.

Also, I like multiplayer, without the ability to play with people, I'm probably waiting until a sale to get it as is already unless it looks phenomenal, and even then, I probably won't be in any big rush.

The immensely sad thing is that this is working. There's about 50 people in a discord I visit all agreeing that this is great and that they can't wait to get it. They keep repeating, "No microtransactions, EA has finally learned their lesson!" and "Single-player story driven goodness, I am so hyped for this omgggg". Even have fags saying "We've got to support this to show what kind of games we want in the future, everybody".

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Who the fuck still gives EA money?

Redditors and normies

retards who still fall for marketing, so a lot of people

Why do Sony and western third parties always set the worst trends when it comes to games?

Sekiro is story driven, though.

>Let's support and create a new problem to get rid of an old problem.
Sounds right

Tht explains why Yea Forums bought shit like Battlefield 3 and 4

>buy my game to prove this category of games has value
Fuck you, I don't give a shit about Star Wars games. That shit's going to sell in any case.

you should check on your understandings of things.
sekiro is clearly action/gameplay driven.

But... but muh FIFA...

This, it's annoying when Halofags on Yea Forums mention it, such a boring movie series.

But I hate Star Wars. I want all those things but not attached to Star Wars.

This is like a band that you never heard before trying to sell you some CDs without playing any music first.

SHOW US SOME GAMEPLAY YOU HACKS

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Nah, it is driven by the narrative. To the point where areas are gated by the story progression.

Dont buy it, pirate it on day one lads.

didnt persona5 sell like about 3 million copies?
is atlus even considered third partie`?

God who the fuck cars about Mouse Wars anymore?

any game that is not the game I'm getting paid to shill doesn't count

>how do you do, fellow gamers? Lets show how much we think EA is wrong by giving them your money

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Zoomers

They shit the bed with Apex big time.

and people wonder why multiplayer skinner box shit is so prevalent in the industry today.

thats not what storydriven means, storydriven means that the main selling point of the game is the story like undertale.
each game follows a certain narrative, by that you could even say that battletoads would be storydriven since areas are locked by progress

spics and nogs buy them every year and nothing else

>he says GoW and Spider-Man don't count because they're first party
This is such a fucking arbitrary point to bring into the argument. What difference does it make who's publishing the game, as long as it's good.

>He actually thinks being a single player game is what’s going to drive sales

You forgot the part about actually being a good game

So what you're saying is, story-driven is another word for shit?

The gameplay was the main selling point of Undertale.

No, I'm telling you to fuck off because your shit doesn't make much sense

>logic
>Star Wars

Anyways, I'd say it was way worse how the space plot made every other subplot require to resolve within 3 days.
And worst part about the plan was how the general was a complete retard and provoked a mutiny only to go "hurr we two topdogs knew better but kept it secret for reasons"
Stupid idiot put her own plan at risk by behaving like a stupid cunt just so she can say she acted like a dumb cunt for good reasons.
The whole chase thing was stupid. I mean the whole saga is stupid, I don't even know what people are looking forward to with the "conclusion"
Yeah, the new order will get destroyed in some magical way just like it reappeared after the OT magically and got back bullying the rebels who for some reason are still rebels even though they destroyed the empire in VI? I only watched VII and VIII and shit doesn't make any sense.
Even with the prequels you had a somewhat interesting plot that went on throughout the trilogy.
I have no idea what's going on in the new trilogy

I feel like that was already proven a hundred times over in the past year or so?

What's wrong with Frostbite? I think it looks pretty good.

>more journalists thinking customers should be beholden to businesses and not the other way around

God I wish someone would an hero a fucking place in California soon. Preferably Polygon headquarters

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you didnt play the same undertale as me then, baiting or really really have a warped reasoning.
if you prefer gameplay/action over storys then propably, yes.

>wasn't supposed to involve Jedi at all.
Now that you say this it's all clear to me now why Disney canned it.

FACT: there is no evidence that piracy harms sales and the only real attempt to prove as much failed so miserably it showed evidence that piracy actually HELPS sales and the EU had to bury it.

It's so tiresome

>Buy this car from us! It has seat heating, parking camera and we definitely won't slash the tires after you buy it or fill the glove compartment with live scorpions.
Kek what is this kind of marketing even called?

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>EA
Only a retard would believe them by this point.
>b-but you have to prove single player games sell
Nintendo, Sony, Capcom, Bandai Namco and others are already doing well enough in this regard, nobody needs EA.

