Fuck Ceasar and fuck the legion

Fuck you profligate

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I had so much fun killing every legion bastard in that camp, FUCK CAESAR!

I prefer this nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66081

I WANT TO MARRY VULPES

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Do not

>oh shit time to re insta-
>all those mods required to make the game playable
maybe next year

Ahem...
FUCK THE NCR
FUCK LEGIONARIES
FUCK CAESER
FUCK THE HOUSE
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST FUCK THE ENCLAVE

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I WILL

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that mods so shitty
>legion armor with 6 desert eagles strapped to it
overdesigned lorebreaking trash

How far East does the Legion go?

Denver

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Caesar says all of Arizona, New Mexico and "Much of" Utah and Colorado. We know he's exaggerating about Utah because his claim exists via the White Legs, but they do seem to have a legit stake in Colorado with Denver as seemingly their furthest border since it nearly broke them logistically.

However, there's evidence to suggest from the "Red Okies" that the Legion goes as far east as the Oklahoma panhandle bordering New Mexico. But that's fairly loose.

Utah, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico.

user, you could put a full setup of mods in less than two hours depending on your connection

I've never fully understood if the Legion is nomadic or if it actually fully occupies these territories. Do they blow through, subjugate the population then leave it more or less autonomous with the lingering threat the legion might pass through again? Or do they have some cities they've permanently occupied?

Are you saying that this is not lore friendly?

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It's a nomadic army, like the Mongol horde. The line about Lanius and the veterans being busy "in the east" implies they have a token peacekeeping force along the borders but the majority of the Legion is up and down the Colorado waiting to invade the Mojave.

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They're a largely nomadic army. They harvest resources from their territory in the form of tribal assimilation and slaves, but they don't actively rule their territories. As long as you don't actively cross the Legion, you're left alone.

My guess is that the Legion territories exist to feed th greater war machine. They provide tithe, wealth, resources and people which are delivered via heavily defended supply lines/caravan routes which all funnel towards wherever the bulk of the Legion exists.

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Has to be nomadic, if they had the force projection to occupy every settlement in all that territory they'd steamroll the dam with sheer numbers. Which is funny because since they're not everywhere that leaves the fringe settlements at the biggest risk. So do they have no raider troubles or do they just kill all the raiders after they find out a settlement was destroyed and claim it as a victory regardless?

When you put it like that

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implying im not autistic

Arizona is meant to be so safe merchant caravans can travel without guards. Anyone who opposed the Legion inside their territory is either dead or has the good sense to stay out of sight.

This.

I just don't understand how the Legion actually keeps the roads safe for travel. If 90% of them are on the bank of the Colorado, who is even the Arizona town chopping people's heads off for stepping out of line? Why did they even go to Denver, what did they want to get out of it? Slaves?

Considering Arizona is a lot of nothing its easy to control empty desert. Probably a bunch of whipped slaves too scared to revolt against a few dudes with whips. No one raids it because there's nothing there. Convoys are guarded too much to be worth it so everyone avoids it.

>90% of them are on the bank of the Colorado
I don't think they are. The bulk of their military forces may be, but they keep enough reserves in the conquered land to keep them pacified. The main military force where Caesar is found appears to be the main nomadic element of the Legion- other parts are more or less static.
Unless I'm retarded and missed something

After the loss at Hoover Dam the first time around, the Legion spent five years recovering its strength by conquering new tribes and amassing fresh slaves. That means pushing the border. Denver was a mistake because it's overrun by feral dogs and there's next to no one living out there, the only upshot to it all was conquering the Hangdogs and adding mongrels to their ranks.

The supplies tithed from the Legions territories are essential to the war machine at the Dam so I assume they have minimum troops dedicated to protecting the supply lines, who in turn must swipe through settlements pretty regularly to keep people in line and remind them of their presence. I imagine reputation does a fucking lot for them too.