Nah, the bait is too basic.

Their profit is still profit.

How EA operates has already been explained in the past. They don't care if studios make single player games like this, they just want them to have at least one game that prints money.

Don't you have to go dilate?

Extortion.

Do people still care about Star Wars? No, honestly. Seriously. Ever since TLJ and Solo I have seen a very significant drop in the advertisement of Star Wars, products related to Star Wars, and general talk of Star Wars. I don't even see random people on the street with shirts anymore.

In today's hyper-fast world I don't think new Star Wars will capture the hearts and minds of people like the Original Trilogy did in the 70s/80s. People just seem to move on too quickly now.

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>EA
>Modern Star Wars
only a cuck lord will be "hyped" for this

If publishers get those sell guess there's no reason to prove the publishers wrong then

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Why do you have to prove anything to some multi billion dollar monolith. The framing contextualises them as some barely surviving company yet Disney is like 30% of the entire entertainment industry at this point, HOW WILL THEY SURVIVE!?

guys... I fucking hate EA and star wars but I want Japanese companies to keep making single player RPGs
its fucked up that i'm going to need to buy this game for that to continue...

Blackmail maybe?

No, because I'm not a tranny, I don't plan to chop my dick off and more importantly I want idiots like you to leave

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Frostbite on Dragon Age Inquisition looks great

Be the change you want to see in the world, user.

How do you presume to determine what the "main selling point" is, retardo
If I say I bought Sekiro because of the story, is it not a main selling point?
Did From at any point claim Sekiro's main selling point wasn't the story?

>Author, The GameDev Business Handbook. MBA. 8+ yrs game ind XP. As seen on Variety, Polygon, GameDaily, GI, Mashable.
Oh god, his credentials are genuine and his guilds are so gamer friendly. Ready to pre-order!

>Want DQ12
>Have to buy EA™'s Star Wars™ Fallen Order™ now

how did it come to this bros... we all gotta buy it now...

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>Give us more money after the last jedi and BFII disaster

No thanks

t. ranny

>tr*nny
Um, can you not?

and it breaks all the fucking time

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>prove publishers wrong by preordering
lol

I feel that the Japanese have a lot of untapped potential that is held back by fear of failure in their gaming products. This attitude has spread to the west as publishers consolidate power to lord over developers. This is not unlike how Atari was like at the very beginning of gaming. Until Activision was formed, developers were basically treated about the same as a customer service rep in spite of doing the most important work.

It's coming full circle and happening all over again. The publishers are creating the same crash that occurred decades ago and the devs are caught in the middle.

bro.. how could Mike Futter from twitter.com do this to us
its not fair...

>wasn't really the worst shit about the space chase plot
You're literally telling everyone it gets even WORSE than that, you realize that right?

are you really falling for that arbitrary point? lol

Off the top of my head
>Hollow Knight
>Nier Automata
>Persona 5
>BotW
>Super Mario Odyssey
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>Cuphead
>Sekiro
>DMC5
>REmake 2
>God of War
>RDR2

Shit like ME Andromeda sold poorly because it fucking sucked, not because single player games are unsustainable, which doesn't even make any fucking sense when you look at what people can do with a fraction of a standard AAA budget.

soemtimes before you post you should think yourself, "am i retarded?".
because anyone with more then 10 iq can clearly see that sekiro is gameplay/action oriented while undertale, persona etc. are story driven.
it doesnt matter for what reason you buy.
just stop being a retard and try to think 10 seconds before posting.
i give an easier example since your brain doesnt seem to be able to comprehend logic.
if you go into a movie that is drama, its drama oriented because its a drama movie
if you go into an action movie its action oriented because its action.
yes, you can watch twilight because you think the action is cool, yet it wont change the fact that its a drama movie.
your opinion on it doesnt change anything.

>outright BEGGING for purchases

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Because most people don't like that shit.
The only reason why people even care about the new saga is because they want to know what happened to the characters from the OT.
Solo was a clusterfuck that got reshot a few times and was a mess overall production wise but it turned out to be decent.
TLJ killed the Star Wars hype and people only give a fuck about IX because they think it's going to unfuck SW.
The toys don't sell well, the games probably don't make much profit (or at least they don't make enough profit that they should be able to).
Seriously, EA could've released many games but I think for some reason they think that they can only do FPS games and don't want to oversaturate their own shit

Imagine trusting a company run by a Vampire who invented loot boxes, and continues to make gambling available to children.

Oh yeah, I totally believe they've changed this time!

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you're right...
the only way we can fix this now is by buying Star Wars™ Fallen Order™...

Successes in any industry is profit.
Sales - (Dev cost + Marketing + other budget costs) = Profit.

Anthem was overhyped, overdeveloped with every cook in the kitchen and the game changed 100 times in both plot and direction to the point that the advertised function, the jetpack, was gimped as fuck on final release compared to the initial demo, simply because they wanted to make it focus group safe and overdid it at every step for it's entire development cycle. Go look up some interviews, it's no secret.

If a game with a small budget and cost makes above it's cost, it's a success. It's not a popularity contest, because appealing to EVERYONE with high budget titles like Anthem tried to do fails
every
fucking
time.

EA is running out of chances. The old adage of "too big to fail" is finally not a defence for them. They've made so many mistakes and consistantly so that even if this next title is good, which is highly unlikely, a lot of people will not buy it and pass it over for other releases simply because they've betrayed the consumer time and again, which instills a belief that nothing from them can be good.

20mil is nothing if your game costs 30mil in sales. Mass appeal also has no impact on a game's actual quality, because everyone has different tastes, and a product that tries to do everything will do everything BADLY.

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Frostbite is only good at the hands that know how to use it which has been only the Battlefield devs. Everyone else that has been forced to use it just sucks and doesn't know how to get the best out of it like them.

>story driven
Nah that shit can die

Marketing buzzword to sell objectively crappy "games" padded with hours of boring cutscenes.

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I'm going to pirate this. Not because it's an EA game, but because I pirate all my games.

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Can't wait for ME Andromeda 2!

Live in ignorance and purchase your happiness.

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His sentiment isn't really wrong. Multiplayer games don't require as much investment, most release pretty bare bones then add more content over time, and with microtransactions they can easily make far more money than traditional games. The only trouble with them is first gaining players, hence why most start f2p, and how oversaturated the market making you compete day to day with the most popular games.
Publishers lost faith in traditional single player games, the linear 12-15 hour games, around 7th gen. However with game rental becoming less popular and digital sales becoming more popular the return of the games seems to be happening.

Yeah, because it does or rather it's actually worse.
I mean kamikaze attack in order to weaken or act as a diversion so the rest can escape doesn't sound that bad but it just gets worse.

gz user, theres 3 actual story driven games on your list and 2 of those are not even third partie.

The game has to actually be good though.

Guys it looks cool though

is it still written/directed by Any Hennig?
Then fuck off.
Titanfall's 2 singleplayer was fucking shit, it just wasn't as shit as Call of Duty has become

yeah, all that gameplay we saw sure looks cool

BUY THIS GAME TO SAVE THE INDUSTRY

>is it still written/directed by Any Hennig?
it never was, that was a different game under a different studio

EA needs to sell a lot because they spend more on marketing than game development. Japanese devs barely spend anything on marketing so basically you're retarded

>it's clearly so because I strongly feel it inside
No nigger, your arbitrary feelings on it don't make a difference

I hate single-player story-driven games.
Not because of the genre but because the industry is a burning dumpster of no talent social justice warriors that couldn't make a decent game if their life depended on it. The story is always preachy bullshit for women or faggots and the gameplay is always either an insult to video games or non-existent entirely.

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Which new game has the better gameplay.
This or Vampire the Masquerade 2?

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I just like jedis dude.

>support EA and The Mouse, or no more SP AAA games for you
It's blackmail, then.

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does this guy literally insist on story driven third parties games being dead literally when persona 5 got on his high peak?

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Imagine being such a fag you have to stop and consider “the state of the gaming industry” before buying a game. if fallen order looks good I’ll buy it I’m in no obligation to give a shit if the company who publishes it is bad or not

>comparing SP games to Fortnite of all fucking games

You are so fucking stupid it is a miracle that you can even form a coherent sentence.

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back to resetera

>The old adage of "too big to fail" is finally not a defence for them. They've made so many mistakes and consistantly so that even if this next title is good, which is highly unlikely, a lot of people will not buy it and pass it over for other releases simply because they've betrayed the consumer time and again, which instills a belief that nothing from them can be good.
They've been betraying consumers for over a decade now and will continue to do that for many years.
EA will keep buying and raping new developers, consumers will keep receiving shittier and shittier products and then cry that EA is evil only to later buy another piece of shit to "give EA one last chance". Brainlets will never learn.