Wow thanks for the (you)s frens

Don't mention

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>one of the biggest points of the legion is that nobody knows that they're just ripping off the Romans or that the Romans even existed
>Mod makers completely ignore that

Based and legionpilled

>ywn be enslaved
>ywn have a harem of legionaries

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Why, Japan

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The Japanese will lewd anything. It's law.

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I thit nips didnt like FPS

Fuck pussy leftists that can't reconcile reality with their emotions.

Holy shit, nigger, I have all my mods stored away. The fuck is wrong with you?

>When you want to put all that map under Enclave control but you can't
Fucking muties.

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You'd be surprised.
There's whole proper comics about fallout.
One other western game with a lot of art from the gooks I have a folder of too is TF2

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Enclave can be your personal army

I'll do it for you brother

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Why would you want them

I still think Edward Swallow's origin makes little sense. Young foreign captives who don't speak any of the local dialects and actively voice their contempt for their host's culture don't become undisputed despots with absolute loyalty by murdering thousands of people and instituting brutal cultural reforms that shit on whatever little tradition the tribals have. Those kind of people get shanked by disgruntled savages. There is no reason for the character to not simply be the warlord who unites the tribes via a common enemy and who then attacks the resource rich and easily raided settled peoples

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Post couriers

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He spoke through Graham. He told them how to be better than their enemies. He gave them dominion over everything they saw. They appreciated that.

did you not pay any attention at all at his story?
Graham translated for him and he played nice while he was in captivity.
He saw the ooga boogas fighting other ooga boogas endlessly and taught them how to win. Starting from a little yokel tribe, since they added each new one in, he built the legion.

Bunch of old men can kill literally hundreds of legion soldiers while retreating. Why not?

Then Graham would have obviously been the focal point for a lot of the Blackfoots loyalty, since it would have had to be by whatever charisma Graham has that he would convince people to do what Edward says. Caesar executing him at the damn should have invoked a full blown civil war.

Also in the Legion tribals don't have shit. They're slaves to Caesar. They don't get access to any pleasures or recreation except overly used slave vagina and the occasional boy hole. They're just brutally indoctrinated and trained 24/7. Total War fucking sucks and that's all the Legion has had since it's inception. Caesar's Legion as a concept completely flaunt any human aspect of pride or desire.

The first tribe he "assisted" was the blackfoot I believe

No, we've done this before. And the simple fact is they could see all the ideas were coming from Sallow and not Graham. Even a tribal can see who has the knowledge, who has the grand ideas, who gives them the power, who is the leader and who is the subservient mouthpiece.

But that's itself doesn't make any sense. Total War is a resource intensive process and they started with the weakest tribe. They then killed the second weakest tribe through full out assault. Then the third weakest tribe or literally any of the more powerful ones, instead of capitalizing on their enemies vast over reaching or exhausted state and raiding them, decided to surrender because they were scared of the guy who killed the second weakest tribe?

Time wise just teaching these tribes to effectively make use of squad tactics and Roman dialects while keeping everyone in line would have taken Caesar's entire life to do, never mind conquering all of Arizona and Nevada on top.

t. Armchair psychologist.
Those tribals lived in contant war with their neighbours while being nearly starved, not knowing if they'll find some mutated shit to hunt.
Caesar has them steady food and water, protection, taught them to read, write and speak properly.
Besides, aesar outright says that this isnt what he wants. The legion is just the tool for him to build the civilization he wants once he takes over the NCR.
So the whole rape and pillage thing will die out tooonce there's no more reason for it.

>the Shi holding out that small piece of land compared to the rest of the NCR
it would be cool if they had a game that dove into the politics of that situation that isnt made by Bethesda

Nothing more fun than tearing up NCR from a distance and raking up dogtags for the Legion.

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>didn't even pay attention to the game
A complete massacre was well outside what the tribes were used to. They were petty thugs who raided and kidnapped and raped. Caesar shows them a pile of dead bodies where a hundred or more people used to live, what the fuck are they meant to think? "Hurr let's capitalize on them overreaching their bounds"? Fuck off.