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Yeah but only like 30 people have beat it

That only strengthens their argument, guy. That sounds fucking awful and your argument is that it gets even worse. You aren't helping it.

persona 5 is a 5/10 game

They're coming up against two heavy-hitters with a lot of support behind them. CyberPunk 2077 and Vampire the Masquerade 2. This shiftless behavior where they tell you that you're bad if you don't like it is not going to help them. None of them if they choose to market it like moronic assholes.

Star Wars doesn't carry the same weight it once did. Most of the fans have moved on and there's so much more out there to get interested in now.

Resetera doesn't like this, MC is a white male.

your personal feelings on it doesnt matter, what matters is that its a third partie story-driven singleplayer game that sold in millions.
cant be called dead

The average intelligence of the masses is rising though. One day this shit simply will not fly.

RDR2, is one of the fastest selling games of all time, second 2 GTA V, both of which released with only a singleplayer component. RDR2's online doesn't even really count any way since it's fairly limited and nowhere near the main draw.

>Dear gamers

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Which is why it's important to meme their demise, I myself have used 4 accounts on twitter, 2 on youtube and 2 on facebook to imply it will be shit and otherwise spread negativity that will cast doubt into the minds of possible consumers
All gotta do our part

The fifth entry in a Decalogy?

EA shouldn't be allowed to publish single player games anyway. They ruin every one of them they put out.

I think "story driven" shit happens literally because they hire actors in fucking advance on contract, so they have to make use of them in order to justify the cost, and all the coders who actually want to do cool shit get shafted because coders are basically treated like slaves in the tech industry.

Overpaid hollywood actors, unionized VAs, etc. Corparations are practically forced to rub shoulders with entertainment crappy swamphole cancer people when they get big, since the marketing teams, outsourced to other companies, usually suggest "star power" as a way to draw in sheep aka people.

On top of that working in a corparation is a nightmare, because the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing, but also that management and employees usually don't have the same policy rulebook, and some of that shit is hidden from lower folks. So lying about shit and breaking company policy is bog-standard practice, backstabbery is easy in these environments.

Which is why the small indie companies and devs are usually corruption free unless they're attached to a forum they set up. However they're always treated like shit by publishers, no out, which has led people to switch to online platforms that don't give a goddamned shit.

So the old publishers NOW have to do a lot of shit in-house, because they can't hold onto devs without attaching themselves. And most new devs have seen this shit before happen to older devs, so no one's taking the bait.

So the funny thing? The reason why all the games EA and related shit publisher companies make are shit? They entrap desperate, entry level people who want to enter the industry, they're scraping the literal bottom of the barrel.

They're literally the Wal-mart of game industry companies. They're dying like Wal-mart is currently dying too. It's kinda uncanny.

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>EA shouldn't be allowed to publish games anyway. They ruin every one of them they put out.
FTFY

>EA is in trouble and people don't buy their games in the millions at an insane profit

You seem to be out of touch with reality, fren.

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your efforts will be wasted if reddit gives it upvotes, and popularitys image will be a popular one, and you will just be labeled as troll.
have fun fighting against the masses, and the shills.
i might join, but its gotta be wasted effort anyway

>RDR2
>KH3
>Persona 5
>Nier Automata
>insisting that 3rd party story-driven games when all of these have sold millions of copies and shown that there's room for these games to thrive and succeed

Fucking blue check marks. Why are they so dishonest?

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True but apparently there are multiplayerfags who like their games

mediocre if you prefer

>tfw no comfy talaxian yes-man to talk about underage girls with ;_;

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I'll buy Obscure on Steam instead.
I didn't even know there was a PC port.

EA games usually are great core games that list get fucked by all the weird shit that piles up around a great core concept. Anthem is a great example of that. Actually really fun concept with dope core gameplay, but literally fuck all to do and absolutely no gameplay varience, so it's boring on top of being a buggy ass mess, after playing the demo I wanted it to be good because it could have been really good.

> Imagine caring about western AAA gaming

Your time is up, son.

Japan upped their game and you are no longer needed. Now return back to your live services crap and go away.

oh, then who cares?
it'll be lucky to be anywhere near Jedi Outcast, and even then that series was only ever fun because of the multiplayer, just like Battlefront, which ironically Yea Forums has totally forgotten about while they're shitting on MP games while pissing themselves waiting for the new singleplayer game from the company that helped ruin multiplayer games.
Ignorance is a hell of a drug. Fuck Respawn and fuck West & Zampella. Yes, they should have gotten their money from Bobby, but they shouldn't be proud of the garbage they sold to make that money.

>nier automate
>story driven
not sure if i gonna agree with that, didnt play it.
but aint it more action-driven?

Fuck Western developers. And I'm not even a weeb. These kikes can go bankrupt.

Not him but Nier Automata is pretty evenly mixed. The story is a big part of it, especially for Yea Forums given how much Yea Forums likes Yoko Taro

>Shitty story
>The same tone for the third time in a row with a cast as archetypical now as fire emblem
>Turn-Based JRPG where you slap ass until the one move that does 999,999 DMG is revealed
>Movement on the overworld is somehow feels worse than tank controls
5/10 is generous, it's barely a fucking video game.

>all made by japan
>only Japan is able to release kino single player games

Why is the West so pathetic?

The gameplay in Nier automata is garbage even with platinum working on it. It's way too repetitive.

The main reason to play Nier and Nier automata is for the story.

>BUY OUR GAME, ENTITLED SHITLORD ASSHOLE "GAMERS"
>no gameplay, only prerendered trailers

What the fuck, is this supposed to make me want to spend money somehow?

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I thought you were joking.

resetera.com/threads/yet-another-generic-white-dude-a-legitimate-discussion-on-criticism-regarding-character-design-diversity.111378/

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Western game development is driven far more by the publisher's needs and profit models rather than gameplay ideas.

Gacha trash is free to play by default and makes such absurd amounts of money from gullible retards that even if everyone who pirated single player games bought every game they pirated it still wouldn't compare to gacha.

I can prove you dumb in three sentences.
>it costs 30 million to make a game
>it only made 20 million
>since it had a net loss of 10 million it was obviously a success
This is you you fucking idiot.

If something makes below what it costs, it's not a success. EA has locked themselves into high cost games that aren't selling as much. These used to be normalfag watercooler games, now hardly anyone is getting them compared to how they sold before. It's literally gone down by half in sales, with ten extra bucks on the pricing.

Soon enough you're going to be finding copies of EA's games in the fucking Arizona desert, like E.T.

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>What is Game Freak
>What is Koei-Tecmo
>What is Konami
>What is Namco-Bandai
>What is Square-Enix
And so on and so forth.
The East is just as fucked, if not worse. I mean yeah EA is a shitty company but at least FIFA is a fucking video game with more potential strategy than anything Square-Enix has developed in 20 odd years.
Capcom just recently unfucked themselves somewhat and Fromsoft exists. Fuck the rest of the lot, West, East and that group of slavs whipping each other to make the most expensive moviegames ever.

Fuck off retard.

Also one of major sources of "le cinematic experience" cancer is failed filmmakers and screenwriters who plague video game industry. Stupid delusional niggers did not expect that they have to direct a thousand of commercials before being invited to Hollywood to direct new fancy capeshit. David Cage is prime example of such retard.

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This. There's very, very precious few western games that are still made through passion, desire for innovation and curiosity rather than sheer profit.
The western developers don't usually play games in their down time unless it's from the company they work for, either.

GAMERS RISE UP GIVE ALL YOUR MONEY TO ELECTRONIC ARTS THIS IS OUR TIME TO SHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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apex is fucking horribly optimized and their servers are complete ass. they’re shit

>huge budget star wars game is indicative of whether all single player games are sustainable
Sod off

TLOU 2 is going to sell millions despite being 95% movie 5% gameplay.

>Blue Checkmark of I have retarded shit to say

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I do too, but that doesn't mean I have to pretend SWTOR was a good game.

It's the most optimised of the BR games

God, imagine ruining a perfectly good pair of underwear. What a waste.

Looks like the retard is SALTY

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What the fuck

Sounds like desperation, but my answer is no.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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eh it's already number 2 on jewtube so normies will definitely buy it

the future are games where all factions are playable by anyone in a single player game

think of how sick the next elderscrolls would be if you could just go in and control a random enemy and fight the guy trying to get through his game or if you're playing cod single player and the enemies are real players

it's all possible even now if any retard developers want their single player games to have any market share

make a good game and the rest will follow
doesn't matter what that game is

I don't get why developers worrying about the bottom line put such ridiculous amounts of money into games. If DMC, Sekiro and RE2 can be profitable off 3 million sales, why doesn't EA just throw 5-10 million at each of their subsidiaries and tell them to use it on a decent game?