But Graham was a leader, he was Edward's main legate, despite the fact he's said to be a ho hum military leader at best. Needing a translator is a fault, and in the middle of fight is a massive disadvantage. Also Edward was young and him having all this military training and being able to effectively execute it is a plot hole in and of itself.

None of that even matter because Graham suffer the same faults, he's a foreigner with no cultural or historical basis for the other tribes to trust or respect him, and Caesars reforms would have been massively unpopular and led to unrest among the tribes.

Considering the only potential reference to the Shi in NV is Colonel Hsu having an Asian last name, either Obsidian overlooked them completely or they're trying to imply San Francisco got annexed and culturally enriched by NCR

FUCK DEAN DOMINO AND FUCK FATHER ELIJAH

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Or, you know, do what tribes have done for millennia when a big scary enemy you can't beat shows up and fucking leave. That's the point of being a tribe, you're nomadic. When dangerous shows up you can leave.

You honestly believe dozens of tribes would all stand their ground and fight or just roll when your BEST CASE scenario with the Legion being robbed of any culture or tradition, forcing every single woman into prostitution, and then turn every single male into a killing machine to go die in a meatgrinder?

I'm a massive Romaboo but I hate the Legion, the barbaric savages. The NCR and it's aping of old world American republicanism in fact better continues the legacy of Rome. Did you know that when America was being formed, and it's government and institutions being designed, Latin was considered as an official Language, and Senators were proposed to wear Togas? Phenomenally based, I wish I were in that timeline.
Edward Sallow is nothing but a glib facsimile of GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR.

>Obsidian overlooked them completely
im asuming this happened considering the Shi has nothing to add to the story of NV, but them being completely usurped by the NCR is also unlikely, the Shi has a great area to defend and they have better tech than the NCR

Nuka World Raiders > Caesar's Legion. Prove me wrong.

>Caesar has them steady food and water, protection, taught them to read, write and speak properly.
Exactly, all this shit would take DECADES of dedicated work to accomplish at this scale across dozens of languages and cultures. Caesar doing by swinging around big sticks and killing half of everyone all while roving around the wasteland to find more tribals to kill and incorporate doesn't make any sense.

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Remember that they only had like 2 years to make the entire game. They probably just hit randomize on all the side characters and called it good.

30 odd years are a pretty solid timeframe.
He started doing this when he was a student of the followers, who run a kind of university in LA and he's in his 50's when you meet him.

Okay guys I never played NV, at all.

Do I go in vanilla? any mods to start with. I was considering no mods or maybe just the sawyer one or whatever. I've got the game and DLCs installed and ready to go.

30 years is a solid time frame to have one guy with a decent translator go from dirty water, little to no food, and no English to widespread fluent English, clean running water, and rock solid supply lines all while teaching them micro and macro strategics, while waging continual war and deconstructing and reconstructing, not just culture, but their entire living dynamic? Across dozens of different tribes?

Fucking what?

>playing new vegas

just play fallout 4 ???

The bug fixes and anti crashes are essentials, even if you are going to play vannila. Besides them, you could try Jsawyer and some cut ccontents.
Also imaginator for graphics

uhm
FUCK LEGION

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Yeah.
Also, stop waving around big words you learned on /his/. It makes you look stupid and your posts very easily identifiable.

Literally what in that sentence would come close to counting as a big word?

Where are so many games "moderately good guys" vs "comically evil faction"

hahahaha

Good one, Todd.

>playing old game

just play fallout 76 ???

user, historically, more extreme accomplishments of similar scale have completed in similar or smaller timeframes. Stop talking out of your ass.

Obsidian was going to canonize the Van Buren lore where Enclave remnants tactical nuked San Fran as retaliation for launching helping launch the Valdez but Bethesda stepped in and asked them to remove it because early in development San Fran was on the list of locations for Fallout 4