A quick google of a few games only pulled up the Mass Effect Andromeda budget, but that was 100 million dollars. R*ddit claims ME3 cost 40 mil and ME1 might have cost 3 mil. Is ME3 13 times better than ME1? Where does that money go?

They should tidy their budgets and downsize their projects, while also turning more projects out.

literally how can ea still get away with this bullshit?
its like normalfags have their own fucking brain reset button.

these western AAA studios have huge marketing and staff bloat that most Japanese studios just don't have.

Most good games are too "embarrassing" or unusual for them to bother with, they need something extremely normal, safe, and accessible to talk about in public with their other normie friends.

In Japan, a developer's efforts are fully owned by the company. To the point that you have to hide anything you're working on from them if you wish to strike out on your own. If they find out about it, they will assume ownership of the IP, assuming it was work you were doing for the company regardless of the reality of the situation.

I know this for a fact. In Japan, most work for companies is considered a lifelong endeavor. Which is why they're stand-offish when letting foreign companies get involved in one of their IPs. They see the way are business work as being semi-transient, which is not far from the truth.

The truth is that it's impossible for corporations to make good games, so that's not workable for them. Thus all the gachashit, lootboxes and monetization bullshit.

Left hand/right hand confusion, teams are far too big to manage and so shaping ideas and storyboarding are a nightmare and all the creative talent is repelled by the corparate environment and eventually fucks off to be happy somewhere else, so all that's left is old useless and soulless bags and new blood (interns and new hires), neither are suitable for the high demand for quality.

Companies do not die gracefully. They go in a wildfire and a bunch of lawsuits.

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Give one reason a company should make a good game when they can just hire artists to make softcore porn .jpgs and sell them to compulsive gamblers to make 3 billion dollars.

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I love the fact that ever since Matt turned him loose Pat just goes around shitting all over industry figures.

have you seen the mobile games market? most of them are massive failures on the edge of bankruptcy. If it was that easy everyone company would be doing it. It's by far the most competitive market on the planet.

This fucking "They just don't make single player games any more!" meme man. When Japan, the Slavs, and indie developers put out incredible single player games on a monthly basis.
I haven't bought a game from Activision, Ubisoft, or EA in years, not out of some gay protest but because they put out garbage nobody should buy. Hearing from people who go out of their way to not buy single player games that there are no single player games is completely infuriating.
Of course put star wars on the box and they start lining the fuck up. Persona, Witcher, Metro, Devil May Cry, Sekiro. That's all gay nerd shit. GOTTA HAVE MY STAR WARS THOUGH!

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remember to sage and report all shill threads.

Sekiro is published by Activision

Even the western developers I used to like such as Bethesda and Bioware seem to be going to shit in recent years.

>BUY THE GAME OR ELSE, FUCKING INCELS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fucking pathetic.

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>most Japanese studios just don't have.
any big AAA Jap game is going to throw a similar amount of money as a western studio

>recent
Both those companies have been shit for ages. Yea Forums has been shitting on them for over a decade now

Like every other EA game, yes.

We only have a shitty cgi trailer and they already guilt tripping me. What the fuck.

>RDR2 doesn't count "Because it has multiplayer and mtx"
Even if we throw out the first two for whatever mind numbing fucking reason; we're still left with this dumb shit.

What's his point? Is he honestly suggesting that RDO and mircotransactions are responsible for any significant number of sales? That in absence of them RDR2 wouldn't have made anywhere near the amount of money it did or been successful as a single player game?

Based gout midget

Who the fuck even plays RDR2 Multiplayer?

I mean who knows what agenda the church has, could be some questionable folks as well.

Also while 3rd is fucking GOAT, and the other games have great stuff going on, people jerk off Ao no Kiseki way too much, what a shit JRPG

Why is this game getting shilled so hard by people?

buy it to prevent the next video game crash

desperation after TLJ tainted the brand

There is no hope for EA.

More like buy it to prove ET was right in crashing the vidya industry

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But the video game crash would ultimately be a good thing

this. I can survive on a backlog for years at this point

jesus christ this clear bait has already tricked the EA masses hasn't it? how can they be so fucking dumb all the time?

Disney spent a fuckload of money buying THE intellectual property that's almost defined two generations going on three. It HAS to succeed.

I'll get it, when it's on sale.

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YEAH HIT EM WITH THE CHAIR PAT